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2044: Saw something similar to this in a museum in the Lofoten Islands
in Norway. Up in Svalbard there are a lot of polar bears. The settlers
up there would build a box just big enough for a bear's head to fit
in, put a hunk of meat in there attached to a gun like this (often a
homemade shotgun, made with a length of pipe and the spring-loaded
plunger from a glue gun). The bear would take the bait and get its
head blasted off. Severe, but certainly one way to off a Polar bear
without endangering yourself. No idea of the gauge of this rifle, but
it would be for killing something as small as a fox or rabbit, or as
large as a wolf.
--riverman
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2041: Fish hook holder
That's all I've got this week...
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2041: Fish hook holder
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2043 looks like a stop light lens that I saw on a vintage car way back in
the mists of time. How they expected anyone in a following car to read the
thing is a mystery.
Steve R.
2041 is a scraper, for making orange shavings for fancy cocktails.
2042 is a pair of neck lugs, from an early Frankenstein movie.
2043 was used for a go cart, at an ammusement park
2044 is an air powered BB gun, used at arcades and ammussment parks
2045 is a cheese sampler. The inspector would plunge the V edge into a
cheese round, and use the pointy part to complete the sample removal.
2046 was used by English explorers, who were building aqueducts in
Egypt. They had to have a specific pitch, or else the water would not
roll down hill.
All guesses. I really don't know what any of these are.
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2041 is definitely a leader/hook holder for fishermen.
(I had one) The spring-loaded bottom hooks keep leaders with hooks pulled
straight, and ready to dispense while changing rigs fishing.
LLoyd
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>> Rob
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> 2044: LH wood screw. Federal regulations require LH wood screws to
> have heads with several elaborate features to prevent tampering by
> fools with RH screwdrivers.
2041: Fish hook organizer
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2043 Silly, worthless, baseless guess: Early traffic light.
2044 Guess: Trap. Gun to shoot pests/varmints. Screw into barn timber.
Bait the hook. Cartridge in central receiver. Spring and striker at left.
2045 This has to be a really fancy grapefruit section cutter/extractor.
2046 Gunsight. Leveling aid for a gun/cannon. After firing, pre-French-75
guns would recoil and roll back. After the crew roll it forward to its
original position and reload, something like this is put on top of the
barrel and used to check the elevation.
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On 9/23/10 5:34 AM, Rob H. wrote:
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2043: When the train left the station it had two lights on behind
The blue light was my baby and the red light was my mind.
On a railroad train, red is a running light. Blue means the equipment
is being worked on and can't be moved.
Perhaps this light was used on railroad equipment blocking a track.
Perhaps it was put at a switch so trains would not be turned onto the
blocked track.
I imagine it could also be an early brake light for a road vehicle. The
railroad tradition sounds safer than having a brake light the same color
as a running light.
> 2046 Gunsight. Leveling aid for a gun/cannon. After firing,
> pre-French-75 guns would recoil and roll back. After the crew roll it
> forward to its original position and reload, something like this is put on
> top of the barrel and used to check the elevation.
That's what I was thinking, probably for use with some type of artillery.
Rob
> 2043: When the train left the station it had two lights on behind
> The blue light was my baby and the red light was my mind.
>
> On a railroad train, red is a running light. Blue means the equipment is
> being worked on and can't be moved.
>
> Perhaps this light was used on railroad equipment blocking a track.
> Perhaps it was put at a switch so trains would not be turned onto the
> blocked track.
>
> I imagine it could also be an early brake light for a road vehicle. The
> railroad tradition sounds safer than having a brake light the same color
> as a running light.
My guess was also that it was railroad related but I couldn't find one like
it on the web.
Rob
On 9/23/10 5:14 PM, Rob H. wrote:
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>
>> 2046 Gunsight. Leveling aid for a gun/cannon. After firing,
>> pre-French-75 guns would recoil and roll back. After the crew roll it
>> forward to its original position and reload, something like this is
>> put on top of the barrel and used to check the elevation.
>
>
> That's what I was thinking, probably for use with some type of artillery.
>
> Rob
Ahh, great minds think alike!
Judging by the photo, if it's 1-1/2" high, the overall length is more
than 2".
In the 1920s, Britain adopted a 2" mortar that weighed ten pounds and
had a range of 500 yards. Besides inflicting casualties, they could
fire a harpoon to clear a minefield. After WWII they remained in use
for smoke and illumination.
You would drop the round in, tip it, and pull the trigger. The only
aiming aid was a white stripe on the barrel. 2046 might have been used
to set the elevation.
Laid across the muzzle, this gauge would be level with an elevation of
about 72 degrees, corresponding to half the maximum range. With a small
plumb bob, the mortarman could place a nail in the ground under the lip
of the muzzle. Now if he uses the plumb bob in tipping the mortar, the
distance from the nail will correspond to the range relative to 250 yards.
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2045 - something to cut slices out of a melon?
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2046 - A clinometer, probably but not necessarily for military use. The "2"
may indicate a 1 in 2 rise of the tube over the horizontal base. The numbers
1 to 9 then would represent some deviation from a 1 in 2 rise.
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On 9/23/10 6:14 PM, J Burns wrote:
> On 9/23/10 5:14 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>>
>>
>>> 2046 Gunsight. Leveling aid for a gun/cannon. After firing,
>>> pre-French-75 guns would recoil and roll back. After the crew roll it
>>> forward to its original position and reload, something like this is
>>> put on top of the barrel and used to check the elevation.
>>
>>
>> That's what I was thinking, probably for use with some type of artillery.
>>
>> Rob
>
> Ahh, great minds think alike!
>
> Judging by the photo, if it's 1-1/2" high, the overall length is more
> than 2".
>
> In the 1920s, Britain adopted a 2" mortar that weighed ten pounds and
> had a range of 500 yards. Besides inflicting casualties, they could fire
> a harpoon to clear a minefield. After WWII they remained in use for
> smoke and illumination.
>
> You would drop the round in, tip it, and pull the trigger. The only
> aiming aid was a white stripe on the barrel. 2046 might have been used
> to set the elevation.
>
> Laid across the muzzle, this gauge would be level with an elevation of
> about 72 degrees, corresponding to half the maximum range. With a small
> plumb bob, the mortarman could place a nail in the ground under the lip
> of the muzzle. Now if he uses the plumb bob in tipping the mortar, the
> distance from the nail will correspond to the range relative to 250 yards.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2-inch_mortar
I was mistaken. It didn't go into production until 1938. The article
says it originally had "a large collimating sight with elevating and
cross-level bubbles, but this was soon dropped as unnecessary..."
Without a sight, fire could still be adjusted with a bipod, but this
weapon had none. Here are some soldiers firing one:
http://www.krkeefe.addr.com/images/2-inch/2-inch-1.jpg
http://www.krkeefe.addr.com/images/2-inch/2-inch-2.jpg
At 250 yards, moving the muzzle a cm would move the impact about 15
yards. The guys in the photos look less precise than that. A
sandbagged machine gunner isn't going to take you seriously unless you
can move the muzzle in increments of a mm.
I think a one-ounce plumb bob tied around the muzzle was what made the
large collimating sight unnecessary. The ground under the muzzle would
become a battlefield chart with nail heads to mark shots. If you fire
your last round and get a call that it was 10yards SW of the machine
gun, when more ammo reaches you, you hold the muzzle so the plumb bob is
7mm NE of the last nail, and you should hit the machine gun.
On flat ground you could probably get your first round fairly close with
just a plumb bob, a ruler, and nails. If the mortar is on a slope, the
lack of a horizontal reference could make the mortarman's estimate wild.
It looks as if 2046 would be very helpful for setting a reference nail.
The gauge would be level with the tube at such an angle that a plumb
bob tied near the muzzle would be about 15cm from the bottom of the
tube. For a round with a 500-yard range, a nail set under the bob would
mean a distance of about 248 yards. Depending on where your target was
in relation to 248 yards, you'd set a second nail and might hit it on
the first shot.
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2041: Fish hook holder
2041: or, if both ends are hinged, it looks a bit like an egg slicer/mincer
my mom has.
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>> Rob
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>
> 2046 - A clinometer, probably but not necessarily for military use. The
> "2" may indicate a 1 in 2 rise of the tube over the horizontal base. The
> numbers 1 to 9 then would represent some deviation from a 1 in 2 rise.
>
It looks notched to rest on the end of a tube. The "2" could mean a 2"
mortar. The H could mean high explosive; you'd have to use a different
gauge if you wanted to use smoke or illumination with precision.
The 5 could mean 250 yards as a means to get accuracy from a mortar with
no sight or bipod. The other marks could be 210 to 290, in case the
platoon meets a tank.
In WWII the British PIAT had a range of 750 yards but accuracy reduced
the effective range to 100 yards. It was very dangerous to shoot at a
tank that close. With 50% more velocity, the US 3.5" rocket launcher
had 50% more effective range. With twice the velocity, the LAAW has
twice the range.
Apparently getting the elevation right is an obstacle that limits the
effective range of slow-moving antitank projectiles. This gauge could
be used to drop a mortar shell at a known range between 200 and 300
yards so that when the tank got there, the antitank crew would be ready
with the right elevation.
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>> 2045 This has to be a really fancy grapefruit section cutter/extractor.
>
> Correct! A link to the patent can be found at the answer for it. Still
> not sure about a couple of them this week, the rest of the answers can be
> seen here:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2010/09/set-355.html#answers
Forgot to mention that I'll post a few more tomorrow in another weekend set.
Rob
On 9/23/10 5:14 PM, Rob H. wrote:
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>
>> 2046 Gunsight. Leveling aid for a gun/cannon. After firing,
>> pre-French-75 guns would recoil and roll back. After the crew roll it
>> forward to its original position and reload, something like this is
>> put on top of the barrel and used to check the elevation.
>
>
> That's what I was thinking, probably for use with some type of artillery.
>
> Rob
http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=203094
This page says the British War Office tested the 2" mortar in 1942 and
found that at 400 yards it took 14 rounds to have a 50% chance of
putting shrapnel into a life-size dummy standing in the open.
Unless British troops knew a better way to aim it, I don't see how it
could have been a favorite of infantry platoons for more than 40 years.
They had to lug the ammunition. They depended on it.
It was phased out after the Falklands War because ammunition was no
longer available. According to Doug Beattie's account of combat in
Afghanistan in 2006, the replacement is very similar. Its azimuth is
sighted by a white stripe and it's fired by a lanyard. However, it has
a built-in spirit level to set the elevation.
If the modern version needs a spirit level, I believe 2046 was a pocket
level for the old version. It appears to be the right size. I don't
know where to find out how British troops got good performance from a
weapon which was a dud in War Office tests.
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>> 2045 This has to be a really fancy grapefruit section cutter/extractor.
>
> Correct! A link to the patent can be found at the answer for it. Still
> not sure about a couple of them this week, the rest of the answers can be
> seen here:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2010/09/set-355.html#answers
>
>
> Rob
2044 is really a Lawyer waiting for a trip to Bermuda
On 9/23/10 5:14 PM, Rob H. wrote:
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>> 2046 Gunsight. Leveling aid for a gun/cannon. After firing,
>> pre-French-75 guns would recoil and roll back. After the crew roll it
>> forward to its original position and reload, something like this is
>> put on top of the barrel and used to check the elevation.
>
>
> That's what I was thinking, probably for use with some type of artillery.
>
> Rob
I'm obsessed with 2046!
It looks as if the notches would fit the muzzle of a British two-inch
mortar, which had no built-in sight.
I've read that one soldier would both load and fire while the other held
the tube at the right angle. That would make it possible to aim with
both hands, but only one photo shows it. There are two mortars. Each
aimer uses two hands with one arm braced on his knee, and his head is up
where he can watch both azimuth and elevation. I like it!
In the Wikipedia photo, the aimer has one hand on the base and one on a
handle near the base. How could he keep the muzzle steady through
loading? He's prone, so his head is too low to keep an eye on the
elevation.
It's a battle shot from 1945. It doesn't look feasible unless the
loader has a pocket level. I think 2046 is marked 2 because it's for
200 yards plus the bubble reading in increments of 10 yards. After
loading, the loader puts his level on the muzzle and guides it higher or
lower. Then he removes his level and pulls the lanyard as the aimer
holds the elevation and watches the azimuth.
This method would save the weight of a bipod. Uneven ground wouldn't
slow deployment, and soft ground wouldn't affect accuracy.
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2041: A device to store fishhooks or lures that are attached to wire
leaders.
-Zz
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2043: A stop light glass from an early car but the red has disappeared
2045: A watermelon slicer to bring out a slice of watermelon without the
skin and mess all over your face
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Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking as always.
2041) Assuming that the brown part in the middle is leather and
not fiberboard, it looks as though it will bend around something
and hook together at several different sizes -- based on which
row of hold you lock to.
I would like to see the other side -- perhaps something to
control the sliding of the row of hooks on the bottom right-hand
end.
It could also be an extension for some kind of safety belt,
perhaps.
2042) I presume that the dark arch connecting the two sides is a
wire and these are some kind of solenoids which perhaps
implement a lock of some sort -- both have to be withdrawn at
the same time to allow something to move. And they are moved by
applying voltage to the coils in the cylinders, which drw the
pins back against the force of the springs.
2043) A brake light from the back of a truck or bus (perhaps an
ancient school bus) before the standardization of red for stop
came into being.
Perhaps even a light from an early traffic light -- again from
before the standardization of red for stop. (Unless it actually
shows red with light passing through it, and only reflects a
greenish tinge.
2044) Totally illegal to use.
A "spring gun" -- you screw the support screw into something
which won't move easily, hide a tripwire which is hooked to the
hook to the right, and when someone trips over the wire, it
fires a cartridge, leading to the likely demise of the tripper,
and the likely arrest of you as the one who set it up.
2045) Looks like a tool for extracting a single wedge from a
halved grapefruit. Maybe an orange, based on the size.
2046) Looks like a tool for adjusting a cannon to a specific
angle -- perhaps to achieve a specific range.
Now to see what others have suggested.
I've got to stop working in the shop on Thursdays, so I can get
to these more quickly. :-)
Enjoy,
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