Everybody seems to be singing the praises of LV. Well I for one am not
happy . They moved in to this area a couple of years back, although
I've only been going there for several months. They keep sending me
their catalogues, you know Tools, Hardware, and Gardening.
You just know that in their latest there will be something that you
"need". Well it seems that I'm always in there with my sparse spare
cash. My other hobbies are suffering and it don't seem right. Now the
SWMBO is taken to browsing the catalogues as well. Its getting so that
I can't sneak off the LV without some company. I don't believe it
right that one company should get so much of my attention. Its a good
thing winter came along so that I can't work out in my garage. So I
have turned some attention to my photo hobby(going to photo my first
hockey game next week). However LV is very sneaky. I see that they
have an IR heater that would no doubt work very well in the garage.
They must have put that in there so that guys like me would continue
to patronize them in the winter. I mentioned this heater to the SWMBO,
so if you don't hear from me you know I'm back out in the garage.
Ken, temporarily not makin dust in NS
> On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 18:19:50 GMT, "mttt" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> Bonus cartographic trivia question:
> In which country is the East Coast west of the West Coast and the West
> Coast east of the East Coast? (This country lies entirely within one
> hemisphere-- that is, there is no "date-line" hanky-panky involved.)
;-) The USA is one. Head west from the left coast & eventually you'll get
to the right coast.
-- Mark
In article <[email protected]>, Mark
Jerde <[email protected]> wrote:
> I hear you. I grew up in western South Dakota where you could always see at
> least 5 miles in some direction. Been in the Washington DC area for 15
> years but I still don't consider myself a Maryland'er. Too many trees &
> people -- no vistas! <g>
>
Yep, There's a lot of us here in MD just because of our jobs. My wife
gets pissed when I refer to "serving my sentence on the East coast" and
tells me to make the best of it. I came from Washington State and would
love to go back but I think we're going to end up in NH as she grew up
in New England and misses it and I think I culd be happy there (with
the right shop!)
Allen
Catonsville, MD
Swingman wrote:
> Took basic training at Fort Bliss, then back there again after OCS
> for a year before going overseas.
When was that? I was OCS 5-85. Ft. Benning's School for Boys... <g>
> Being a flatlander, I loved looking
> at the Franklin Mtns with the sun behind them, sitting on the first
> base line of the old El Paso Sun Kings minor league ball park, with a
> cold beer in hand, enjoying that peaceful stillness peculiar to the
> desert at sunset.
I hear you. I grew up in western South Dakota where you could always see at
least 5 miles in some direction. Been in the Washington DC area for 15
years but I still don't consider myself a Maryland'er. Too many trees &
people -- no vistas! <g>
> What I didn't like was marching 12 miles to the rifle range through
> foot deep desert sand ... my Achilles tendons have never been the
> same.
The Army's big on those LPC's (leather personnel carriers). Whatever your
MOS, everyone is an 11B when push comes to shove.
My son is in his last week of basic in Ft. Sill. I thought he'd join the
Air Force so he wouldn't have to walk everywhere. Guess he want's to show
the old man up. I was in the "special emphasis" PT group in basic. He was
smart enough to go in nearly maxing the PT test. His experience is a LOT
different from mine. <G>
-- Mark
P.S. The best 10 seconds of my life was firing 100 rounds of 20mm ammo
through a Vulcan.
In article <[email protected]>,
Mark Jerde <[email protected]> wrote:
>Silvan wrote:
>> Mark Jerde wrote:
>>
>>> I hear you. I grew up in western South Dakota where you could
>>> always see at
>>> least 5 miles in some direction. Been in the Washington DC area for
>>> 15 years but I still don't consider myself a Maryland'er. Too many
>>> trees & people -- no vistas! <g>
>>
>> That's because you live near DC. Try going to western Maryland. If
>> you can't see for five miles it's because of the vistas getting in
>> your way. :)
>
>Been there several times. Didn't get the tee shirt. ;-)
>
>True, there are places you can *go* in MD where there are good views. IMO
>it's different from western SD, western Nebraska, eastern Wyoming and
>eastern Montana. Most places there have good views. (Eastern SD, MN, IL &
>ID are too flat for my liking.)
You call _ID_ *flat*??? They farm 3 sides of every acre up there. My
uncle has a 'hill' on the far side of the stream in his back yard, that
goes _nearly_ straight up almost 1500 ft. That's a 1500' "rise" in a "run"
of less than 100 ft.
Mebbie you meant _IA_. Although it isn't all that flat, either. Des Moines
Iowa, in the middle of the state, has a 400+ ft difference in elevation
between the highest (1016') and lowest (585') points in town.
>
>I'm a cloud nut. I especially like watching thunderheads building &
>churning. The great plains is the place to be for that hobby.
>
>> (Not that I'm advocating Maryland as a place to live, mind you, but
>> if I had to live in Maryland, Cumberland would be OK.)
>
>Last time I drove through to Morgantown WV I noticed all that beautiful
>hardwood just waiting to be made into lumber. <g>
>
> -- Mark
>
>
>
In article <[email protected]>,
Mark Jerde <[email protected]> wrote:
>Robert Bonomi wrote:
>
>> You call _ID_ *flat*??? They farm 3 sides of every acre up there.
>> My uncle has a 'hill' on the far side of the stream in his back yard,
>> that goes _nearly_ straight up almost 1500 ft. That's a 1500' "rise"
>> in a "run" of less than 100 ft.
>
>The dangers of generalization and ignorance. <g> The part I drove through
>from IL to OH was flat.
How, pray tell, did you go through *IDAHO*, going from IL to OH??
>Parts of western SD don't have great views either. ;-)
Wildly variable, there. There are expanses of very flat territory, and
then there are the Black "hills", which are big/rugged enough to qualify
as mountains in many places.
I've been up to the top of some of those 'hills' -- Forest Ranger fire-
spotting station, in point of fact. A 4-story building on the top of
the highest point in the area. (Note there were metal tower about 50'
away, on three sides of the structure -- some of the heaviest 'lightning
rods' I've ever seen. :) The top story was panoramic glass, from waist
level, to the ceiling. About a 16x16 room, with an 8' square 'table'
(covered with a map of the territory) in the middle of it.
Great for sky watching. Sometimes you were looking _down_ on clouds in
the valleys. <grin>
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 02:29:40 +0000, Michael Baglio wrote:
>
> Bonus cartographic trivia question:
> In which country is the East Coast west of the West Coast and the West
> Coast east of the East Coast? (This country lies entirely within one
> hemisphere-- that is, there is no "date-line" hanky-panky involved.)
Dat'd be Panama, i tink.
-Doug
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> considered moving to the US. Any state where the landscape is mostly flat
> and it doesn't get colder than 40°F would be like heaven to me.
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=US&countryid=250&addtohistory=&address=&city=midland&state=tx&zipcode=&submit=Get+Map
What's that Texas? I said I wanted to get out of the cold, not move to where
I'd melt. We're talking reasonable here son. I hear Texans are big on
barbequing and that's a plus in my books, so I might visit sometime, but I
think the heat would do me in mighty quick.
"mttt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> >
> > considered moving to the US. Any state where the landscape is mostly
flat
> > and it doesn't get colder than 40°F would be like heaven to me.
>
>
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=US&countryid=250&addtohistory=&address=&city=midland&state=tx&zipcode=&submit=Get+Map
>
>
Mark Jerde wrote:
> Last time I drove through to Morgantown WV I noticed all that beautiful
> hardwood just waiting to be made into lumber. <g>
Don't get *too* carried away. I'm still a tree nut at heart.
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
For us up here in Canada, (I'm in Toronto), 23°F would be like a summer's
day. It's not as cold here as in Ottawa, but it's still a might nippy out
there. Don't why I'm here actually, I hate the cold. I've actually
considered moving to the US. Any state where the landscape is mostly flat
and it doesn't get colder than 40°F would be like heaven to me.
"Blue" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Whoa! A high of -6???? And you need to be 8 - 10 ft from the heater??? I
> think it will work just fine for me. I am in Virginia and -6 would keep me
> from even walking across the yard to get to the shop. LOL We are having
what
> we call a "vicious" cold snap right now...it's 23 at midnight.
Upscale writes:
>For us up here in Canada, (I'm in Toronto), 23°F would be like a summer's
>day. It's not as cold here as in Ottawa, but it's still a might nippy out
>there. Don't why I'm here actually, I hate the cold. I've actually
>considered moving to the US. Any state where the landscape is mostly flat
>and it doesn't get colder than 40°F would be like heaven to me.
>
Yow. Sounds boring, but...I like mountains and know your reasons for liking
flatland. Northern Florida might do you well. What is called a hill there is
called a bump elsewhere, a lot like much of Ohio back from the river (too cold
there, though).
IIRC, the lowest temperature I saw in Jacksonville (many years ago, though),
was in December at around 58 deg. F.
Dunno about January and by February I was at Kaneohe Bay, HI.
Charlie Self
"Brevity is the soul of lingerie." Dorothy Parker
http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html
Upscale wrote:
> I'm ok with mountains, as long as they're all downhill. I used to like
> mountains and the outdoors too, fishing and hunting, but them days are
> gone. Saw a blurb on a news service too long ago saying that someone
> compared Kansas to a pancake and Kansas is flatter.
Kansas is cold though, I think. You want something further south or closer
to water. Florida is spendy. Why not try Savannah, Georgia? It gets
colder than 40 there sometimes, and I think they even see snow once every
ten years or so, but usually people are coming in to work in coats and
scarves and wool hats on days when I'm taking my light jacket off because
it's too hot.
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
Mike Patterson wrote:
> It is over near Savannah. And when that volcano drops into the sea
> over by Africa, I'm gonna have ocean front property over here near
> Atlanta...
I'll have ocean front property here in the mountains of Virginia too. I
already have my plan. Christiansburg beach. Nudists only, no fat people.
Admission, $5. (I couldn't go onto my own beach, but that's beside the
point. :)
> Seriously, Savannah is a very nice area. I'd like to move near there
> someday.
Too big for me. Of course, so is Hot-lanta.
Too flat too, and the same applies to both.
I like Georgia though. South Carolina too. I'd consider moving to either
of those states for $500,000. It would take $1,000,000 to get me to move
to North Carolina, and $65,000,000 to get me into Pennsylvania northwards.
For $583,000,000,000 USD I'll even move to Yellow Knife.
Hey, I'm not unwilling to relocate. I'm just demanding. :)
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
I'm ok with mountains, as long as they're all downhill. I used to like
mountains and the outdoors too, fishing and hunting, but them days are gone.
Saw a blurb on a news service too long ago saying that someone compared
Kansas to a pancake and Kansas is flatter.
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Yow. Sounds boring, but...I like mountains and know your reasons for
liking
> flatland. Northern Florida might do you well. What is called a hill there
is
> called a bump elsewhere, a lot like much of Ohio back from the river (too
cold
> there, though).
Upscale responds:
>I'm ok with mountains, as long as they're all downhill. I used to like
>mountains and the outdoors too, fishing and hunting, but them days are gone.
>Saw a blurb on a news service too long ago saying that someone compared
>Kansas to a pancake and Kansas is flatter.
I'm getting that way with my bad knees. I can't comment on Kansas, never having
been there. Arkansas a few times, but that's not flat. Or not all flat.
Charlie Self
"Brevity is the soul of lingerie." Dorothy Parker
http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html
Doug Winterburn <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> There's a wide spot in the road called Why, Arizona.
Is that anywhere close to Nothing, AZ (pop. 3)? Which is basically a gas
station in the middle of nowhere on the road between Wickenburg and
Wickieup. Got a big yellow sign next to the road that says "Hey! Nothing."
--
Jerry Maple
General Dynamics Decision Systems
Scottsdale, AZ
On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 12:30:41 -0700, Jerry Maple wrote:
> Doug Winterburn <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>> There's a wide spot in the road called Why, Arizona.
>
> Is that anywhere close to Nothing, AZ (pop. 3)? Which is basically a gas
> station in the middle of nowhere on the road between Wickenburg and
> Wickieup. Got a big yellow sign next to the road that says "Hey! Nothing."
No, Why is south of Aho on Highway 85.
-Doug
On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 09:04:31 -0700, Wes Stewart wrote:
> My wife and I are trying to visit all of the states before we croak.
> This past summer we were in our RV and traveling through Colorado
> where we visited Great Sand Dunes National Monument. Near there is a
> place called Zapata Falls which involves a short hike to reach.
> Getting the best view of the falls requires getting your feet wet and
> there were some folks sitting on a bench changing shoes.
>
> We struck up a conversation with a woman and the subject turned to
> where we were all from. The woman said she was from Kansas and my
> wife said, "Oh, we're going there next."
>
> With a puzzled look on her face the woman said, "Why?"
There's a wide spot in the road called Why, Arizona. I can imagine the
covered wagon crawling across the desert and pulling to a stop. The
husband says "This is it." The wife says "Why?"
-Doug
Is the terrain generally flat in Georgia?
"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Why not try Savannah, Georgia? It gets
> colder than 40 there sometimes, and I think they even see snow once every
> ten years or so, but usually people are coming in to work in coats and
> scarves and wool hats on days when I'm taking my light jacket off because
> it's too hot.
On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 14:36:19 GMT, "Upscale" <[email protected]>
wrote:
|I'm ok with mountains, as long as they're all downhill. I used to like
|mountains and the outdoors too, fishing and hunting, but them days are gone.
|Saw a blurb on a news service too long ago saying that someone compared
|Kansas to a pancake and Kansas is flatter.
My wife and I are trying to visit all of the states before we croak.
This past summer we were in our RV and traveling through Colorado
where we visited Great Sand Dunes National Monument. Near there is a
place called Zapata Falls which involves a short hike to reach.
Getting the best view of the falls requires getting your feet wet and
there were some folks sitting on a bench changing shoes.
We struck up a conversation with a woman and the subject turned to
where we were all from. The woman said she was from Kansas and my
wife said, "Oh, we're going there next."
With a puzzled look on her face the woman said, "Why?"
On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 16:03:10 GMT, Doug Winterburn
<[email protected]> wrote:
|There's a wide spot in the road called Why, Arizona.
Why that's only a few miles west of me. (Sorry I couldn't help myself)
Upscale wrote:
> Is the terrain generally flat in Georgia?
In Savannah especially. It's right on the coast.
Most coastal areas in the south are pretty much as flat as Kansas I'd say.
When you move inland a bit, it's a different story. Everything is still
comparatively flat, but they don't bother to grade the roads as well as
they do in higher country. The strange result is that there are actually
worse grades to negotiate rolling through, say, the Midlands of South
Carolina than one might expect.
If you want warm and flat, you don't have to limit yourself to Florida.
Even the Tidewater region of Virginia is fairly warm, and quite flat. I
think the ocean has a mitigating effect on snowfall and climate. They get
some snow, and some cold, but it's a different world from here in the New
River Valley.
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
It is over near Savannah. And when that volcano drops into the sea
over by Africa, I'm gonna have ocean front property over here near
Atlanta...
Seriously, Savannah is a very nice area. I'd like to move near there
someday.
Mike
On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 20:10:52 GMT, "Upscale" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Is the terrain generally flat in Georgia?
>
>"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Why not try Savannah, Georgia? It gets
>> colder than 40 there sometimes, and I think they even see snow once every
>> ten years or so, but usually people are coming in to work in coats and
>> scarves and wool hats on days when I'm taking my light jacket off because
>> it's too hot.
>
Mike Patterson
Please remove the spamtrap to email me.
Robert Bonomi wrote:
> You call _ID_ *flat*??? They farm 3 sides of every acre up there.
> My uncle has a 'hill' on the far side of the stream in his back yard,
> that goes _nearly_ straight up almost 1500 ft. That's a 1500' "rise"
> in a "run" of less than 100 ft.
The dangers of generalization and ignorance. <g> The part I drove through
from IL to OH was flat.
Parts of western SD don't have great views either. ;-)
-- Mark
Took basic training at Fort Bliss, then back there again after OCS for a
year before going overseas. Being a flatlander, I loved looking at the
Franklin Mtns with the sun behind them, sitting on the first base line of
the old El Paso Sun Kings minor league ball park, with a cold beer in hand,
enjoying that peaceful stillness peculiar to the desert at sunset.
What I didn't like was marching 12 miles to the rifle range through foot
deep desert sand ... my Achilles tendons have never been the same.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 1/02/04
"Mark Jerde" wrote in message
> Yup. And not just in miles. <g>
>
> -- Mark
> (5 years on Ft. Bliss, TX, adjacent to El Paso)
Blue wrote:
> Mike,
> How close is "close"? Maybe I should get a Mr. Heater propane with a blower.
>
Hard to say, since I don't know how cold it gets where you are. Where I
am (Ottawa, Canada), tomorrow's high is -21C (-6F), and at that
temperature, I would probably need to be within 8-10 feet of it for it
to be effective.
...Mike
Blue wrote:
> I've been eyeballing that heater! Has anyone used one? Would it keep me from
> freezing in my uninsulated shop if I hung it over my bench? Or is it a
> gimmick?
>
I've got one in my garage. It works well if you are standing close to
it, but is by no stretch a space heater (but it isn't meant to be
either). If you were to put it over your bench, I expect it would work
quite well for you.
The version with the light in the middle wasn't available when I bought
mine. Too bad, it would be handy.
...Mike
I've been eyeballing that heater! Has anyone used one? Would it keep me from
freezing in my uninsulated shop if I hung it over my bench? Or is it a
gimmick?
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Everybody seems to be singing the praises of LV. Well I for one am not
> happy . They moved in to this area a couple of years back, although
> I've only been going there for several months. They keep sending me
> their catalogues, you know Tools, Hardware, and Gardening.
> You just know that in their latest there will be something that you
> "need". Well it seems that I'm always in there with my sparse spare
> cash. My other hobbies are suffering and it don't seem right. Now the
> SWMBO is taken to browsing the catalogues as well. Its getting so that
> I can't sneak off the LV without some company. I don't believe it
> right that one company should get so much of my attention. Its a good
> thing winter came along so that I can't work out in my garage. So I
> have turned some attention to my photo hobby(going to photo my first
> hockey game next week). However LV is very sneaky. I see that they
> have an IR heater that would no doubt work very well in the garage.
> They must have put that in there so that guys like me would continue
> to patronize them in the winter. I mentioned this heater to the SWMBO,
> so if you don't hear from me you know I'm back out in the garage.
> Ken, temporarily not makin dust in NS
Blue wrote:
> and Lazyboy. It was 10 last time I looked at the thermometer, and for us
> wimps on the east coast of VA, that is COLD...especially considering it
> was 80 a week ago.
65 here in the mountains, but I agree how much this sucks.
Fortunately, I'm doing OK getting used to the cold. I didn't turn my heat
on until about 4:00 today. It was 40 in the shop, with the sun heating the
dark building. Not warm enough for glue, but plenty toasty enough for
turning.
Going from 80 to 10 sucks, but I'll bet you don't have snow on the ground
out on the coast. From the looks of it, we'll have this stuff for a week
at least.
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
Well I happened to come across the same one (with the light) at a local Mom
'n Pop hardware store for $59 and I couldn't resist. Mounted it today
(practically got frost-bit doing so), decided it needed to be lower cause
the heat wasn't getting down to me, dis-mounted it and put extensions down
from the joists then remounted it (more frost bite) and finally decided that
it was just to darn cold for the poor thing and went inside to my fireplace
and Lazyboy. It was 10 last time I looked at the thermometer, and for us
wimps on the east coast of VA, that is COLD...especially considering it was
80 a week ago.
"George G" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I was going to send for one but drove 5 miles to Lowes and picked up an
> identical one. (same brand name with the light) It was $10 cheaper and
> I didn't have to pay any postage on it and no wait.
> George
>
> On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 18:19:50 GMT, "mttt" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> -El Paso, Texas is closer to L.A. than it is to the Eastern border of
> Texas. (!)
Yup. And not just in miles. <g>
-- Mark
(5 years on Ft. Bliss, TX, adjacent to El Paso)
Mike Alexander <[email protected]> wrote in news:7rcLb.28898$AJB.17504
@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com:
> Blue wrote:
>> "vicious" cold snap right now...it's 23 at midnight.
>
> Put a minus sign in front of that, and you have our expected low for
> tonight.
>
> ...Mike
>
They're predicting a high of 78 for Saturday in Phoenix.
Neener, neener.
--
Jerry Maple
General Dynamics Decision Systems
Scottsdale, AZ
DC <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Jerry Maple wrote in <[email protected]>:
>> Mike Alexander <[email protected]> wrote in news:7rcLb.28898$AJB.17504
>> @news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com:
>
>> They're predicting a high of 78 for Saturday in Phoenix.
>> Neener, neener.
>
> Whatever. My beer will be colder than yours. Oh, wait -- USans don't
> have beer. Forget that I mentioned it, Jerry.
>
That's why my drink of choice usually involves Tequila. <G>
--
Jerry Maple
General Dynamics Decision Systems
Scottsdale, AZ
Silvan wrote:
> Mark Jerde wrote:
>
>> I hear you. I grew up in western South Dakota where you could
>> always see at
>> least 5 miles in some direction. Been in the Washington DC area for
>> 15 years but I still don't consider myself a Maryland'er. Too many
>> trees & people -- no vistas! <g>
>
> That's because you live near DC. Try going to western Maryland. If
> you can't see for five miles it's because of the vistas getting in
> your way. :)
Been there several times. Didn't get the tee shirt. ;-)
True, there are places you can *go* in MD where there are good views. IMO
it's different from western SD, western Nebraska, eastern Wyoming and
eastern Montana. Most places there have good views. (Eastern SD, MN, IL &
ID are too flat for my liking.)
I'm a cloud nut. I especially like watching thunderheads building &
churning. The great plains is the place to be for that hobby.
> (Not that I'm advocating Maryland as a place to live, mind you, but
> if I had to live in Maryland, Cumberland would be OK.)
Last time I drove through to Morgantown WV I noticed all that beautiful
hardwood just waiting to be made into lumber. <g>
-- Mark
On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 18:19:50 GMT, "mttt" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=US&countryid=250&addtohistory=&address=&city=midland&state=tx&zipcode=&submit=Get+Map
Totally OT of me, but so what? (Like that would be new?) ;>
Clicking on your map link and panning out a bit, I remembered a couple
of Geography trivia I'd forgotten:
-El Paso, Texas is closer to L.A. than it is to the Eastern border of
Texas. (!)
-If you want to go west, go to Los Angeles. If you want to go farther
west, you'll want to go to Reno, Nevada. ;>
Michael
Cartography nut.
Bonus cartographic trivia question:
In which country is the East Coast west of the West Coast and the West
Coast east of the East Coast? (This country lies entirely within one
hemisphere-- that is, there is no "date-line" hanky-panky involved.)
Mike,
How close is "close"? Maybe I should get a Mr. Heater propane with a blower.
"Mike Alexander" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Blue wrote:
> > I've been eyeballing that heater! Has anyone used one? Would it keep me
from
> > freezing in my uninsulated shop if I hung it over my bench? Or is it a
> > gimmick?
> >
>
> I've got one in my garage. It works well if you are standing close to
> it, but is by no stretch a space heater (but it isn't meant to be
> either). If you were to put it over your bench, I expect it would work
> quite well for you.
>
> The version with the light in the middle wasn't available when I bought
> mine. Too bad, it would be handy.
>
> ...Mike
In article <[email protected]>,
Juergen Hannappel <[email protected]> wrote:
>[email protected] (Robert Bonomi) writes:
>
>
>[...]
>
>> You call _ID_ *flat*??? They farm 3 sides of every acre up there. My
>> uncle has a 'hill' on the far side of the stream in his back yard, that
>> goes _nearly_ straight up almost 1500 ft. That's a 1500' "rise" in a "run"
>> of less than 100 ft.
>
>Sounds very flat, just not horizontal...
*chuckle*
There was the occasional 'small' (i.e. 70' or so) pine tree growing 'out of'
it. (On occasion, rock would split off and come crashing down. I saw that
happen, a couple of times, with just small stuff. My cousin says it was
"impressive" the day a tree from halfway up the 'hill' ended up in the stream.)
Aside from that, yeah, not a lot of variance on 'Z' axis.
Quite a bit of excursion on the 'X' axis, however, as you proceed along
the 'Y' axis.
Robin Lee wrote:
> Today, windchill is -47.2F in Ottawa.... :) Ambient temp is -27C. (Time
> to put on gloves....)
Gack. It was a balmy 30-ish today here. Maybe -1 C or thereabouts. We got
5" of snow, and schools closed.
They sure are being wimpy about that these days. When I was a kid, the
busses chained up, and it took a lot more than five lousy inches of snow to
get a day off.
I suppose up there you just paint lines on the snow, eh? :)
> Just got back from the receiving department...Kelton rep is here helping
Kelton... I caught that subtle hint. Did the Kelton rep fly up from New
Zealand? If so, I'll bet he's in total shock. (Not as shocked as SWMBO
was when I showed her the new tool porn though. I think she hates you.
Sending her a gardening catalog won't get you anywhere either, because I'm
the gardener in the family.)
> (PS - like your garden photography!)
I wish I had a scanner that worked. The stuff on my web site is seriously
old, and definitely not my best work. My scanner is so old there's just no
using it anymore, and it's just such a low priority item to replace.
BTW, you have me thoroughly spoiled. I ordered something from Harbor
Freight on Sunday. It isn't here yet. I don't even know if they shipped
it. If I had bought something from you, I'd have most likely had it by
yesterday.
Oh, while I've got your ear (eye) I thought I'd mention something. I picked
up a set of those dovetail markers from SWMBO for Christmas. I popped open
the package and took them out to the shop along with my new saddle square.
So, a few days later, I thought to play with them. I had one reddish one
and one gold one, I think. Which is which? So I looked at the package.
"Marker I ->" "Marker II ->" with both arrows pointing to a spot in the
empty bubble pack. Decidedly unhelpful. :)
Yes, of course I can figure it out, but I'm wondering what the story was
behind not printing the colors on the packaging. Are they sometimes
different colors, depending on what you're annodizing that day?
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Robert Bonomi wrote:
> How, pray tell, did you go through *IDAHO*, going from IL to OH??
Oh, duh. ;-)
>> Parts of western SD don't have great views either. ;-)
>
> Wildly variable, there. There are expanses of very flat territory,
> and then there are the Black "hills", which are big/rugged enough to
> qualify as mountains in many places.
I'm a Sturgis HS alumni, class of 1977. Did a lot of hunting in the hills.
> I've been up to the top of some of those 'hills' -- Forest Ranger
> fire- spotting station, in point of fact. A 4-story building on the
> top of
> the highest point in the area. (Note there were metal tower about 50'
> away, on three sides of the structure -- some of the heaviest
> 'lightning rods' I've ever seen. :) The top story was panoramic
> glass, from waist level, to the ceiling. About a 16x16 room, with
> an 8' square 'table' (covered with a map of the territory) in the
> middle of it.
A college friend was lucky enough to get a summer job watching for fires
from one of the lookouts. I envied her. ;-)
> Great for sky watching. Sometimes you were looking _down_ on clouds
> in the valleys. <grin>
Silvan -
Today, windchill is -47.2F in Ottawa.... :) Ambient temp is -27C. (Time to
put on gloves....)
Just got back from the receiving department...Kelton rep is here helping
with a shipment inspection, and the stock's so cold it's frosting up as soon
as it's exposed to the air.... Have to heat up the skids before proceeding!
Cheers -
Rob
(PS - like your garden photography!)
"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Blue wrote:
>
> > Whoa! A high of -6???? And you need to be 8 - 10 ft from the heater???
I
> > think it will work just fine for me. I am in Virginia and -6 would keep
me
> > from even walking across the yard to get to the shop. LOL We are having
> > what we call a "vicious" cold snap right now...it's 23 at midnight.
>
> It was 16 when I left here last night. That's pretty cold by my
standards.
>
> That's why we have the good sense to live in Virginia instead of
Canukistan.
>
> (Or even Pennsylvania for that matter. Too cold up there too. <shiver>)
>
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Mark Jerde wrote:
> I hear you. I grew up in western South Dakota where you could always see
> at
> least 5 miles in some direction. Been in the Washington DC area for 15
> years but I still don't consider myself a Maryland'er. Too many trees &
> people -- no vistas! <g>
That's because you live near DC. Try going to western Maryland. If you
can't see for five miles it's because of the vistas getting in your
way. :)
(Not that I'm advocating Maryland as a place to live, mind you, but if I had
to live in Maryland, Cumberland would be OK.)
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> Swingman wrote:
> > Took basic training at Fort Bliss, then back there again after OCS
> > for a year before going overseas.
>
> When was that? I was OCS 5-85. Ft. Benning's School for Boys... <g>
OCS 4-68, Commanche County Canon Cockers College, Ft Sill, OK ... ;>)
> The Army's big on those LPC's (leather personnel carriers). Whatever your
> MOS, everyone is an 11B when push comes to shove.
Tell me about it. Serverd with an ARVN Ranger Btn in RVN, and although an
Artillery 02 FO at the time, I took every step they took ... well close,
they averaged about two steps to my one.
> My son is in his last week of basic in Ft. Sill. I thought he'd join the
> Air Force so he wouldn't have to walk everywhere. Guess he want's to show
> the old man up. I was in the "special emphasis" PT group in basic. He
was
> smart enough to go in nearly maxing the PT test. His experience is a LOT
> different from mine. <G>
My hat's off to him.
> P.S. The best 10 seconds of my life was firing 100 rounds of 20mm ammo
> through a Vulcan.
LOL ... I took great comfort in my midnight requistioned M79 Grenade
Launcher with buckshot rounds. On a very personal level, it'd put about the
same number of projectiles in the air with one shot. :)
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On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:36:30 -0500, "Robin Lee" <[email protected]>
scribbled:
>Today, windchill is -47.2F in Ottawa.... :) Ambient temp is -27C. (Time to
>put on gloves....)
It's only -15C in Whitehorse (-27C with the windchill) - much balmier.
A couple of years ago, I was in Ottawa walking along Sparks Street and
it only about 20 below, plus whatever windchill. I don't remember ever
being that cold in the Yukon, and I was wearing my parka, tuque,
sweater, Sorels, etc.
>Just got back from the receiving department...Kelton rep is here helping
>with a shipment inspection, and the stock's so cold it's frosting up as soon
>as it's exposed to the air.... Have to heat up the skids before proceeding!
You wouldn't have this problem here - the humidity is so low that no
frost would form. One more reason to open a store in Whitehorse. :-)
Luigi
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Luigi Zanasi writes:
>
>>Today, windchill is -47.2F in Ottawa.... :) Ambient temp is -27C. (Time to
>>put on gloves....)
>
>It's only -15C in Whitehorse (-27C with the windchill) - much balmier.
>A couple of years ago, I was in Ottawa walking along Sparks Street and
>it only about 20 below, plus whatever windchill. I don't remember ever
>being that cold in the Yukon, and I was wearing my parka, tuque,
>sweater, Sorels, etc.
Sparks, if it's the one I recall, was pretty chilly back the end of May, so
cold would be expected in winter, I'd guess. That's the outdoor mall sort of
deal, with no traffic, except at cross streets, etc., IIRC. Great place, with
much more real character than actual malls ever have.
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Charlie Self wrote:
> Sparks, if it's the one I recall, was pretty chilly back the end of May, so
> cold would be expected in winter, I'd guess. That's the outdoor mall sort of
> deal, with no traffic, except at cross streets, etc., IIRC. Great place, with
> much more real character than actual malls ever have.
Yup, that would be it. Some areas of Sparks Street really catch and
funnel the wind, so it can get really cold walking down there in the winter.
BTW, Rob, -20C isn't enough to keep me away. I was in the store earlier
this afternoon, picking up my back ordered 10" sliding bevel, and a few
other goodies. Only problem was, I had one of my dogs (Sophie) with me,
and I thought I was going to have to beat off some of your staff to get
her out of the store ;)
...Mike
Jerry Maple wrote:
> They're predicting a high of 78 for Saturday in Phoenix.
> Neener, neener.
No neener. You live way too close to California for comfort. :)
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"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>
> What's that Texas? I said I wanted to get out of the cold, not move to
where
> I'd melt. We're talking reasonable here son. I hear Texans are big on
>
Oh sure - start throwing in the qualifiers now! "We really wanted a
two-story house." "Nice, but we need a bigger back yard!" "Too far from the
grocery store." "Too close to the Maximum Security Prison."
Drove your realtor nuts, didn't ya? :)
'Sides - think of Texas as one giant Kiln Dryer. Be real good for your
rough cut wood.
Blue wrote:
> Whoa! A high of -6???? And you need to be 8 - 10 ft from the heater??? I
> think it will work just fine for me. I am in Virginia and -6 would keep me
> from even walking across the yard to get to the shop. LOL We are having
> what we call a "vicious" cold snap right now...it's 23 at midnight.
It was 16 when I left here last night. That's pretty cold by my standards.
That's why we have the good sense to live in Virginia instead of Canukistan.
(Or even Pennsylvania for that matter. Too cold up there too. <shiver>)
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Michael Baglio wrote:
> -If you want to go west, go to Los Angeles. If you want to go farther
> west, you'll want to go to Reno, Nevada. ;>
Starting in Christiansburg, VA it's 375 miles to Virginia Beach, 400 miles
to Myrtle Beach, SC, and 450 miles to Savannah, GA.
Virginia Beach is approximately 500 miles from Savannah, GA.
> Bonus cartographic trivia question:
> In which country is the East Coast west of the West Coast and the West
> Coast east of the East Coast? (This country lies entirely within one
> hemisphere-- that is, there is no "date-line" hanky-panky involved.)
I will guess Australia, but I have no idea why I'm guessing that.
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Jerry Maple wrote in <[email protected]>:
> Mike Alexander <[email protected]> wrote in news:7rcLb.28898$AJB.17504
> @news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com:
>> Blue wrote:
>>> "vicious" cold snap right now...it's 23 at midnight.
>> Put a minus sign in front of that, and you have our expected low for
>> tonight.
> They're predicting a high of 78 for Saturday in Phoenix.
> Neener, neener.
Whatever. My beer will be colder than yours. Oh, wait -- USans don't
have beer. Forget that I mentioned it, Jerry.
<passes Mike a cold one...>
Neener. };O)
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Jerry Maple wrote:
> That's why my drink of choice usually involves Tequila. <G>
Mine too. Can't wait to take the next train to Margaritaville... :)
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On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 04:56:03 GMT, Mike Alexander <[email protected]>
wrote:
|Blue wrote:
|> Mike,
|> How close is "close"? Maybe I should get a Mr. Heater propane with a blower.
|>
|
|Hard to say, since I don't know how cold it gets where you are. Where I
|am (Ottawa, Canada), tomorrow's high is -21C (-6F),
That is the all-time recorded *low* temperature for Tucson <g>.
January 7, 1913. Exactly 91 years later (yesterday) it was was 40 F
(low) and 70 F (high). Supposed to get to 77 tomorrow. Brr.
Whoa! A high of -6???? And you need to be 8 - 10 ft from the heater??? I
think it will work just fine for me. I am in Virginia and -6 would keep me
from even walking across the yard to get to the shop. LOL We are having what
we call a "vicious" cold snap right now...it's 23 at midnight.
"Mike Alexander" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Blue wrote:
> > Mike,
> > How close is "close"? Maybe I should get a Mr. Heater propane with a
blower.
> >
>
> Hard to say, since I don't know how cold it gets where you are. Where I
> am (Ottawa, Canada), tomorrow's high is -21C (-6F), and at that
> temperature, I would probably need to be within 8-10 feet of it for it
> to be effective.
>
> ...Mike
[email protected] (Robert Bonomi) writes:
[...]
> You call _ID_ *flat*??? They farm 3 sides of every acre up there. My
> uncle has a 'hill' on the far side of the stream in his back yard, that
> goes _nearly_ straight up almost 1500 ft. That's a 1500' "rise" in a "run"
> of less than 100 ft.
Sounds very flat, just not horizontal...
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