TW

Tom Watson

31/12/2004 7:59 PM

Wrecklish - A Guide For The Non-Native Speaker

Wrecklish - A Guide For The Non-Native Speaker

"Planner", "Planar", "Planer" - All of these refer to a machine that
is used to thickness and surface lumber. They may be used
interchangeably but the local preference is for "Planner". Some would
insist that a good "Planner" would make his infeed and outfeed
"Planar" with the bed of the "Planer" but these sorts don't last long
around here.

"Jointer", "Joiner" - Also terms that can be swapped indiscriminately
without fear of reprisal. To those who would say that a "Joiner" can
use a "Jointer" but that most "Jointers" lack the intellect to use a
"Joiner" properly, most Wreckers would merely say, "Feh!".

"Mantel", "Mantle" - This one is obviously a fielder's choice although
the origin is cloaked in mystery. It is said by some that a "Joiner"
may wear a "Mantle" whilst building a "Mantel", while one who would
wear a "Mantel" might have a Christ Complex, or at least be
uncomfortable at parties. Ancient references suggest that Mickey
Mantle, while capable of building a Mickey Mantel, could not construct
a Mickey Mantle, at least out of wood. Then again…

"Advice", "Advise", "Vice", "Vise" - Certainly all victims of the same
root structure, these are properly used as follows: "I went to the
Wreck to solicit "Advise" about the proper selection of a "Vice" and
having been "Adviced" by the cognoscenti, I avoided the "Vise" of
misapplication." Sparkling in its clarity, that.

"Board Foot", "Bored Foot" - Whilst one is a unit of measure equal to
144 cubic inches, the other is what happens to a pedestrial appendage
that is used as a hold down on the drill press. Which is which is a
matter of hot debate.

"Tenon", "Tendon" - While it is entirely proper to say "He severed his
"Tendon" while cutting his "Tenon", it is also perfectly fine to say
"He severed his "Tenon" while cutting his "Tendon". Don't worry about
this one it hardly ever comes up.

"SawStop" - A device which has been proven to make safe the cutting of
hotdogs on the tablesaw. The Hotdog, Wurst, Weiner and Kielbasa Cabal
is said to be pushing for its required use on all future tablesaws.

"Spontaneous Combustion" - A theory proposed by the those who insist
that dust collection piping that is made of plastic will lead
inevitably to shop explosions of nearly nuclear force. (cf:
parthenogenesis.)

"Norm", "Roy" - Greek gods cloaked in the motley of modern usage. The
"Normites" make use of "'Lecktricity" (see below) while the "Royds"
eschew all modern devices, save "BandAids", which are specifically
included in their rituals and are, in fact, the common sign of the
brethren, so that they may know each other at WoodDorking Shows.

"'Lecktricity" - Although thought to be in the firm grip of science by
most, Wreckers have proven this to be a fecund area of debate and
opinion. When soliciting "Advise" about "'Lecktricity", one must
always be sure that it is "UL Approved", rather than "URL Approved".

I must humbly beseech you to accept my apologies for the
incompleteness of this guide and reference. I would hope that Messr.
Eisan of Canukistan would enshrine this poor beginning in the Holy FAQ
as a living document - to be added to and amended as the members see
fit.



I remain, Your Obedient Servant In WoodDorking,



Regards,
Tom.

"People funny. Life a funny thing." Sonny Liston

Thomas J.Watson - Cabinetmaker (ret.)
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1


This topic has 25 replies

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to Tom Watson on 31/12/2004 7:59 PM

02/01/2005 5:14 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Tom Watson
<[email protected]> wrote:

> "Planner", "Planar", "Planer" - All of these refer to a machine that
> is used to thickness and surface lumber. They may be used
> interchangeably but the local preference is for "Planner". Some would
> insist that a good "Planner" would make his infeed and outfeed
> "Planar" with the bed of the "Planer" but these sorts don't last long
> around here.

According to Delta's sticker, I have a TP300 Planner, not a TP300
Planer as I thought. Never noticed before.

I can take a pic and post it if anyone needs proof.

;-)

SI

"Slowhand"

in reply to Tom Watson on 31/12/2004 7:59 PM

01/01/2005 10:39 AM


"Tom Watson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Wrecklish - A Guide For The Non-Native Speaker

> "Spontaneous Combustion" - A theory proposed by the those who insist
> that dust collection piping that is made of plastic will lead
> inevitably to shop explosions of nearly nuclear force. (cf:
> parthenogenesis.)

I read that somewhere on the internet so it must be true.

But you got me laughin pretty good here.

Now back to joining my mantle with tendons.
SH

TD

Tim Douglass

in reply to Tom Watson on 31/12/2004 7:59 PM

01/01/2005 9:04 PM

On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 22:29:33 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Norman D. Crow wrote:
>
>>> I can't believe I didn't see "rabbet vs rabbit"!
>>>
>> Don't forget to include "rebate" with them.
>
>Isn't that a real term? I can find tons of examples of it in the context of
>putting a "rebate" onto a frame, but I didn't find it in any of the three
>woodworking dictionaries I googled up. I've been operating under the
>impression that it was a real term. Have I been tricked by the
>semiliterate denizens of the Wreck? :)

I believe the real speakers of English (or the speakers of real
English) (or perhaps real English speakers) use "rebate" where we
would use "rabbet".

Tim Douglass

http://www.DouglassClan.com

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to Tom Watson on 31/12/2004 7:59 PM

01/01/2005 10:27 AM

Tom Watson posts:

>
>Wrecklish - A Guide For The Non-Native Speaker
>
>"Planner", "Planar", "Planer" - All of these refer to a machine that
>is used to thickness and surface lumber. They may be used
>interchangeably but the local preference is for "Planner". Some would
>insist that a good "Planner" would make his infeed and outfeed
>"Planar" with the bed of the "Planer" but these sorts don't last long
>around here.
>
>"Jointer", "Joiner" - Also terms that can be swapped indiscriminately
>without fear of reprisal. To those who would say that a "Joiner" can
>use a "Jointer" but that most "Jointers" lack the intellect to use a
>"Joiner" properly, most Wreckers would merely say, "Feh!".
>
>"Mantel", "Mantle" - This one is obviously a fielder's choice although
>the origin is cloaked in mystery. It is said by some that a "Joiner"
>may wear a "Mantle" whilst building a "Mantel", while one who would
>wear a "Mantel" might have a Christ Complex, or at least be
>uncomfortable at parties. Ancient references suggest that Mickey
>Mantle, while capable of building a Mickey Mantel, could not construct
>a Mickey Mantle, at least out of wood. Then again…
>
>"Advice", "Advise", "Vice", "Vise" - Certainly all victims of the same
>root structure, these are properly used as follows: "I went to the
>Wreck to solicit "Advise" about the proper selection of a "Vice" and
>having been "Adviced" by the cognoscenti, I avoided the "Vise" of
>misapplication." Sparkling in its clarity, that.
>
>"Board Foot", "Bored Foot" - Whilst one is a unit of measure equal to
>144 cubic inches, the other is what happens to a pedestrial appendage
>that is used as a hold down on the drill press. Which is which is a
>matter of hot debate.
>
>"Tenon", "Tendon" - While it is entirely proper to say "He severed his
>"Tendon" while cutting his "Tenon", it is also perfectly fine to say
>"He severed his "Tenon" while cutting his "Tendon". Don't worry about
>this one it hardly ever comes up.
>
>"SawStop" - A device which has been proven to make safe the cutting of
>hotdogs on the tablesaw. The Hotdog, Wurst, Weiner and Kielbasa Cabal
>is said to be pushing for its required use on all future tablesaws.
>
>"Spontaneous Combustion" - A theory proposed by the those who insist
>that dust collection piping that is made of plastic will lead
>inevitably to shop explosions of nearly nuclear force. (cf:
>parthenogenesis.)
>
>"Norm", "Roy" - Greek gods cloaked in the motley of modern usage. The
>"Normites" make use of "'Lecktricity" (see below) while the "Royds"
>eschew all modern devices, save "BandAids", which are specifically
>included in their rituals and are, in fact, the common sign of the
>brethren, so that they may know each other at WoodDorking Shows.
>
>"'Lecktricity" - Although thought to be in the firm grip of science by
>most, Wreckers have proven this to be a fecund area of debate and
>opinion. When soliciting "Advise" about "'Lecktricity", one must
>always be sure that it is "UL Approved", rather than "URL Approved".
>
>I must humbly beseech you to accept my apologies for the
>incompleteness of this guide and reference. I would hope that Messr.
>Eisan of Canukistan would enshrine this poor beginning in the Holy FAQ
>as a living document - to be added to and amended as the members see
>fit.

You missed on "isle" and "aisle", two wreck interchangeables that might confuse
the hell out of someone used to real life.

Ah, yes. "Straight" and "strait." Straits may be straight, but straightness is
not important to straits.
Charlie Self
"A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to
the ground." H. L. Mencken

sS

[email protected] (Sambo145)

in reply to Tom Watson on 31/12/2004 7:59 PM

01/01/2005 12:36 PM

>Wrecklish - A Guide For The Non-Native Speaker

Nice end to end 2004 Tom. Thanks for the clarification.

ll

loutent

in reply to Tom Watson on 31/12/2004 7:59 PM

31/12/2004 9:57 PM

<snip>

> I must humbly beseech you to accept my apologies for the
> incompleteness of this guide and reference. I would hope that Messr.
> Eisan of Canukistan would enshrine this poor beginning in the Holy FAQ
> as a living document - to be added to and amended as the members see
> fit.


Hi Tom,

I'm glad to see that you are not out on New Year's Eve
wasting your time partying around - better to
entertain us wreckers anyway.

You can't find this kind of entertainment on the
tube.

Thanks & Happy New Year!

Lou

LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to Tom Watson on 31/12/2004 7:59 PM

01/01/2005 9:51 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> "Planner", "Planar", "Planer" - All of these refer to a machine that
> is used to thickness and surface lumber.
>
I have a plain plane that uses no lektricity. My plain plane plainly
planes planar.


Nice work, Tom!

--
Homo sapiens is a goal, not a description

Sd

Silvan

in reply to Tom Watson on 31/12/2004 7:59 PM

01/01/2005 10:29 PM

Norman D. Crow wrote:

>> I can't believe I didn't see "rabbet vs rabbit"!
>>
> Don't forget to include "rebate" with them.

Isn't that a real term? I can find tons of examples of it in the context of
putting a "rebate" onto a frame, but I didn't find it in any of the three
woodworking dictionaries I googled up. I've been operating under the
impression that it was a real term. Have I been tricked by the
semiliterate denizens of the Wreck? :)

--
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Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/

LL

Larry Levinson

in reply to Tom Watson on 31/12/2004 7:59 PM

02/01/2005 11:53 AM

On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 19:59:43 -0500, Tom Watson <[email protected]>
wrote:

snip:
SWMBO: She Who Must Be Obeyed. The person responsible for assigning
project work and approving expeditures for tools to complete same.


>Wrecklish - A Guide For The Non-Native Speaker
>
>Regards,
>Tom.
>
>"People funny. Life a funny thing." Sonny Liston
>
>Thomas J.Watson - Cabinetmaker (ret.)
>tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
>http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to Tom Watson on 31/12/2004 7:59 PM

01/01/2005 5:11 PM

Matthew:
>And for those new to the group, what is the origin of 'Borg'? Where does
>that word come from? ... Big orange retail giant?


That term was actually coined right here on rec.wood and in
only the last couple/few years/right here in front of most
of us. Reason I go on about it is very seldom have we been
there at the inception of such a thing. Anyway, it has
spread and pretty universally used in the wooddorking
community (other wooddorking forums).

I can't remember who it was who first introduced it but he
did come back once and made a stink about proper credit.

Oh, as for meaning, Google Star Trek.

UA100

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to Tom Watson on 31/12/2004 7:59 PM

01/01/2005 4:30 PM

Swingman wrote:
>How time flies: http://tinyurl.com/42skr



Is that the oldest instance of the term and is it attributed
solely to Eddie Munster, i.e., him the one?

UA100

b

in reply to Tom Watson on 31/12/2004 7:59 PM

02/01/2005 9:24 AM

On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 22:29:33 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Norman D. Crow wrote:
>
>>> I can't believe I didn't see "rabbet vs rabbit"!
>>>
>> Don't forget to include "rebate" with them.
>
>Isn't that a real term? I can find tons of examples of it in the context of
>putting a "rebate" onto a frame, but I didn't find it in any of the three
>woodworking dictionaries I googled up. I've been operating under the
>impression that it was a real term. Have I been tricked by the
>semiliterate denizens of the Wreck? :)


I was introduced to the term rebate (alt spelling of rabbet) sometime
in the early eighties....

bb

brocpuffs

in reply to Tom Watson on 31/12/2004 7:59 PM

01/01/2005 11:03 AM

On 01 Jan 2005 10:27:22 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
wrote:

>Tom Watson posts:
>
>>
>>Wrecklish - A Guide For The Non-Native Speaker

I can't believe I didn't see "rabbet vs rabbit"!

I must have missed it, surely I did, Tom? I only saw Charlie Self's
full quote-

James
[email protected]

Br

Ba r r y

in reply to Tom Watson on 31/12/2004 7:59 PM

01/01/2005 11:29 PM

On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 18:17:01 -0500, SawDust <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>Sounds like a rare event. ! Was it well done or just bull ?

It was a rare occasion! Very moooving.

Barry

Mm

"Matthew"

in reply to Tom Watson on 31/12/2004 7:59 PM

01/01/2005 7:40 AM

And for those new to the group, what is the origin of 'Borg'? Where does
that word come from? ... Big orange retail giant?

Matthew

"Tom Watson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Wrecklish - A Guide For The Non-Native Speaker
>
> "Planner", "Planar", "Planer" - All of these refer to a machine that
> is used to thickness and surface lumber. They may be used
> interchangeably but the local preference is for "Planner". Some would
> insist that a good "Planner" would make his infeed and outfeed
> "Planar" with the bed of the "Planer" but these sorts don't last long
> around here.
>
> "Jointer", "Joiner" - Also terms that can be swapped indiscriminately
> without fear of reprisal. To those who would say that a "Joiner" can
> use a "Jointer" but that most "Jointers" lack the intellect to use a
> "Joiner" properly, most Wreckers would merely say, "Feh!".
>
> "Mantel", "Mantle" - This one is obviously a fielder's choice although
> the origin is cloaked in mystery. It is said by some that a "Joiner"
> may wear a "Mantle" whilst building a "Mantel", while one who would
> wear a "Mantel" might have a Christ Complex, or at least be
> uncomfortable at parties. Ancient references suggest that Mickey
> Mantle, while capable of building a Mickey Mantel, could not construct
> a Mickey Mantle, at least out of wood. Then again.
>
> "Advice", "Advise", "Vice", "Vise" - Certainly all victims of the same
> root structure, these are properly used as follows: "I went to the
> Wreck to solicit "Advise" about the proper selection of a "Vice" and
> having been "Adviced" by the cognoscenti, I avoided the "Vise" of
> misapplication." Sparkling in its clarity, that.
>
> "Board Foot", "Bored Foot" - Whilst one is a unit of measure equal to
> 144 cubic inches, the other is what happens to a pedestrial appendage
> that is used as a hold down on the drill press. Which is which is a
> matter of hot debate.
>
> "Tenon", "Tendon" - While it is entirely proper to say "He severed his
> "Tendon" while cutting his "Tenon", it is also perfectly fine to say
> "He severed his "Tenon" while cutting his "Tendon". Don't worry about
> this one it hardly ever comes up.
>
> "SawStop" - A device which has been proven to make safe the cutting of
> hotdogs on the tablesaw. The Hotdog, Wurst, Weiner and Kielbasa Cabal
> is said to be pushing for its required use on all future tablesaws.
>
> "Spontaneous Combustion" - A theory proposed by the those who insist
> that dust collection piping that is made of plastic will lead
> inevitably to shop explosions of nearly nuclear force. (cf:
> parthenogenesis.)
>
> "Norm", "Roy" - Greek gods cloaked in the motley of modern usage. The
> "Normites" make use of "'Lecktricity" (see below) while the "Royds"
> eschew all modern devices, save "BandAids", which are specifically
> included in their rituals and are, in fact, the common sign of the
> brethren, so that they may know each other at WoodDorking Shows.
>
> "'Lecktricity" - Although thought to be in the firm grip of science by
> most, Wreckers have proven this to be a fecund area of debate and
> opinion. When soliciting "Advise" about "'Lecktricity", one must
> always be sure that it is "UL Approved", rather than "URL Approved".
>
> I must humbly beseech you to accept my apologies for the
> incompleteness of this guide and reference. I would hope that Messr.
> Eisan of Canukistan would enshrine this poor beginning in the Holy FAQ
> as a living document - to be added to and amended as the members see
> fit.
>
>
>
> I remain, Your Obedient Servant In WoodDorking,
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Tom.
>
> "People funny. Life a funny thing." Sonny Liston
>
> Thomas J.Watson - Cabinetmaker (ret.)
> tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
> http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Tom Watson on 31/12/2004 7:59 PM

03/01/2005 6:06 AM

On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 09:24:29 -0700, [email protected] calmly ranted:

>I was introduced to the term rebate (alt spelling of rabbet) sometime
>in the early eighties....

It's dem Brits what done it. 'Tis a Pommy term.

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Gs

Groggy

in reply to Tom Watson on 31/12/2004 7:59 PM

01/01/2005 1:41 AM

Tom Watson <[email protected]> wrote:

>Wrecklish - A Guide For The Non-Native Speaker
<snip 'o classic Watsonisms>

Clean up crew to Groggy's monitor please!

ND

"Norman D. Crow"

in reply to Tom Watson on 31/12/2004 7:59 PM

01/01/2005 11:21 AM






"brocpuffs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 01 Jan 2005 10:27:22 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
> wrote:
>
> >Tom Watson posts:
> >
> >>
> >>Wrecklish - A Guide For The Non-Native Speaker
>
> I can't believe I didn't see "rabbet vs rabbit"!
>
Don't forget to include "rebate" with them.

--
Nahmie
Those on the cutting edge bleed a lot.

ND

"Norman D. Crow"

in reply to Tom Watson on 31/12/2004 7:59 PM

02/01/2005 9:02 AM





"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Norman D. Crow wrote:
>
> >> I can't believe I didn't see "rabbet vs rabbit"!
> >>
> > Don't forget to include "rebate" with them.
>
> Isn't that a real term? I can find tons of examples of it in the context
of
> putting a "rebate" onto a frame, but I didn't find it in any of the three
> woodworking dictionaries I googled up. I've been operating under the
> impression that it was a real term. Have I been tricked by the
> semiliterate denizens of the Wreck? :)
>
So is "rabbet". I just thought we should get all the spellings,
mis-spellings and mis-meanings included.(LOL)

--
Nahmie
Those on the cutting edge bleed a lot.

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to Tom Watson on 31/12/2004 7:59 PM

01/01/2005 5:17 PM

"Unisaw A100" wrote in message
> Swingman wrote:
> >How time flies: http://tinyurl.com/42skr
>
> Is that the oldest instance of the term and is it attributed
> solely to Eddie Munster, i.e., him the one?

AFAIK, him the one... also most probably who you were referring to about
taking the credit in a subsequent post a couple of years ago.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 11/06/04

mm

makesawdust

in reply to Tom Watson on 31/12/2004 7:59 PM

03/01/2005 9:30 PM


Here's another one:

Snipe (noun) - The illusive bird we chased deep in the woods at nigh
with paper bags in our youth, (commonly referred to as "snipe hunting"
that, as adults, we commonly find perched on the edge of freshly plane
boards

--
makesawdust

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to Tom Watson on 31/12/2004 7:59 PM

01/01/2005 12:23 PM

"Unisaw A100" wrote in message

> I can't remember who it was who first introduced it but he
> did come back once and made a stink about proper credit.

How time flies: http://tinyurl.com/42skr


--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 11/06/04


Br

Ba r r y

in reply to Tom Watson on 31/12/2004 7:59 PM

01/01/2005 2:08 PM

On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 19:59:43 -0500, Tom Watson <[email protected]>
wrote:

>"SawStop" - A device which has been proven to make safe the cutting of
>hotdogs on the tablesaw. The Hotdog, Wurst, Weiner and Kielbasa Cabal
>is said to be pushing for its required use on all future tablesaws.

I've heard that meat was organizing a union to address OSHA to make
SawStop mandatory on all butcher shop circular and band saws.

A side of beef was handing out leaflets in front of my local grocery
store in a peaceful informational picket this weekend.

Barry

Ss

SawDust

in reply to Tom Watson on 31/12/2004 7:59 PM

01/01/2005 6:17 PM


Sounds like a rare event. ! Was it well done or just bull ?

Pat


On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 14:08:24 GMT, Ba r r y
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 19:59:43 -0500, Tom Watson <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>"SawStop" - A device which has been proven to make safe the cutting of
>>hotdogs on the tablesaw. The Hotdog, Wurst, Weiner and Kielbasa Cabal
>>is said to be pushing for its required use on all future tablesaws.
>
>I've heard that meat was organizing a union to address OSHA to make
>SawStop mandatory on all butcher shop circular and band saws.
>
>A side of beef was handing out leaflets in front of my local grocery
>store in a peaceful informational picket this weekend.
>
>Barry

Pg

Patriarch

in reply to Tom Watson on 31/12/2004 7:59 PM

01/01/2005 6:41 PM

Tom Watson <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Wrecklish - A Guide For The Non-Native Speaker
>
<snip of a good espalation>
>
> I must humbly beseech you to accept my apologies for the
> incompleteness of this guide and reference. I would hope that Messr.
> Eisan of Canukistan would enshrine this poor beginning in the Holy FAQ
> as a living document - to be added to and amended as the members see
> fit.
>

If not Sir David, then perhaps Luigi of the Yukon...

Patriarch


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