Over the years, there have been many inquiries to The Wreck regarding
Pointy Sticks and a vast wealth of information about Pointy Sticks is
scattered all over hell. Id like to create a compendium of that
information and put it all on an easily accesiible web site before it
gets lost for all times. If you, or anyone you know, would like to
contribute to this compendium or have answers to any of the following
questions - please either e-mail them to me or post them here with the
subject line The Pointy Stick Compendium Project.
Thank you for any assistance you can provide with this matter.
Sincerely
charlie b
Director
The
Pointy Stick Compendium Project
- Where can I find plans for a [ _______ ] Pointy Stick ?
point on the top
point on the bottom
point on the left end
point on the right end
right handed
left handed
-Whats the best way to make Pointy Sticks ?
(I only have $9,000 budgeted for tools)
- Anyone have plans for a jig to make Pointy Sticks that's:
cheap?
easy?
high precision?
- Where can I buy a jig to make Pointy Sticks
thats cheap?
thats easy to use?
that is mirco adjustable?
- What makes a good Pointy Stick good?
how long should the point be?
can The Golden Mean be applied to Pointy Stick design?
should I put a micro point on my Pointy Stick?
are Japanese laminated point Pointy Sticks worth the extra money?
- Who makes the best Pointy Stick and why?
- Should I try and find a Pointy Stick at a flea market and
restore it or should I just bite the bullet and order a
LIe NIelsen Pointy Stick?
- Has anyone seen or actually used the new Veritas Pointy Stick?
- What wood should I use for my Pointy Stick?
hard hardwood?
soft hardwood?
hard softwood?
soft softwood?
what about laminated Pointy Sticks?
- Is Grain Orientation important for Pointy Sticks and, if so,
how should the grain be oriented relative to the long axis
of the Pointy Stick?
- Is fire hardening the tip worth it?
- Is it really necessary to polish the tip of my Pointy Stick
or can I stop at 6000 grit?
- Should I put a finish on my Pointed Stick and, if so,
what is the best finish to use on my Pointy Stick?
- My Pointy Stick split. Any way to repair it or should I just
start all over?
- I picked up a Pointy Stick at a garage sale/ was given my
great great great grandfathers / grandmothers Pointy Stick/
dug up an old Pointy Stick while digging a new outhouse
hole / dug up an old Pointy Stick while searching for bottles
in an OLD outhouse hole:
where can I find a manual for it?
how do I get the dirt/paint/motor oil/blood/? off / out of it?
anyone know how to tell the age of a Pointy Stick?
is there anyway to find out who made it?
- Where do you get ideas for your Pointy Sticks
- Who, in your opinion, was, or is, the best Pointy Stick maker
- Opinions of Gary Knox Bennetts Pointy Sticks
- Has James Krenov ever made a Pointy Stick
Please feel free to add to this list and/or answer any of the
above questions.
Here's a footnote from The Origins of the Pointy Stick section
of the compendium
*1 Whittting: a fundamentalist form of woodworking. Practioners are
known as Widdlers in South Eastern North America, Whittlers in most of
the rest of North America except parts of eastern Canada, Whytthlaeres
in England, Witliers in Frahnz and the eastern parts of Canada,
Dasdudeseinsliecendevoodmiteinkniphenteule in the former Austrian Empire
and squiggly line, two dots, a slashing curved line with a hook on the
end and three dots over it in Arabic
Whittlers predate The Era of Roy. Some Poiinty Stick historians believe
the Whittlers were themselves predated by the Stone Rubbers and a theory
is developing which involves gnawing and the use of prehistoric beaver
teeth as tools. Beavers are thought to be the inspiration for the
Pointy Stick Concept.
In article <[email protected]>,
Mark & Juanita <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 17:03:45 -0800, charlie b <[email protected]>
>wrote:
<...snipped...>
> Alright, back on topic. I'm having trouble getting my pointy stick
>dimensions correct. Seems I keep screwing up the fractions; would I be
>better off converting to metric to make better pointy sticks?
>
>[There, is that better?]
>
>
Forget about fractions, metric, or tape measures. Just make a pointy
story stick.
--
Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
[email protected]
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 08:18:22 -0800, charlie b <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Over the years, there have been many inquiries to The Wreck regarding
>Pointy Sticks and a vast wealth of information about Pointy Sticks is
>scattered all over hell. Id like to create a compendium of that
>information and put it all on an easily accesiible web site before it
>gets lost for all times.
You have done everyone a great service.
The pointy stick deserves to be enshrined in the Great Wrecklish Hall,
so as to be venerated by the postulants, and so as to confound the
prevaricators, who diminish its worth by misunderstanding its critical
importance.
The pointy stick was used on the first PSAD program (Pointy Stick
Assisted Design) in conjunction with the soft clay that would become
the first record of WoodDorker's plans.
It is a great pity that all the free plans, made with the assistance
of pointy sticks, were lost in the great conflagration of the library
of Alexandria, which shall never enjoy the codification and
accessification of the magnificent Google (son of Gogol, of whom Deja
was the penultimate expression).
Would that glory which was Rome have been so glorious without the
pointy stick to stake the tents of its vast armies?
Did not the Pre-Socratics base their sacred geometry, resulting in the
golden mean, on the first iterations of the pointy stick?
And the very Egyptians, themselves, contemplating the true point of a
properly rendered pointy stick; did they not acquire their
understanding of the pyramids through careful consideration of its
geometrical pointyness?
You have honored the pointy stick, and your honoring shall bring you
great honor, yer honor.
Thomas J. Watson - WoodDorker
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1 (webpage)
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 16:36:13 -0500, "Cherokee-Ltd" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"gw" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> "Military officials, on condition of anonymity, revealed that although no
>> pointy sticks were discovered, caches of material were found which are
>> commonly used in the manufacture of pointy sticks. These materials,
>> purchased in blunt form, can quickly be assembled into deadly weapons.
>> Also,
>> several underground bunkers have been discovered. Crews are still
>> searching
>> for residue from the pointing process. Iraq is known to have harbored
>> several expert stick pointers from the former Soviet Union. The CIA, while
>> denying the report, states only that they had 'Reliable and credible
>> intelligence' that stick pointing was widespread - clearly in violation of
>> the UN's PSMD resolution."
>>
>The definition of PSMD is so vague that the resolution could never be
>upheld. If you look close enough, I'd be willing to bet you could find
>pointy sticks in your own backyard. I think this is clearly a ploy to occupy
>Iraq and seize control over resources such as the falafel. Iraqi cuisine is
>inspired by Turkish, Iranian and even French influences - you'd have to be
>blind not to see this so-called conspiracy. But I digress.
>
>We have to get the pointy sticks off our own streets before we worry about
>Iraq. Just the other day I saw a 9 or 10 year old boy parading around the
>neighbourhood with a pointy stick. Nothing good can come from a pointy stick
>yet we have "collectors" even protesting against the Canadian Pointy Stick
>Registry. I can appreciate a good pointy stick when I see one, remember that
>one Tom Plamann mocked up from MDF for a customer? A work of art but
>remember, pointy sticks are only used to hurt people.
>
>-Brian
>
Man, I hates it when dese trolls from
alt.politics.pointysticks.conspiracy crosspost here.
(hee...snork....giggle...)
:-)...
Thomas J. Watson - WoodDorker
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1 (webpage)
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 09:21:41 -0800, "TeamCasa" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>UP/API
>The new Point Stick, weapon of choice for terrorists world wide in banned in
>US and Canada. US increases border security specifically to enforce AB9966.
>The bill bans all pointed weapons. Knitting groups organize and overthrow
>the government. President Hillary Clinton is impeached and leaves in
>disgrace.
>
"Government sources announced today that the search for pointy sticks
has ended in Iraq. Administration officials refused comment when
asked how the CIA report on PSMD, which had precipitated the invasion,
could be so horribly flawed."
As to the subcategory of Pointy Sticks (tm?) and Impressing Sticks, for
most of my life I have used a Complex Composite Pointy Stick for
writing. Aside from writing, I also find my CCPS an indispensable aid
to woodworking, for making marks, "Impressing" ala 21st century. Almost
as indispensable as the pointy "DO" end of the CCPS is the opposite
rubbery "UNDO" end.
I impressed upon my children, as they grew up, the value of Pointy
Sticks, and not to take them for granted, as they don't just grow on
trees.
I have some questions..Is "Pointy Stick" a more suitable term to use in
the phrase "It's better than being poked in the eye with a sharp
stick!"? I'm thinking it depends on whether you're talking to swells or
riff-raff. Are the 2 types of sticks related, did one evolve from the
other? Sam
"Cherokee-Ltd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> .... I can appreciate a good pointy stick when I see one, remember that
> one Tom Plamann mocked up from MDF for a customer? A work of art but
> remember, pointy sticks are only used to hurt people.
>
> -Brian
>
>
Pointy sticks don't hurt people, people hurt people.
---
Jerry
Sun, Feb 27, 2005, 8:18am (EST-3) [email protected] (charlie=A0b)
says:
Over the years, there have been many inquiries to The Wreck regarding
Pointy Sticks <snip>
Just remember, someone is always going to be careless.
http://www.castleofspirits.com/impaled.gif
JOAT
Intellectual brilliance is no guarantee against being dead wrong.
- David Fasold
Robin Lee wrote:
> "J.B. Bobbitt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>I've decided to make a Pointy Stick, and I've got the following
>>questions/comments:
>>
>>Should I buy a Stanley No. 5 off E-bay, or slap down the cash for a
>>Lie-Nielsen? Or get one of Steve Knight's?
>>
>>Has JOAT posted free plans for a Pointy Stick, or do I have to buy the
>>plans?
>>
>>Will SWMBO want her own Pointy Stick after she sees mine?
>>
>>What kind of Pointy Stick would Tage Frid/Krenov/Tom Plamann come up with?
>>
>>What kind of lighting/heating/dust collection system should I put in my
>
> shop
>
>>to make Pointy Sticks?
>>
>>Has Tom Watson written any hilarious stories about Pointy Sticks?
>>
>>Where can I get custom-made brass hardware for my Pointy Stick?
>>
>>Will LROD correct my usage of capitalization when I write "Pointy Stick"?
>>
>>I went to the local woodworker's show to see the Pointy Stick stuff and
>>thought the admission and parking fee were too high.
>>
>>Do I HAVE to use quarter-sawn oak to make a Craftsman-style Pointy Stick?
>>
>>I think we ought to call Pointy Sticks "Pointed Sticks". It sounds less
>>foo-foo.
>>
>>I've been putting copious amounts of Danish oil on my Pointed Stick for
>>several days and its all gooey. What did I do wrong?
>>
>>While I was making an Pointy Stick, I had a kick-back on my table saw and
>>the Pointy Stick got thrown back through my mid-section and skewered me to
>>the shop wall. What should I do now? (Pics on ABPW)
>>
>>What kind of wood is this Pointy Stick made out of? (Pics on ABPW)
>>
>>I just finished a Pointy Stick for my first
>>daughter/son/grandaughter/grandson/&tc.!!!!! (Pics on ABPW).
>>
>>Does Puppy Wizard know what Pointy Sticks are for?
>>
>>I though I saw a Pointy Stick project described in Shopnotes. Has Krunchy
>>posted them in ABPW yet?
>>
>>
>
>
>
> I think we should split the group...
>
> rec.woodworking.havemadeptystick
> rec.woodworking.havenotmadeptystick
>
> Perhaps we can discuss moderating it at the same time...
>
> TTFN
>
>
I'm going to visit Canada from the US. Do I have to register my pointy
stick at the border? Should I leave it at home so it doesn't impounded.
Does anyone have any plans for a secret compartment I can build into my
car so I can smuggle my pointy stick across the border?
Joe
charlie b wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
>
>>>Does anyone have any plans for a secret compartment I can build into my
>>>car so I can smuggle my pointy stick across the border?
>>>Joe
>>
>>psst....Joe...leave it at home. NO problem getting pointy sticks here in
>>Kanuckistan... I'll hook you up ..
>
>
>
> But aren't Canadian Pointy Sticks metric? Let's see, 25.4 mm
> per inch ... So a 1:6 softwood pointy stick point on a 10 mm stick
> diameter - in inches - is (I'm getting a head ache)
>
> Why not make a secret compartment in a Simple Stick that'll
> hold your Pointy Stick "for transporting" - protecting the point
> and preventing children from injuring themselves. Or, how
> about a removable Pointy Stick point which can be kept
> separate from the stick component of the Pointy Stick when
> the assembled Pointy Stick is not in use?
>
> And how about a device that would cause the "point" to
> retract into the "stick" and a large suction cup pop up
> over the end of the "stick" when the "point" comes within
> 1/1024th of an inch of an eye ball. And if OSHA can be
> persuaded to make it mandatory ...
>
> Was the old wall mounted pencil sharpener the first
> helical wood planer?
>
> Can a Pointy Stick point have a hardness greater than
> RC13? ( I think that's marble on the Moh's Scale)
> Will cryo- treatment significantly increase the
> hardness of high tannin content Point Sticks? What
> about woods with a high silica content like teak?
>
> Is a Left Tilt Pointy Stick safer to use than a Right
> Tilt Pointy Stick?
>
> Do you use the "point guard" on your Pointy Stick
> all the time or does it depend on what type of poking
> you're going to be doing?
>
> When you're poking, how close to the "point" do
> you grip your Pointy Stick?
>
> Has anyone experienced a "point back" or "stick back"
> when "poking", "scratching", "impressing" or "picking"?
> If so, have you figured out what went wrong and maybe
> what can be done to prevent it from happening again?
>
> For Teeth Cleaning Pointy Sticks, what's the least
> gum tissue irritant wood? Are there any woods which
> should definitely not be used for this application?
>
> Can the Euro 32 mm system be applied to Pointy
> Sticks?
>
> charlie b
> Editor (who once again has bitten off way too much . . .)
> The Pointy Stick Compendium Project
> (soon to be shortened to TPSCP)
Sorry for the late reply, I've been working on my PSTD(Pointy Stick
transportation Device), which will probably bear a marked resemblance to
a hanging clothes rod in the back seat of out vehicle. There will of
course be no clothing hung on it as I do not want to have to have any
pointy stick I am transporting to require recalibration after arriving.
Joe
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 17:28:51 -0700, J.B. Bobbitt wrote
(in article <[email protected]>):
> I've decided to make a Pointy Stick, and I've got the following
> questions/comments:
>
> Should I buy a Stanley No. 5 off E-bay, or slap down the cash for a
> Lie-Nielsen? Or get one of Steve Knight's?
>
> Has JOAT posted free plans for a Pointy Stick, or do I have to buy the
> plans?
>
> Will SWMBO want her own Pointy Stick after she sees mine?
>
> What kind of Pointy Stick would Tage Frid/Krenov/Tom Plamann come up with?
>
> What kind of lighting/heating/dust collection system should I put in my shop
> to make Pointy Sticks?
>
> Has Tom Watson written any hilarious stories about Pointy Sticks?
>
> Where can I get custom-made brass hardware for my Pointy Stick?
>
> Will LROD correct my usage of capitalization when I write "Pointy Stick"?
>
> I went to the local woodworker's show to see the Pointy Stick stuff and
> thought the admission and parking fee were too high.
>
> Do I HAVE to use quarter-sawn oak to make a Craftsman-style Pointy Stick?
>
> I think we ought to call Pointy Sticks "Pointed Sticks". It sounds less
> foo-foo.
>
> I've been putting copious amounts of Danish oil on my Pointed Stick for
> several days and its all gooey. What did I do wrong?
>
> While I was making an Pointy Stick, I had a kick-back on my table saw and
> the Pointy Stick got thrown back through my mid-section and skewered me to
> the shop wall. What should I do now? (Pics on ABPW)
>
> What kind of wood is this Pointy Stick made out of? (Pics on ABPW)
>
> I just finished a Pointy Stick for my first
> daughter/son/grandaughter/grandson/&tc.!!!!! (Pics on ABPW).
>
> Does Puppy Wizard know what Pointy Sticks are for?
>
> I though I saw a Pointy Stick project described in Shopnotes. Has Krunchy
> posted them in ABPW yet?
>
>
>
Beware, ATF regulations require you to register said pointy stick and equip
it with a serial number. Resale of pointy stick is unlawful!
Evolution Pointy Stick:
Early years:
Wood, sharpened one end.
Wood, sharpened one end, sharper.
Wood, laminated, sharpened one end.
Modern era:
US Introduces the first steel point stick.
Japanese invent lightweight, durable pointy stick.
US Introduces a new composite, lighter stronger pointy stick.
Makita introduces the first cordless pointy stick
Milwaukee introduces the first 24V cordless pointyStick (tm)
DeWalt knocks of its 27V version
UP/API
The new Point Stick, weapon of choice for terrorists world wide in banned in
US and Canada. US increases border security specifically to enforce AB9966.
The bill bans all pointed weapons. Knitting groups organize and overthrow
the government. President Hillary Clinton is impeached and leaves in
disgrace.
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I tried to introduce a serious woodworking topic and look where
it's gone!
While there were some great suggestions, which I will try
and work into The Pointy Stick Compendium Project, the
diversion to politics and foreign policy is way out of line.
Let's try and stay ON TOPIC folks!
In an attempt to get this thread back on topic, here's one of
my recent findings, prompted by a serious respondent to my
plea for assistance.
One of the subcategories of Pointy Sticks is the version designed
specifically for pressing into "tablets" made of a special mix
of dirts and water. These Impressing Sticks and the impressions
they left in ancient "tablets" served as the inspiration for
The Impressionist Movement 7,000 +/- years later.
I'm also developing a hypothesis that the paintbrush evolved
from the Gnawed Pointy Stick, Gnawing predating both
the Rubbed and Whittled Pointy Stick manufacturing
techniques. I'm still gathering the data to support my
hypothesis and hope to publish sometime early next year.
If you have any photographs or block prints of very early
paintbrushes which might have started out as a Gnawed
Pointy Stick, PLEASE e-mail me a copy, with any support
documentation/provenance you may have to confirm the
age of the artifact.
Please people - try and stay on topic.
charlie b
Editor
The Pointy Stick Compendium Project
> Sorry Charlie (did I just say that out loud?) but this conflicts with
> my own theory on Impressionism, particularly in the regard of those
> such as Degas, Cezanne, Renoir, Matisse, Monet, et al, who suffered,
> in my firm opinion from poor eyesight, and thought that they were
> doing Realism, thus inventing an entire school of visual artwork,
> based entirely on the inability to see clearly.
>
> As proof, I offer you the thought that, were I a painter, which I am
> not, and were I to paint without having my glasses on, which I would
> not, even if I could, I would paint a faithful representation of the
> world as I perceived it; unclear, diaphanous, distorted, pastel, and
> preposterous.
>
> I am surprised that the art critics have not taken my point.
>
> Thomas J. Watson - WoodDorker
>
> tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
> http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1 (webpage)
Though OT, your post has lead to a new Gnawed Pointy
Stick Brush / Art Movement hypothesis. Start by
making a hemlock Gnawed Pointy Stick brush. Wait
30 minutes before beginning to paint. Now paint what
you see. Surrealism!
(Note: hemlock Gnawed Pointy Stick brush sizes should
be kept to small brush sizes as making large
Gnawed Pointy Stick brushes can be hazardous
to your health ( see Socrates).
charlie b
Robatoy wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have any plans for a secret compartment I can build into my
> > car so I can smuggle my pointy stick across the border?
> > Joe
>
> psst....Joe...leave it at home. NO problem getting pointy sticks here in
> Kanuckistan... I'll hook you up ..
But aren't Canadian Pointy Sticks metric? Let's see, 25.4 mm
per inch ... So a 1:6 softwood pointy stick point on a 10 mm stick
diameter - in inches - is (I'm getting a head ache)
Why not make a secret compartment in a Simple Stick that'll
hold your Pointy Stick "for transporting" - protecting the point
and preventing children from injuring themselves. Or, how
about a removable Pointy Stick point which can be kept
separate from the stick component of the Pointy Stick when
the assembled Pointy Stick is not in use?
And how about a device that would cause the "point" to
retract into the "stick" and a large suction cup pop up
over the end of the "stick" when the "point" comes within
1/1024th of an inch of an eye ball. And if OSHA can be
persuaded to make it mandatory ...
Was the old wall mounted pencil sharpener the first
helical wood planer?
Can a Pointy Stick point have a hardness greater than
RC13? ( I think that's marble on the Moh's Scale)
Will cryo- treatment significantly increase the
hardness of high tannin content Point Sticks? What
about woods with a high silica content like teak?
Is a Left Tilt Pointy Stick safer to use than a Right
Tilt Pointy Stick?
Do you use the "point guard" on your Pointy Stick
all the time or does it depend on what type of poking
you're going to be doing?
When you're poking, how close to the "point" do
you grip your Pointy Stick?
Has anyone experienced a "point back" or "stick back"
when "poking", "scratching", "impressing" or "picking"?
If so, have you figured out what went wrong and maybe
what can be done to prevent it from happening again?
For Teeth Cleaning Pointy Sticks, what's the least
gum tissue irritant wood? Are there any woods which
should definitely not be used for this application?
Can the Euro 32 mm system be applied to Pointy
Sticks?
charlie b
Editor (who once again has bitten off way too much . . .)
The Pointy Stick Compendium Project
(soon to be shortened to TPSCP)
Jerry S. wrote:
>
> >
> > > Alright, back on topic...
> >
>
> Please include instructions for making my pointy stick scary sharp.
That's "Scary Sharp (tm)"! You DO NOT want to get on the wrong
side of the Scary Sharp (tm) copyright infringement lawyers.
If you think Coca Cola (tm) protects their brand name wait ''til
you piss off the Scary Sharp (tm) boys!
Now back on topic - the History of The Pointy Stick chapter:
FOX "News" is reporting that the Southern Fundamentalist
Evangelical Judeo-Christian Conference is in the process
of "correcting" Genesis based on a new scroll found near
The Really Dead Sea. Early translations are suggesting
that the actual text reads "On the Seventh Day HE rested,
sitting on the steps of HIS front porch - whittling a Pointy
Stick. And it was good."
FOX has dispatched Geraldo Rivera, their crack investigative
reporter, to the Really Dead Sea area and Hannity (sp?) is
oo his way to interview Jerry Falwell. A four hour "Fair
and Balanced", "objective", "scientific" special will be aired
this weekend on this new Revelation. Stay tuned for date
and time.
On a related note, one of the Mars exploration rovers
has sent back images of what appears to be a Pointy Stick
protruding from the face of an overhanging rock outcrop
named The Overhaning Rock Outcrop. The Mars Team is
studying the images and waiting for infra red, ultra violet
and x-ray images before releasing any more information
on this startling find. The ramifications of finding
Pointy Sticks on other planets is unimaginable.
Now a word from eight of our sponsors.
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Hemroid Treatment (tm)? Ask your doctor about Pointy
Stick Hermroid Treatment (tm).
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where prohibited by law. Side affects may include
excessive bleading, excrutiating "discomfort", blurred
vision and disrupted lower gastro-intenstinal function.
:
:
charlie b
[email protected] wrote:
>
> As to the subcategory of Pointy Sticks (tm?) and Impressing Sticks, for
> most of my life I have used a Complex Composite Pointy Stick for
> writing.
You are or work for a Defense Contractor right?
> Aside from writing, I also find my CCPS an indispensable aid
> to woodworking, for making marks, "Impressing" ala 21st century. Almost
> as indispensable as the pointy "DO" end of the CCPS is the opposite
> rubbery "UNDO" end.
Are you referring to the greatest enahncement to the impressing
pointy stick - the eraser? Did you know that it was originally
developed as a safety device to protect the Pointy Stick user from
accidental punctures? Some fool who didn't read and understand
ALL the Pointy Stick safety instructions tried to use his pointy
stick to scrape off some blood stains from a piece he was working
on and found that the rubber "point guard" worked far better than
the scraping off function of the Pointy Stick.
> I impressed upon my children, as they grew up, the value of Pointy
> Sticks, and not to take them for granted, as they don't just grow on
> trees.
I'm not certain about them actually being generated by trees but
most of the Pointy Stick stock I've found were within or very
near the drip line of a tree. I suspect there is some relationship
there but won't have time to investigate 'til I get the initial draft
of this compendium completed.
> I have some questions..Is "Pointy Stick" a more suitable term to use in
> the phrase "It's better than being poked in the eye with a sharp
> stick!"? I'm thinking it depends on whether you're talking to swells or
> riff-raff. Are the 2 types of sticks related, did one evolve from the
> other? Sam
Sharp Sticks predated Pointy Sticks. Sharp Sticks are edge tools
rather than point tools. A Sharp Stick only requires creating
two (2) intersecting planes - the end(s) can be blunt and not
suitable for poking. The Pointy Stick on the other hand is 33%
more complex in that it requires creating a minimum of THREE
(3) planes which all intersect at a single point - "the point"
of the Pointy Stick.
I guess this distincion should be included in TSPSCP report.
[email protected] wrote:
>
> On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 17:03:45 -0800, charlie b <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >I'm also developing a hypothesis that the paintbrush evolved
> >from the Gnawed Pointy Stick, Gnawing predating both
> >the Rubbed and Whittled Pointy Stick manufacturing
> >techniques. I'm still gathering the data to support my
> >hypothesis and hope to publish sometime early next year.
>
> if your teeth hold out?
My dontist (that's an EXPENSIVE specialist in the dental professions)
assures me that between the titanium pins and the chromium cobalt
platinum crowns these puppies will hold an edge for at least
another 35-40 years, short of chewing on diamonds (or corn nuts)
Re: painting and Pointy Sticks, only a barbarian would consider
putting paint on a real Pointy Stick - gnawed paintbrush
sticks maybe but not on a real Pointy Stick
It's been a hectic last 6 days and when I skip my naps sleep
deprivation starts having its affects/effects (?) Does that
explain the origin of this thread?
charlie b
I've decided to make a Pointy Stick, and I've got the following
questions/comments:
Should I buy a Stanley No. 5 off E-bay, or slap down the cash for a
Lie-Nielsen? Or get one of Steve Knight's?
Has JOAT posted free plans for a Pointy Stick, or do I have to buy the
plans?
Will SWMBO want her own Pointy Stick after she sees mine?
What kind of Pointy Stick would Tage Frid/Krenov/Tom Plamann come up with?
What kind of lighting/heating/dust collection system should I put in my shop
to make Pointy Sticks?
Has Tom Watson written any hilarious stories about Pointy Sticks?
Where can I get custom-made brass hardware for my Pointy Stick?
Will LROD correct my usage of capitalization when I write "Pointy Stick"?
I went to the local woodworker's show to see the Pointy Stick stuff and
thought the admission and parking fee were too high.
Do I HAVE to use quarter-sawn oak to make a Craftsman-style Pointy Stick?
I think we ought to call Pointy Sticks "Pointed Sticks". It sounds less
foo-foo.
I've been putting copious amounts of Danish oil on my Pointed Stick for
several days and its all gooey. What did I do wrong?
While I was making an Pointy Stick, I had a kick-back on my table saw and
the Pointy Stick got thrown back through my mid-section and skewered me to
the shop wall. What should I do now? (Pics on ABPW)
What kind of wood is this Pointy Stick made out of? (Pics on ABPW)
I just finished a Pointy Stick for my first
daughter/son/grandaughter/grandson/&tc.!!!!! (Pics on ABPW).
Does Puppy Wizard know what Pointy Sticks are for?
I though I saw a Pointy Stick project described in Shopnotes. Has Krunchy
posted them in ABPW yet?
Mon, Feb 28, 2005, 12:28am (EST+5) [email protected]
(J.B.=A0Bobbitt) asks:
<snip> Has JOAT posted free plans for a Pointy Stick, or do I have to
buy the plans? <snip>
I figure you guys are dangerous enough, without me contributing to
your delinquincy. No atom bomb plans, no pointy stick plans.
JOAT
Intellectual brilliance is no guarantee against being dead wrong.
- David Fasold
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 17:03:45 -0800, charlie b <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>One of the subcategories of Pointy Sticks is the version designed
>specifically for pressing into "tablets" made of a special mix
>of dirts and water. These Impressing Sticks and the impressions
>they left in ancient "tablets" served as the inspiration for
>The Impressionist Movement 7,000 +/- years later.
Sorry Charlie (did I just say that out loud?) but this conflicts with
my own theory on Impressionism, particularly in the regard of those
such as Degas, Cezanne, Renoir, Matisse, Monet, et al, who suffered,
in my firm opinion from poor eyesight, and thought that they were
doing Realism, thus inventing an entire school of visual artwork,
based entirely on the inability to see clearly.
As proof, I offer you the thought that, were I a painter, which I am
not, and were I to paint without having my glasses on, which I would
not, even if I could, I would paint a faithful representation of the
world as I perceived it; unclear, diaphanous, distorted, pastel, and
preposterous.
I am surprised that the art critics have not taken my point.
Thomas J. Watson - WoodDorker
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1 (webpage)
"jo4hn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> charlie b wrote:
>> Over the years, there have been many inquiries to The Wreck regarding
>> Pointy Sticks and a vast wealth of information about Pointy Sticks is
>> scattered all over hell. Id like to create a compendium of that
>> information and put it all on an easily accesiible web site before it
>> gets lost for all times. If you, or anyone you know, would like to
>> contribute to this compendium or have answers to any of the following
>> questions - please either e-mail them to me or post them here with the
>> subject line The Pointy Stick Compendium Project. Thank you for any
>> assistance you can provide with this matter.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely
>>
>>
>> charlie b
>>
>> Director
> [snip of funny stuff]
>
> Great idea. But don't forget those of us who have purchased an "el
> cheapo" at Harbor Fright/Northern Tool/Canadian Tire for a buck two
> ninety-eight. It won't last as long as the PC/PM/yellow tool version but
> may be only slightly worse than the Griz PS5500. Or should I have gone
> with the guy at the Borg's advice and bought the Binford R60?
>
The Binford R60?
Wasn't that rcommended by Tim the Toolman Taylor?
"Tom Watson" wrote in message
> Sorry Charlie (did I just say that out loud?) but this conflicts with
> my own theory on Impressionism, particularly in the regard of those
> such as Degas, Cezanne, Renoir, Matisse, Monet, et al, who suffered,
> in my firm opinion from poor eyesight, and thought that they were
> doing Realism, thus inventing an entire school of visual artwork,
> based entirely on the inability to see clearly.
>
> As proof, I offer you the thought that, were I a painter, which I am
> not, and were I to paint without having my glasses on, which I would
> not, even if I could, I would paint a faithful representation of the
> world as I perceived it; unclear, diaphanous, distorted, pastel, and
> preposterous.
>
> I am surprised that the art critics have not taken my point.
>
Well spoken Tom (as usual). What you have not taken into account is the fact
that the art critics (like all of us) can become blinded to anything that
comes from outside their specific profession. Well, maybe not blinded so
much as myopic ... which brings us back to your point (errr pointy stick??).
All too often, here on the wreck, we find opinions challenged almost to the
point of drawing blood. Happily, some reason prevails, and educated
explainations show a workable alternative to the blood, gore, and mayhem
often suggested. Glad you provide a great deal of that positive commentary.
Now ... where did I put my glasses?
Rick
It is not necessary to understand things in order to argue about them --
Beaumarchais
"gw" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> "Military officials, on condition of anonymity, revealed that although no
> pointy sticks were discovered, caches of material were found which are
> commonly used in the manufacture of pointy sticks. These materials,
> purchased in blunt form, can quickly be assembled into deadly weapons.
> Also,
> several underground bunkers have been discovered. Crews are still
> searching
> for residue from the pointing process. Iraq is known to have harbored
> several expert stick pointers from the former Soviet Union. The CIA, while
> denying the report, states only that they had 'Reliable and credible
> intelligence' that stick pointing was widespread - clearly in violation of
> the UN's PSMD resolution."
>
The definition of PSMD is so vague that the resolution could never be
upheld. If you look close enough, I'd be willing to bet you could find
pointy sticks in your own backyard. I think this is clearly a ploy to occupy
Iraq and seize control over resources such as the falafel. Iraqi cuisine is
inspired by Turkish, Iranian and even French influences - you'd have to be
blind not to see this so-called conspiracy. But I digress.
We have to get the pointy sticks off our own streets before we worry about
Iraq. Just the other day I saw a 9 or 10 year old boy parading around the
neighbourhood with a pointy stick. Nothing good can come from a pointy stick
yet we have "collectors" even protesting against the Canadian Pointy Stick
Registry. I can appreciate a good pointy stick when I see one, remember that
one Tom Plamann mocked up from MDF for a customer? A work of art but
remember, pointy sticks are only used to hurt people.
-Brian
Do I need a dado set to make my pointy stick? Which is the best dado set
for this? Should I get an 8 inch for a longer pointy stick?
"Wood Butcher" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Great start Charlie.
> Here's a few more.
>
> How do I stain my pine pointy stick to look like cherry?
> Is wipe-on poly good for pointy sticks?
> Can I BBQ with my pointy stick and what oil should I use so it is food
safe?
> Do I need Norms duplicator lathe to make a pointy stick?
> If I take my pointy stick to Europe will it work on their electricity?
> What kind of pointy stick does GW Bush have?
> Pointy sticks are dangerous and legislation is needed to force the use of
the new
> "Point Stop" technology.
> My pointy stick is in .rar format and I can't see it. What do I do?
> Hi. First time poster here. What's a pointy stick?
>
> Art
>
>
> "charlie b" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> Over the years, there have been many inquiries to The Wreck regarding
> Pointy Sticks and a vast wealth of information about Pointy Sticks is
> scattered all over hell. I'd like to create a compendium of that
> information and put it all on an easily accesiible web site before it
> gets lost for all times. If you, or anyone you know, would like to
> contribute to this compendium or have answers to any of the following
> questions - please either e-mail them to me or post them here with the
> subject line "The Pointy Stick Compendium Project".
>
> Thank you for any assistance you can provide with this matter.
>
>
> Sincerely
>
>
> charlie b
>
>
>
charlie b wrote:
> Over the years, there have been many inquiries to The Wreck regarding
> Pointy Sticks and a vast wealth of information about Pointy Sticks is
> scattered all over hell. Id like to create a compendium of that
> information and put it all on an easily accesiible web site before it
> gets lost for all times. If you, or anyone you know, would like to
> contribute to this compendium or have answers to any of the following
> questions - please either e-mail them to me or post them here with the
> subject line The Pointy Stick Compendium Project.
>
> Thank you for any assistance you can provide with this matter.
>
>
> Sincerely
>
>
> charlie b
>
> Director
[snip of funny stuff]
Great idea. But don't forget those of us who have purchased an "el
cheapo" at Harbor Fright/Northern Tool/Canadian Tire for a buck two
ninety-eight. It won't last as long as the PC/PM/yellow tool version
but may be only slightly worse than the Griz PS5500. Or should I have
gone with the guy at the Borg's advice and bought the Binford R60?
mahalo,
jo4hn
Mark & Juanita wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 20:20:16 -0500, Tom Watson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 17:03:45 -0800, charlie b <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>One of the subcategories of Pointy Sticks is the version designed
>>>specifically for pressing into "tablets" made of a special mix
>>>of dirts and water. These Impressing Sticks and the impressions
>>>they left in ancient "tablets" served as the inspiration for
>>>The Impressionist Movement 7,000 +/- years later.
>>
>>
>>Sorry Charlie (did I just say that out loud?) but this conflicts with
>>my own theory on Impressionism, particularly in the regard of those
>>such as Degas, Cezanne, Renoir, Matisse, Monet, et al, who suffered,
>>in my firm opinion from poor eyesight, and thought that they were
>>doing Realism, thus inventing an entire school of visual artwork,
>>based entirely on the inability to see clearly.
>>
>>As proof, I offer you the thought that, were I a painter, which I am
>>not, and were I to paint without having my glasses on, which I would
>>not, even if I could, I would paint a faithful representation of the
>>world as I perceived it; unclear, diaphanous, distorted, pastel, and
>>preposterous.
>>
>>I am surprised that the art critics have not taken my point.
>>
>
>
> Tom, did you ever read Poul Anderson? One of his books (Goblin
> Reservation) included a character, an artist, that in the history of the
> story's era was remembered for having started his career as an artist with
> realism, but later in his life was credited with painting bizarre,
> surrealistic fantasies.
"Goblin Reservation" was written by Clifford Simiak.
(All together now:
"Hurrah for old Bill Shakespeare
he never wrote them plays.
Just stayed at home, while chasing girls
sand dirty rondelays.")
--RC
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 23:11:19 -0600, the inscrutable Australopithecus
scobis <[email protected]> spake:
>On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 21:41:21 -0700, Mark & Juanita wrote:
>
>> Alright, back on topic. I'm having trouble getting my pointy stick
>> dimensions correct. Seems I keep screwing up the fractions; would I be
>> better off converting to metric to make better pointy sticks?
>
>It's easy. Forget the fractions. Use a pointy story stick for all your
>measurements. This method also works well when restoring old, odd-sized
>pointy sticks, such as Chippednail and Shortenone antiques.
Purists such as myself do not feel that pointing a traditional story
sticks is at all apropos. We'll have nothing to do with yours, TYVM.
--
Remember: Every silver lining has a cloud.
----
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charlie b <[email protected]> writes:
> Pointy Stick Compendium Project
LOL!! I think you should make this a FAQ
--
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Tom Watson wrote:
> Ahh, the good old days.
>
> Can't you just see yourself sitting at the table and saying to SWMBO,
> "Mmmm, good mammoth!"
>
> And how cozy it must have been, on one of those frosty tundra
> mornings, to put on a nice warm mammoth turtleneck. Itchy, sure, and
> a little funky on damp days, but very stylish.
I think I see your problem: You're supposed to skin the mammoth first.
Chuck Vance (Mr. Helpful)
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1109612064.634a6c73e9f3df24ea07c4adc5d279cf@teranews...
> On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 09:21:41 -0800, "TeamCasa" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
> >
> >UP/API
> >The new Point Stick, weapon of choice for terrorists world wide in banned
in
> >US and Canada. US increases border security specifically to enforce
AB9966.
> >The bill bans all pointed weapons. Knitting groups organize and
overthrow
> >the government. President Hillary Clinton is impeached and leaves in
> >disgrace.
> >
>
>
> "Government sources announced today that the search for pointy sticks
> has ended in Iraq. Administration officials refused comment when
> asked how the CIA report on PSMD, which had precipitated the invasion,
> could be so horribly flawed."
>
>
"Military officials, on condition of anonymity, revealed that although no
pointy sticks were discovered, caches of material were found which are
commonly used in the manufacture of pointy sticks. These materials,
purchased in blunt form, can quickly be assembled into deadly weapons. Also,
several underground bunkers have been discovered. Crews are still searching
for residue from the pointing process. Iraq is known to have harbored
several expert stick pointers from the former Soviet Union. The CIA, while
denying the report, states only that they had 'Reliable and credible
intelligence' that stick pointing was widespread - clearly in violation of
the UN's PSMD resolution."
In article <[email protected]>,
Mark & Juanita <[email protected]> wrote:
> Alright, back on topic. I'm having trouble getting my pointy stick
> dimensions correct. Seems I keep screwing up the fractions; would I be
> better off converting to metric to make better pointy sticks?
Allllright. if you must know...*shakes head*
use this to make one...
http://www.nemi.com/product-pictures/digitizer%20telescoping.htm
In article <[email protected]>,
jo4hn <[email protected]> wrote:
> charlie b wrote:
> > Over the years, there have been many inquiries to The Wreck regarding
> > Pointy Sticks and a vast wealth of information about Pointy Sticks is
> > scattered all over hell. I¹d like to create a compendium of that
> > information and put it all on an easily accesiible web site before it
> > gets lost for all times. If you, or anyone you know, would like to
> > contribute to this compendium or have answers to any of the following
> > questions - please either e-mail them to me or post them here with the
> > subject line ³The Pointy Stick Compendium Project².
> >
> > Thank you for any assistance you can provide with this matter.
> >
> >
> > Sincerely
> >
> >
> > charlie b
> >
> > Director
> [snip of funny stuff]
>
> Great idea. But don't forget those of us who have purchased an "el
> cheapo" at Harbor Fright/Northern Tool/Canadian Tire for a buck two
> ninety-eight. It won't last as long as the PC/PM/yellow tool version
> but may be only slightly worse than the Griz PS5500. Or should I have
> gone with the guy at the Borg's advice and bought the Binford R60?
>
> mahalo,
> jo4hn
I generally suggest to consider the Fesstoolwerks Pfointy Schtick from
Germany. Not only does it have a 3 year warranty, it has two, count'em,
TWO ends. AFAIK, they are the only company who make oxygen free pointy
sticks.
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 21:34:45 +0000, "Luigi Zanasi" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Not only did the pointy stick allow them to feed themselves by murdering
>the mighty mammoth and other gentle tundra creatures, but also to clothe
>themselves with their skins.
Ahh, the good old days.
Can't you just see yourself sitting at the table and saying to SWMBO,
"Mmmm, good mammoth!"
And how cozy it must have been, on one of those frosty tundra
mornings, to put on a nice warm mammoth turtleneck. Itchy, sure, and
a little funky on damp days, but very stylish.
Thomas J. Watson - WoodDorker
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1 (webpage)
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 19:17:54 -0700, Bruce <[email protected]> wrote:
... snip
>>
>> I though I saw a Pointy Stick project described in Shopnotes. Has Krunchy
>> posted them in ABPW yet?
>>
>>
>>
>
>Beware, ATF regulations require you to register said pointy stick and equip
>it with a serial number. Resale of pointy stick is unlawful!
That's only true in Massachussetts, New York City, and some areas of
California. In other states, following approved training, one can obtain a
PSCCP (Pointy-stick concealed carry permit).
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
The absence of accidents does not mean the presence of safety
Army General Richard Cody
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Luigi Zanasi wrote:
>The much derided humble pointy stick truly deserves whatever paean we give
>it. It is at the base of all our human achievements, including the murder
>of animals, plants and other humans and hence responsible for our
>civilization. Ultimately, all our tools are merely extensions of the
>pointy stick.
How else can you make a goad and what's being on the wreck
if you don't have a freshly pointed goad?
UA100
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 14:59:47 -0500, [email protected] (J T) wrote:
>Sun, Feb 27, 2005, 8:18am (EST-3) [email protected] (charlie b)
>says:
>Over the years, there have been many inquiries to The Wreck regarding
>Pointy Sticks <snip>
>
> Just remember, someone is always going to be careless.
>http://www.castleofspirits.com/impaled.gif
>
>
That seems to fall along the lines of "just remember, someone will always
figure out a way to mis-use what is built. Try the following for someone
being careless, even the originator of the pointy-stick gets careless.
<http://www.ezee-life.com/powerpoint/beaver.pps>
>
>JOAT
>Intellectual brilliance is no guarantee against being dead wrong.
>- David Fasold
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
The absence of accidents does not mean the presence of safety
Army General Richard Cody
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 20:20:16 -0500, Tom Watson <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 17:03:45 -0800, charlie b <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>One of the subcategories of Pointy Sticks is the version designed
>>specifically for pressing into "tablets" made of a special mix
>>of dirts and water. These Impressing Sticks and the impressions
>>they left in ancient "tablets" served as the inspiration for
>>The Impressionist Movement 7,000 +/- years later.
>
>
>Sorry Charlie (did I just say that out loud?) but this conflicts with
>my own theory on Impressionism, particularly in the regard of those
>such as Degas, Cezanne, Renoir, Matisse, Monet, et al, who suffered,
>in my firm opinion from poor eyesight, and thought that they were
>doing Realism, thus inventing an entire school of visual artwork,
>based entirely on the inability to see clearly.
>
>As proof, I offer you the thought that, were I a painter, which I am
>not, and were I to paint without having my glasses on, which I would
>not, even if I could, I would paint a faithful representation of the
>world as I perceived it; unclear, diaphanous, distorted, pastel, and
>preposterous.
>
>I am surprised that the art critics have not taken my point.
>
Tom, did you ever read Poul Anderson? One of his books (Goblin
Reservation) included a character, an artist, that in the history of the
story's era was remembered for having started his career as an artist with
realism, but later in his life was credited with painting bizarre,
surrealistic fantasies.
In the story, turns out the artist only painted what he witnessed -- he
had travelled back in time to an era when intergalactic travellers that
were goblins, trolls, fairies, and a dragon had inhabited earth.
Not exactly Descartes, but it was a fun book.
>
>
>Thomas J. Watson - WoodDorker
>
>tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
>http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1 (webpage)
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
The absence of accidents does not mean the presence of safety
Army General Richard Cody
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 14:57:09 -0500, "gw" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:1109612064.634a6c73e9f3df24ea07c4adc5d279cf@teranews...
>> On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 09:21:41 -0800, "TeamCasa" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> >
>> >UP/API
>> >The new Point Stick, weapon of choice for terrorists world wide in banned
>in
>> >US and Canada. US increases border security specifically to enforce
>AB9966.
>> >The bill bans all pointed weapons. Knitting groups organize and
>overthrow
>> >the government. President Hillary Clinton is impeached and leaves in
>> >disgrace.
>> >
>>
>>
>> "Government sources announced today that the search for pointy sticks
>> has ended in Iraq. Administration officials refused comment when
>> asked how the CIA report on PSMD, which had precipitated the invasion,
>> could be so horribly flawed."
>>
>>
>"Military officials, on condition of anonymity, revealed that although no
>pointy sticks were discovered, caches of material were found which are
>commonly used in the manufacture of pointy sticks. These materials,
>purchased in blunt form, can quickly be assembled into deadly weapons. Also,
>several underground bunkers have been discovered. Crews are still searching
>for residue from the pointing process. Iraq is known to have harbored
>several expert stick pointers from the former Soviet Union. The CIA, while
>denying the report, states only that they had 'Reliable and credible
>intelligence' that stick pointing was widespread - clearly in violation of
>the UN's PSMD resolution."
>
Dis be funny.
:-)...
Thomas J. Watson - WoodDorker
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1 (webpage)
For the sake of reduced bandwidth, might I suggest dividing the
compendium in half? One volume for right handed and one for left
handed pointy sticks?
--
Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
[email protected]
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 17:03:45 -0800, charlie b <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I tried to introduce a serious woodworking topic and look where
>it's gone!
... snip of letter making me hang my head in shame, I'm guilty, forgive me!
>Please people - try and stay on topic.
>
>charlie b
>Editor
>The Pointy Stick Compendium Project
Alright, back on topic. I'm having trouble getting my pointy stick
dimensions correct. Seems I keep screwing up the fractions; would I be
better off converting to metric to make better pointy sticks?
[There, is that better?]
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
The absence of accidents does not mean the presence of safety
Army General Richard Cody
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 17:03:45 -0800, charlie b <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I'm also developing a hypothesis that the paintbrush evolved
>from the Gnawed Pointy Stick, Gnawing predating both
>the Rubbed and Whittled Pointy Stick manufacturing
>techniques. I'm still gathering the data to support my
>hypothesis and hope to publish sometime early next year.
if your teeth hold out?
On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 04:55:35 GMT, Rick Cook <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Mark & Juanita wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 20:20:16 -0500, Tom Watson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 17:03:45 -0800, charlie b <[email protected]>
>>>wrote:
... snip
>>
>> Tom, did you ever read Poul Anderson? One of his books (Goblin
>> Reservation) included a character, an artist, that in the history of the
>> story's era was remembered for having started his career as an artist with
>> realism, but later in his life was credited with painting bizarre,
>> surrealistic fantasies.
>
>"Goblin Reservation" was written by Clifford Simiak.
DOH! [smacks head]. OK, I'm getting old, now I can't even keep things
straight from my mis-spent youth. Thanks for the reminder -- Simak was
another of my favorite authors.
>(All together now:
>"Hurrah for old Bill Shakespeare
>he never wrote them plays.
>Just stayed at home, while chasing girls
>sand dirty rondelays.")
>
>--RC
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
The absence of accidents does not mean the presence of safety
Army General Richard Cody
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
"J.B. Bobbitt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've decided to make a Pointy Stick, and I've got the following
> questions/comments:
>
> Should I buy a Stanley No. 5 off E-bay, or slap down the cash for a
> Lie-Nielsen? Or get one of Steve Knight's?
>
> Has JOAT posted free plans for a Pointy Stick, or do I have to buy the
> plans?
>
> Will SWMBO want her own Pointy Stick after she sees mine?
>
> What kind of Pointy Stick would Tage Frid/Krenov/Tom Plamann come up with?
>
> What kind of lighting/heating/dust collection system should I put in my
shop
> to make Pointy Sticks?
>
> Has Tom Watson written any hilarious stories about Pointy Sticks?
>
> Where can I get custom-made brass hardware for my Pointy Stick?
>
> Will LROD correct my usage of capitalization when I write "Pointy Stick"?
>
> I went to the local woodworker's show to see the Pointy Stick stuff and
> thought the admission and parking fee were too high.
>
> Do I HAVE to use quarter-sawn oak to make a Craftsman-style Pointy Stick?
>
> I think we ought to call Pointy Sticks "Pointed Sticks". It sounds less
> foo-foo.
>
> I've been putting copious amounts of Danish oil on my Pointed Stick for
> several days and its all gooey. What did I do wrong?
>
> While I was making an Pointy Stick, I had a kick-back on my table saw and
> the Pointy Stick got thrown back through my mid-section and skewered me to
> the shop wall. What should I do now? (Pics on ABPW)
>
> What kind of wood is this Pointy Stick made out of? (Pics on ABPW)
>
> I just finished a Pointy Stick for my first
> daughter/son/grandaughter/grandson/&tc.!!!!! (Pics on ABPW).
>
> Does Puppy Wizard know what Pointy Sticks are for?
>
> I though I saw a Pointy Stick project described in Shopnotes. Has Krunchy
> posted them in ABPW yet?
>
>
I think we should split the group...
rec.woodworking.havemadeptystick
rec.woodworking.havenotmadeptystick
Perhaps we can discuss moderating it at the same time...
TTFN
>"Tom Watson" wrote in message
>
>> Sorry Charlie (did I just say that out loud?) but this conflicts with
>> my own theory on Impressionism, particularly in the regard of those
>> such as Degas, Cezanne, Renoir, Matisse, Monet, et al, who suffered,
>> in my firm opinion from poor eyesight, and thought that they were
>> doing Realism, thus inventing an entire school of visual artwork,
>> based entirely on the inability to see clearly.
>>
>> As proof, I offer you the thought that, were I a painter, which I am
>> not, and were I to paint without having my glasses on, which I would
>> not, even if I could, I would paint a faithful representation of the
>> world as I perceived it; unclear, diaphanous, distorted, pastel, and
>> preposterous.
>>
>> I am surprised that the art critics have not taken my point.
'tis a good thing you're *not* a painter. Nothing worse than painting a
pointy stick and thus ruining it's natural beauty.
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On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 20:45:06 -0500, Tom Watson wrote:
> Would that glory which was Rome have been so glorious without the pointy
> stick to stake the tents of its vast armies?
>
> Did not the Pre-Socratics base their sacred geometry, resulting in the
> golden mean, on the first iterations of the pointy stick?
Let us not forget the skewering of countless barbarians by the Roman
legions. Or for that matter, the post-Socratic uses of pointy sticks by
the Macedonian phalanxes.
> And the very Egyptians, themselves, contemplating the true point of a
> properly rendered pointy stick; did they not acquire their understanding
> of the pyramids through careful consideration of its geometrical
> pointyness?
We also need to credit the creators of the pointy stick, the original
Neandertals, whose [who's in wreckspeak] Mousterian tools, scientists have
discovered through microwear analysis, mainly show evidence of
wooddorking.
Not only did the pointy stick allow them to feed themselves by murdering
the mighty mammoth and other gentle tundra creatures, but also to clothe
themselves with their skins.
Nor should we forget the use of the pointy stick in the development of
agriculture where it was used both to plant seeds and harvest root crops.
The much derided humble pointy stick truly deserves whatever paean we give
it. It is at the base of all our human achievements, including the murder
of animals, plants and other humans and hence responsible for our
civilization. Ultimately, all our tools are merely extensions of the
pointy stick.
--
Luigi
Replace "nonet" with "yukonomics" for real email
www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/humour.html
www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/antifaq.html
Sun, Feb 27, 2005, 9:34pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Luigi=A0Zanasi)
says:
Let us not forget the skewering of countless barbarians by the Roman
legions. Or for that matter, the post-Socratic uses of pointy sticks by
the Macedonian phalanxes. <snip>
You don't even need to go that far back in history to see what the
politicians will do once they get the opportunity.
http://www.castleofspirits.com/vlad.html
JOAT
Intellectual brilliance is no guarantee against being dead wrong.
- David Fasold
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 21:41:21 -0700, Mark & Juanita wrote:
> Alright, back on topic. I'm having trouble getting my pointy stick
> dimensions correct. Seems I keep screwing up the fractions; would I be
> better off converting to metric to make better pointy sticks?
It's easy. Forget the fractions. Use a pointy story stick for all your
measurements. This method also works well when restoring old, odd-sized
pointy sticks, such as Chippednail and Shortenone antiques.
--
"Keep your ass behind you"
vladimir a t mad {dot} scientist {dot} com
On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 05:51:36 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote:
> Purists such as myself do not feel that pointing a traditional story
> sticks is at all apropos. We'll have nothing to do with yours, TYVM.
Ah, my mistake, should have been "pointy stick story stick." Although, one
could store a pointy story stick with its point stuck in a pointy hole.
But that's another story.
--
"Keep your ass behind you"
vladimir a t mad {dot} scientist {dot} com
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 21:34:45 +0000, the inscrutable "Luigi Zanasi"
<[email protected]> spake:
>Not only did the pointy stick allow them to feed themselves by murdering
>the mighty mammoth and other gentle tundra creatures, but also to clothe
>themselves with their skins.
Ah, so the pointy stick is to blame for the lack of nekkid wimmenz
around today. That shows the dualistic nature of the beast. It can
be used for good or evil.
>Nor should we forget the use of the pointy stick in the development of
>agriculture where it was used both to plant seeds and harvest root crops.
>
>The much derided humble pointy stick truly deserves whatever paean we give
>it. It is at the base of all our human achievements, including the murder
>of animals, plants and other humans and hence responsible for our
>civilization. Ultimately, all our tools are merely extensions of the
>pointy stick.
Y'know, he also forgot tooth-pointysticks. (charlie, how COULD you?)
--
"Menja bé, caga fort!"
On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 04:55:35 GMT, the inscrutable Rick Cook
<[email protected]> spake:
>"Goblin Reservation" was written by Clifford Simiak.
Simak. I read some of Clifford's novels back in high school
but I don't recall which. I'll have to look the old bloke up
at the library the next time I'm there.
>(All together now:
>"Hurrah for old Bill Shakespeare
>he never wrote them plays.
>Just stayed at home, while chasing girls
>sand dirty rondelays.")
Drop that "s" on the last line of Uncle Bill's ditty, will ya?
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Remember: Every silver lining has a cloud.
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 09:23:45 -0800, the inscrutable charlie b
<[email protected]> spake:
>Jerry S. wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > > Alright, back on topic...
>> >
>>
>> Please include instructions for making my pointy stick scary sharp.
>
>
> That's "Scary Sharp (tm)"! You DO NOT want to get on the wrong
Puhleeeze, that's "ScarySharp(tm)"!
> side of the Scary Sharp (tm) copyright infringement lawyers.
> If you think Coca Cola (tm) protects their brand name wait ''til
> you piss off the Scary Sharp (tm) boys!
See above.
> Now back on topic - the History of The Pointy Stick chapter:
>
> FOX "News" is reporting that the Southern Fundamentalist
> Evangelical Judeo-Christian Conference is in the process
> of "correcting" Genesis based on a new scroll found near
> The Really Dead Sea. Early translations are suggesting
> that the actual text reads "On the Seventh Day HE rested,
> sitting on the steps of HIS front porch - whittling a Pointy
> Stick. And it was good."
God is pissed and is she ever gonna make the Prez. pay for it.
> Now a word from eight of our sponsors.
>
> Hemroids? Have you tried Merk's new Pointy Stick
> Hemroid Treatment (tm)? Ask your doctor about Pointy
> Stick Hermroid Treatment (tm).
> (not available as an Over The Counter treatment. Void
> where prohibited by law. Side affects may include
> excessive bleading, excrutiating "discomfort", blurred
> vision and disrupted lower gastro-intenstinal function.
Catherwood recommends Loosener's Castor Oil Flakes, The All-Weather
Breakfast!
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 08:45:49 -0600, the inscrutable Conan the
Librarian <[email protected]> spake:
>Tom Watson wrote:
>
>> Ahh, the good old days.
>>
>> Can't you just see yourself sitting at the table and saying to SWMBO,
>> "Mmmm, good mammoth!"
>>
>> And how cozy it must have been, on one of those frosty tundra
>> mornings, to put on a nice warm mammoth turtleneck. Itchy, sure, and
>> a little funky on damp days, but very stylish.
>
> I think I see your problem: You're supposed to skin the mammoth first.
> Chuck Vance (Mr. Helpful)
Yabbut, he wanted his "heavy coat" for the chilly Winter days.
--
"Menja bé, caga fort!"
Great start Charlie.
Here's a few more.
How do I stain my pine pointy stick to look like cherry?
Is wipe-on poly good for pointy sticks?
Can I BBQ with my pointy stick and what oil should I use so it is food safe?
Do I need Norms duplicator lathe to make a pointy stick?
If I take my pointy stick to Europe will it work on their electricity?
What kind of pointy stick does GW Bush have?
Pointy sticks are dangerous and legislation is needed to force the use of the new
"Point Stop" technology.
My pointy stick is in .rar format and I can't see it. What do I do?
Hi. First time poster here. What's a pointy stick?
Art
"charlie b" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Over the years, there have been many inquiries to The Wreck regarding
Pointy Sticks and a vast wealth of information about Pointy Sticks is
scattered all over hell. I'd like to create a compendium of that
information and put it all on an easily accesiible web site before it
gets lost for all times. If you, or anyone you know, would like to
contribute to this compendium or have answers to any of the following
questions - please either e-mail them to me or post them here with the
subject line "The Pointy Stick Compendium Project".
Thank you for any assistance you can provide with this matter.
Sincerely
charlie b
"charlie b" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Over the years, there have been many inquiries to The Wreck regarding
> Pointy Sticks and a vast wealth of information about Pointy Sticks is
> scattered all over hell. I'd like to create a compendium of that
> information and put it all on an easily accesiible web site before it
> gets lost for all times. If you, or anyone you know, would like to
> contribute to this compendium or have answers to any of the following
> questions - please either e-mail them to me or post them here with the
> subject line "The Pointy Stick Compendium Project".
>
> Thank you for any assistance you can provide with this matter.
>
>
> Sincerely
>
>
> charlie b
>
> Director
> The
> Pointy Stick Compendium Project
>
>
> - Where can I find plans for a [ _______ ] Pointy Stick ?
> point on the top
> point on the bottom
> point on the left end
> point on the right end
> right handed
> left handed
> -Whats the best way to make Pointy Sticks ?
> (I only have $9,000 budgeted for tools)
> - Anyone have plans for a jig to make Pointy Sticks that's:
> cheap?
> easy?
> "high precision"?
> - Where can I buy a jig to make Pointy Sticks
> that's cheap?
> that's easy to use?
> that is mirco adjustable?
> - What makes a good Pointy Stick good?
> how long should the point be?
> can The Golden Mean be applied to Pointy Stick design?
> should I put a micro point on my Pointy Stick?
> are Japanese laminated point Pointy Sticks worth the extra money?
> - Who makes the best Pointy Stick and why?
> - Should I try and find a Pointy Stick at a flea market and
> restore it or should I just bite the bullet and order a
> LIe NIelsen Pointy Stick?
> - Has anyone seen or actually used the new Veritas Pointy Stick?
> - What wood should I use for my Pointy Stick?
> hard hardwood?
> soft hardwood?
> hard softwood?
> soft softwood?
> what about laminated Pointy Sticks?
> - Is Grain Orientation important for Pointy Sticks and, if so,
> how should the grain be oriented relative to the long axis
> of the Pointy Stick?
> - Is fire hardening the tip worth it?
> - Is it really necessary to polish the tip of my Pointy Stick
> or can I stop at 6000 grit?
> - Should I put a finish on my Pointed Stick and, if so,
> what is the best finish to use on my Pointy Stick?
> - My Pointy Stick split. Any way to repair it or should I just
> start all over?
> - I picked up a Pointy Stick at a garage sale/ was given my
> great great great grandfather's / grandmother's Pointy Stick/
> dug up an old Pointy Stick while digging a new outhouse
> hole / dug up an old Pointy Stick while searching for bottles
> in an OLD outhouse hole:
> where can I find a manual for it?
> how do I get the dirt/paint/motor oil/blood/? off / out of it?
> anyone know how to tell the age of a Pointy Stick?
> is there anyway to find out who made it?
> - Where do you get ideas for your Pointy Sticks
> - Who, in your opinion, was, or is, the best Pointy Stick maker
> - Opinions of Gary Knox Bennett's Pointy Sticks
> - Has James Krenov ever made a Pointy Stick
>
> Please feel free to add to this list and/or answer any of the
> above questions.
>
> Here's a footnote from The Origins of the Pointy Stick section
> of the compendium
>
> *1 Whittting: a fundamentalist form of woodworking. Practioners are
> known as Widdlers in South Eastern North America, Whittlers in most of
> the rest of North America except parts of eastern Canada, Whytthlaeres
> in England, Witliers in Frahnz and the eastern parts of Canada,
> Dasdudeseinsliecendevoodmiteinkniphenteule in the former Austrian Empire
> and "squiggly line, two dots, a slashing curved line with a hook on the
> end and three dots over it" in Arabic
>
> Whittlers predate The Era of Roy. Some Poiinty Stick historians believe
> the Whittlers were themselves predated by the Stone Rubbers and a theory
> is developing which involves "gnawing" and the use of prehistoric beaver
> teeth as tools. Beavers are thought to be the inspiration for the
> Pointy Stick Concept.
As SWMBO won't let me spend money on tools or materials anymore, I had to
devise a workaround for my pointy stick ...
1. Buy popsicle
2. Eat popsicle
3. Rub popsicle stick sides on sidewalk until point is achieved
4. Reverse and repeat for double-headed pointy stick
5. Stain to desired finish (popsicle colouring may alter stain)
YMMV
charlie b wrote:
> Has anyone experienced a "point back" or "stick back"
> when "poking", "scratching", "impressing" or "picking"?
> If so, have you figured out what went wrong and maybe
> what can be done to prevent it from happening again?
Common problems. I've just filed a patent for a device called
StickStop consisting of a teflon coated cowhide stretched over a
wooden disk - on the back of which I've attached a handle and a
forearm strap.
I expect to be filthy rich after selling only seven of these devices.
I'm having a bit of difficulty convincing the teflon to adhere to
the cowhide, so it may be a while before I can fulfill your
order. I am, however, encouraging everyone to preorder to
minimize the wait and to help pay for solving our production
difficulties.
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/solar.html