JJ

12/10/2007 3:38 AM

Re: FWW Article: "you can't be serious" abount clamping.

Tue, Oct 9, 2007, 2:20am (EDT+4) [email protected] (LRod) did
sayeth:
I moved on the instant I saw the glue up with the QuickGrips on it. He
asserts you can get greater pressure with them than K-Bodies? Please.
I bought my first QuickGrips probably 20 years ago. It took me all of
about five minutes to figure out they were possibly okay for some tasks,
but you couldn't depend on them staying clamped and they definitely
couldn't be clamped really hard. Those first ones were also my last
ones.

I never bought any cause they look so weak - and pricey. Actually,
they look like plastic, but I never handled one, so can't say for sure.
Got some metal equivalents at Big Lots for around $1.50 each. They work
about like a caulking gun, and sure exert adequate pressure, have no
problem with them staying clamped. I try to pick up one or two, if in
stock, and about $2 each, which is not often. The other day they were
$4+ each. Only 6" capacity, but no problem to cut one in half, then
rivet or weld a metal extension in, to extend it a foot or so. Can be
very handy at times.



JOAT
"I'm an Igor, thur. We don't athk quethtionth."
"Really? Why not?"
"I don't know, thur. I didn't athk."


This topic has 7 replies

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to [email protected] (J T) on 12/10/2007 3:38 AM

12/10/2007 11:15 AM

J T wrote:
> Tue, Oct 9, 2007, 2:20am (EDT+4) [email protected] (LRod) did
> sayeth:
> I moved on the instant I saw the glue up with the QuickGrips on it.
> He
> asserts you can get greater pressure with them than K-Bodies?
> Please.
> I bought my first QuickGrips probably 20 years ago. It took me all
> of
> about five minutes to figure out they were possibly okay for some
> tasks, but you couldn't depend on them staying clamped and they
> definitely couldn't be clamped really hard. Those first ones were
> also my last ones.
>
> I never bought any cause they look so weak - and pricey.
> Actually, they look like plastic, but I never handled one, so can't
> say for sure. Got some metal equivalents at Big Lots for around
> $1.50
> each. They work about like a caulking gun, and sure exert adequate
> pressure, have no problem with them staying clamped. I try to pick
> up one or two, if in stock, and about $2 each, which is not often.
> The other day they were $4+ each. Only 6" capacity, but no problem
> to cut one in half, then rivet or weld a metal extension in, to
> extend it a foot or so. Can be very handy at times.

So which is it, did you never buy any QuickGrips or did you buy your
first ones 20 years ago?


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JJ

in reply to "J. Clarke" on 12/10/2007 11:15 AM

12/10/2007 4:13 PM

Fri, Oct 12, 2007, 11:15am [email protected] (J.=A0Clarke) doth
query:
So which is it, did you never buy any QuickGrips or did you buy your
first ones 20 years ago?

I never bought any QuickGrips. LRod bought some 20 years ago. I
bought inexpensive metal quick clamps a few years back, and I've been
quite happy with those.



JOAT
"I'm an Igor, thur. We don't athk quethtionth."
"Really? Why not?"
"I don't know, thur. I didn't athk."

Ld

LRod

in reply to [email protected] (J T) on 12/10/2007 3:38 AM

12/10/2007 8:24 PM

On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:15:48 -0400, "J. Clarke"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>J T wrote:

>> Tue, Oct 9, 2007, 2:20am (EDT+4) [email protected] (LRod)
>> did sayeth:
>>
>>> I moved on the instant I saw the glue up with the QuickGrips on
>>> it. He asserts you can get greater pressure with them than
>>> K-Bodies? Please.
>>>
>>> I bought my first QuickGrips probably 20 years ago. It took me
>>> all of about five minutes to figure out they were possibly okay for
>>> some tasks, but you couldn't depend on them staying clamped
>>> and they definitely couldn't be clamped really hard. Those first
>>> ones were also my last ones.
>>
>> I never bought any cause they look so weak - and pricey.
>> Actually, they look like plastic, but I never handled one, so can't
>> say for sure. Got some metal equivalents at Big Lots for around
>> $1.50 each. They work about like a caulking gun, and sure exert
>> adequate pressure, have no problem with them staying clamped.
>> I try to pick up one or two, if in stock, and about $2 each, which is
>> not often. The other day they were $4+ each. Only 6" capacity,
>> but no problem to cut one in half, then rivet or weld a metal
>> extension in, to extend it a foot or so. Can be very handy at times.
>
>So which is it, did you never buy any QuickGrips or did you buy your
>first ones 20 years ago?

The "first ones 20 years ago" was from my post. He doesn't know how to
set webtv to identify quotes. I've fixed that in this one to what it
is supposed to look like.


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JJ

in reply to LRod on 12/10/2007 8:24 PM

12/10/2007 6:54 PM

Fri, Oct 12, 2007, 8:24pm (EDT+4) [email protected] (LRod) doth
claimeth::
The "first ones 20 years ago" was from my post. He doesn't know how to
set webtv to identify quotes. I've fixed that in this one to what it is
supposed to look like. <snip>

Pardon? "I" don't know how to quote? OK, this is your quote of
what I wrote when I quoted "you":
J T wrote:
Tue, Oct 9, 2007, 2:20am (EDT+4) [email protected] (LRod) did
sayeth:
I moved on the instant I saw the glue up with the QuickGrips on it. He
asserts you can get greater pressure with them than K-Bodies? Please.
I bought my first QuickGrips probably 20 years ago. <snip of the rest>

I quoted "you", who said "you" bought about 20 years ago. Looks
clear to me. Also, looks to me like he read it wrong. I'll keep on
quoting the same way I have for the last 10 or so years.



JOAT
"I'm an Igor, thur. We don't athk quethtionth."
"Really? Why not?"
"I don't know, thur. I didn't athk."

Ld

LRod

in reply to LRod on 12/10/2007 8:24 PM

13/10/2007 12:22 AM

On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:54:23 -0400, [email protected] (J T)
wrote:

>Fri, Oct 12, 2007, 8:24pm (EDT+4) [email protected] (LRod) doth
>claimeth::
>The "first ones 20 years ago" was from my post. He doesn't know how to
>set webtv to identify quotes. I've fixed that in this one to what it is
>supposed to look like. <snip>
>
> Pardon? "I" don't know how to quote? OK, this is your quote of
>what I wrote when I quoted "you":
>J T wrote:
>Tue, Oct 9, 2007, 2:20am (EDT+4) [email protected] (LRod) did
>sayeth:
>I moved on the instant I saw the glue up with the QuickGrips on it. He
>asserts you can get greater pressure with them than K-Bodies? Please.
>I bought my first QuickGrips probably 20 years ago. <snip of the rest>
>
> I quoted "you", who said "you" bought about 20 years ago. Looks
>clear to me. Also, looks to me like he read it wrong. I'll keep on
>quoting the same way I have for the last 10 or so years.

Then you'll keep doing it wrong. It's not just a matter of including
the text (which admittedly is quoting the poster). It's also a matter
of making it clear who's doing the talking. That's what the "quoted
text markers" are for. They might be > or : They indicate quoted text,
but they also have to reflect the level of quote, and do that by
placing two for a quote of a quote. or three for a quote of a quote of
a quote.

In your example above everything from "Fri, Oct 12, 2007, 8:24pm " to
"quoting the same way I have " is preceded by a single >. That
indicates to newsreaders that all 18 lines (in my reader) were uttered
by the same author. In fact, the text beginning with "The "first ones
20 years ago" and ending with "supposed to look like" is my work, and
should have been preceded in your post by a > or : which would have
made them a >> or :: in this reply.

In your post that text isn't. Consequently, it looks to readers as if
you wrote the whole post, and clearly you didn't. He didn't read it
wrong. You posted it wrong.

There are settings in news readers which do that automatically. I
figured out 10 (or so) years ago what they meant and how to do it.
It's marginally acceptable for you to continue to do it the way you're
doing, so long as you don't mind expecting others to do your work for
you. Say, isn't that why you get so upset with people asking where to
find stuff?

You're doing exactly the same thing to us. Next time you go off on
someone for asking where to find something I'm going to remind you
that by your standards it's okay if they keep on asking the same way
they have for the last 10 (or so) years. See how you like it.


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ML

Maxwell Lol

in reply to LRod on 12/10/2007 8:24 PM

12/10/2007 9:36 PM

LRod <[email protected]> writes:

> You're doing exactly the same thing to us. Next time you go off on
> someone for asking where to find something I'm going to remind you
> that by your standards it's okay if they keep on asking the same way
> they have for the last 10 (or so) years. See how you like it.

Don't be so hard on him. He's not using a computer.
One of these days.....

Ld

LRod

in reply to LRod on 12/10/2007 8:24 PM

13/10/2007 1:58 AM

On 12 Oct 2007 21:36:19 -0400, Maxwell Lol <[email protected]> wrote:

>LRod <[email protected]> writes:
>
>> You're doing exactly the same thing to us. Next time you go off on
>> someone for asking where to find something I'm going to remind you
>> that by your standards it's okay if they keep on asking the same way
>> they have for the last 10 (or so) years. See how you like it.
>
>Don't be so hard on him. He's not using a computer.

I know he's not. I even mentioned that two posts up.

>One of these days.....

Are you kidding? He buys his clamps at Big Lots...

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