I have a router table that I'd like to add a T-Track miter slot to. Other
than trimming laminate, I've never tried to put a dado in a melamine top.
I'm concerned that the bit might crack the melamine rather than cut it.
Should I adjust the bit speed or just let 'er rip with a 3/4 straight bit.
Anyone have any hints on this for me?
Thanx,
Vic Baron
--
There are 10 kinds of people - those who understand binary and those who
don't
Can be done without much ado, probably in one pass, carbide required.
Or not at all, see pix link for temporary non-insulting way to
accommodate miter gage:
http://www.patwarner.com/images/mitergage.jpg
Use MDF to trap blade.
**************************
http://www.patwarner.com (Routers)
*****************************************************************************
Vic Baron wrote:
> I have a router table that I'd like to add a T-Track miter slot to. Other
> than trimming laminate, I've never tried to put a dado in a melamine top.
> I'm concerned that the bit might crack the melamine rather than cut it.
> Should I adjust the bit speed or just let 'er rip with a 3/4 straight bit.
>
> Anyone have any hints on this for me?
>
> Thanx,
>
> Vic Baron
>
>
> --
> There are 10 kinds of people - those who understand binary and those who
> don't
Vic Baron wrote:
<snip>
> Aw, I take it from the source. I've found loots of helpful folk here thru
> the years and an occasional dork like pop. I've survived worse. What's funny
> is, I have and know how to use about 6 different routers - I just have never
> dealt with melamine or formica before. Rather ask and look stupid than ruin
> a nice tabletop and feel stupid.
>
> Vic
Actually, if you'd DAGS, you could minimize temptation to folks to give
you response you don't approve of.
Or, lighten up and deal gracefully with consequences of laziness.
If you want to be judgemental, what would you expect in return?
J
Pop` wrote:
> Vic Baron wrote:
>> I have a router table that I'd like to add a T-Track miter slot to.
>> Other than trimming laminate, I've never tried to put a dado in a
>> melamine top. I'm concerned that the bit might crack the melamine
>> rather than cut it. Should I adjust the bit speed or just let 'er rip
>> with a 3/4 straight bit.
>> Anyone have any hints on this for me?
>>
>> Thanx,
>>
>> Vic Baron
>
> Yes: Learn how to use a router an d you won't have such silly questions.
>
>
>
I come here for a bunch of reasons. Initially, it was to learn
techniques, and that still happens, but my main reason for being here
most of the time is a sense of community amongst people who have similar
interests.
Not similar levels of talent by any means. The range in here is from
absolute newcomer to everything, to wizened old master who knows more in
his thumb than I'll ever hope to know.
What I don't come here for (and thankfully it happens very rarely) is
that know-it-all-but-don't-help-anyone attitude that was shown in Pop's
response to Vic.
I'll say it again, Vic. Most of the people in here who have an ounce of
talent are more than willing to help anyone who's interested in helping
themselves. Which you seem to be.
I'm not gonna plonk ya Pop. Not yet. I'd miss too much. But I can be a
PITA sometimes too.
You have a good day now.
Tanus
--
This is not really a sig.
>Anyone have any hints on this for me?
>
>Thanx,
>
>Vic Baron
Did that on my table. I put grooves at each long side to lay in some
T-track. Great for fence and jig hold downs. I also cut a miter
slot pependicular to the T-track although it dosn't get much use.
Should have put in another T-track for featherboard (etc) hold down.
I did the cuts in one pass moving fairly slowly. Maybe should have
cut in 2 or more passes to make it easier on the bit and router. I
was going through the melamine (formica) and 3/4 MDF.
Pete
"Pop`" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Vic Baron wrote:
>> I have a router table that I'd like to add a T-Track miter slot to.
>> Other than trimming laminate, I've never tried to put a dado in a
>> melamine top. I'm concerned that the bit might crack the melamine
>> rather than cut it. Should I adjust the bit speed or just let 'er rip
>> with a 3/4 straight bit.
>> Anyone have any hints on this for me?
>>
>> Thanx,
>>
>> Vic Baron
>
> Yes: Learn how to use a router an d you won't have such silly questions.
>
>
>
PLONK bozo!
Vic Baron wrote:
> I have a router table that I'd like to add a T-Track miter slot to.
> Other than trimming laminate, I've never tried to put a dado in a
> melamine top. I'm concerned that the bit might crack the melamine
> rather than cut it. Should I adjust the bit speed or just let 'er
> rip with a 3/4 straight bit.
>
> Anyone have any hints on this for me?
A router bit - one without a skewed edge - doesn't tend to chip
melamine like a saw blade. The saw blade is pushing the melamine down
and that cracks it; the router bit is cutting parallel to the surface,
no "push". Still, the plastic *will* chip from time to time. A very
shallow pass just cutting the melamine followed by full depth should
work.
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<[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
>>Anyone have any hints on this for me?
>>
>>Thanx,
>>
>>Vic Baron
>
> Did that on my table. I put grooves at each long side to lay in some
> T-track. Great for fence and jig hold downs. I also cut a miter
> slot pependicular to the T-track although it dosn't get much use.
> Should have put in another T-track for featherboard (etc) hold down.
>
> I did the cuts in one pass moving fairly slowly. Maybe should have
> cut in 2 or more passes to make it easier on the bit and router. I
> was going through the melamine (formica) and 3/4 MDF.
>
> Pete
Thanx, Pete. That's exactly what I'm doing. Mainly need it for horizontal
featherboard. I'll probably use an Hitachi M-12V but still make at least two
passes.
Vic
"Tanus" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Pop` wrote:
>> Vic Baron wrote:
>>> I have a router table that I'd like to add a T-Track miter slot to.
>>> Other than trimming laminate, I've never tried to put a dado in a
>>> melamine top. I'm concerned that the bit might crack the melamine
>>> rather than cut it. Should I adjust the bit speed or just let 'er rip
>>> with a 3/4 straight bit.
>>> Anyone have any hints on this for me?
>>>
>>> Thanx,
>>>
>>> Vic Baron
>>
>> Yes: Learn how to use a router an d you won't have such silly questions.
>>
>>
>>
>
> I come here for a bunch of reasons. Initially, it was to learn techniques,
> and that still happens, but my main reason for being here most of the time
> is a sense of community amongst people who have similar interests.
>
> Not similar levels of talent by any means. The range in here is from
> absolute newcomer to everything, to wizened old master who knows more in
> his thumb than I'll ever hope to know.
>
> What I don't come here for (and thankfully it happens very rarely) is that
> know-it-all-but-don't-help-anyone attitude that was shown in Pop's
> response to Vic.
>
> I'll say it again, Vic. Most of the people in here who have an ounce of
> talent are more than willing to help anyone who's interested in helping
> themselves. Which you seem to be.
>
> I'm not gonna plonk ya Pop. Not yet. I'd miss too much. But I can be a
> PITA sometimes too.
>
> You have a good day now.
>
> Tanus
>
> --
Aw, I take it from the source. I've found loots of helpful folk here thru
the years and an occasional dork like pop. I've survived worse. What's funny
is, I have and know how to use about 6 different routers - I just have never
dealt with melamine or formica before. Rather ask and look stupid than ruin
a nice tabletop and feel stupid.
Vic
"Tim Taylor" <[email protected]> wrote in
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>
> "Vic Baron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:ObQBg.2467$%[email protected]...
>>
<snip>
>>
>> Aw, I take it from the source. I've found loots of helpful folk here
>> thru the years and an occasional dork like pop. I've survived worse.
>> What's funny is, I have and know how to use about 6 different routers
>> - I just have never dealt with melamine or formica before. Rather ask
>> and look stupid than ruin a nice tabletop and feel stupid.
>>
>> Vic
>>
> It was told to me more than once, You don't know till you ask! Gotta
> overlook a lot of things in life.
>
One doesn't HAVE to ask. One can do stupid things all on one's own.
This I know from personal experience. ;-)
Patriarch,
learning every day...
"Patriarch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Tim Taylor" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>> "Vic Baron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:ObQBg.2467$%[email protected]...
>>>
> <snip>
>>>
>>> Aw, I take it from the source. I've found loots of helpful folk here
>>> thru the years and an occasional dork like pop. I've survived worse.
>>> What's funny is, I have and know how to use about 6 different routers
>>> - I just have never dealt with melamine or formica before. Rather ask
>>> and look stupid than ruin a nice tabletop and feel stupid.
>>>
>>> Vic
>>>
>> It was told to me more than once, You don't know till you ask! Gotta
>> overlook a lot of things in life.
>>
>
> One doesn't HAVE to ask. One can do stupid things all on one's own.
>
> This I know from personal experience. ;-)
>
> Patriarch,
> learning every day...
ROFLMAO!
Vic
Vic Baron wrote:
> I have a router table that I'd like to add a T-Track miter slot to.
> Other than trimming laminate, I've never tried to put a dado in a
> melamine top. I'm concerned that the bit might crack the melamine
> rather than cut it. Should I adjust the bit speed or just let 'er rip
> with a 3/4 straight bit.
> Anyone have any hints on this for me?
>
> Thanx,
>
> Vic Baron
Yes: Learn how to use a router an d you won't have such silly questions.
Thanx Pat. Just didn't want any surprises.
Vic
<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Can be done without much ado, probably in one pass, carbide required.
> Or not at all, see pix link for temporary non-insulting way to
> accommodate miter gage:
> http://www.patwarner.com/images/mitergage.jpg
> Use MDF to trap blade.
> **************************
> http://www.patwarner.com (Routers)
> *****************************************************************************
> Vic Baron wrote:
>> I have a router table that I'd like to add a T-Track miter slot to. Other
>> than trimming laminate, I've never tried to put a dado in a melamine top.
>> I'm concerned that the bit might crack the melamine rather than cut it.
>> Should I adjust the bit speed or just let 'er rip with a 3/4 straight
>> bit.
>>
>> Anyone have any hints on this for me?
>>
>> Thanx,
>>
>> Vic Baron
>>
>>
>> --
>> There are 10 kinds of people - those who understand binary and those who
>> don't
>
"DJ Delorie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> One trick I use for laminates is to make your first pass just barely
> touch the surface (say 1/64" or so deep for Formica, just "kissing"
> the surface for melamine). That way, the laminate has as much support
> under it as possible for that first critical cut.
Good point. I'll give that a try!
Thanx,
Vic
"Patriarch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Tim Taylor" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>> "Vic Baron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:ObQBg.2467$%[email protected]...
>>>
> <snip>
>>>
>>> Aw, I take it from the source. I've found loots of helpful folk here
>>> thru the years and an occasional dork like pop. I've survived worse.
>>> What's funny is, I have and know how to use about 6 different routers
>>> - I just have never dealt with melamine or formica before. Rather ask
>>> and look stupid than ruin a nice tabletop and feel stupid.
>>>
>>> Vic
>>>
>> It was told to me more than once, You don't know till you ask! Gotta
>> overlook a lot of things in life.
>>
>
> One doesn't HAVE to ask. One can do stupid things all on one's own.
>
> This I know from personal experience. ;-)
>
> Patriarch,
> learning every day...
LOL SWEET!!!! Know xactly wut ya meen!!!
Router will have no problem, but the bit will dull
VERY quickly if you use it a lot for melamine. That
is a VERY hard finish.
Vic Baron wrote:
> I have a router table that I'd like to add a T-Track miter slot to. Other
> than trimming laminate, I've never tried to put a dado in a melamine top.
> I'm concerned that the bit might crack the melamine rather than cut it.
> Should I adjust the bit speed or just let 'er rip with a 3/4 straight bit.
>
> Anyone have any hints on this for me?
>
> Thanx,
>
> Vic Baron
>
>
"Vic Baron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:ObQBg.2467$%[email protected]...
>
> "Tanus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Pop` wrote:
>>> Vic Baron wrote:
>>>> I have a router table that I'd like to add a T-Track miter slot to.
>>>> Other than trimming laminate, I've never tried to put a dado in a
>>>> melamine top. I'm concerned that the bit might crack the melamine
>>>> rather than cut it. Should I adjust the bit speed or just let 'er rip
>>>> with a 3/4 straight bit.
>>>> Anyone have any hints on this for me?
>>>>
>>>> Thanx,
>>>>
>>>> Vic Baron
>>>
>>> Yes: Learn how to use a router an d you won't have such silly
>>> questions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I come here for a bunch of reasons. Initially, it was to learn
>> techniques, and that still happens, but my main reason for being here
>> most of the time is a sense of community amongst people who have similar
>> interests.
>>
>> Not similar levels of talent by any means. The range in here is from
>> absolute newcomer to everything, to wizened old master who knows more in
>> his thumb than I'll ever hope to know.
>>
>> What I don't come here for (and thankfully it happens very rarely) is
>> that know-it-all-but-don't-help-anyone attitude that was shown in Pop's
>> response to Vic.
>>
>> I'll say it again, Vic. Most of the people in here who have an ounce of
>> talent are more than willing to help anyone who's interested in helping
>> themselves. Which you seem to be.
>>
>> I'm not gonna plonk ya Pop. Not yet. I'd miss too much. But I can be a
>> PITA sometimes too.
>>
>> You have a good day now.
>>
>> Tanus
>>
>> --
>
>
> Aw, I take it from the source. I've found loots of helpful folk here thru
> the years and an occasional dork like pop. I've survived worse. What's
> funny is, I have and know how to use about 6 different routers - I just
> have never dealt with melamine or formica before. Rather ask and look
> stupid than ruin a nice tabletop and feel stupid.
>
> Vic
>
It was told to me more than once, You don't know till you ask! Gotta
overlook a lot of things in life.
I've routed melamine a number of times with no problems. Make sure you have
a good, sharp, carbide bit. For a 3/4" bit, stick with top speed. If
you're still concerned, you could stick a melamine blade in your table saw
(assuming that you have both) and run the top against your rip fence to
define the sides. I'd still finish cleaning it out with a router to keep
the bottom nice and flat.
"Vic Baron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I have a router table that I'd like to add a T-Track miter slot to. Other
> than trimming laminate, I've never tried to put a dado in a melamine top.
> I'm concerned that the bit might crack the melamine rather than cut it.
> Should I adjust the bit speed or just let 'er rip with a 3/4 straight bit.
>
> Anyone have any hints on this for me?
>
> Thanx,
>
> Vic Baron
>
>
> --
> There are 10 kinds of people - those who understand binary and those who
> don't
>