My first veneer project.
I veneered a panel with bookmatched veneer. I joined the seam between
the two bookmatched "leaves" together with gummed veneer tape. Put it
in a press for a few hours. unitl the glue cured.
Once out of the press, how do I get the veneer tape off?
I've tried a scraper, but it still took a lot of pressure and repeated
scrapings. And its still not all off. I have a lot of doors to do this
way, so I'm looking for some labor saving secret.
I tried moistening the tape. This helped but the glue seemed to be left
on the surface.
If there's no easy way to get it off, could I avoid this problem and
use masking tape?
Mitch.
Hi,
In the UK I use a 'blue tape' which is a thin plastic tape made by
Tessa. This is much easier to remove than gummed tape and leaves
absolutely no residue what so ever. It doesn't have the same level of
adhesion though, so if you are making up a large and complicated lay
on I would probably stick (ho ho) to gummed.
When removing gummed tape I normally leave it until it absolutely dry
and then sand it off using a sander with good dust extraction, in my
case a Festool 150mm random orbit sander hooked up to a vacuum
cleaner. The danger with removing the tape wet is that the gum gets
pushed down onto the grain and then you will never get it out.
Cheers
Darren
You were on the right track. Read this:
http://www.joewoodworker.com/veneering/veneertaping.htm
Dave
Mitch wrote:
> My first veneer project.
>
> I veneered a panel with bookmatched veneer. I joined the seam between
> the two bookmatched "leaves" together with gummed veneer tape. Put it
> in a press for a few hours. unitl the glue cured.
>
> Once out of the press, how do I get the veneer tape off?
>
> I've tried a scraper, but it still took a lot of pressure and repeated
> scrapings. And its still not all off. I have a lot of doors to do this
> way, so I'm looking for some labor saving secret.
>
> I tried moistening the tape. This helped but the glue seemed to be left
> on the surface.
>
> If there's no easy way to get it off, could I avoid this problem and
> use masking tape?
>
> Mitch.
>
I use a vacuum press for my veneering. When I first pull panels out of the
vacuum bag there is still a good amount of moisture on the panels and the
tape is still fairly wet. I try and scrape as much of the tape off as I can
at that point. Still, there's always a fair amount left. My easiest method
has always been to let the panels dry overnight so the remaining tape is dry
(almost brittle) and then it comes off with a little easy sanding with 150
or 220 grit on my ROS. I always go over my veneer panels this way anyway -
just a little careful work around the taped edges and it works fine and
quickly.
I NEVER use blue tape or masking tape on joints in my vacuum press. Too much
adhesive power. I use it to hold the corners of the veneer down to keep it
from curling up until I have my platen ready for the bag. My experience is
the blue tape can be very tough to get off the veneer and will often take
chunks of veneer with it. If I keep it in the corners (usually a waste area)
I'm pretty safe.
My 2 cents. Gary in KC
"Mitch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> My first veneer project.
>
> I veneered a panel with bookmatched veneer. I joined the seam between
> the two bookmatched "leaves" together with gummed veneer tape. Put it
> in a press for a few hours. unitl the glue cured.
>
> Once out of the press, how do I get the veneer tape off?
>
> I've tried a scraper, but it still took a lot of pressure and repeated
> scrapings. And its still not all off. I have a lot of doors to do this
> way, so I'm looking for some labor saving secret.
>
> I tried moistening the tape. This helped but the glue seemed to be left
> on the surface.
>
> If there's no easy way to get it off, could I avoid this problem and
> use masking tape?
>
> Mitch.
>
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On 3 Apr 2005 19:49:37 -0700, the inscrutable "Mitch"
<[email protected]> spake:
>My first veneer project.
>
>I veneered a panel with bookmatched veneer. I joined the seam between
>the two bookmatched "leaves" together with gummed veneer tape. Put it
>in a press for a few hours. unitl the glue cured.
>
>Once out of the press, how do I get the veneer tape off?
>
>I've tried a scraper, but it still took a lot of pressure and repeated
>scrapings. And its still not all off. I have a lot of doors to do this
>way, so I'm looking for some labor saving secret.
>
>I tried moistening the tape. This helped but the glue seemed to be left
>on the surface.
>
>If there's no easy way to get it off, could I avoid this problem and
>use masking tape?
The veneer god I saw in Sandy Eggo used the moisture-set veneer tape.
His stuff went for $15k+. He had just ordered a $150k machine to use
it, too.
The blue painter's masking tape is successfully used by David Marks.
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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:42:52 GMT, "Gary A in KC"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I NEVER use blue tape or masking tape on joints in my vacuum press.
What's "blue tape" ?
Here in the UK it's pressure sensitive tape used for masking when
painting. It's a "low release force", but it's still not something I'd
use for veneer work.
The tape I use for veneer is gummed paper tape, white, with holes in,
and wetted before use. It comes off cleanly, by soaking or sanding.
Yes, it's expensive (why?!)
In the linked page though, the "blue tape" they refer to appears to be
real veneer tape, only blue - judging by how they remove it. Is this
right ?
Blue tape in the US is a painter's masking tape. Good and supposedly low
release tape for general purposes. Definitely not a good tape for doing
seams in veneering in my opinion.
I use the veneer tape you describe (except mine's brown). Wet it and stick
it. Then scrape and sand to get off when done.
Gary in KC
"Andy Dingley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:42:52 GMT, "Gary A in KC"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I NEVER use blue tape or masking tape on joints in my vacuum press.
>
> What's "blue tape" ?
>
> Here in the UK it's pressure sensitive tape used for masking when
> painting. It's a "low release force", but it's still not something I'd
> use for veneer work.
>
> The tape I use for veneer is gummed paper tape, white, with holes in,
> and wetted before use. It comes off cleanly, by soaking or sanding.
> Yes, it's expensive (why?!)
>
> In the linked page though, the "blue tape" they refer to appears to be
> real veneer tape, only blue - judging by how they remove it. Is this
> right ?
>