RP

"RzB"

27/01/2004 9:04 PM

Spokeshave - L-N vs L V

Does anyone know where I might find a
review that compares the Lie-Nielsen
and Veritas spokeshaves.

Or perhaps someone has some observations...

Many thanks,
Roy


This topic has 14 replies

RP

"RzB"

in reply to "RzB" on 27/01/2004 9:04 PM

28/01/2004 8:38 PM

George,
Many thanks for your response. That is an interesting
observation. What do you think is better about the
design of the Veritas version. Is this borne out by use?
Roy

RH

"Roy Hickman"

in reply to "RzB" on 27/01/2004 9:04 PM

28/01/2004 11:26 AM

I'll look forward to seeing those plans, also.
Regards, Roy Hickman

"A Dubya" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hey Roy,
>
> Just a quick note, you can buy Hock spokeshave blades and make your
own real
> quick.
>
> As for convex and concave spokeshaves, I have the Cliftons,
excellent
> weight, not much work to get them tuned up, and beautiful to work
with.
>
> If anyone wants plans for spokeshave bodies, that work with Ron
Hock's
> spokeshave blades, let me know, I'll work on posting some.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Andy
>
>

Gs

"George"

in reply to "RzB" on 27/01/2004 9:04 PM

27/01/2004 4:41 PM

Veritas low angles are superb. I am a former user of the patterns
reproduced by LN, and though the LNs are undoubtedly of better quality (the
planes are), the design is inferior in my opinion to the LV low angles.

"RzB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Does anyone know where I might find a
> review that compares the Lie-Nielsen
> and Veritas spokeshaves.
>
> Or perhaps someone has some observations...

Nn

Nova

in reply to "RzB" on 27/01/2004 9:04 PM

27/01/2004 7:42 PM

TomL wrote:

> On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 16:41:30 -0500, "A Dubya" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >If anyone wants plans for spokeshave bodies, that work with Ron Hock's
> >spokeshave blades, let me know, I'll work on posting some.
>
> I'd appreciate those plans.

You have also what to check the article John Gunterman (formerly known as
Spokeshave) has on his web site:

http://www.shavings.net/TEACHSHAVE.HTM

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
(Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)

Gs

"George"

in reply to "RzB" on 27/01/2004 9:04 PM

28/01/2004 4:50 PM

Would I have said it if I didn't think so?

My acid test for usability is always the same - HS IA students. Those
kids learned to pull a shaving off of end grain with the LV shaves in ten
minutes or less. If I open 'em up a bit, I can hog green cherry so fast I
hardly even reach for my drawknife any more. The geometry of the shave when
used for concave curves could be better. You have to pitch the handles up
until you grab a shaving, where, if it were an exclusively curved, they
could pitch the rear up for a more natural grip.

When I'm lazy, I won't even bother to grip the piece in the shavehorse,
preferring to use the shave one-handed, while holding the piece with the
other. With a 1/8" A2 iron, it's going to cut anything without chatter.

There's another thread going on about making low-angle shaves, but they are
of the older wedged adjustment pattern which is a bit more slippy than the
Veritas, and in my experience, more prone to chatter as well.

"RzB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> George,
> Many thanks for your response. That is an interesting
> observation. What do you think is better about the
> design of the Veritas version. Is this borne out by use?
> Roy
>
>

cC

[email protected] (Conan the Librarian)

in reply to "RzB" on 27/01/2004 9:04 PM

27/01/2004 7:20 PM

"A Dubya" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

> If anyone wants plans for spokeshave bodies, that work with Ron Hock's
> spokeshave blades, let me know, I'll work on posting some.

Check out: http://www.shavings.net/TEACHSHAVE.HTM


Chuck Vance

Ba

B a r r y B u r k e J r .

in reply to "RzB" on 27/01/2004 9:04 PM

28/01/2004 3:23 AM

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:42:02 -0500, Nova <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>You have also what to check the article John Gunterman

I know him as Clydesdale Mountain Biker. <G>

Barry

AD

Andy Dingley

in reply to "RzB" on 27/01/2004 9:04 PM

28/01/2004 11:33 PM

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 20:38:13 -0000, "RzB" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>What do you think is better about the
>design of the Veritas version.

Only game in town. No-one else makes a metal-bodied low angle
spokeshave - like a wooden one, only metal. Hardly anyone still makes
a wooden one.

--
Die Gotterspammerung - Junkmail of the Gods

Tt

TomL

in reply to "RzB" on 27/01/2004 9:04 PM

27/01/2004 11:36 PM

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 16:41:30 -0500, "A Dubya" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Hey Roy,
>
>Just a quick note, you can buy Hock spokeshave blades and make your own real
>quick.
>
>As for convex and concave spokeshaves, I have the Cliftons, excellent
>weight, not much work to get them tuned up, and beautiful to work with.
>
>If anyone wants plans for spokeshave bodies, that work with Ron Hock's
>spokeshave blades, let me know, I'll work on posting some.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Andy
>

I'd appreciate those plans.

TomL

Pm

"Paul macintyre"

in reply to "RzB" on 27/01/2004 9:04 PM

28/01/2004 4:08 AM



----------
In article <[email protected]>, B a r r y B u r k e
J r . <[email protected]> wrote:


>
>
> On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:42:02 -0500, Nova <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>You have also what to check the article John Gunterman
>
> I know him as Clydesdale Mountain Biker. <G>
>
> Barry

or MPD Blue

Mi

"Mike in Idaho"

in reply to "RzB" on 27/01/2004 9:04 PM

27/01/2004 10:58 PM

Andy,

I'd love to have some plans for making my own spokeshaves, I've been wanting
a set for awhile now but they haven't hit the top of my priority list yet so
I'm still waiting, but this might do it for me :)

Thanks,
Mike

"A Dubya" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hey Roy,
>
> Just a quick note, you can buy Hock spokeshave blades and make your own
real
> quick.
>
> As for convex and concave spokeshaves, I have the Cliftons, excellent
> weight, not much work to get them tuned up, and beautiful to work with.
>
> If anyone wants plans for spokeshave bodies, that work with Ron Hock's
> spokeshave blades, let me know, I'll work on posting some.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Andy
>
>

AD

"A Dubya"

in reply to "RzB" on 27/01/2004 9:04 PM

27/01/2004 4:41 PM

Hey Roy,

Just a quick note, you can buy Hock spokeshave blades and make your own real
quick.

As for convex and concave spokeshaves, I have the Cliftons, excellent
weight, not much work to get them tuned up, and beautiful to work with.

If anyone wants plans for spokeshave bodies, that work with Ron Hock's
spokeshave blades, let me know, I'll work on posting some.

Cheers,

Andy

RP

"RzB"

in reply to "RzB" on 27/01/2004 9:04 PM

28/01/2004 8:47 PM

Andy,
Many thanks for your response. I have not
really thought too much about making my
own but you have given me some food
for thought. I would love to see the
plans that you have - there are some at
http://www.shavings.net/TEACHSHAVE.HTM
as others have pointed out in recent posts
to this thread.

Yes I have been tempted by the Cliftons.
My local S/H tool shop
http://www.pennyfarthingtools.co.uk/
has some that I have been drooling over
for weeks. Your post will probably tip me
over the edge at the weekend :-)

Do you have any experience with the L-N
and Veritas versions?

Thanks,
Roy

Jj

Joe

in reply to "RzB" on 27/01/2004 9:04 PM

27/01/2004 7:58 PM

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 16:41:30 -0500, "A Dubya" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>If anyone wants plans for spokeshave bodies, that work with Ron Hock's
>spokeshave blades, let me know, I'll work on posting some.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Andy
>
That would be a nice idea. I have a very cheap cast something
spokeshave body which isn't too bad.
It is the only I've ever used though. But I keep thinking that I
could likely make something better.

Joe


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