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Denise Morgan

23/08/2015 11:44 AM

Opinions on T1 11 mounted horizontally under covered porch

I would like to install T1 11 horizontally to match my homes vinyl siding l=
ook. I have read that when mounted vertically the channels wick water. Ha=
s anyone had experience with it mounted horizontally under a metal roof - i=
.e. free from direct rain and covered from dew. I live in a humid climate. =
Thanks for any input


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Sonny

in reply to Denise Morgan on 23/08/2015 11:44 AM

23/08/2015 6:59 PM

On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 8:18:42 PM UTC-5, woodchucker wrote:

> I have a problem with it at the bottom of T1 when set correctly.
> It soaks up water and rots. My shed needs a new bottom.
> I've been putting it off for 2 years, thinking of putting a 45 degree=20
> joint in and slipping a new piece in below the.
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> So do I think it will wick.. YES. Absolutely.
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> --=20
> Jeff

Jeff, when you install your bottom pieces, bevel (30 degrees is fine) the b=
ottom edge (bevel on the backside), so that the sharp lip is exterior side.=
Prime and paint the lower 10" of the backside, also, before installing. =
This will help prevent wicking up the backside (otherwise raw wood). The=
sharp bevel front bottom edge will help prevent wicking back, along an oth=
erwise flat bottom.

Sonny

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woodchucker

in reply to Denise Morgan on 23/08/2015 11:44 AM

24/08/2015 4:54 PM

On 8/23/2015 9:59 PM, Sonny wrote:
> On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 8:18:42 PM UTC-5, woodchucker wrote:
>
>> I have a problem with it at the bottom of T1 when set correctly.
>> It soaks up water and rots. My shed needs a new bottom.
>> I've been putting it off for 2 years, thinking of putting a 45 degree
>> joint in and slipping a new piece in below the.
>>
>> So do I think it will wick.. YES. Absolutely.
>>
>> --
>> Jeff
>
> Jeff, when you install your bottom pieces, bevel (30 degrees is fine) the bottom edge (bevel on the backside), so that the sharp lip is exterior side. Prime and paint the lower 10" of the backside, also, before installing. This will help prevent wicking up the backside (otherwise raw wood). The sharp bevel front bottom edge will help prevent wicking back, along an otherwise flat bottom.
>
> Sonny
>

Thanks, I'll do that.

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Jeff

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Sonny

in reply to Denise Morgan on 23/08/2015 11:44 AM

23/08/2015 12:36 PM

On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 1:44:40 PM UTC-5, Denise Morgan wrote:
> I would like to install T1 11 horizontally to match my homes vinyl siding=
look. I have read that when mounted vertically the channels wick water. =
Has anyone had experience with it mounted horizontally under a metal roof -=
i.e. free from direct rain and covered from dew. I live in a humid climate=
. Thanks for any input

It might depend on which T1-11 you use, 4", 8", 12", as to how well it look=
s horizontally. *Matching the vinyl siding.... I suppose you'll use the 4"=
. Prime (pre-paint) a few sheets and temporarily install them, see how it =
looks, before committing to permanent installation.

I suppose you'll install trim around the edges. Caulk the groove holes, a=
long the trim, or spiders and other bugs will take up residence in the "hol=
es". You might want to cram a plug of 3/8" or 1/2" backer rod, into the h=
ole, before caulking, also. =20
http://www.lowes.com/ProductDisplay?partNumber=3D96255-1410-C21&langId=3D-1=
&storeId=3D10151&productId=3D3465630&catalogId=3D10051&cmRelshp=3Drel&rel=
=3Dnofollow&cId=3DPDIO1

Sonny

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woodchucker

in reply to Denise Morgan on 23/08/2015 11:44 AM

23/08/2015 9:18 PM

On 8/23/2015 2:44 PM, Denise Morgan wrote:
> I would like to install T1 11 horizontally to match my homes vinyl siding look. I have read that when mounted vertically the channels wick water. Has anyone had experience with it mounted horizontally under a metal roof - i.e. free from direct rain and covered from dew. I live in a humid climate. Thanks for any input
>
I have a problem with it at the bottom of T1 when set correctly.
It soaks up water and rots. My shed needs a new bottom.
I've been putting it off for 2 years, thinking of putting a 45 degree
joint in and slipping a new piece in below the.

So do I think it will wick.. YES. Absolutely.

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Jeff

JG

"John Grossbohlin"

in reply to Denise Morgan on 23/08/2015 11:44 AM

24/08/2015 3:43 PM

"Denise Morgan" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>I would like to install T1 11 horizontally to match my homes vinyl siding
>look. I have read that when mounted vertically the channels wick water.
>Has anyone had experience >with it mounted horizontally under a metal
>roof - i.e. free from direct rain and covered from dew. I live in a humid
>climate. Thanks for any input

From what I've seen T111 isn't a permanent siding solution... Even with
maintenance it's got problems in a decade or so around here. An entire condo
project near me was resided at about year 5 because of water damage (some of
which may have been due to how it was applied... improper/missing flashing,
etc.).

Another concern could be that the plys would not be oriented correctly for
horizontal application, i.e., the ply strength is designed for vertical
application. I have no idea what odd things really could develop out of the
non-design application... but my imagination suggests it may wrinkle unless
it was nailed with a close pattern. I guess you can tell us in a few years
if you go through with this!

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to Denise Morgan on 23/08/2015 11:44 AM

23/08/2015 10:48 PM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
>
> On 8/23/2015 2:44 PM, Denise Morgan wrote:
> > I would like to install T1 11 horizontally to match my homes vinyl siding look. I have read that when mounted vertically the channels wick water. Has anyone had experience with it mounted horizontally under a metal roof - i.e. free from direct rain and covered from dew. I live in a humid climate. Thanks for any input
> >
> I have a problem with it at the bottom of T1 when set correctly.
> It soaks up water and rots. My shed needs a new bottom.
> I've been putting it off for 2 years, thinking of putting a 45 degree
> joint in and slipping a new piece in below the.
>
> So do I think it will wick.. YES. Absolutely.

Just a suggestion, but if the framing is OK (if it's not pressure
treated then it's probably not OK) then cut out the bottom 8 inches or
so and put in a PVC board with a z-flashing above.

Be sure to put some blocking at the level of the seam.

Cn

"ChairMan"

in reply to Denise Morgan on 23/08/2015 11:44 AM

24/08/2015 12:19 AM

woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 8/23/2015 2:44 PM, Denise Morgan wrote:
>> I would like to install T1 11 horizontally to match my
>> homes vinyl
>> siding look. I have read that when mounted vertically
>> the channels
>> wick water. Has anyone had experience with it mounted
>> horizontally
>> under a metal roof - i.e. free from direct rain and
>> covered from
>> dew. I live in a humid climate. Thanks for any input
> I have a problem with it at the bottom of T1 when set
> correctly.
> It soaks up water and rots. My shed needs a new bottom.
> I've been putting it off for 2 years, thinking of putting
> a 45 degree
> joint in and slipping a new piece in below the.
>
> So do I think it will wick.. YES. Absolutely.

I have the same situation, plus the rest is delaminating.
I'd like to replace it with barn/roof steel or if they make
a PT T1-11.
I don't ever want to use regular T1 11 again in my life

jj

"jloomis"

in reply to Denise Morgan on 23/08/2015 11:44 AM

23/08/2015 1:23 PM

It is designed to be installed vertically.
The laminate is seen in the routed groove.
I would run it the way it was intended.

I could see it wicking water when moist, and being installed in that
direction.
john

"Denise Morgan" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

I would like to install T1 11 horizontally to match my homes vinyl siding
look. I have read that when mounted vertically the channels wick water.
Has anyone had experience with it mounted horizontally under a metal roof -
i.e. free from direct rain and covered from dew. I live in a humid climate.
Thanks for any input

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to Denise Morgan on 23/08/2015 11:44 AM

23/08/2015 5:00 PM

On 8/23/15 1:44 PM, Denise Morgan wrote:
> I would like to install T1 11 horizontally to match my homes vinyl
> siding look. I have read that when mounted vertically the channels
> wick water. Has anyone had experience with it mounted horizontally
> under a metal roof - i.e. free from direct rain and covered from
> dew. I live in a humid climate. Thanks for any input
>

It's amazing how wet things get when they're in a place we think they
won't get wet. :-)
You have to really paint those channels a few times with a great
exterior paint in order for them to not rot out when the stuff is
installed vertically/properly. I couldn't see it not rotting after
several years when installed horizontally, especially in the lower
sections where it will get wet from blown in rain.

If you do decide to go for it, I'd recommend LP SmartSide.
http://lpsmartside.com/products/panel
It's pre-primed with a very thick, long lasting, anti-fungal application
of some kind.
I used it on my Sharn and I didn't paint it for probably nine months and
it looked like the day I bought it when I did get around to painting it.


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Jack

in reply to Denise Morgan on 23/08/2015 11:44 AM

02/09/2015 9:49 AM

On 8/24/2015 1:19 AM, ChairMan wrote:

> I have the same situation, plus the rest is delaminating.
> I'd like to replace it with barn/roof steel or if they make
> a PT T1-11.
> I don't ever want to use regular T1 11 again in my life

T1-11 should never come in contact with the ground. I put it on my shed
25 years ago and it is as good as new. Ground contact requires PT,
designed for ground contact, or preferably, concrete or other
non-organic, non-rusting material.

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