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Dominick Fiumara

13/10/2003 6:39 AM

Diamonds on a tape measure

Why are there diamonds on a tape measure. You know....the little black
ones. What do they indicate?
Cheers!
Dominick
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This topic has 16 replies

DM

"Dennis M. O'Connor"

in reply to Dominick Fiumara on 13/10/2003 6:39 AM

13/10/2003 10:46 PM

"YesMaam27577" <[email protected]> wrote om...
> In general, the red diamonds are 16" apart, allowing 4 studs (and
> three spaces) to support a 4' sheet of ply or drywall.
>
> And the black ones are about 19.2", allowing six studs (five spaces)
> to support an 8' sheet. (This is primarily used in commercial work,
> where steel studs are used to hold long sheets -- 12' and longer -- of
> drywall.)

It's also the spacing on the pre-fab wood trusses holding up
the roof of my addition, because the engineer at the truss plant
said we needed that _or_ 2x6 top chords to make the trusses
stiff enough that the ceiling drywall wouldn't crack, so I said
"Do both."

"Over-built" (like "over-kill") is an oxymoron. :-)
--
Dennis M. O'Connor [email protected]


JB

"Jeff Balcom"

in reply to Dominick Fiumara on 13/10/2003 6:39 AM

15/10/2003 4:42 AM

> >>>
> >>>>Why are there diamonds on a tape measure. You know....the little black
> >>>>ones. What do they indicate?
> >>>
> >>> How far apart are they? If 16", they're for laying out studs. If
> >>>not, then I don't know either.

They are 19.2 inches apart and they are used for setting wood ibeam floor
joist.They are much stronger than
2x.Ofcourse much more costly too.

YC

"Young Carpenter"

in reply to Dominick Fiumara on 13/10/2003 6:39 AM

13/10/2003 7:30 PM

I just love to hear the replies when someone asks this question. Everyone
has a different opinion. And it's interesting to see the uses by the guys
who didn't have a clue and came up with their own uses.
It is a framing mark, and it is used as a layout for certain trussing, I
used them in school for Truss-joist systems.

--
Young Carpenter

"Violin playing and Woodworking are similar, it takes plenty of money,
plenty of practice, and you usually make way more noise than intended"

{Put the fiddler back "on" the roof to reply}
"Dominick Fiumara" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Why are there diamonds on a tape measure. You know....the little black
> ones. What do they indicate?
> Cheers!
> Dominick
> --
> Dominick Fiumare Email: [email protected]
> Facilities & Services Voice: 505-646-2529
> New Mexico State Univ., Box 30001, MSC 3545 Fax: 505-646-1269
> Las Cruces, NM 88003




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"George M. Kazaka"

in reply to Dominick Fiumara on 13/10/2003 6:39 AM

13/10/2003 11:04 AM

Yes they are at approc 19-3/16" a little heavy
"mttt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > > Why are there diamonds on a tape measure. You know....the little black
> > > ones. What do they indicate?
>
> If they're 19.2 inches apart - truss layout.
> http://www.asktooltalk.com/home/qanda/faq/tools/tapemeasure.htm
>
>

a

in reply to Dominick Fiumara on 13/10/2003 6:39 AM

14/10/2003 5:29 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
Grandpa <jsdebooATcomcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:10:43 GMT, Scott Cramer
>> <[email protected]> pixelated:
>>
>>
>>>On 13 Oct 2003, Dominick Fiumara spake unto rec.woodworking:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Why are there diamonds on a tape measure. You know....the little black
>>>>ones. What do they indicate?
>>>
>>> How far apart are they? If 16", they're for laying out studs. If
>>>not, then I don't know either.
>>
>>
>> Ayup. Constructioncritters use 'em for laying out tubafores.
>>
>Wussa tubafore? Sumfin ya play ina marchin band?
>

Nah! but it's been known to be wrapped in a marichino band

it's the appitizer you have, before the tuba-ate.

SC

Scott Cramer

in reply to Dominick Fiumara on 13/10/2003 6:39 AM

13/10/2003 2:10 PM

On 13 Oct 2003, Dominick Fiumara spake unto rec.woodworking:

> Why are there diamonds on a tape measure. You know....the little black
> ones. What do they indicate?

How far apart are they? If 16", they're for laying out studs. If
not, then I don't know either.

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to Dominick Fiumara on 13/10/2003 6:39 AM

13/10/2003 8:43 PM



> Why are there diamonds on a tape measure. You know....the little black
> ones.


That's the woman's version. Some have rubies.


xx

"xEcute"

in reply to Dominick Fiumara on 13/10/2003 6:39 AM

13/10/2003 5:31 PM

I was told many years ago by an old craftsman that the diamonds were for
gauging wallpaper as each mark represented a rolls width. This was back it
the days before the wallpaper came pre-trim to width.

DY

[email protected] (YesMaam27577)

in reply to Dominick Fiumara on 13/10/2003 6:39 AM

13/10/2003 1:47 PM

In general, the red diamonds are 16" apart, allowing 4 studs (and
three spaces) to support a 4' sheet of ply or drywall.

And the black ones are about 19.2", allowing six studs (five spaces)
to support an 8' sheet. (This is primarily used in commercial work,
where steel studs are used to hold long sheets -- 12' and longer -- of
drywall.)



Dominick Fiumara <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Why are there diamonds on a tape measure. You know....the little black
> ones. What do they indicate?
> Cheers!
> Dominick

Gj

Grandpa

in reply to Dominick Fiumara on 13/10/2003 6:39 AM

13/10/2003 10:54 PM

Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:10:43 GMT, Scott Cramer
> <[email protected]> pixelated:
>
>
>>On 13 Oct 2003, Dominick Fiumara spake unto rec.woodworking:
>>
>>
>>>Why are there diamonds on a tape measure. You know....the little black
>>>ones. What do they indicate?
>>
>> How far apart are they? If 16", they're for laying out studs. If
>>not, then I don't know either.
>
>
> Ayup. Constructioncritters use 'em for laying out tubafores.
>
Wussa tubafore? Sumfin ya play ina marchin band?

md

"mttt"

in reply to Dominick Fiumara on 13/10/2003 6:39 AM

13/10/2003 3:35 PM

> > Why are there diamonds on a tape measure. You know....the little black
> > ones. What do they indicate?

If they're 19.2 inches apart - truss layout.
http://www.asktooltalk.com/home/qanda/faq/tools/tapemeasure.htm

TW

Traves W. Coppock

in reply to Dominick Fiumara on 13/10/2003 6:39 AM

14/10/2003 2:15 PM

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:54:55 -0600, Grandpa <jsdebooATcomcast.net>
Crawled out of the shop and said. . .:

>Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:10:43 GMT, Scott Cramer
>> <[email protected]> pixelated:
>>
>>
>>>On 13 Oct 2003, Dominick Fiumara spake unto rec.woodworking:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Why are there diamonds on a tape measure. You know....the little black
>>>>ones. What do they indicate?
>>>
>>> How far apart are they? If 16", they're for laying out studs. If
>>>not, then I don't know either.
>>
>>
>> Ayup. Constructioncritters use 'em for laying out tubafores.
>>
>Wussa tubafore? Sumfin ya play ina marchin band?

Its kinda like a dickiefore

Traves

Jj

"JD"

in reply to Dominick Fiumara on 13/10/2003 6:39 AM

13/10/2003 2:27 PM

They are typically 16' on center for laying out studs in wood frame
construction.

-Jack

"Dominick Fiumara" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Why are there diamonds on a tape measure. You know....the little black
> ones. What do they indicate?
> Cheers!
> Dominick
> --
> Dominick Fiumare Email: [email protected]
> Facilities & Services Voice: 505-646-2529
> New Mexico State Univ., Box 30001, MSC 3545 Fax: 505-646-1269
> Las Cruces, NM 88003

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Dominick Fiumara on 13/10/2003 6:39 AM

14/10/2003 1:20 AM

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:10:43 GMT, Scott Cramer
<[email protected]> pixelated:

>On 13 Oct 2003, Dominick Fiumara spake unto rec.woodworking:
>
>> Why are there diamonds on a tape measure. You know....the little black
>> ones. What do they indicate?
>
> How far apart are they? If 16", they're for laying out studs. If
>not, then I don't know either.

Ayup. Constructioncritters use 'em for laying out tubafores.

JK

Jim K

in reply to Dominick Fiumara on 13/10/2003 6:39 AM

15/10/2003 12:10 AM

qwarta a forebyate

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:54:55 -0600, Grandpa <jsdebooATcomcast.net>
wrote:

>Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:10:43 GMT, Scott Cramer
>> <[email protected]> pixelated:
>>
>>
>>>On 13 Oct 2003, Dominick Fiumara spake unto rec.woodworking:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Why are there diamonds on a tape measure. You know....the little black
>>>>ones. What do they indicate?
>>>
>>> How far apart are they? If 16", they're for laying out studs. If
>>>not, then I don't know either.
>>
>>
>> Ayup. Constructioncritters use 'em for laying out tubafores.
>>
>Wussa tubafore? Sumfin ya play ina marchin band?

DD

DJ Delorie

in reply to Dominick Fiumara on 13/10/2003 6:39 AM

13/10/2003 12:45 PM


Dominick Fiumara <[email protected]> writes:
> Why are there diamonds on a tape measure. You know....the little black
> ones. What do they indicate?

They're for spacing things five to the 8' panel. Usually, studs are
16" on center (the red marks), or 6 per 8'. The black diamonds are 5
per 8', and every two feet makes 4 per 8'.

The down side of 5 per 8' is that you don't have anything at the 4'
mark so you can't alternate your 4x8 panels like you do with 16"
spacing. You'd have to use a different pattern.


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