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Rob H.

03/07/2014 12:51 AM

What is it? Set 552

This week I need some help with 3223, 3227, and 3228:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/

Larger images:

http://imgur.com/gallery/sOBHf/new


Rob


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TC

"Terry Coombs"

in reply to Rob H. on 03/07/2014 12:51 AM

03/07/2014 4:49 PM

Rob H. wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Mark Brader
> says...
>>
>> 3226 - A ballot box?
>
> Nope
>
>>
>> 3228 - A trowel used for spreading a measured layer of adhesive over
>> a flat surface, e.g. for tiling a floor. Each notch leaves a
>> consistently sized triangular ridge of adhesive, and then the
>> ridges are flattened into a smooth layer as the tiles are laid.
>
>
> I'm still not sure about this one

It looks like it would do a good job of swirl texture on a ceiling ... Lay
on the mud with a trowel and make J motions with the tool .

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[email protected] (Mark Brader)

in reply to Rob H. on 03/07/2014 12:51 AM

03/07/2014 3:14 AM

3226 - A ballot box?

3228 - A trowel used for spreading a measured layer of adhesive over
a flat surface, e.g. for tiling a floor. Each notch leaves a
consistently sized triangular ridge of adhesive, and then the
ridges are flattened into a smooth layer as the tiles are laid.
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"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to Rob H. on 03/07/2014 12:51 AM

03/07/2014 7:47 AM

> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> This week I need some help with 3223, 3227, and 3228:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

I can't know for sure, but I'll bet 3223 is a crank for turning an engine
slightly when trying to insert a tranny shaft into the clutch spline.
Looks like it goes in where the starter would, and allows you to just
'tweak' the engine to a new position. It's probably for a _specific_
engine, so was likely a 'factory' tool.

LLoyd

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Ted Schuerzinger

in reply to Rob H. on 03/07/2014 12:51 AM

03/07/2014 7:26 AM

On 3 Jul 2014 00:51:54 -0700, Rob H. wrote:

> This week I need some help with 3223, 3227, and 3228:

I preume the (price) tags attached to #3227 and #3228 didn't have any
information about what they are?

3228 looks like the thing you'd use to decorate the icing on the side of
a cake, but not in metal like that.

3223 looks like it should work like a socket wrench, but I presume
there's no socket?

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"Paul K. Dickman"

in reply to Rob H. on 03/07/2014 12:51 AM

03/07/2014 7:07 AM

3225 is a mainspring compressor for an old weapon (like a musket or trapdoor
springfield) with a long vee shaped mainspring.
It allows you to disassemble the weapon without risking breakage of this
spring.

Paul K. Dickman

"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> This week I need some help with 3223, 3227, and 3228:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/gallery/sOBHf/new
>
>
> Rob
>

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 03/07/2014 12:51 AM

03/07/2014 2:27 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Mark Brader says...
>
>3226 - A ballot box?

Nope

>
>3228 - A trowel used for spreading a measured layer of adhesive over
> a flat surface, e.g. for tiling a floor. Each notch leaves a
> consistently sized triangular ridge of adhesive, and then the
> ridges are flattened into a smooth layer as the tiles are laid.


I'm still not sure about this one

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 03/07/2014 12:51 AM

03/07/2014 2:31 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Ted Schuerzinger
says...
>
>On 3 Jul 2014 00:51:54 -0700, Rob H. wrote:
>
>> This week I need some help with 3223, 3227, and 3228:
>
>I preume the (price) tags attached to #3227 and #3228 didn't have any
>information about what they are?


The tags didn't have any information other than the owner's name, the photos
were from a tool collectors meeting.


>
>3228 looks like the thing you'd use to decorate the icing on the side of
>a cake, but not in metal like that.
>
>3223 looks like it should work like a socket wrench, but I presume
>there's no socket?


There weren't any sockets but I'm sure it's possible that something could be
missing from this one.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 03/07/2014 12:51 AM

03/07/2014 2:31 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Paul K. Dickman says...
>
>3225 is a mainspring compressor for an old weapon (like a musket or trapdoor
>springfield) with a long vee shaped mainspring.
>It allows you to disassemble the weapon without risking breakage of this
>spring.


Correct!

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 03/07/2014 12:51 AM

03/07/2014 2:32 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Lloyd E.
Sponenburgh says...
>
>> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> This week I need some help with 3223, 3227, and 3228:
>>>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>I can't know for sure, but I'll bet 3223 is a crank for turning an engine
>slightly when trying to insert a tranny shaft into the clutch spline.
>Looks like it goes in where the starter would, and allows you to just
>'tweak' the engine to a new position. It's probably for a _specific_
>engine, so was likely a 'factory' tool.
>
>LLoyd


Sounds reasonable but I'm still looking for a good reference for this tool.

Bl

Baxter

in reply to Rob H. on 03/07/2014 12:51 AM

03/07/2014 9:47 PM

Rob H. wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>, Mark Brader
> says...
>>
>>3226 - A ballot box?
>
> Nope
>
I'd guess some sort of weaponry from wooden ship days - perhaps about the
Civil War

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Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 03/07/2014 12:51 AM

04/07/2014 12:11 PM


>3226) A naval mine from (I think) the civil war period, based on the
> sparsity of stars on the flags. None are shown completely, so I
> can't be sure how many are present.


I took the photos at an American history auction, the flags are not necessarily
from the same time as torpedo, but you are right about it being from the civil
war.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 03/07/2014 12:51 AM

04/07/2014 12:18 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
>
>3227: further thought: the part with the through bolt looks like a handle o=
>f a style that was seen late 19th centuryish time range. Maybe the assembly=
> is a removable handle for something, such as lifting or flipping parts in =
>a factory, or machine covers? the tab on the right slips into a slot/under =
>something, and the handle is used to lift?


I was also thinking that this tool was for lifting or levering something, but it
seems home made based on the weld and the lower bolt looking like it would
interfere with getting a good grip on the handle.

So far I only have three answers for this set:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2014/07/set-552.html#answers


Rob

Bb

Bluey69

in reply to Rob H. on 03/07/2014 12:51 AM

04/07/2014 2:24 PM

On 3/07/2014 5:21 PM, Rob H. wrote:
> This week I need some help with 3223, 3227, and 3228:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/gallery/sOBHf/new
>
>
> Rob
>
3224
is amicrometer for measuring groove or key way depth in round bars or
similar .
The base of the micrometer has a vee groove to center it on a round part .

3226 a civil war floating mine made from a powder barrel

h

in reply to Rob H. on 03/07/2014 12:51 AM

04/07/2014 7:25 PM

< snips >

>So far I only have three answers for this set:
>
>http://55tools.blogspot.com/2014/07/set-552.html#answers
>
>
>Rob


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"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to Rob H. on 03/07/2014 12:51 AM

04/07/2014 4:47 AM

aOn 2014-07-03, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
> This week I need some help with 3223, 3227, and 3228:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/gallery/sOBHf/new

Posting from the usenet newsgroup rec.crafts.metalworking as
always.

3223) A tool for fine adjusting of something which has a ring gear
on the outside for that purpose. The projecting part is placed
into a hole adjacent to the gear, and pushed down until the
pinion gear on the tool engages the ring gear, and then the
lever is used to rotate that object.

There appears to be a ball detent to hold it in place suggesting
that it is used either horizontally or with the projecting part
pointing up.

Exactly what it is used to adjust is hard to say without knowing
where it came from. :-)

3224) A micrometer for measuring the diameter of a hole through a
round shaft. The V's are placed on the shaft, with the cone
projecting into the hole, with the thimble turned until the cone
contacts the hole firmly on all sides. Then the reading it
taken from the thimble of the micrometer -- and perhaps also
from graduations on the rod (if any) sticking out the other end.

3225) A tool either for bending a small flat spring, or for compressing
it to ease installation into whatever it goes in.

3226) A naval mine from (I think) the civil war period, based on the
sparsity of stars on the flags. None are shown completely, so I
can't be sure how many are present.

3227) Not really sure what it is -- but the ventilated handle
suggests that it is used to deal with hot objects. Perhaps for
smoothing down a hot-glue joint?

3228) This looks like it is intended for spreading a fairly viscous
glue to form into a number of parallel beads which will then
spread out and join when the other piece is placed on top of the
glue.

Now to post this and then see what others have suggested.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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Bluey69

in reply to Rob H. on 03/07/2014 12:51 AM

04/07/2014 2:13 PM

On 3/07/2014 10:17 PM, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
>> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> This week I need some help with 3223, 3227, and 3228:
>>>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> I can't know for sure, but I'll bet 3223 is a crank for turning an engine
> slightly when trying to insert a tranny shaft into the clutch spline.
> Looks like it goes in where the starter would, and allows you to just
> 'tweak' the engine to a new position. It's probably for a _specific_
> engine, so was likely a 'factory' tool.
>
> LLoyd
>


I concur with this , I had a similar tool for hand cranking diesel
engines around to the timing marks when adjusting valves and doing tune
ups.
I fits in the fly wheel housing and engages with the gear teeth on the
fly wheel . Caterpillar engines usually have an opening on left and
right sides of the fly wheel housing where the starter goes , these
tools go in the starter mount thats not being used by the starter

TC

"Terry Coombs"

in reply to Rob H. on 03/07/2014 12:51 AM

03/07/2014 8:20 AM

Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
>> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> This week I need some help with 3223, 3227, and 3228:
>>>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> I can't know for sure, but I'll bet 3223 is a crank for turning an
> engine slightly when trying to insert a tranny shaft into the clutch
> spline. Looks like it goes in where the starter would, and allows you
> to just 'tweak' the engine to a new position. It's probably for a
> _specific_ engine, so was likely a 'factory' tool.
>
> LLoyd

I was thinking the same thing , but I suspect the round part goes in one
of the bell housing bolt holes from the tranny side . Could be as you say
used to turn the crankshaft , but for instance to set each crank throw in
position to bolt on the con rod caps .

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