I have a 22x22 workshop that is stand alone with 12 foot ceilings. It
has a concrete pad with some insulation in the walls and roof. My
existing AC windows unit just died and I have been looking at the dual
AC/HEATER units as a replacement now. In the past I have used a
propane canon type heater to heat it in the winter. Amazon has a
Frigidaire FAM18ER2A unit which is a little large in the cooling BTU
rating for my shop. I also have been using a stand alone dehumidifier
to keep the humidity down. The old unit was a 12000 btu and it did a
fair job most days.
The new one runs on 220 which is not a problem and I hoped it would be
a little cheaper than the older 110/15 amp unit.
Does anyone have any experence with these dual units.
Product Features
* 18,500-BTU air conditioner with 16,000-BTU heat and electronic
controls
* For rooms up to 1170 square feet; 10.7 EER; full-function remote
* Variable-speed fan; multiple air direction; 24-hour on/off timer
* Energy-saver and sleep modes; quick-mount window kit; tilt-out
filter
* Measures 25-3/8 by 23-5/8 by 17-3/4 inches; 1-year full warranty
Shipping is free so that's not a big problem.
On Apr 9, 10:20 pm, "Greg O" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "mountaintop" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:772ec35b-631c-48db-b350-0bdfd232a3ce@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> >I have a 22x22 workshop that is stand alone with 12 foot ceilings. It
> > has a concrete pad with some insulation in the walls and roof. My
> > existing AC windows unit just died and I have been looking at the dual
> > AC/HEATER units as a replacement now.
>
> Is this a heat pump, or straight electric heat? If it is straight electric
> it will consume about 4700 watts per hour running on continuous heat.
> Depending on your electric rates , say $0.10 KWH it will run you about $0.47
> per hour to run for heating.
> Also how many BTU do you need to heat your shop? My bet the propane heater
> you were using has a much larger BTU output.I know where I live the heat
> from that unit would never even take the chill out of the air in the colder
> days of the year!
> Greg
We live in western N.C. where it's not bad but does run about 20-40 in
winter. My shop only hit below 32 three times this year compared to 10
last year. I keep all my glue and water based products in a light box
which comes on around 35 degree.
I really like the propane heater as it raises the temp about 1 degree
a minute in the winter and have wondered how this dual unit would
compare. If it not going to get the job done then a smaller AC maybe
better. THis is the lowest cooling BTU I could find and do believe it
is to large I'm afraid.
The unit is a straight heater with strips
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "mountaintop" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:772ec35b-631c-48db-b350-0bdfd232a3ce@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> >I have a 22x22 workshop that is stand alone with 12 foot ceilings. It
> > has a concrete pad with some insulation in the walls and roof. My
> > existing AC windows unit just died and I have been looking at the dual
> > AC/HEATER units as a replacement now. In the past I have used a
> > propane canon type heater to heat it in the winter. Amazon has a
> > Frigidaire FAM18ER2A unit which is a little large in the cooling BTU
> > rating for my shop. I also have been using a stand alone dehumidifier
> > to keep the humidity down. The old unit was a 12000 btu and it did a
> > fair job most days.
> > The new one runs on 220 which is not a problem and I hoped it would be
> > a little cheaper than the older 110/15 amp unit.
> > Does anyone have any experence with these dual units.
> >
> > Product Features
> >
> > * 18,500-BTU air conditioner with 16,000-BTU heat and electronic
> > controls
> > * For rooms up to 1170 square feet; 10.7 EER; full-function remote
> > * Variable-speed fan; multiple air direction; 24-hour on/off timer
> > * Energy-saver and sleep modes; quick-mount window kit; tilt-out
> > filter
> > * Measures 25-3/8 by 23-5/8 by 17-3/4 inches; 1-year full warranty
> >
> > Shipping is free so that's not a big problem.
>
> Something to consider. The unit appears to be more than adequate and that
> might be a problem It is normally recommended to not buy too big of a
unit
> as they will cool every thing down quickly and then shut down. This can
> cause excessive condensation to accumulate because the unit does not run
> long enough to actually dehumidify the room also.
>
>
Sorry Leon, but I am responding late to "mountaintop" <[email protected]>,
the original poster.
My shop is almost as large as yours (16 X 26 with 9' ceiling) and is
heated/cooled with a window unit style 24,000 BTU heat pump that is mounted
through the North wall up high. It is a detached wooden barn style structure
that is insulated with 6" bats of fiberglass in the ceiling and 3 1/2 in the
walls (first floor only). I live in central NC just North of Charlotte. The
only time that my unit seems to struggle to hold comfortable temperature is
when the outside air temp is above 95 degrees or below 20. Even then it
manages to keep the shop above 60 and below 80. It would be nice if it could
do a little better, but the unit was given to me (free) by a neighbor. If or
when it dies I'll get one that's a bit bigger (maybe 36-40,000 BTU, but I've
been very happy with it for the price. I modified the front cover a bit so
it would take a pleated paper filter to keep the dust out of the coils, but
other than changing that and a good air blast cleaning of it annually it has
performed flawlessly for 14 years. I only run it when I am working in the
shop or when the temperature will be going below freezing (to keep the water
lines, glue, paint, and batteries happy). On a very cold, but above
freezing, day it takes about 2 hours to bring the shop and the cast iron up
to comfortable working temps, should I decide at the last minute that I want
to work out there. You didn't say where you live and this make a big
difference in the comparison so I hope this info helps in your decision. In
areas significantly farther North of the Charlotte climate heat pumps aren't
a very efficient source of heat. Contact me direct if you have any
questions.
Charley
"mountaintop" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:772ec35b-631c-48db-b350-0bdfd232a3ce@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>I have a 22x22 workshop that is stand alone with 12 foot ceilings. It
> has a concrete pad with some insulation in the walls and roof. My
> existing AC windows unit just died and I have been looking at the dual
> AC/HEATER units as a replacement now. In the past I have used a
> propane canon type heater to heat it in the winter. Amazon has a
> Frigidaire FAM18ER2A unit which is a little large in the cooling BTU
> rating for my shop. I also have been using a stand alone dehumidifier
> to keep the humidity down. The old unit was a 12000 btu and it did a
> fair job most days.
> The new one runs on 220 which is not a problem and I hoped it would be
> a little cheaper than the older 110/15 amp unit.
> Does anyone have any experence with these dual units.
>
> Product Features
>
> * 18,500-BTU air conditioner with 16,000-BTU heat and electronic
> controls
> * For rooms up to 1170 square feet; 10.7 EER; full-function remote
> * Variable-speed fan; multiple air direction; 24-hour on/off timer
> * Energy-saver and sleep modes; quick-mount window kit; tilt-out
> filter
> * Measures 25-3/8 by 23-5/8 by 17-3/4 inches; 1-year full warranty
>
> Shipping is free so that's not a big problem.
Something to consider. The unit appears to be more than adequate and that
might be a problem It is normally recommended to not buy too big of a unit
as they will cool every thing down quickly and then shut down. This can
cause excessive condensation to accumulate because the unit does not run
long enough to actually dehumidify the room also.
"mountaintop" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:772ec35b-631c-48db-b350-0bdfd232a3ce@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>I have a 22x22 workshop that is stand alone with 12 foot ceilings. It
> has a concrete pad with some insulation in the walls and roof. My
> existing AC windows unit just died and I have been looking at the dual
> AC/HEATER units as a replacement now.
Is this a heat pump, or straight electric heat? If it is straight electric
it will consume about 4700 watts per hour running on continuous heat.
Depending on your electric rates , say $0.10 KWH it will run you about $0.47
per hour to run for heating.
Also how many BTU do you need to heat your shop? My bet the propane heater
you were using has a much larger BTU output.I know where I live the heat
from that unit would never even take the chill out of the air in the colder
days of the year!
Greg