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"SBO"

10/10/2005 12:52 PM

Bandsaw: Craftman and Ridgid identical ?

I look for a 14' bandsaw. I saw that Craftman professional and Ridgid seem
to be the same. Is this the same thing?

S.B.


This topic has 26 replies

b

in reply to "SBO" on 10/10/2005 12:52 PM

12/10/2005 12:14 PM

On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 08:50:07 -0700, mac davis
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On 11 Oct 2005 14:35:37 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>
>>nospam wrote:
>>> Very true! Emerson Electric now manufactures the Rigid line for HD
>>> (although I hope to better standards and specifications) At least
>>> they did a good job with the new contractor's saw.
>>>
>>> Sears went searching for a new supplier. The found Ryobi. I'll leave
>>> the quality discussion up to you.
>>>
>>
>>
>>Now you have me confused. I read in this NG about a year or so ago
>>that Emerson had stopped making stationary power tools for the Ridge
>>Tool Company (which are marketed through HD) and that now they are
>>made by Ryobi.
>
>not sure how you spell it, but I was told here (this ng) that the ridgid and
>grizzly are both made by the "elephant" company in China and are identical...
>
>this would seem logical, since I put a grizzly riser block kit on my ridgid saw
>and it works fine... YM (and spelling)MV
>
>
>mac
>
>Please remove splinters before emailing


since pretty much all of the 14" bandsaws on the market now are clones
of the old delta design, it wouldn't be surprising if any of the riser
kits fit any of the saws.

Aa

"Andy"

in reply to "SBO" on 10/10/2005 12:52 PM

10/10/2005 10:08 AM

I was pretty amazed that Craftsman or Ridgid would make a 14 foot
bandsaw (14' in OP), and when I checked HD's website to look at the
Ridgid, apparently it's true! Check it out - "smooth running belt
drive that delivers power to resaw up to 6 Ft.' thick oak."
http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDUS/EN_US/diy_main/pg_diy.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@2125204893.1128963092@@@@&BV_EngineID=cccladdflmggdmicgelceffdfgidglo.0&CNTTYPE=PROD_META&CNTKEY=misc/searchResults.jsp&MID=9876&N=2984+3966&pos=n24
Hey - if you can get 6 foot resaw capacity, go for it. If not, you
might check out Grizzly.com - their 14" Ultimate Bandsaw appears to be
a better deal for less $ than either of the ones you mentioned, and
it's built in an ISO9001 factory.
Good luck,
Andy

Aa

"Andy"

in reply to "SBO" on 10/10/2005 12:52 PM

10/10/2005 10:59 AM

Bummer. Oh, well - if you have 6 foot wide boards to resaw, you'd
better not be shopping for those kind of tools at Home Depot.
As far as the original question, the bases and motors on the Craftsman
and Ridgid look completely different, at least on their respective
websites. And by the way, no affiliation with any of these
companies...
Andy

f

in reply to "SBO" on 10/10/2005 12:52 PM

10/10/2005 4:24 PM


Toller wrote:
> "Andy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >I was pretty amazed that Craftsman or Ridgid would make a 14 foot
> > bandsaw (14' in OP), and when I checked HD's website to look at the
> > Ridgid, apparently it's true! Check it out - "smooth running belt
> > drive that delivers power to resaw up to 6 Ft.' thick oak."
>
> Pot calling the kettle black...
> On my computer it says 6", not 6'.

On mine it says:

3/4 HP TEFC Induction motor for quiet, smooth running belt drive that
delivers power to resaw up to 6 Ft.' thick oak.

in two (2) different places on this page:

http://www.homedepot.com/prel80HDUS/EN_US/diy_main/pg_diy.jsp?CNTTYPE=PROD_META&pos=n24&MID=9876&com.broadvision.session.new=Yes&N=2984+3966&CNTKEY=misc%2fsearchResults.jsp

--

FF

f

in reply to "SBO" on 10/10/2005 12:52 PM

11/10/2005 2:35 PM


nospam wrote:
> Very true! Emerson Electric now manufactures the Rigid line for HD
> (although I hope to better standards and specifications) At least
> they did a good job with the new contractor's saw.
>
> Sears went searching for a new supplier. The found Ryobi. I'll leave
> the quality discussion up to you.
>


Now you have me confused. I read in this NG about a year or so ago
that Emerson had stopped making stationary power tools for the Ridge
Tool Company (which are marketed through HD) and that now they are
made by Ryobi.

--

FF

f

in reply to "SBO" on 10/10/2005 12:52 PM

12/10/2005 10:17 AM


Toller wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > Toller wrote:
> >> "Andy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >> >I was pretty amazed that Craftsman or Ridgid would make a 14 foot
> >> > bandsaw (14' in OP), and when I checked HD's website to look at the
> >> > Ridgid, apparently it's true! Check it out - "smooth running belt
> >> > drive that delivers power to resaw up to 6 Ft.' thick oak."
> >>
> >> Pot calling the kettle black...
> >> On my computer it says 6", not 6'.
> >
> > On mine it says:
> >
> > 3/4 HP TEFC Induction motor for quiet, smooth running belt drive that
> > delivers power to resaw up to 6 Ft.' thick oak.
> >
> > in two (2) different places on this page:
> >
> > http://www.homedepot.com/prel80HDUS/EN_US/diy_main/pg_diy.jsp?CNTTYPE=PROD_META&pos=n24&MID=9876&com.broadvision.session.new=Yes&N=2984+3966&CNTKEY=misc%2fsearchResults.jsp
> >
> You need a better monitor. On mine they are clearly inch symbols.

First of all, I copied and pasted the text so the ASCII symbols posted
to USeNet are the same as the ASCII symbols on the webpage.

Secondly, Are we to undersstand that on your monitor the symbol
for 'inch' is 'Ft'? That's a very peculiar monitor.

--

FF

f

in reply to "SBO" on 10/10/2005 12:52 PM

12/10/2005 1:27 PM


John Thomas wrote:
> "Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
> > You need a better monitor. On mine they are clearly inch symbols
>
> Hm. My 21" Philips clearly shows the text as 6Ft' <-- note the single
> quote. In two seperate places.
>

Actually that indicates feet twice, once with the avvreviation "Ft"
and onlce with the symbol "'". SO maybe they mean square feet of
whatever thickness. After you cut 6 square feet of oak, you need
to buy a new saw...

--

FF

(Or maybe just get the blade sharpened."

nD

nospam

in reply to "SBO" on 10/10/2005 12:52 PM

11/10/2005 8:44 AM

Very true! Emerson Electric now manufactures the Rigid line for HD
(although I hope to better standards and specifications) At least
they did a good job with the new contractor's saw.

Sears went searching for a new supplier. The found Ryobi. I'll leave
the quality discussion up to you.

SS



On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 23:01:32 GMT, "World Traveler" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>A few years ago, an article in Forbes magazine said that Home Depot had
>out-maneuvered Sears and started used the Craftsman OEM (Emerson) to
>manufacture tools, putting them under the Ridgid logo. The Ridgid tablesaw
>that I bought at that time sure looked like the earlier Craftsman items --
>in fact, HD was giving a $100 trade-in to everyone who turned in a Sears
>tablesaw and bought a Ridgid. This forced Sears to go to a new supplier.
>
>The Ridgid line of tools uses the name from Ridge Road plumbing supplies,
>with HD manipulating things behind the scenes. (HD did a similar operation
>for a couple of years in the '90s, when they started to market lawn tractors
>built by John Deere, under the "Scotts" logo.)
>
>So the "new" Ridgid came from the manufacturer of the "old" Craftsman . . .
>or so I've read -- Regards --
>
>"SBO" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:o%[email protected]...
>>I look for a 14' bandsaw. I saw that Craftman professional and Ridgid seem
>>to be the same. Is this the same thing?
>>
>> S.B.
>>
>

RM

"Rob Mills"

in reply to "SBO" on 10/10/2005 12:52 PM

11/10/2005 10:29 PM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
.

>>>I read in this NG about a year or so ago that Emerson had stopped making
stationary power tools for the Ridge Tool Company (which are marketed
through HD) and that now they are
made by Ryobi.<<<

I believe you are right. Sears and Ryobi split the sheets about a year ago.
I'm not sure who took over for Sears. RM~

md

mac davis

in reply to "SBO" on 10/10/2005 12:52 PM

14/10/2005 9:07 AM

On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:21:55 GMT, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>mac davis wrote:
>>> This is for the Ridgid BS1400 bandsaw ...
>>>
>>> Maybe we are looking at two different things? Don't know, but it's very
>>> clearly indicating "Feet" as the unit of measure for resaw capability.
>>
>> Damn... I have that saw, with riser block.. does that mean that I can resaw 12
>> foot thick stock? *g*
>
>
>Sure... if you can find a blade.

my guess would be that it would be a lot easier to find the blade than it would
be to AFFORD it.. lol


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

md

mac davis

in reply to "SBO" on 10/10/2005 12:52 PM

15/10/2005 9:06 AM

On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 17:20:51 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"mac davis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>Sure... if you can find a blade.
>>
>> my guess would be that it would be a lot easier to find the blade than it
>> would
>> be to AFFORD it.. lol

>
>Just to give is some perspective,, when I was at the sawmill last weekend,
>they used a 40' blade. They said the cost was about $1000.
>
and they probably sharpen it often... not exactly disposable at a grand a
blade..


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

MS

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN"

in reply to "SBO" on 10/10/2005 12:52 PM

13/10/2005 4:21 PM

mac davis wrote:
>> This is for the Ridgid BS1400 bandsaw ...
>>
>> Maybe we are looking at two different things? Don't know, but it's very
>> clearly indicating "Feet" as the unit of measure for resaw capability.
>
> Damn... I have that saw, with riser block.. does that mean that I can resaw 12
> foot thick stock? *g*


Sure... if you can find a blade.




--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

[email protected]



TT

"Toller"

in reply to "SBO" on 10/10/2005 12:52 PM

12/10/2005 5:00 PM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Toller wrote:
>> "Andy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> >I was pretty amazed that Craftsman or Ridgid would make a 14 foot
>> > bandsaw (14' in OP), and when I checked HD's website to look at the
>> > Ridgid, apparently it's true! Check it out - "smooth running belt
>> > drive that delivers power to resaw up to 6 Ft.' thick oak."
>>
>> Pot calling the kettle black...
>> On my computer it says 6", not 6'.
>
> On mine it says:
>
> 3/4 HP TEFC Induction motor for quiet, smooth running belt drive that
> delivers power to resaw up to 6 Ft.' thick oak.
>
> in two (2) different places on this page:
>
> http://www.homedepot.com/prel80HDUS/EN_US/diy_main/pg_diy.jsp?CNTTYPE=PROD_META&pos=n24&MID=9876&com.broadvision.session.new=Yes&N=2984+3966&CNTKEY=misc%2fsearchResults.jsp
>
You need a better monitor. On mine they are clearly inch symbols.

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "SBO" on 10/10/2005 12:52 PM

14/10/2005 5:20 PM


"mac davis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>Sure... if you can find a blade.
>
> my guess would be that it would be a lot easier to find the blade than it
> would
> be to AFFORD it.. lol
>
>
> mac

Just to give is some perspective,, when I was at the sawmill last weekend,
they used a 40' blade. They said the cost was about $1000.

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "SBO" on 10/10/2005 12:52 PM

15/10/2005 3:07 AM


"John Thomas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> and get 100' (feet!) of stock for ~$55. (it's 18tpi, though ...)
>

The sawmill blade was less than 1 tpi. And about 12" wide. I imagine the 18
tpi would have slowed them down a bit ;)

JT

John Thomas

in reply to "SBO" on 10/10/2005 12:52 PM

12/10/2005 6:38 PM

"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

> You need a better monitor. On mine they are clearly inch symbols

Hm. My 21" Philips clearly shows the text as 6Ft' <-- note the single
quote. In two seperate places.

This is for the Ridgid BS1400 bandsaw ...

Maybe we are looking at two different things? Don't know, but it's very
clearly indicating "Feet" as the unit of measure for resaw capability.
--
Regards,

JT
Speaking only for myself....

JT

John Thomas

in reply to "SBO" on 10/10/2005 12:52 PM

14/10/2005 7:24 PM

"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in news:TNR3f.14$da1.10@trndny04:

> Just to give is some perspective,, when I was at the sawmill last
> weekend, they used a 40' blade. They said the cost was about $1000.
>
>

Ah, but if you don't care too much about tooth count, you could always
go here:

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=42376

and get 100' (feet!) of stock for ~$55. (it's 18tpi, though ...)

--
Regards,

JT
Speaking only for myself....

md

mac davis

in reply to "SBO" on 10/10/2005 12:52 PM

12/10/2005 8:50 AM

On 11 Oct 2005 14:35:37 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

>
>nospam wrote:
>> Very true! Emerson Electric now manufactures the Rigid line for HD
>> (although I hope to better standards and specifications) At least
>> they did a good job with the new contractor's saw.
>>
>> Sears went searching for a new supplier. The found Ryobi. I'll leave
>> the quality discussion up to you.
>>
>
>
>Now you have me confused. I read in this NG about a year or so ago
>that Emerson had stopped making stationary power tools for the Ridge
>Tool Company (which are marketed through HD) and that now they are
>made by Ryobi.

not sure how you spell it, but I was told here (this ng) that the ridgid and
grizzly are both made by the "elephant" company in China and are identical...

this would seem logical, since I put a grizzly riser block kit on my ridgid saw
and it works fine... YM (and spelling)MV


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

md

mac davis

in reply to "SBO" on 10/10/2005 12:52 PM

13/10/2005 8:47 AM

On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 21:33:12 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"mac davis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>R-I-D-G-I-D. R-I-D-G-I-D. Got that?
>>>
>>>Go look at your tool if you own one as you claim. Or go look at your tool
>>>if
>>>you have one as you claim. If it's rigid, see your wife for assistance.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>The Spelling Police
>>>
>> take your meds and go back to your corner...
>>
>>
>> mac
>>
>Hey, go easy on him. He's probably a Virgo and life is tough when you see
>things out of order like that. Bad spelling is worse than coloring outside
>the lines.
>
He/she/it needs to troll an English Lit. group or something..

jest maks mee wanna tel himm to fuk offf


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

WT

"World Traveler"

in reply to "SBO" on 10/10/2005 12:52 PM

10/10/2005 11:01 PM

A few years ago, an article in Forbes magazine said that Home Depot had
out-maneuvered Sears and started used the Craftsman OEM (Emerson) to
manufacture tools, putting them under the Ridgid logo. The Ridgid tablesaw
that I bought at that time sure looked like the earlier Craftsman items --
in fact, HD was giving a $100 trade-in to everyone who turned in a Sears
tablesaw and bought a Ridgid. This forced Sears to go to a new supplier.

The Ridgid line of tools uses the name from Ridge Road plumbing supplies,
with HD manipulating things behind the scenes. (HD did a similar operation
for a couple of years in the '90s, when they started to market lawn tractors
built by John Deere, under the "Scotts" logo.)

So the "new" Ridgid came from the manufacturer of the "old" Craftsman . . .
or so I've read -- Regards --

"SBO" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:o%[email protected]...
>I look for a 14' bandsaw. I saw that Craftman professional and Ridgid seem
>to be the same. Is this the same thing?
>
> S.B.
>

md

mac davis

in reply to "SBO" on 10/10/2005 12:52 PM

12/10/2005 8:28 AM

On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 17:23:34 GMT, "The Spelling Police"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>mac davis wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 23:01:32 GMT, "World Traveler" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> A few years ago, an article in Forbes magazine said that Home Depot had
>>> out-maneuvered Sears and started used the Craftsman OEM (Emerson) to
>>> manufacture tools, putting them under the Ridgid logo. The Ridgid tablesaw
>>> that I bought at that time sure looked like the earlier Craftsman items --
>>> in fact, HD was giving a $100 trade-in to everyone who turned in a Sears
>>> tablesaw and bought a Ridgid. This forced Sears to go to a new supplier.
>>
>> As I understand it, the ridged and grizzly 14" BS's are identical and made by
>> the chiwanese... the craftsman doesn't look anything like my ridged, except
>> for the size of the wheels..
>
>
>You guys are driving me CRAZY !!!! Learn how to spell the name. If it ain't
>"rigid"... it needs some Viagra. If it ain't "ridged", it must be flat. If it
>ain't "Ridgid", it must be a Grizzly.
>
>R-I-D-G-I-D. R-I-D-G-I-D. Got that?
>
>Go look at your tool if you own one as you claim. Or go look at your tool if
>you have one as you claim. If it's rigid, see your wife for assistance.
>
>
>
>The Spelling Police
>
take your meds and go back to your corner...


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

TS

"The Spelling Police"

in reply to "SBO" on 10/10/2005 12:52 PM

11/10/2005 5:23 PM

mac davis wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 23:01:32 GMT, "World Traveler" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> A few years ago, an article in Forbes magazine said that Home Depot had
>> out-maneuvered Sears and started used the Craftsman OEM (Emerson) to
>> manufacture tools, putting them under the Ridgid logo. The Ridgid tablesaw
>> that I bought at that time sure looked like the earlier Craftsman items --
>> in fact, HD was giving a $100 trade-in to everyone who turned in a Sears
>> tablesaw and bought a Ridgid. This forced Sears to go to a new supplier.
>
> As I understand it, the ridged and grizzly 14" BS's are identical and made by
> the chiwanese... the craftsman doesn't look anything like my ridged, except
> for the size of the wheels..


You guys are driving me CRAZY !!!! Learn how to spell the name. If it ain't
"rigid"... it needs some Viagra. If it ain't "ridged", it must be flat. If it
ain't "Ridgid", it must be a Grizzly.

R-I-D-G-I-D. R-I-D-G-I-D. Got that?

Go look at your tool if you own one as you claim. Or go look at your tool if
you have one as you claim. If it's rigid, see your wife for assistance.



The Spelling Police

md

mac davis

in reply to "SBO" on 10/10/2005 12:52 PM

11/10/2005 8:54 AM

On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 23:01:32 GMT, "World Traveler" <[email protected]> wrote:

>A few years ago, an article in Forbes magazine said that Home Depot had
>out-maneuvered Sears and started used the Craftsman OEM (Emerson) to
>manufacture tools, putting them under the Ridgid logo. The Ridgid tablesaw
>that I bought at that time sure looked like the earlier Craftsman items --
>in fact, HD was giving a $100 trade-in to everyone who turned in a Sears
>tablesaw and bought a Ridgid. This forced Sears to go to a new supplier.
>
>The Ridgid line of tools uses the name from Ridge Road plumbing supplies,
>with HD manipulating things behind the scenes. (HD did a similar operation
>for a couple of years in the '90s, when they started to market lawn tractors
>built by John Deere, under the "Scotts" logo.)
>
>So the "new" Ridgid came from the manufacturer of the "old" Craftsman . . .
>or so I've read -- Regards --
>
>"SBO" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:o%[email protected]...
>>I look for a 14' bandsaw. I saw that Craftman professional and Ridgid seem
>>to be the same. Is this the same thing?
>>
>> S.B.
>>
>
As I understand it, the ridged and grizzly 14" BS's are identical and made by
the chiwanese... the craftsman doesn't look anything like my ridged, except for
the size of the wheels..



mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

md

mac davis

in reply to "SBO" on 10/10/2005 12:52 PM

13/10/2005 8:45 AM

On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 18:38:24 +0000 (UTC), John Thomas <[email protected]>
wrote:

>"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
>> You need a better monitor. On mine they are clearly inch symbols
>
>Hm. My 21" Philips clearly shows the text as 6Ft' <-- note the single
>quote. In two seperate places.
>
>This is for the Ridgid BS1400 bandsaw ...
>
>Maybe we are looking at two different things? Don't know, but it's very
>clearly indicating "Feet" as the unit of measure for resaw capability.

Damn... I have that saw, with riser block.. does that mean that I can resaw 12
foot thick stock? *g*



mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "SBO" on 10/10/2005 12:52 PM

12/10/2005 9:33 PM


"mac davis" <[email protected]> wrote in message

<[email protected]> wrote:
>>R-I-D-G-I-D. R-I-D-G-I-D. Got that?
>>
>>Go look at your tool if you own one as you claim. Or go look at your tool
>>if
>>you have one as you claim. If it's rigid, see your wife for assistance.
>>
>>
>>
>>The Spelling Police
>>
> take your meds and go back to your corner...
>
>
> mac
>
Hey, go easy on him. He's probably a Virgo and life is tough when you see
things out of order like that. Bad spelling is worse than coloring outside
the lines.

TT

"Toller"

in reply to "SBO" on 10/10/2005 12:52 PM

10/10/2005 5:42 PM


"Andy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I was pretty amazed that Craftsman or Ridgid would make a 14 foot
> bandsaw (14' in OP), and when I checked HD's website to look at the
> Ridgid, apparently it's true! Check it out - "smooth running belt
> drive that delivers power to resaw up to 6 Ft.' thick oak."

Pot calling the kettle black...
On my computer it says 6", not 6'.


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