On 19 Feb 2005 21:44:06 -0500, [email protected] (DoN. Nichols)
wrote:
> The iris is only part of it. Did you bother to look at his
>latest set of images of that one item from many views?
Sorry, no I hadn't - I'd only seen the original close-up.
Nice to see a shutter with the original pneumatic remote release.
I just wanted to assure you that item 274 is indeed a paint striper as
many have indicated. I have one that I bought long ago for the
exorbitant price of $4.79. I still have the instructions. It is
titled the Master Double and Single Line Paint Striper Model No. 1100
and was manufactured by the Embee Corporation of Springfield, OH. You
are missing several of the brass wheels and spacers that allow
different line widths and double lines.
I just wanted to assure you that item 274 is indeed a paint striper as
many have indicated. I have one that I bought long ago for the
exorbitant price of $4.79. I still have the instructions. It is
titled the Master Double and Single Line Paint Striper Model No. 1100
and was manufactured by the Embee Corporation of Springfield, OH. You
are missing several of the brass wheels and spacers that allow
different line widths and double lines.
In article <[email protected]>,
Jeff Wisnia <[email protected]> wrote:
>Rich Grise wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:21:21 -0600, DanG wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I am sure others will point out that the Roman numeral L stands
>>>for 50
>>>XL would give 40
>>>XLIX would give 49
>>>
>>>But inquiring minds would like to know if
>>>IL would work?
>>
>>
>> There are those who say that it's bad form to subtract anything
>> but the next lower "denomination" from a given symbol, i.e.,
>> XL, 40 plus IX, 9, gives 49. But you can't do VL for 45 or IL for
>> 49. I think XC works for 90, but not IC for 99 or VC for 95.
>
>I've always wanted to see a step by step example of how a long division
>problem with a couple of "not too easy" numbers is solved in the Roman
>numeral system. Can someone show me/us one?
*First* you figure out how to do multiplication. <grin>
(note: multiplying by *five* or *ten* is easy -- all you do is 'change the
letters'; multiplying by anything else is *messy*.
e.g., what's "IV * XL"?)
Division is done by 'multiply and subtract'. and 'summing' the various
multiplicands that you end up using..
Note: some of this stuff was *easier* with 'early Roman' numbering -- which
did *not* have the concept of the 'prefixed' symbol for a 'negative'. The
_position_ of a symbol simply *DID*NOT*MATTER*. IIIXVLCC meant exactly
the same thing as CCLXVII. this made for "simplified" addition -- you
could just concatenate the two numbers. Or, if feeling fancy, sort the
symbols by 'magnitude', and replace 'excess' occurrences of any particular
symbol with a single occurrence of a larger-magnitude symbol. repeat until
no further reductions were possible. Example:
IIII * XXXX = XXXX + XXXX + XXXX + XXXX => XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX => LLLX => CLX
Division is _relatively_ straightforward in 'early' numbering. It is fairly
simple to find the largest 'power of ten' (or 5 times a power of 10) of the
divisor that is smaller than the dividend. This is, after all, just a
'shift the characters', operation. So, you subtract that value. and repeat
as needed. Note: you'll never have to subtract the same value more than 4
times, so the process is _not_ all that onerous.
With "late" Roman numerals, I strongly suspect that division was accomplished
by first 're-writing' in 'old style', doing the division, and 'reducing' the
result.
Roy Dennis:
> > Is Rube Goldberg an American Heath Robinson?
Andy Dingley:
> A very poor Heath Robinson.
Whack! Slash! Bite! Knock it off, eh? They were both very good
at what they did, and are excellent analogies for each other.
> A better British analogue to Rube Goldberg might be Roland Emmett.
That's Rowland Emett -- who was a fine Rowland Emett, but no Rube Goldberg.
--
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In article <[email protected]>, Dennis Arenson
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Object #272 is a lock device for casement sliding windows. Just
> tighten the scew on the inside rail and the window can't be slid open
> even if the latch is jimmied. I've used them often when leaving the
> house for vacation.
I agree with you on that.
275 is a hand-held flinger for clay pigeons (skeet). Can't remember
what the proper name is... Trap?
276 is a camera aperture.
277 is a t-nut
269 is a propeller, end on.
--
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sometimes orange water gibbon bucket and plastic." -- Mr. Burrows
On 17 Feb 2005 13:36:23 EST, Mark and Kim Smith
<[email protected]> wrote:
>R.H. wrote:
>
>>Just posted some new photos:
>>
>>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>
> From rec.woodworking
>
>#272: window stop
>#273: Well, it will hold a rod. Maybe a centering jig?
>#274: Pinstriping tool.
Yep. for sure. I used to use one of these years ago for pistriping
lucite sght gauges with lacquer paint.
.
>#275: dunno.
>#276: camera shutter
>#277: "T" nut
Gary Dyrkacz
[email protected]
Radio Control Aircraft/Paintball Physics/Paintball for 40+
http://home.attbi.com/~dyrgcmn/
I thought 273 was a nut cracker at first but the tip of the bolt is flat.
Will this still work?
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"Peter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Just posted some new photos:
>>
>> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>
> 272. Al window stop or lock
> 273.Nut cracker
> 274. line maker using paint
> 275. Looks painful?
> 276. Iris in oil or gas fired furnace to adjust flame
> 277. Nutlock for funiture assembly
>
"Ray V" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I thought 273 was a nut cracker at first but the tip of the bolt is flat.
> Will this still work?
>
The tip of the bolt is actually a little bit convex, and the bolt is not
very long so I don't think it's a nutcracker.
Is Rube Goldberg an American Heath Robinson?
http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/walker/exhibitions/heathrobinson/
--
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"Rich Grise" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 09:31:19 +0000, R.H. wrote:
>
> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> Does anyone know why #275 has all that Rube Goldberg clockwork
> and stuff? Why is it so complicated? (Yes, I know what it is,
> that's been answered a lot. :-) )
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
>
>
R.H. wrote:
> Just posted some new photos:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
272 looks like a device that one could screw to hold a window closed, I
remember owning or using one similar to that (but covered in a cream
colored paint instead of shiny like that one)
274 looks like its designed to spray something (insect spray? paint? dont know)
276 looks like a shutter (to an old camera? film equipment? I dont know)
277 looks like cutting blades from something like a garbage disposal or
something.
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Just posted some new photos:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
272. Al window stop or lock
273.Nut cracker
274. line maker using paint
275. Looks painful?
276. Iris in oil or gas fired furnace to adjust flame
277. Nutlock for funiture assembly
Roy Dennis schrieb:
> Is Rube Goldberg an American Heath Robinson?
Yes.
Cheers
Michael
--
It's silly talking about how many years we will have to spend
in the jungles of Vietnam when we could pave the whole country
and put parking stripes on it and still be home by Christmas.
-- Ronald Reagan, October 10, 1965
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 19:34:57 -0000, "Roy Dennis"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Is Rube Goldberg an American Heath Robinson?
A very poor Heath Robinson.
Heath Robinson made witty social comment by drawing cartoons.
Sometimes (but not always) these cartoons involved fanciful machines.
He was equally capable of finding this humour in existing machines,
such as the automatic toaster, or even in such contemporary fashions
as new tastes in Modernist carpets or flats. The key was the humour
and the machine was always secondary to that. Often the machine was
fundamentally impossible (rather than merely ludicrously impractical)
- lifting the dome of St Pauls with a platoon and a block and tackle,
the dowager's pekingese not merely breaking cocktail ice off an
iceberg, but winching it ashore with a treadmill.
Rube Goldberg was an inventor who drew his creations. The design was
the core, not the resultant drawing. He has more in common with
Alexander Weyger than Robinson, and a similar approach to mechanicaal
engineering. It's important to Goldberg that the machines work, or at
least make some attempt to, and this often gives rise to clumsy
illustrations with voluminous footnotes.
A better British analogue to Rube Goldberg might be Roland Emmett.
"DoN. Nichols" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Just posted some new photos:
> >
> >http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> O.K. Again -- I'm answering from rec.crafts.metalworking.
>
> 272) Hanging clip for whiteboard or the like, fits aluminum rails around
room.
>
> 273) Forked tail (metal) lathe dog.
>
> 274) Rolling paint line applicator.
>
> 275) Hand clay pigeon flinger for trap or skeet shooting.
>
> 276) Iris diaphragm for camera or for (perhaps) microscope light source
> Normally, it would be mounted inside the lens, for a camera, but
> there is not enough of the surround to make this clear. With
> the rust visible, I suspect the light source instead.
>
> 277) "Tee nut" (Brand name) for puting machine threads in wood. It
> is driven into a hole from the far side, and the spikes prevent
> rotation.
All correct except for the first, though I guess it could be used for that.
> No, unfortunately I can't find one quite like that and I must admit that
I'm
> only speaking from what I've heard others call them. Lathe dogs generally
> have a tab that is either bent to go into a slot on a faceplate or
straight
> to be driven by a bolt mounted on the faceplate. I've always heard the
kind
> with a fork like the one pictured called grinder or grinding dogs but I
> don't know why. I can find examples of grinding dogs with 2 forks on them
> but I must plead ignorance on the differences.
>
> > "Found in my late Father-in-laws' estate. He had been an engineer at
Pratt
> > &
> > Whitney Aircraft in Hartford, but this was from his personal shop. He
was
> > a
> > tinkerer extraordinaire.
> >
> > Seems to be an oiler or something, with the small rolling notched wheel
> > dispensing whatever was in the vial (looks like a striking wheel from a
> > Zippo, but not used that way here).
> >
> > The round head screw on the side is for attaching to something that
would
> > go through the hole, which does not have a passage into the nozzle.
>
> That fits with the pinstriper theory. The screw would be to clamp an
> adjustable edge guide that you can use to follow an existing stripe or a
> contour on the body of a car. Sort of like using a rip fence on a
circular
> saw. Here's a modern version:
>
>
<http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=1916&itemT
ype=PRODUCT&iMainCat=503&iSubCat=536&iProductID=1916&itemType=PRODUCT&RS=1&k
eyword=beugler>
>
Thanks for the link and the other info.
"Matthew Russotto" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Just posted some new photos:
> >
> >http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> 272: Stops something from sliding on rails. You put this thing on
> the rail, move it to where you want it to stop, and tighten the set
> screw. Probably a window as it's not big enough for a door.
Yes, for a window.
>
> 273: Presumably the screw is meant to center something.. no idea what.
>
> 274: Pesticide bottle?
As stated previously, still researching these two.
> 275: Given the name "Western Cartridge", it might be a tool for
> sighting-in rifles or some such thing.
>
Nope
> 276: Camera aperture
>
> 277: Device for putting metal threads in a wooden block which will be
> turned while in use. You drill the hole in the block, then hammer
> this thing in. A pepper shaker of mine has a similar device inside.
Doesn't
> work too well because the prongs don't grip well.
These last two are correct.
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 23:51:47 -0000, [email protected] (Mark Brader) wrote:
>Whack! Slash! Bite! Knock it off, eh? They were both very good
>at what they did, and are excellent analogies for each other.
Rube Goldberg's cartoons had _explanations_ attached to them. That's
about the worst thing you can do to any form of graphic art. Maybe the
machines are funny, but he was a lousy cartoonist.
>> A better British analogue to Rube Goldberg might be Roland Emmett.
>
>That's Rowland Emett
Roland, Rowland, Emmett or Emett - he spelled it with every possible
variation (or at least was cited in period with every variation).
Rich Grise wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:21:21 -0600, DanG wrote:
>
>
>>I am sure others will point out that the Roman numeral L stands
>>for 50
>>XL would give 40
>>XLIX would give 49
>>
>>But inquiring minds would like to know if
>>IL would work?
>
>
> There are those who say that it's bad form to subtract anything
> but the next lower "denomination" from a given symbol, i.e.,
> XL, 40 plus IX, 9, gives 49. But you can't do VL for 45 or IL for
> 49. I think XC works for 90, but not IC for 99 or VC for 95.
I've always wanted to see a step by step example of how a long division
problem with a couple of "not too easy" numbers is solved in the Roman
numeral system. Can someone show me/us one?
The ancient Hebrew numeral system is even simpler as only addition is
needed to determine the full value, there's no subtraction of lower
denominations located to the left of higher ones. If interested, see:
http://www.answers.com/topic/hebrew-numerals
Jeff
--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
"As long as there are final exams, there will be prayer in public
schools"
R.H. wrote:
> "Martin H. Eastburn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Jonathan Wilson wrote:
>>
>>
>>>R.H. wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Just posted some new photos:
>>>>
>>>>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>
>>272 window lock
>>273 lathe dog
>>274 pin striper - single size single line. Bottle is for the thick ink.
>>275 clay pigeon hand thrower - target practice with a shotgun or '45 :-)
>>276 Simple iris camera lens or a lamp shutter.
>>277 dry wall screw anchor
>>266 egg dipper / candle the egg for internal viewing or coloring eggs.
>>267 acorn nut - from sheet metal - lower quality than solid material.
>>268 bayonet
>>270 tin type or a true lantern slide for carbon arc viewing.
>
>
> These are all correct, though I'm still not sure about 266, I have to admit
> I hope it doesn't turn out to actually be an egg dipper, also I'm not sure
> 277 is for drywall.
>
>
277 isn't drywall - it is the backside of a wood piece that is bolted to something.
The Iris could be a shutter for a color spot or bright lamp - or carbon arc lamp to shut
down the volume of light to the subject. The real question is how tough is the item -
is it very thin - then camera - if reasonable thick then lamp or a projector (carbon lamp)
limiter. or on/off switch.
Martin
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@ home at Lion's Lair with our computer [email protected]
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Jonathan Wilson wrote:
> R.H. wrote:
>
>> Just posted some new photos:
>>
>> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> 272 looks like a device that one could screw to hold a window closed, I
> remember owning or using one similar to that (but covered in a cream
> colored paint instead of shiny like that one)
> 274 looks like its designed to spray something (insect spray? paint?
> dont know)
> 276 looks like a shutter (to an old camera? film equipment? I dont know)
> 277 looks like cutting blades from something like a garbage disposal or
> something.
272 window lock
273 lathe dog
274 pin striper - single size single line. Bottle is for the thick ink.
275 clay pigeon hand thrower - target practice with a shotgun or '45 :-)
276 Simple iris camera lens or a lamp shutter.
277 dry wall screw anchor
266 egg dipper / candle the egg for internal viewing or coloring eggs.
267 acorn nut - from sheet metal - lower quality than solid material.
268 bayonet
270 tin type or a true lantern slide for carbon arc viewing.
Martin
--
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@ home at Lion's Lair with our computer [email protected]
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NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder
In article <[email protected]>,
Andy Dingley <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 18 Feb 2005 23:00:17 -0500, [email protected] (DoN. Nichols)
>wrote:
>
>> O.K. A complete shutter assembly, missing only the screw-in
>>front and rear lens elements.
>
>Iris, not shutter. It's adjustable to control the aperture, not open &
>shut to control exposure. An iris like this can't be fully closed,
>for one thing.
The aperature control is at the bottom. The top is a shutter
control. I don't see the shutter itself; perhaps the aperture and the
shutter are the same device, the film being insensitive enough to make
the small opening not a concern.
In article <[email protected]>,
Julie <[email protected]> wrote:
>272: miniature robot splint
>
>273: guardian from "City on the Gates of Forever."
>
>274: home enima kit
>
>275: Captain Hook's first prosthetic, when he was "ensign funny-hand."
>
>276: Arnold Schwarzenegger's Terminator eyepiece
>
>277: Captain Hook's second prosthetic, when he was "liuetenant
>sprinkler-attachment"
Hehe, I like those answers. Website needs a section for "Answers"
and a section for "Better Answers." (:
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In article <[email protected]>,
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 273 - Lathe/Grinder dog
>
>Do you know of a web site that could verify this one?
http://tinyurl.com/6jjf8
Kinda small, but I suppose you could always call 'em and ask for a
bigger picture.
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In article <[email protected]>,
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>Just posted some new photos:
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
272. Hamburgler deterrent.
273. Eats lathe cats.
274. McGuyver's high-school bong kit.
275. My dad used to beat me with one after frisbee practice.
276. The Terminator's eye.
277. An anti-screw. Combine with a regular screw and the two instantly
destroy eachother.
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"Ron DeBlock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> 272. Some kind of clamp, but I don't know what for.
>
> 273. Lathe dog.
>
> 274. Pinstripe painter. Fill the bottle with paint, invert it, and roll
> paint on with the wheel. If not for paint, then some other liquid, maybe
> adhesive.
>
> 275. Thing for throwing clay pigeons when shooting skeet. (Save the
> poor, defenseless skeets! ;-)
>
> 276. Camera iris.
>
> 277. Tee-nut for wood or particle board.
All correct.
"Leo Lichtman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> 272--Sliding door or window stop
Correct
> 273--Lathe dog
> 274--Pin striping device
Still awaiting good links to verify these two
> 275--Hand launcher for trap shooting
> 276--Iris diaphragm for camera lens
> 277--Tee nut
All correct.
Gary Brady wrote:
> R.H. wrote:
>
>> Just posted some new photos:
>>
>> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
> 272. Window lock
> 273. Lathe dog
> 274. No clue
> 275. Wire tensioner
> 276. Camera aperture
> 277. Tee nut
>
On second look, I'll say that:
274. pinstripe applicator
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"R.H." <[email protected]> writes:
>Just posted some new photos:
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
#272 Window Lock
#273 A clamp-on sight of some sort.
#274 Pinstrip painter?
#277 Tee nut
"Dennis Arenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Object #272 is a lock device for casement sliding windows. Just
> tighten the scew on the inside rail and the window can't be slid open
> even if the latch is jimmied. I've used them often when leaving the
> house for vacation.
> Dennis
Correct
"Martin H. Eastburn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Jonathan Wilson wrote:
>
> > R.H. wrote:
> >
> >> Just posted some new photos:
> >>
> >> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> 272 window lock
> 273 lathe dog
> 274 pin striper - single size single line. Bottle is for the thick ink.
> 275 clay pigeon hand thrower - target practice with a shotgun or '45 :-)
> 276 Simple iris camera lens or a lamp shutter.
> 277 dry wall screw anchor
> 266 egg dipper / candle the egg for internal viewing or coloring eggs.
> 267 acorn nut - from sheet metal - lower quality than solid material.
> 268 bayonet
> 270 tin type or a true lantern slide for carbon arc viewing.
These are all correct, though I'm still not sure about 266, I have to admit
I hope it doesn't turn out to actually be an egg dipper, also I'm not sure
277 is for drywall.
I am sure others will point out that the Roman numeral L stands
for 50
XL would give 40
XLIX would give 49
But inquiring minds would like to know if
IL would work?
(top posted for your convenience)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Keep the whole world singing . . . .
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"Fly-by-Night CC" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> XLIX? Am I misreading this? If you're going for "19" then it
> should be
> written, "XIX". Otherwise it's speld Exlax.
>
> --
> Owen Lowe and his Fly-by-Night Copper Company
> ____
>
> "Sure we'll have fascism in America, but it'll come disguised
> as 100% Americanism." -- Huey P. Long
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> Just posted some new photos:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
274 - for marking out lines? pool/billiard table?
275 - pure guess - a trigger pull gauge
276 an old camera aperture control iris
277 - a nut that is drawn into the soft wood / chipboard by
the action of the bolt - thus allowing you to bolt together
without great access to nut and leaving very little
protruding.
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
> Let's take their drawings of contraptions (I can't use the word
> "invention" here). Robinson's drawings were clean and delicate, while
> Goldberg's were raucous and energetic. Robinson would simply state what
> the contraption was supposed to do, and most of the delight came from
> tracing the way the thing would actually function. Goldberg would
> explain how each part of the system would work-- frequently relying on
> really lunatic speculations of causality. (One example required popping
> a balloon, which in turn could cause a shell-shocked WWI vet to keel
> over and land on a camera's squeezebulb.) In short, they both worked
> with the same core idea, but their styles and executions were very, very
> different.
It made for a series of good puzzle games - 'The Incredible Machine' and
it's sequel 'Contraptions' which I am playing now.
- Gerry Quinn
> Do you know of a web site that could verify this one?
No, unfortunately I can't find one quite like that and I must admit that I'm
only speaking from what I've heard others call them. Lathe dogs generally
have a tab that is either bent to go into a slot on a faceplate or straight
to be driven by a bolt mounted on the faceplate. I've always heard the kind
with a fork like the one pictured called grinder or grinding dogs but I
don't know why. I can find examples of grinding dogs with 2 forks on them
but I must plead ignorance on the differences.
> "Found in my late Father-in-laws' estate. He had been an engineer at Pratt
> &
> Whitney Aircraft in Hartford, but this was from his personal shop. He was
> a
> tinkerer extraordinaire.
>
> Seems to be an oiler or something, with the small rolling notched wheel
> dispensing whatever was in the vial (looks like a striking wheel from a
> Zippo, but not used that way here).
>
> The round head screw on the side is for attaching to something that would
> go through the hole, which does not have a passage into the nozzle.
That fits with the pinstriper theory. The screw would be to clamp an
adjustable edge guide that you can use to follow an existing stripe or a
contour on the body of a car. Sort of like using a rip fence on a circular
saw. Here's a modern version:
<http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=1916&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=503&iSubCat=536&iProductID=1916&itemType=PRODUCT&RS=1&keyword=beugler>
Best Regards,
Keith Marshall
[email protected]
"I'm not grown up enough to be so old!"
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Keith Marshall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> 272 - Window/screen retainer or stop?
>
> Correct.
>
>> 273 - Lathe/Grinder dog
>
> Do you know of a web site that could verify this one?
>
>> 274 - Paint striper?
>
> Here is some background on this item, as stated in the email from the
> owner:
>
> "Found in my late Father-in-laws' estate. He had been an engineer at Pratt
> &
> Whitney Aircraft in Hartford, but this was from his personal shop. He was
> a
> tinkerer extraordinaire.
>
> Seems to be an oiler or something, with the small rolling notched wheel
> dispensing whatever was in the vial (looks like a striking wheel from a
> Zippo, but not used that way here).
>
> The round head screw on the side is for attaching to something that would
> go through the hole, which does not have a passage into the nozzle.
>
> This fits nicely into the hand, with thumb and finger resting in the
> opposing depressions."
>
>
>> 275 - Skeet thrower
>> 276 - Camera iris/shutter/aperture?
>> 277 - Tee Nut to put a threaded hole in wood
>
> These three are correct, aperture for 276.
>
>
"Joe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:pc0Rd.66424$QS5.56070@trndny06...
> Just guesses of course, but...
>
> 272. Some sort of screen door fastener. Maybe to hold the glass or screen
> in place?
Close but not correct.
>
> 273. Sprinkler pipe clamp.
Not sure here...
>
> 274. I would guess at an old chaulk or ink dispenster for carpenters, etc.
Possibly, not sure about this one either.
>
> 277. Cheap but effective "nut" for use on fiber board or soft woods with
> light duty carriage bolts, etc. Digs into the wood as you tighten the
> fastener and thus does not spin?
Correct.
"Dave Balderstone" <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca> wrote in message
news:180220051110374952%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca...
> In article <[email protected]>, Dennis Arenson
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Object #272 is a lock device for casement sliding windows. Just
> > tighten the scew on the inside rail and the window can't be slid open
> > even if the latch is jimmied. I've used them often when leaving the
> > house for vacation.
>
> I agree with you on that.
>
> 275 is a hand-held flinger for clay pigeons (skeet). Can't remember
> what the proper name is... Trap?
>
> 276 is a camera aperture.
>
> 277 is a t-nut
>
> 269 is a propeller, end on.
These are all correct.
"Marco Milazzo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hard to tell without seeing the whole piece, but #276 looks like a
> universal lens mount for studio cameras. This was a device to mo9unt
> any diameter lens. The iris was closed by turning a small knob on the
> side.
You might be right, it is just part of a camera, I'll post a photo of the
whole piece in a day or two.
In article <[email protected]>,
R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>Just posted some new photos:
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
272: Stops something from sliding on rails. You put this thing on
the rail, move it to where you want it to stop, and tighten the set
screw. Probably a window as it's not big enough for a door.
273: Presumably the screw is meant to center something.. no idea what.
274: Pesticide bottle?
275: Given the name "Western Cartridge", it might be a tool for
sighting-in rifles or some such thing.
276: Camera aperture
277: Device for putting metal threads in a wooden block which will be
turned while in use. You drill the hole in the block, then hammer
this thing in. A pepper shaker of mine has a similar device inside. Doesn't
work too well because the prongs don't grip well.
R.H. wrote:
> Just posted some new photos:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
267. Cheap formed sheet metal acorn nut.
268. An early rifle bayonet.
274. Some kind of sprayer (disinfectant maybe?)
Jeff
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> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> 274 - for marking out lines? pool/billiard table?
Don't know, I'm hoping someone will verify this for us with a good link.
>
> 275 - pure guess - a trigger pull gauge
Nope
>
> 276 an old camera aperture control iris
Camera aperture is correct.
>
> 277 - a nut that is drawn into the soft wood / chipboard by
> the action of the bolt - thus allowing you to bolt together
> without great access to nut and leaving very little
> protruding.
Yes.
"Johan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Peter" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> > 274. line maker using paint
>
> Or glue applicator
Could be
>
> > 275. Looks painful?
> > 276. Iris in oil or gas fired furnace to adjust flame
> > 277. Nutlock for funiture assembly
>
> Actually called a "teenut," (works similarly to real teenuts for
> clamping workpieces for machining, but in wood or plastic to mount
> various positioning aids) Use a lot of them making custom wheelchair
> rehab seating.
Yes, tee nut is the answer that I was looking for here.
272 - Window/screen retainer or stop?
273 - Lathe/Grinder dog
274 - Paint striper?
275 - Skeet thrower
276 - Camera iris/shutter/aperture?
277 - Tee Nut to put a threaded hole in wood
Best Regards,
Keith Marshall
[email protected]
"I'm not grown up enough to be so old!"
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just posted some new photos:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 09:31:19 GMT, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>Just posted some new photos:
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
From rec.ww
#272 Clamp for attaching to a metal strip
#273 Frame to hold a bearing
#274 Small carbide lamp?
#275 Hand trap for throwing clay pigeons
#276 Camera iris
#277 'Tee' nut for putting threaded holes in plywood, mdf, etc.
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"Marco Milazzo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hard to tell without seeing the whole piece, but #276 looks like a
> universal lens mount for studio cameras. This was a device to mo9unt
> any diameter lens. The iris was closed by turning a small knob on the
> side.
I put a few photos of the whole piece on the site below, I think it's just
the front part of an old camera:
http://pzphotosan52.blogspot.com/
In article <[email protected]>,
Rich Grise <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 11:38:57 -0600, Matthew Russotto wrote:
>
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> Rich Grise <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 09:31:19 +0000, R.H. wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>Does anyone know why #275 has all that Rube Goldberg clockwork
>>>and stuff? Why is it so complicated? (Yes, I know what it is,
>>>that's been answered a lot. :-) )
>>
>> It has a control to adjust the jaw width (for different sized
>> pigeons). Or did you mean 274?
>
>I don't remember the number now, but I was talking about that skeet
>flinger thing.
>
>So what's with all the springs?
That's 275. The large spring adds to the force of the fling. The
small one holds the jaw open and in tension, although I don't know
precisely why that's desirable (as opposed to having the jaws fixed in
place at any given position). Perhaps that, too adds to the force of
the fling.
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 19:34:57 -0000, "Roy Dennis"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Is Rube Goldberg an American Heath Robinson?
>http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/walker/exhibitions/heathrobinson/
Rube's machines were a trifle more complex, and needed captions to
explain them.
http://www.rube-goldberg.com/html/pencil_sharpener.htm
In article <[email protected]>,
R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>Just posted some new photos:
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
O.K. Again -- I'm answering from rec.crafts.metalworking.
272) Hanging clip for whiteboard or the like, fits aluminum rails around room.
273) Forked tail (metal) lathe dog.
274) Rolling paint line applicator.
275) Hand clay pigeon flinger for trap or skeet shooting.
276) Iris diaphragm for camera or for (perhaps) microscope light source
Normally, it would be mounted inside the lens, for a camera, but
there is not enough of the surround to make this clear. With
the rust visible, I suspect the light source instead.
277) "Tee nut" (Brand name) for puting machine threads in wood. It
is driven into a hole from the far side, and the spikes prevent
rotation.
Now to see what others have answered.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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<snip>
>That fits with the pinstriper theory. The screw would be to clamp an
>adjustable edge guide that you can use to follow an existing stripe or a
>contour on the body of a car. Sort of like using a rip fence on a circular
>saw. Here's a modern version:
>
><http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=1916&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=503&iSubCat=536&iProductID=1916&itemType=PRODUCT&RS=1&keyword=beugler>
>
><snip>
>
>
>
Yup, I was just going to Eastwood myself to get the link. I have a
couple of those Beuglers for pinstriping.
In article <[email protected]>,
R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Marco Milazzo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Hard to tell without seeing the whole piece, but #276 looks like a
>> universal lens mount for studio cameras. This was a device to mo9unt
>> any diameter lens. The iris was closed by turning a small knob on the
>> side.
>
>I put a few photos of the whole piece on the site below, I think it's just
>the front part of an old camera:
>
>http://pzphotosan52.blogspot.com/
O.K. A complete shutter assembly, missing only the screw-in
front and rear lens elements.
And the cylinder is specifically for a pneumatic shutter release,
a hose to a rubber bulb squeezed by the operator.
A very slow shutter, too. Speeds of 1/4, 1/2, 1 and 2 seconds,
plus T and B (T=time -- shutter remains open after first actuation of
the squeeze bulb until the second actuation) (B=bulb -- shutter remains
open as long as the bulb is squeezed, so you open the shutter with one
hand, and trip the flashbulb with the other.)
At a guess, the 'I' (Instant?) setting is simply the shortest
time that the shutter is mechanically capable of -- maybe 1/8 second or
so.
I think that the cylinder on the otherside is a dashpot -- a
piston moving in a closed cylinder with a calibrated leak -- useful for
slow mechanical timing.
Enjoy,
DoN.
P.S. Again, posting from rec.crafts.metalworking.
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In article <[email protected]>,
Andy Dingley <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 18 Feb 2005 23:00:17 -0500, [email protected] (DoN. Nichols)
>wrote:
>
>> O.K. A complete shutter assembly, missing only the screw-in
>>front and rear lens elements.
>
>Iris, not shutter. It's adjustable to control the aperture, not open &
>shut to control exposure. An iris like this can't be fully closed,
>for one thing.
I said "complete shutter *assembly*". That is shutter blades,
timing mechanism *and* iris diaphragm.
The iris is only part of it. Did you bother to look at his
latest set of images of that one item from many views? It has the
provisions for setting several (quite slow) shutter speeds.
The shutter happens to be open, so what was initially
photographed and presented in the puzzle was only the iris diaphragm,
but he has the whole shutter assembly there -- except for the lens
elements which screw in behind and in front of the iris and shutter.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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In article <[email protected]>,
Rich Grise <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 04:51:28 -0500, Mark and Kim Smith wrote:
[ ... ]
>> Hey, I can get a pic of one of those on a large lathe at work.
>
>There's also one on one of the lathes where I work. But in the
>pic #275, the points didn't look like wheels to me, and it doesn't
>fasten down.
>
>http://www.neodruid.net/images/lathe_thing_1.jpg
>http://www.neodruid.net/images/lathe_thing_2.jpg
>
>The background is all dark, because the shop is shut down for the night.
>
>But you can see the source of my confusion! :-)
Yep! What you photographed is a steady rest, not a lathe dog.
It is intended to have telescoping arms extend out of the three arms
shown at 120 degree intervals. The knobs on the end of the arms extend
the inner ones to contact the workpiece and support it on center as it
rotates.
The lathe dog shown in the puzzle clamps onto the workpiece with
the square-headed screw, and a pin from the faceplate fits between the
two legs to rotate the workpiece with the spindle while it is supported
between centers.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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Roy Dennis wrote:
> Is Rube Goldberg an American Heath Robinson?
> http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/walker/exhibitions/heathrobinson/
In a way, yes. Both Heath Robinson and Rube Goldberg were famous for
drawing insanely complicated machines which accomplished silly or simple
tasks-- Robinson in Great Britain, Goldberg here in the States.
Basically, when you want to describe a really silly, slapdash, or
crazily improvised system, their names are the shorthand to use in their
respective countries. But that's pretty much where the similarity begins
and ends.
Let's take their drawings of contraptions (I can't use the word
"invention" here). Robinson's drawings were clean and delicate, while
Goldberg's were raucous and energetic. Robinson would simply state what
the contraption was supposed to do, and most of the delight came from
tracing the way the thing would actually function. Goldberg would
explain how each part of the system would work-- frequently relying on
really lunatic speculations of causality. (One example required popping
a balloon, which in turn could cause a shell-shocked WWI vet to keel
over and land on a camera's squeezebulb.) In short, they both worked
with the same core idea, but their styles and executions were very, very
different.
It's sort of trite to chalk their differences up to their respective
cultures-- you know, casting Robinson as the dignified, understated
Brit, with echoes of Wodehouse's Jeeves, while Rube Goldberg represents
the exuberance of early-20th-century American culture (a large part of
which was due to recently-immigrant Jews of the time). But it'd be true.
Robinson illustrated novels, and worked for stylish magazines: Goldberg
worked as a newspaper cartoonist, cranking out weekly strips like "Boob
McNutt."
Keith Marshall wrote:
>>Do you know of a web site that could verify this one?
>
>
> No, unfortunately I can't find one quite like that and I must admit that I'm
> only speaking from what I've heard others call them. Lathe dogs generally
> have a tab that is either bent to go into a slot on a faceplate or straight
> to be driven by a bolt mounted on the faceplate. I've always heard the kind
> with a fork like the one pictured called grinder or grinding dogs but I
> don't know why. I can find examples of grinding dogs with 2 forks on them
> but I must plead ignorance on the differences.
>
>
>>"Found in my late Father-in-laws' estate. He had been an engineer at Pratt
>>&
>>Whitney Aircraft in Hartford, but this was from his personal shop. He was
>>a
>>tinkerer extraordinaire.
>>
>>Seems to be an oiler or something, with the small rolling notched wheel
>>dispensing whatever was in the vial (looks like a striking wheel from a
>>Zippo, but not used that way here).
>>
>>The round head screw on the side is for attaching to something that would
>>go through the hole, which does not have a passage into the nozzle.
>
>
> That fits with the pinstriper theory. The screw would be to clamp an
> adjustable edge guide that you can use to follow an existing stripe or a
> contour on the body of a car. Sort of like using a rip fence on a circular
> saw. Here's a modern version:
>
> <http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=1916&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=503&iSubCat=536&iProductID=1916&itemType=PRODUCT&RS=1&keyword=beugler>
>
> Best Regards,
> Keith Marshall
> [email protected]
>
> "I'm not grown up enough to be so old!"
>
>
> "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>"Keith Marshall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>272 - Window/screen retainer or stop?
>>
>>Correct.
>>
>>
>>>273 - Lathe/Grinder dog
>>
>>Do you know of a web site that could verify this one?
>>
>>
>>>274 - Paint striper?
>>
>>Here is some background on this item, as stated in the email from the
>>owner:
>>
>>"Found in my late Father-in-laws' estate. He had been an engineer at Pratt
>>&
>>Whitney Aircraft in Hartford, but this was from his personal shop. He was
>>a
>>tinkerer extraordinaire.
>>
>>Seems to be an oiler or something, with the small rolling notched wheel
>>dispensing whatever was in the vial (looks like a striking wheel from a
>>Zippo, but not used that way here).
>>
>>The round head screw on the side is for attaching to something that would
>>go through the hole, which does not have a passage into the nozzle.
>>
>>This fits nicely into the hand, with thumb and finger resting in the
>>opposing depressions."
>>
>>
>>
>>>275 - Skeet thrower
>>>276 - Camera iris/shutter/aperture?
>>>277 - Tee Nut to put a threaded hole in wood
>>
>>These three are correct, aperture for 276.
>>
>>
>
>
>
I have the model type - a professional hand holder - less ink - but in a box
the size of a check replacements box - and another one full of various heads.
I planned to pinstripe a model I am doing but got interrupted by excessive work
at work....
The heads seem to be the same or like that on the auto one - massive ink supply.
Martin
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* R. H.
> Just posted some new photos:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
272: A device to connect current to the water pipes, i.e. grounding.
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* R. H.
> Just posted some new photos:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
277 One of three parts of a nut bolt system to fasten something on a
plaster wall or whatever this is called in English.
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"Jon Haugsand" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> * R. H.
> > Just posted some new photos:
> >
> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> 277 One of three parts of a nut bolt system to fasten something on a
> plaster wall or whatever this is called in English.
I don't think that there is three parts to this one, but it's something
similar for fastening.
In article <[email protected]>,
Rich Grise <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 09:31:19 +0000, R.H. wrote:
>
>> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>Does anyone know why #275 has all that Rube Goldberg clockwork
>and stuff? Why is it so complicated? (Yes, I know what it is,
>that's been answered a lot. :-) )
It has a control to adjust the jaw width (for different sized
pigeons). Or did you mean 274?
"Mark and Kim Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> R.H. wrote:
>
> >Just posted some new photos:
> >
> >http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> From rec.woodworking
>
> #272: window stop
Correct.
> #273: Well, it will hold a rod. Maybe a centering jig?
> #274: Pinstriping tool.
Still looking for info on these.
> #275: dunno.
> #276: camera shutter
Close, but not correct.
> #277: "T" nut
Yes
"Gary Brady" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Gary Brady wrote:
> > R.H. wrote:
> >
> >> Just posted some new photos:
> >>
> >> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> >>
> >>
> > 272. Window lock
Correct
> > 273. Lathe dog
I looked on the web and couldn't find one like it, still not sure.
> > 274. No clue
> > 275. Wire tensioner
Nope
> > 276. Camera aperture
> > 277. Tee nut
Both correct.
> >
> On second look, I'll say that:
>
> 274. pinstripe applicator
Don't know...
In article <[email protected]>,
"Peter" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 274. line maker using paint
Or glue applicator
> 275. Looks painful?
> 276. Iris in oil or gas fired furnace to adjust flame
> 277. Nutlock for funiture assembly
Actually called a "teenut," (works similarly to real teenuts for
clamping workpieces for machining, but in wood or plastic to mount
various positioning aids) Use a lot of them making custom wheelchair
rehab seating.
In article <[email protected]>,
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
272. ALuminum window lock or travel stop?
275 is a hand trap, for throwing clay targets for shotgun practice.
"Johan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> 272. ALuminum window lock or travel stop?
> 275 is a hand trap, for throwing clay targets for shotgun practice.
Both of these are correct.
Object #272 is a lock device for casement sliding windows. Just
tighten the scew on the inside rail and the window can't be slid open
even if the latch is jimmied. I've used them often when leaving the
house for vacation.
Dennis
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 09:31:19 GMT, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>Just posted some new photos:
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
"Patrick Hamlyn" <[email protected]_OcomSP_AM.au> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> 276 looks like a shutter (to an old camera? film equipment? I dont
know)
> >
> >It's not a shutter, but it is part of a camera.
>
> The shutter is behind the iris. The iris is first opened to the
> calculated/selected F-stop, then the shutter opens briefly.
>
> What we're looking at here is the iris.
Correct, except on this old camera part the shutter is in front of the iris.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I just wanted to assure you that item 274 is indeed a paint striper as
> many have indicated. I have one that I bought long ago for the
> exorbitant price of $4.79. I still have the instructions. It is
> titled the Master Double and Single Line Paint Striper Model No. 1100
> and was manufactured by the Embee Corporation of Springfield, OH. You
> are missing several of the brass wheels and spacers that allow
> different line widths and double lines.
>
Thanks for the information, if anyone didn't see the link someone left on my
site, there is one very similar shown here:
http://www.dickblick.com/zz289/08/products.asp?param=0&ig_id=2776
In article <L86Rd.14081$Zr.9155@okepread03>,
"DanG" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I am sure others will point out that the Roman numeral L stands
> for 50
> XL would give 40
> XLIX would give 49
Oooops. You, of course, are right. My brain was telling me the L was 5
for some reason...
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:21:21 -0600, DanG wrote:
> I am sure others will point out that the Roman numeral L stands
> for 50
> XL would give 40
> XLIX would give 49
>
> But inquiring minds would like to know if
> IL would work?
There are those who say that it's bad form to subtract anything
but the next lower "denomination" from a given symbol, i.e.,
XL, 40 plus IX, 9, gives 49. But you can't do VL for 45 or IL for
49. I think XC works for 90, but not IC for 99 or VC for 95.
But I'm pretty sure that that's mostly a "school of thought", as
opposed to a hard-and-fast rule.
BTW, I know what 272 and 277 are, but am afraid to guess on any
of the others, except that 273 looks like a holder of some kind
for something round. Maybe a bipod for a boresight scope or
something.
Cheers!
Rich
272. Some kind of clamp, but I don't know what for.
273. Lathe dog.
274. Pinstripe painter. Fill the bottle with paint, invert it, and roll
paint on with the wheel. If not for paint, then some other liquid, maybe
adhesive.
275. Thing for throwing clay pigeons when shooting skeet. (Save the
poor, defenseless skeets! ;-)
276. Camera iris.
277. Tee-nut for wood or particle board.
Now, I'll go read the other answers on rec.crafts.metalworking...
-Ron
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 04:51:28 -0500, Mark and Kim Smith wrote:
> <snip>
>
>>BTW, I know what 272 and 277 are, but am afraid to guess on any
>>of the others, except that 273 looks like a holder of some kind
>>for something round. Maybe a bipod for a boresight scope or
>>something.
>>
>>Cheers!
>>Rich
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Hey, I can get a pic of one of those on a large lathe at work.
There's also one on one of the lathes where I work. But in the
pic #275, the points didn't look like wheels to me, and it doesn't
fasten down.
http://www.neodruid.net/images/lathe_thing_1.jpg
http://www.neodruid.net/images/lathe_thing_2.jpg
The background is all dark, because the shop is shut down for the night.
But you can see the source of my confusion! :-)
Cheers!
Rich
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 17:51:59 -0500, Jeff Wisnia wrote:
> Rich Grise wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:21:21 -0600, DanG wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I am sure others will point out that the Roman numeral L stands
>>>for 50
>>>XL would give 40
>>>XLIX would give 49
>>>
>>>But inquiring minds would like to know if
>>>IL would work?
>>
>>
>> There are those who say that it's bad form to subtract anything
>> but the next lower "denomination" from a given symbol, i.e.,
>> XL, 40 plus IX, 9, gives 49. But you can't do VL for 45 or IL for
>> 49. I think XC works for 90, but not IC for 99 or VC for 95.
>
> I've always wanted to see a step by step example of how a long division
> problem with a couple of "not too easy" numbers is solved in the Roman
> numeral system. Can someone show me/us one?
When I was a kid, there was a series of books either by Time-Life or
Bell Labs/Disney or something, with all kinds of interesting scientific
stuff. In the volume on numbers, there's a cartoon of a guy trying to
do long division in Roman numerals. ISTR that after filling up a whole
page (like filling up a whole blackboard in a comic strip) the guy
gives up. :-)
> The ancient Hebrew numeral system is even simpler as only addition is
> needed to determine the full value, there's no subtraction of lower
> denominations located to the left of higher ones. If interested, see:
>
> http://www.answers.com/topic/hebrew-numerals
>
>
> Jeff
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 23:55:54 +0000, R.H. wrote:
>
> "Jon Haugsand" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> * R. H.
>> > Just posted some new photos:
>> >
>> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>
>> 277 One of three parts of a nut bolt system to fasten something on a
>> plaster wall or whatever this is called in English.
>
> I don't think that there is three parts to this one, but it's something
> similar for fastening.
It is definitely not a wall anchor. (although it could be used for one if
put into place before assembling the wall! ;-) )
Cheers!
Rich
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 18:41:23 +0000, R.H. wrote:
>
> "Patrick Hamlyn" <[email protected]_OcomSP_AM.au> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >> 276 looks like a shutter (to an old camera? film equipment? I dont
> know)
>> >
>> >It's not a shutter, but it is part of a camera.
>>
>> The shutter is behind the iris. The iris is first opened to the
>> calculated/selected F-stop, then the shutter opens briefly.
>>
>> What we're looking at here is the iris.
>
> Correct, except on this old camera part the shutter is in front of the iris.
If this is this one:
http://pzphotosan52.blogspot.com/
then it's clearly a shutter, since they say so right on the page.
The "T" is "Time", the "B" is "Bulb", I don't know what the "I"
is (maybe instant?), then 1/4, 1/2, 1 and 2 have to be shutter
speeds. And the cylinder on the right for the remote bulb. The
little pointer on the bottom is proabably equivalent to F stop.
Oh! I see - in the original photo, all we saw was the iris, in
the back view. On my monitor, all I see for the original is black.
Also, in the back view, you can see that that lower pointer is
coupled to it. So the assembly is both the shutter and the iris.
Cheers!
Rich
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 11:38:57 -0600, Matthew Russotto wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Rich Grise <[email protected]> wrote:
>>On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 09:31:19 +0000, R.H. wrote:
>>
>>> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>
>>Does anyone know why #275 has all that Rube Goldberg clockwork
>>and stuff? Why is it so complicated? (Yes, I know what it is,
>>that's been answered a lot. :-) )
>
> It has a control to adjust the jaw width (for different sized
> pigeons). Or did you mean 274?
I don't remember the number now, but I was talking about that skeet
flinger thing.
So what's with all the springs?
Thanks,
Rich
Just guesses of course, but...
272. Some sort of screen door fastener. Maybe to hold the glass or screen
in place?
273. Sprinkler pipe clamp.
274. I would guess at an old chaulk or ink dispenster for carpenters, etc.
277. Cheap but effective "nut" for use on fiber board or soft woods with
light duty carriage bolts, etc. Digs into the wood as you tighten the
fastener and thus does not spin?
Regards,
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"Peter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > Just posted some new photos:
> >
> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
>
> 272. Al window stop or lock
Correct
> 273.Nut cracker
Nope
> 274. line maker using paint
This one belongs to someone else, neither he nor I know exactly what it's
for, so I'm not sure if this is correct.
> 275. Looks painful?
> 276. Iris in oil or gas fired furnace to adjust flame
Not for a furnace
> 277. Nutlock for funiture assembly
Don't know if this is for furniture assembly, but you have the right general
idea.
"Keith Marshall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> 272 - Window/screen retainer or stop?
Correct.
> 273 - Lathe/Grinder dog
Do you know of a web site that could verify this one?
> 274 - Paint striper?
Here is some background on this item, as stated in the email from the owner:
"Found in my late Father-in-laws' estate. He had been an engineer at Pratt &
Whitney Aircraft in Hartford, but this was from his personal shop. He was a
tinkerer extraordinaire.
Seems to be an oiler or something, with the small rolling notched wheel
dispensing whatever was in the vial (looks like a striking wheel from a
Zippo, but not used that way here).
The round head screw on the side is for attaching to something that would
go through the hole, which does not have a passage into the nozzle.
This fits nicely into the hand, with thumb and finger resting in the
opposing depressions."
> 275 - Skeet thrower
> 276 - Camera iris/shutter/aperture?
> 277 - Tee Nut to put a threaded hole in wood
These three are correct, aperture for 276.
> Thanks for the information, if anyone didn't see the link someone left on
> my
> site, there is one very similar shown here:
Here's another one:
http://www.moseart.com/EMBEE.JPG
Best Regards,
Keith Marshall
[email protected]
"I'm not grown up enough to be so old!"
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> I just wanted to assure you that item 274 is indeed a paint striper as
>> many have indicated. I have one that I bought long ago for the
>> exorbitant price of $4.79. I still have the instructions. It is
>> titled the Master Double and Single Line Paint Striper Model No. 1100
>> and was manufactured by the Embee Corporation of Springfield, OH. You
>> are missing several of the brass wheels and spacers that allow
>> different line widths and double lines.
>>
>
> Thanks for the information, if anyone didn't see the link someone left on
> my
> site, there is one very similar shown here:
>
> http://www.dickblick.com/zz289/08/products.asp?param=0&ig_id=2776
>
>
> > I am sure others will point out that the Roman numeral L stands
> > for 50
> > XL would give 40
> > XLIX would give 49
>
> Oooops. You, of course, are right. My brain was telling me the L was 5
> for some reason...
I've been going to a web site that translates to and from roman numerals,
since they are kind of tricky if you don't use them very much.
#271 - Something for distilling?
"Martin H. Eastburn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Jonathan Wilson wrote:
>
>> R.H. wrote:
>>
>>> Just posted some new photos:
>>>
>>> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>
>> 272 looks like a device that one could screw to hold a window closed, I
>> remember owning or using one similar to that (but covered in a cream
>> colored paint instead of shiny like that one)
>> 274 looks like its designed to spray something (insect spray? paint? dont
>> know)
>> 276 looks like a shutter (to an old camera? film equipment? I dont know)
>> 277 looks like cutting blades from something like a garbage disposal or
>> something.
> 272 window lock
> 273 lathe dog
> 274 pin striper - single size single line. Bottle is for the thick ink.
> 275 clay pigeon hand thrower - target practice with a shotgun or '45 :-)
> 276 Simple iris camera lens or a lamp shutter.
> 277 dry wall screw anchor
> 266 egg dipper / candle the egg for internal viewing or coloring eggs.
> 267 acorn nut - from sheet metal - lower quality than solid material.
> 268 bayonet
> 270 tin type or a true lantern slide for carbon arc viewing.
>
> Martin
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> * R. H.
> > Just posted some new photos:
> >
> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> 272: A device to connect current to the water pipes, i.e. grounding.
Nope
Mark and Kim Smith wrote:
> <snip>
>
>> That fits with the pinstriper theory. The screw would be to clamp an
>> adjustable edge guide that you can use to follow an existing stripe or
>> a contour on the body of a car. Sort of like using a rip fence on a
>> circular saw. Here's a modern version:
>>
>> <http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=1916&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=503&iSubCat=536&iProductID=1916&itemType=PRODUCT&RS=1&keyword=beugler>
>>
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Yup, I was just going to Eastwood myself to get the link. I have a
> couple of those Beuglers for pinstriping.
http://www.beugler.com/high.html that is the one I have - nice movie and general site.
I'll use it in book binding and other little tasks.
Martin
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On 18 Feb 2005 23:00:17 -0500, [email protected] (DoN. Nichols)
wrote:
> O.K. A complete shutter assembly, missing only the screw-in
>front and rear lens elements.
Iris, not shutter. It's adjustable to control the aperture, not open &
shut to control exposure. An iris like this can't be fully closed,
for one thing.
> The aperature control is at the bottom. The top is a shutter
> control. I don't see the shutter itself; perhaps the aperture and the
> shutter are the same device, the film being insensitive enough to make
> the small opening not a concern.
>
This one has a shutter just in front of the aperture, it's made of two
parts, one comes from the top the other from the bottom until they overlap.
I just posted one more photo, in which the shutter can be seen:
http://pzphotosan52.blogspot.com/
Rob
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> "R.H." <[email protected]> writes:
> >Just posted some new photos:
> >
> >http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
>
> #272 Window Lock
> #273 A clamp-on sight of some sort.
> #274 Pinstrip painter?
> #277 Tee nut
All correct except for 273.
Hard to tell without seeing the whole piece, but #276 looks like a
universal lens mount for studio cameras. This was a device to mo9unt
any diameter lens. The iris was closed by turning a small knob on the
side.
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 09:31:19 GMT, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>Just posted some new photos:
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
"Jonathan Wilson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> R.H. wrote:
>
> > Just posted some new photos:
> >
> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> 272 looks like a device that one could screw to hold a window closed, I
> remember owning or using one similar to that (but covered in a cream
> colored paint instead of shiny like that one)
Correct, it's a sliding window lock
> 274 looks like its designed to spray something (insect spray? paint? dont
know)
I don't think it's a sprayer
> 276 looks like a shutter (to an old camera? film equipment? I dont know)
It's not a shutter, but it is part of a camera.
> 277 looks like cutting blades from something like a garbage disposal or
> something.
Nope
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 276 looks like a shutter (to an old camera? film equipment? I dont know)
>
>It's not a shutter, but it is part of a camera.
The shutter is behind the iris. The iris is first opened to the
calculated/selected F-stop, then the shutter opens briefly.
What we're looking at here is the iris.
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> >http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> >
>
> From rec.ww
>
> #272 Clamp for attaching to a metal strip
Partial credit for this answer
> #273 Frame to hold a bearing
> #274 Small carbide lamp?
Neither of these
> #275 Hand trap for throwing clay pigeons
> #276 Camera iris
> #277 'Tee' nut for putting threaded holes in plywood, mdf, etc.
These three are correct.