"J. Clarke" wrote
>
> If you're using a router, shut down your whole system, all of it,
> everything, bring up the DSL modem, then the router, then any servers,
> then
> the machine you work with, and see if that fixes the problem.
>
I just can't help myself.
Should he take the router out of the router table first??
Groannnn..., well..., I tried to make it woodworking related...
Upscale wrote:
> "WD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
>>replied. "You are a liar", he immediately hung up.Everyone knows DSL is
>
> slower
>
>>than Cable connection, even if you compare cables connection, not all ISP
>
> are
>
>>equal.
>
>
> And the same thing can be said for cable. Cable *should be* faster under
> ideal circumstances, but rarely are things ideal. In the case of Roger's
> cable, my DSL connection is most definitely faster than Rogers has *ever*
> been when I had Roger's service. Sad fact is that since they have a monopoly
> on cable in the Toronto area, they're overly arrogant, overpriced and
> underachieving. I suspect it's similar with other cable companies depending
> on location.
>
>
The same here in Buffalo, NY. Time Warner has, to date, the exclusive
cable franchise for the city. I had Time Warner's cable internet
service and when school let out my speed dropped to less than that of
dial-up. I switched to a Verizon's higher speed DSL and it's faster
than the best I ever saw with T/W. I will say that I'm only about three
city blocks from the Verizon C.O. which helps greatly.
Verizon has had FiOS on my street for over a year but, as of yet, they
can't offer TV service in the city. As soon as they do I'll be
switching my TV, phone and internet over to that.
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]
On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:10:32 -0400, FrozenNorth
<[email protected]> wrote:
>dusty wrote:
>> FrozenNorth <[email protected]> wrote in news:iKb2m.234350
>> [email protected]:
>>
>>> Andrew Barss wrote:
>>>> J. Clarke <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> : dusty wrote:
>>>> :> This is what you get with AT&T high speed $19.95 high speed service
>>>> :> Latest from www.Speedtest .net
>>>> :> Ping: 108 ms
>>>> :> Download 0.19 Mb/s
>>>> :> Upload 0.32 Mb/s
>>>>
>>>> : If your upload is faster than your download something is wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Those measured speeds are strange.
>>>>
>>>> Try another speed test, like http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
>>>>
>>> If that doesn't work, you need a line quality check.
>>> Those numbers are just wrong.
>>>
>> Here it is
>> http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
>> download 191 kbps
>> upload 320 kbps
>>
>> I've had a whole bunch of line quality checks and all they
>> can say is i'm to far from the node
>
>I meant actually call somebody out to you house and check it, if those
>are the best you can get, they shouldn't have sold you the service.
Agreed. I've got Fast Access Lite for $19.95 at close to 17,000 feet
from the DSlam, yet it is much faster than dialup. You can complain to
AT&T about your slow speed, and if they can not speed it up, you may
be disqualified from AT&T DSL. My neighbor was disqualified so I'm
lucky to have it for the price.
On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:07:57 -0400, Phisherman <[email protected]> wrote:
>Which one has the lower pricing?
>AT&T: $19.95/ month, free home install
>Comcast: $42.99 /month, $50 installation
(No offence please)
Of course AT&T is cheaper!
How about Netzero, it's only $1.98/mth!!!
http://www.netzero.net/
Are you compare apple to apple or apple to crap?
I called AT&T a few months back regarding their promotion, the sales person told
me AT&T (DSL) is faster than Comcast cable. I was stunned at his sales pitch, I
replied. "You are a liar", he immediately hung up.Everyone knows DSL is slower
than Cable connection, even if you compare cables connection, not all ISP are
equal. It depend where you are and how many people are connected at the same
time. Even under the ideal conditions, your computer, O/S have signification
affect to your upload and download speed. Not forgetting ISP do throttle your
speed too!!
I am not defending Comcast, I believe Comcast is another crap. I use to live in
Kansas City, a small independent ISP provide Cable TV, cable Internet and cable
telephone services: all for a miserable $99.00. Mine you. You get free local,
domestic long distance. The Cable TV are all digital, including DIY channel and
many more channels than Comcast or AT&T free. The cable connection is Fiber
Optic 5Mb and 10Mb connection.
http://www.surewest.com/bundles/
.
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "dusty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>
>> And the AT&T thieves are not giving us a lower price for less service.
>> I think AT&T should be sued for false advertising their $19.95 high speed
>> internet service is NOT fast. Average speeds here in STL are 525 minutes
>> to
>> down load a move 44 minutes to download a video clip 15 or more minutes
>> to
>> download a 1 minute Youtube
>> This is what you get with AT&T high speed $19.95 high speed service
>> Latest from www.Speedtest .net
>> Ping: 108 ms
>> Download 0.19 Mb/s
>> Upload 0.32 Mb/s
>
>
> You realize that when DSL first started showing up, at least in my
> neighborhood 10 years ago I was paying $40 per month for the $20 speed you
> are getting now. Not fast? Go back to dial up for 3 months and see if
> you have the same impression.
Sounds like a "good enough" comment to me. <G>
Max (good enough ain't good enough)
"True DSL" still carries that rule....
Most DSL in homes today is not 100% DSL but a
fancy combo of hardware and software.
ADSL is what most home owners really have...
True DSL is what "was" called dedicated lease line
or full duplex service.
Very few folks are willing to pay for that.
The telephone folks needed a new thing to sell
and along came DSL.
http://www.nexusnet.com.au/knowledge/dsl.htm
Leon wrote:
> A side from that it used to be that you could be no more than 2 miles from
> the telephone office to receive DSL.
>
>
On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:15:43 -0700, WD <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:07:57 -0400, Phisherman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Which one has the lower pricing?
>
>>AT&T: $19.95/ month, free home install
>>Comcast: $42.99 /month, $50 installation
>
>(No offence please)
>
>Of course AT&T is cheaper!
>How about Netzero, it's only $1.98/mth!!!
>
Site?
"WD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> replied. "You are a liar", he immediately hung up.Everyone knows DSL is
slower
> than Cable connection, even if you compare cables connection, not all ISP
are
> equal.
And the same thing can be said for cable. Cable *should be* faster under
ideal circumstances, but rarely are things ideal. In the case of Roger's
cable, my DSL connection is most definitely faster than Rogers has *ever*
been when I had Roger's service. Sad fact is that since they have a monopoly
on cable in the Toronto area, they're overly arrogant, overpriced and
underachieving. I suspect it's similar with other cable companies depending
on location.
"dusty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>>
>
> And the AT&T thieves are not giving us a lower price for less service.
> I think AT&T should be sued for false advertising their $19.95 high speed
> internet service is NOT fast. Average speeds here in STL are 525 minutes
> to
> down load a move 44 minutes to download a video clip 15 or more minutes
> to
> download a 1 minute Youtube
> This is what you get with AT&T high speed $19.95 high speed service
> Latest from www.Speedtest .net
> Ping: 108 ms
> Download 0.19 Mb/s
> Upload 0.32 Mb/s
You realize that when DSL first started showing up, at least in my
neighborhood 10 years ago I was paying $40 per month for the $20 speed you
are getting now. Not fast? Go back to dial up for 3 months and see if you
have the same impression.
"dusty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> FrozenNorth <[email protected]> wrote in news:iKb2m.234350
> [email protected]:
> Here it is
> http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
> download 191 kbps
> upload 320 kbps
>
> I've had a whole bunch of line quality checks and all they
> can say is i'm to far from the node
I am no expert however I would think that too far from the node would also
affect up load speed. IIRC 320 upload is not that bad. I had a similar
problem about 8-9 years ago, it turned out that the line had a bad shield
"at the telephone office". They had to isolate the line and run me through
a new one. That took about 10 days.
A side from that it used to be that you could be no more than 2 miles from
the telephone office to receive DSL.
<[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
>
> Please note that on or around July 15, 2009, AT&T will no longer be
> offering access to the Usenet Netnews service. If you wish to
> continue reading Usenet newsgroups, access is available through
> third-party vendors.
>
> http://support.att.net/usenet
>
>
> Distribution: AT&T SouthEast Newsgroups Servers
>
And the AT&T thieves are not giving us a lower price for less service.
I think AT&T should be sued for false advertising their $19.95 high speed
internet service is NOT fast. Average speeds here in STL are 525 minutes
to
down load a move 44 minutes to download a video clip 15 or more minutes
to
download a 1 minute Youtube
This is what you get with AT&T high speed $19.95 high speed service
Latest from www.Speedtest .net
Ping: 108 ms
Download 0.19 Mb/s
Upload 0.32 Mb/s
AT&T rated Number 27 in Global Broadband speed but rated # 1 in the
world
for highest pricing
FrozenNorth <[email protected]> wrote in news:iKb2m.234350
[email protected]:
> Andrew Barss wrote:
>> J. Clarke <[email protected]> wrote:
>> : dusty wrote:
>> :> This is what you get with AT&T high speed $19.95 high speed service
>> :> Latest from www.Speedtest .net
>> :> Ping: 108 ms
>> :> Download 0.19 Mb/s
>> :> Upload 0.32 Mb/s
>>
>> : If your upload is faster than your download something is wrong.
>>
>> Those measured speeds are strange.
>>
>> Try another speed test, like http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
>>
> If that doesn't work, you need a line quality check.
> Those numbers are just wrong.
>
Here it is
http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
download 191 kbps
upload 320 kbps
I've had a whole bunch of line quality checks and all they
can say is i'm to far from the node
Doug Winterburn <[email protected]> wrote in news:_Zb2m.3$CI1.2
@newsfe14.iad:
> http://test.lvcm.com/
http://test.lvcm.com/
download 191 kbps
upload 318 kbps
I've had a whole bunch of line quality checks/replacements/rewirings/etc
and all they
can say is i'm to far from the node
>>
>
> Which one has the lower pricing?
>
> AT&T: $19.95/ month, free home install
> Comcast: $42.99 /month, $50 installation
Which internet provider was given huge tax breaks from federal government
and state governments to put in high speed optical and then pocketed the
money.
And which internet provider sues for unfair competition when a cheaper
start up company tries to do it better?
ALL OF THEM.
Nova <[email protected]> wrote in news:5dU2m.2008$9l4.1290
@nwrddc01.gnilink.net:
> Verizon has had FiOS on my street for over a year but, as of yet, they
> can't offer TV service in the city. As soon as they do I'll be
> switching my TV, phone and internet over to that.
>
A weekly phone call reminding them of that, and perhaps a call to the
city fathers, may speed that moment.
Good luck, Jack!
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
dusty wrote:
> FrozenNorth <[email protected]> wrote in news:iKb2m.234350
> [email protected]:
>
>> Andrew Barss wrote:
>>> J. Clarke <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> : dusty wrote:
>>> :> This is what you get with AT&T high speed $19.95 high speed service
>>> :> Latest from www.Speedtest .net
>>> :> Ping: 108 ms
>>> :> Download 0.19 Mb/s
>>> :> Upload 0.32 Mb/s
>>>
>>> : If your upload is faster than your download something is wrong.
>>>
>>> Those measured speeds are strange.
>>>
>>> Try another speed test, like http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
>>>
>> If that doesn't work, you need a line quality check.
>> Those numbers are just wrong.
>>
> Here it is
> http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
> download 191 kbps
> upload 320 kbps
>
> I've had a whole bunch of line quality checks and all they
> can say is i'm to far from the node
I meant actually call somebody out to you house and check it, if those
are the best you can get, they shouldn't have sold you the service.
--
Froz...
Andrew Barss wrote:
> J. Clarke <[email protected]> wrote:
> : dusty wrote:
> :> This is what you get with AT&T high speed $19.95 high speed service
> :> Latest from www.Speedtest .net
> :> Ping: 108 ms
> :> Download 0.19 Mb/s
> :> Upload 0.32 Mb/s
>
> : If your upload is faster than your download something is wrong.
>
> Those measured speeds are strange.
>
> Try another speed test, like http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
>
> -- Andy Barss
>
...or http://test.lvcm.com/
dusty wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>>
>> Please note that on or around July 15, 2009, AT&T will no longer be
>> offering access to the Usenet Netnews service. If you wish to
>> continue reading Usenet newsgroups, access is available through
>> third-party vendors.
>>
>> http://support.att.net/usenet
>>
>>
>> Distribution: AT&T SouthEast Newsgroups Servers
>>
>
> And the AT&T thieves are not giving us a lower price for less service.
> I think AT&T should be sued for false advertising their $19.95 high
> speed internet service is NOT fast. Average speeds here in STL are
> 525 minutes to
> down load a move 44 minutes to download a video clip 15 or more
> minutes to
> download a 1 minute Youtube
> This is what you get with AT&T high speed $19.95 high speed service
> Latest from www.Speedtest .net
> Ping: 108 ms
> Download 0.19 Mb/s
> Upload 0.32 Mb/s
If your upload is faster than your download something is wrong.
J. Clarke <[email protected]> wrote:
: dusty wrote:
:> This is what you get with AT&T high speed $19.95 high speed service
:> Latest from www.Speedtest .net
:> Ping: 108 ms
:> Download 0.19 Mb/s
:> Upload 0.32 Mb/s
: If your upload is faster than your download something is wrong.
Those measured speeds are strange.
Try another speed test, like http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
-- Andy Barss
dusty wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>>
>> Please note that on or around July 15, 2009, AT&T will no longer be
>> offering access to the Usenet Netnews service. If you wish to
>> continue reading Usenet newsgroups, access is available through
>> third-party vendors.
>>
>> http://support.att.net/usenet
>>
>>
>> Distribution: AT&T SouthEast Newsgroups Servers
>>
>
> And the AT&T thieves are not giving us a lower price for less service.
> I think AT&T should be sued for false advertising their $19.95 high
> speed internet service is NOT fast. Average speeds here in STL are
> 525 minutes to
> down load a move 44 minutes to download a video clip 15 or more
> minutes to
> download a 1 minute Youtube
> This is what you get with AT&T high speed $19.95 high speed service
> Latest from www.Speedtest .net
> Ping: 108 ms
> Download 0.19 Mb/s
> Upload 0.32 Mb/s
If you're using a router, shut down your whole system, all of it,
everything, bring up the DSL modem, then the router, then any servers, then
the machine you work with, and see if that fixes the problem.
> AT&T rated Number 27 in Global Broadband speed but rated # 1 in the
> world
> for highest pricing
Lee Michaels wrote:
> "J. Clarke" wrote
>>
>> If you're using a router, shut down your whole system, all of it,
>> everything, bring up the DSL modem, then the router, then any
>> servers, then
>> the machine you work with, and see if that fixes the problem.
>>
>
> I just can't help myself.
>
> Should he take the router out of the router table first??
>
> Groannnn..., well..., I tried to make it woodworking related...
Gosh, NO. Shut the router off _first_, _then_ take it out of the table,
unless you don't like having all your fingers.
dusty wrote:
>> Gosh, NO. Shut the router off _first_, _then_ take it out of the
>> table, unless you don't like having all your fingers.
>>
>
> Don't make me CRINGE my brother in law did that last month and had to
> have a couple of fingers sewn back on ------ CRINGE!!!!
>
> dont touch anything till that blade stops.
Ack! I hope he makes a full recovery.
On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:56:44 GMT, dusty <[email protected]> wrote:
...
>AT&T rated Number 27 in Global Broadband speed but rated # 1 in the
>world
>for highest pricing
>
>
Which one has the lower pricing?
AT&T: $19.95/ month, free home install
Comcast: $42.99 /month, $50 installation
Andrew Barss wrote:
> J. Clarke <[email protected]> wrote:
> : dusty wrote:
> :> This is what you get with AT&T high speed $19.95 high speed service
> :> Latest from www.Speedtest .net
> :> Ping: 108 ms
> :> Download 0.19 Mb/s
> :> Upload 0.32 Mb/s
>
> : If your upload is faster than your download something is wrong.
>
> Those measured speeds are strange.
>
> Try another speed test, like http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
>
If that doesn't work, you need a line quality check.
Those numbers are just wrong.
--
Froz...