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Casper

06/02/2009 10:27 PM

Orange Oil as a Finish?

Orange oil has become popular for cleaning and preserving furniture
and many things wood. I have seen it listed as being usable on even
bare wood. Can it be used as an oil finish? Has anyone used it?
`Casper


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Casper

in reply to Casper on 06/02/2009 10:27 PM

16/02/2009 12:32 AM

>I suspect that the OP hasn't actually got much Limonene though - as you
>say, used as a fragrance with cheaper oils.
>Stuart

Exactly. Just too much of that Orange Oil wood cleaner/preserver.
Seems to work fairly well on a couple of pieces I tested it on but
have not tried it on bare wood. Thought since there is so much of it
in the house it was worth looking into as a finish oil.
`Casper

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"Leon"

in reply to Casper on 06/02/2009 10:27 PM

07/02/2009 9:02 AM


"Casper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >Yes you can, you can use most anything for a finish. The question you
> >need
>>to ask yourself is what do you wan the finish to do. Orange oil will not
>>add much protection so much as it will make the surface look a bit more
>>shiny.
>>Leon
>
> I want to bring out the grain of some pearwood and lightly protect it.
> I have a lot of orange oil (lots of boxed household gifts) and
> considered orange oil and beeswax (or Renaissance) as a finish.
>
> I turned a pearwood Nostpinne. For those unfamiliar, a stick for
> turning yarn into balls. So it can't be sticky but it doesn't need an
> extremely protective finish. Just something light that can be
> reapplied if necessary to keep it smooth.
>
> `Casper

Just about any oil can help bring out the grain and the wax help to keep it
feeling smooth.

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Stuart

in reply to Casper on 06/02/2009 10:27 PM

14/02/2009 10:44 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
-MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
> However, true lemon oil or orange oil is a real thing, called Limonene.
> It's what they squeeze out of the rind, distill, and sell as fragrance
> for all those orange cleaners you see everywhere.

Limonene is not just a fragrance it is a very useful solvent and cleaner
used for all sorts of things. It has, for example, largely displaced the
use of CFCs for cleaning printed circuit boards.

See Wikipedia and http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/motm/limonene/limoneneh.htm

Do also check out:
http://www.osha.gov/dts/chemicalsampling/data/CH_249450.html

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Stuart

in reply to Casper on 06/02/2009 10:27 PM

16/02/2009 12:23 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
-MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:

> I didn't say it was just a fragrance.
> But people associate citrus scent with clean. ie: "lemony fresh"
> I would venture to guess that at least 90 percent of its use is as a
> flagrance for other, much cheaper oils.

I wouldn't like to argue the point on that although my gut feeling is that
industrial usage would now outweigh its use as a perfume.

I hope you didn't take my comment personally BTW, it wasn't meant like
that, I was just trying to inform. I think anyone using it as a wood
finish, should check up the MSDS before use for their own safety and to
consider any hazards that might arise relating to the use of the finished
product.

I suspect that the OP hasn't actually got much Limonene though - as you
say, used as a fragrance with cheaper oils.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to Casper on 06/02/2009 10:27 PM

07/02/2009 7:33 AM


"Casper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Orange oil has become popular for cleaning and preserving furniture
> and many things wood. I have seen it listed as being usable on even
> bare wood. Can it be used as an oil finish? Has anyone used it?
> `Casper

Yes you can, you can use most anything for a finish. The question you need
to ask yourself is what do you wan the finish to do. Orange oil will not
add much protection so much as it will make the surface look a bit more
shiny.

Ra

"Roger amd Missy Behnke"

in reply to Casper on 06/02/2009 10:27 PM

08/02/2009 12:18 PM

I remember being told that orange oil and lemon oil are mineral oil with
color and scent added. The oil doesn't actually come from the fruit.

Mineral oil can be used on cutting boards and other kitchen utensils to give
them a little protection from water, but it has to be reapplied often.


"Casper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Orange oil has become popular for cleaning and preserving furniture
> and many things wood. I have seen it listed as being usable on even
> bare wood. Can it be used as an oil finish? Has anyone used it?
> `Casper

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to Casper on 06/02/2009 10:27 PM

08/02/2009 11:47 AM

Roger amd Missy Behnke wrote:
> I remember being told that orange oil and lemon oil are mineral oil with
> color and scent added. The oil doesn't actually come from the fruit.
>

That's what I always heard, as well.

However, true lemon oil or orange oil is a real thing, called Limonene.
It's what they squeeze out of the rind, distill, and sell as fragrance
for all those orange cleaners you see everywhere.

I'm guessing there are no FDA or FTC standards for what can be called
orange oil based on a percentage content. I'm also guessing that 100
percent orange oil would probably run $50 a quart, retail. That
explains why you most often see it cut with a majority of mineral oil.
As far as I can tell from my research, orange oil and mineral oil act
the same, for all intents and purposes, besides that lovely smell.


--

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-MIKE-

in reply to Casper on 06/02/2009 10:27 PM

14/02/2009 6:52 PM

Stuart wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
>> However, true lemon oil or orange oil is a real thing, called Limonene.
>> It's what they squeeze out of the rind, distill, and sell as fragrance
>> for all those orange cleaners you see everywhere.
>
> Limonene is not just a fragrance it is a very useful solvent and cleaner
> used for all sorts of things. It has, for example, largely displaced the
> use of CFCs for cleaning printed circuit boards.
>

I didn't say it was just a fragrance.
But people associate citrus scent with clean. ie: "lemony fresh"
I would venture to guess that at least 90 percent of its use is as a
flagrance for other, much cheaper oils.



--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

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Steve Turner

in reply to Casper on 06/02/2009 10:27 PM

06/02/2009 10:51 PM

Casper wrote:
> Orange oil has become popular for cleaning and preserving furniture
> and many things wood. I have seen it listed as being usable on even
> bare wood. Can it be used as an oil finish? Has anyone used it?
> `Casper

I don't think it "cures" like linseed or tung oil. My guess is it's not
going to be durable and will need to be periodically refreshed.

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"Bob Meyer"

in reply to Casper on 06/02/2009 10:27 PM

08/02/2009 7:33 AM

One word.......Shellac
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Casper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> >Yes you can, you can use most anything for a finish. The question you
>> >need
>>>to ask yourself is what do you wan the finish to do. Orange oil will not
>>>add much protection so much as it will make the surface look a bit more
>>>shiny.
>>>Leon
>>
>> I want to bring out the grain of some pearwood and lightly protect it.
>> I have a lot of orange oil (lots of boxed household gifts) and
>> considered orange oil and beeswax (or Renaissance) as a finish.
>>
>> I turned a pearwood Nostpinne. For those unfamiliar, a stick for
>> turning yarn into balls. So it can't be sticky but it doesn't need an
>> extremely protective finish. Just something light that can be
>> reapplied if necessary to keep it smooth.
>>
>> `Casper
>
> Just about any oil can help bring out the grain and the wax help to keep
> it feeling smooth.
>

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Casper

in reply to Casper on 06/02/2009 10:27 PM

07/02/2009 9:30 AM

>Yes you can, you can use most anything for a finish. The question you need
>to ask yourself is what do you wan the finish to do. Orange oil will not
>add much protection so much as it will make the surface look a bit more
>shiny.
>Leon

I want to bring out the grain of some pearwood and lightly protect it.
I have a lot of orange oil (lots of boxed household gifts) and
considered orange oil and beeswax (or Renaissance) as a finish.

I turned a pearwood Nostpinne. For those unfamiliar, a stick for
turning yarn into balls. So it can't be sticky but it doesn't need an
extremely protective finish. Just something light that can be
reapplied if necessary to keep it smooth.

`Casper


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