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"Toller"

28/08/2005 2:40 PM

Question about air dried oak

I have seen some 1 year old air dried oak, 3" thick, for sale. Presumably
it is not ready to use; but is it's current condition any indication of how
it will turn out; or is it too early to say?
In Western NY how long would you think it would have to dry? Is simply
storing it indoors enough after a year, or does it still have to be
stickered and separated (or whatever you do when air drying wood; obviously
I don't know anything about it).
Thanks.


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m

in reply to "Toller" on 28/08/2005 2:40 PM

28/08/2005 8:03 AM

Where I used to live we used a rule of thumb for air drying timber,
properly stacked with spacers and reasonable air flow, of one year per
inch thickness.

GG

"George"

in reply to "Toller" on 28/08/2005 2:40 PM

28/08/2005 12:10 PM


"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I have seen some 1 year old air dried oak, 3" thick, for sale. Presumably
> it is not ready to use; but is it's current condition any indication of
> how
> it will turn out; or is it too early to say?
> In Western NY how long would you think it would have to dry? Is simply
> storing it indoors enough after a year, or does it still have to be
> stickered and separated (or whatever you do when air drying wood;
> obviously
> I don't know anything about it).
> Thanks.
>
>

Depends on the grade and what you want to use it for. If it has been
_indoors_ and stickered, you should see most of what you want by now. Air
drying is better for prevention of honeycomb, in my experience. Doggone
kiln operators tend to push it a bit.

Cut for legs and such, with a winter in a heated environment should give you
stability by March.

Oh yes http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/ and a search on air drying will turn up
all kinds of good information, none of which includes a "year per inch" with
no further conditions.

AD

Andy Dingley

in reply to "Toller" on 28/08/2005 2:40 PM

29/08/2005 11:30 AM

On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 15:01:11 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>And a follow-up question. If the wood is now 3", can it be re-sawed to say,
>1" now to dry faster or is it better to let it dry as is?

Depends on how it was sawn. If it's oak, then it might be quarter sawn
(for the figure) and this will dry quite stably as 1" and give a useful
board.

If it's flat-sawn, then it will cup slightly. I'd disagree with Dave W
here (certainly for my local oaks) and I don't find that it's prone to
twist, but it always has the "rings straightening" effect. Because of
this, the most efficient thickness to saw to is 2". This allows you to
resaw, plane off the cupping and still get two good boards out of it.
You're removing the "cupping losses" from two faces. If however you saw
to 1" and dry it, then you have to take this cupping loss from four
faces. 2" drying will give you two 3/4" boards, 1" drying will only
give you 1/2" boards.

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "Toller" on 28/08/2005 2:40 PM

28/08/2005 3:01 PM


"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I have seen some 1 year old air dried oak, 3" thick, for sale. Presumably
> it is not ready to use; but is it's current condition any indication of
> how
> it will turn out; or is it too early to say?


And a follow-up question. If the wood is now 3", can it be re-sawed to say,
1" now to dry faster or is it better to let it dry as is?

DW

"Dave W"

in reply to "Toller" on 28/08/2005 2:40 PM

28/08/2005 11:42 AM

Oak is famous for twisting and othwise misbehaving when drying. If you are
lucky, you can resaw, take advantage of reduced drying time and still get
some good stock out of it. Sticking, out of the sun, with protection from
rain etc. will help reduce the problems.


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