On 28 Sep 2004 01:58:07 -0700, [email protected] (R.H.) wrote:
>A few more photos have just been posted, I have no idea what number 140 is:
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
>Rob
#140 looks like an optical holding fixture of some sort. Can't find any
link readily to confirm or deny that.
A possible use of #139 would be to split Tonkin Bamboo in the making of
bamboo fly rods - the tooling has always been unique and I have seen
splitter in the 6 strip design very similar to the photo
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> A few more photos have just been posted, I have no idea what number 140
is:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 20:15:50 GMT, R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "Bruce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> 141, obviously a rear rifle sight, perhaps a Mauser version or Krag.
>
> It is a gun sight, but I don't know what type.
It looks very like Mauser, rather than Krag. I've also never seen
one bent like that so I'd guess it has been bent after leaving the
factory. Front-hinged, so it has the "roller coaster" type
assembly on the top of the barrel that the elevation slider
adjusts on. Initial guess is 1893 or newer; the 1891 had the
hinge pin at the other end. I can take a look tonight to see which
of my Mausers' sights this matches, but it's 1893 or later.
Dave Hinz
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:52:23 +0100, njf>badger< <njf>badger<@soton.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>
> Dave Hinz wrote:
>>
>> It looks very like Mauser, rather than Krag. I've also never seen
>> one bent like that so I'd guess it has been bent after leaving the
>> factory. Front-hinged, so it has the "roller coaster" type
>> assembly on the top of the barrel that the elevation slider
>> adjusts on.
> 2000M more likely off a boer double rifle, shot one a few years back and
> the sight had that kind of range.
Well, it wasn't uncommon for Mauser (and Arisaka) rifles to have _very_
optimistic ranges calibrated on the rear sights. In WWII, the Japanese
even added "wings" to the side of this basic sight arrangement, so that
aircraft could be targeted (note I didn't say "effectively") by the
ground troops. That was seen as more of a psychological factor than an
actual tactical advantage; rather than saying "You can't do anything
about these aircraft strafing you", it was a "...and here's how to
use the aircraft sight on your rifle". Not effective there, not
effective at 2000 meters/yards, but the sights are calibrated for it.
Dave Hinz
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 21:57:02 GMT, R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Initial guess is 1893 or newer; the 1891 had the
>> hinge pin at the other end. I can take a look tonight to see which
>> of my Mausers' sights this matches, but it's 1893 or later.
>
> Thanks for the info, did you ever decide which one it is?
Didn't get a chance last night, will try to tonight.
Dave
On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:31:59 -0600, Bruce <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm sure now it's a Mauser sight, problem is there are _many_ variations of
> Mauser rifles 8^)
It's newer than 1896, but older than the 1901 design. I don't have anything
between those two for a direct comparison, though, and my Mauser book is
currently out on loan. But I think we're down to a 5 year span. And
it should not be bent.
> Is the sight a "V" shaped notch or a "U" shape?
> My Mauser book doesn't go into details on sights, but from my experience
> carbine sights usually are shorter range, maybe up to "1800" so It most
> probably is from a full rifle.
Agreed.
> Given that the shortest range is 300, it's
> probably a pre-WWII rifle since many countries adopted 100 as the short range
> position in the 30's
Agreed. Also the two buttons for adjustment imply earlier rather than
later. The rounded tabs are less work to make than the more square ones
as in the M96 Swedish mauser (and M93 Spanish), so I think it's newer than
that. By '01 the slider has been redesigned.
Dave Hinz
"Scott Lurndal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> [email protected] (Scott Lurndal) writes:
> >[email protected] (R.H.) writes:
> >>A few more photos have just been posted, I have no idea what number 140
is:
> >>
> >>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> >>
> >
> >#136 is a circle cutter for a hand brace. Pretty nice one, too. I
> > could definitely find something like this useful.
>
> In fact it looks like it can also be used to cut rings.
Correct, though according to the seller it's used to cut a particular type
of ring.
Rob
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 02:58:07 -0600, R.H. wrote
(in article <[email protected]>):
> A few more photos have just been posted, I have no idea what number 140 is:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
141, obviously a rear rifle sight, perhaps a Mauser version or Krag.
-Bruce
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 06:52:23 -0600, njf>badger wrote
(in article <[email protected]>):
>
>
> Dave Hinz wrote:
>>
>> It looks very like Mauser, rather than Krag. I've also never seen
>> one bent like that so I'd guess it has been bent after leaving the
>> factory. Front-hinged, so it has the "roller coaster" type
>> assembly on the top of the barrel that the elevation slider
>> adjusts on. Initial guess is 1893 or newer; the 1891 had the
>> hinge pin at the other end. I can take a look tonight to see which
>> of my Mausers' sights this matches, but it's 1893 or later.
>>
>> Dave Hinz
>>
> 2000M more likely off a boer double rifle, shot one a few years back and
> the sight had that kind of range.
>
> Niel.
virtually all military bolt rifles of that era had those large range
markings.
-Bruce
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:26:51 -0600, HannahR wrote
(in article <[email protected]>):
> Perhaps #140 is used to make barley twist carving ?
> .
>
> That gun sight, # 141 might it possibly be from a Mauser Broomhandle
> pistol?
>
>
Nope, pistol sights usually only go to a few hundred meters.
I'm sure now it's a Mauser sight, problem is there are _many_ variations of
Mauser rifles 8^)
Is the sight a "V" shaped notch or a "U" shape?
My Mauser book doesn't go into details on sights, but from my experience
carbine sights usually are shorter range, maybe up to "1800" so It most
probably is from a full rifle. Given that the shortest range is 300, it's
probably a pre-WWII rifle since many countries adopted 100 as the short range
position in the 30's
-Bruce
"Wood Butcher" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Gaskets?
I'm sure it could be used for gaskets but that wasn't how it was marked, the
answer it not far off from your response, very similar but for a different
purpose.
Rob
"njf>badger< badger" <"njf"@soton.ac.uk> wrote in message
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>
>
> Mark & Juanita wrote:
>
> > On 28 Sep 2004 01:58:07 -0700, [email protected] (R.H.) wrote:
> >
> >
> >>A few more photos have just been posted, I have no idea what number 140
is:
> >>
> >>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> >>
> >>
> >>Rob
> >
> >
> >
> > #140 looks like an optical holding fixture of some sort. Can't find
any
> > link readily to confirm or deny that.
>
> Very similar to some retailed by Coherent.
I couldn't find any confirmation of this on the web, any idea what if might
be called?
Rob
[email protected] (Scott Lurndal) writes:
>[email protected] (R.H.) writes:
>>A few more photos have just been posted, I have no idea what number 140 is:
>>
>>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>
>
>#136 is a circle cutter for a hand brace. Pretty nice one, too. I
> could definitely find something like this useful.
In fact it looks like it can also be used to cut rings.
scott
"Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 20:15:50 GMT, R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > "Bruce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> 141, obviously a rear rifle sight, perhaps a Mauser version or Krag.
> >
> > It is a gun sight, but I don't know what type.
>
> It looks very like Mauser, rather than Krag. I've also never seen
> one bent like that so I'd guess it has been bent after leaving the
> factory. Front-hinged, so it has the "roller coaster" type
> assembly on the top of the barrel that the elevation slider
> adjusts on. Initial guess is 1893 or newer; the 1891 had the
> hinge pin at the other end. I can take a look tonight to see which
> of my Mausers' sights this matches, but it's 1893 or later.
>
> Dave Hinz
>
Thanks for the info, did you ever decide which one it is?
Rob
"Wayne Cattanach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> A possible use of #139 would be to split Tonkin Bamboo in the making of
> bamboo fly rods - the tooling has always been unique and I have seen
> splitter in the 6 strip design very similar to the photo
Not sure about this, but I'll check it out.
Rob
> "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > A few more photos have just been posted, I have no idea what number 140
> is:
> >
> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
> > Rob
>
>
"HannahR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Perhaps #140 is used to make barley twist carving ?
Possibly, I'll have to look into this one.
> .
>
> That gun sight, # 141 might it possibly be from a Mauser Broomhandle
> pistol?
It's a gun sight, still not exactly sure for what weapon.
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> A few more photos have just been posted, I have no idea what number 140
is:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
I posted a few more answers, I don't think anyone solved number 127:
http://pzphotosan25.blogspot.com/
Here is a list of suggestions that I've gotten so far for number 140:
-hand vise
-electroplating tool
-device to hold lens or crystal
-bamboo splitter
-spark checker for small gas engine
-tester for bulbs
-thread cutter
-used to make barley twist carving
-experimental flash tube
-control lever
-adjusting tube for old carbon arc lights
Also, here is the answer for number 133, the tool with the pulley on it:
The pulley is a hand held device for tying corn bundles together to make a
shock.
Corn shocking was necessary to allow ears to dry out in an upright position
so they could more easily be separated from the plant.
Corn binders pulled either by horses or tractors were employed to cut
standing corn, laying bundles on the ground. The labor-intensive task
followed to form these bundles into corn shocks made from thirty to forty
bundles each. After gathering and stacking the next step was to place a tie
around the shock. A rope with single pulley was used to draw the shock in,
then another person girded and tied the corn shock with binder twine,
enabling removal of the rope and pulley for reuse. Then the bottom of each
bundle was fanned out so it would stand up firmly on the ground.
Rob
Dave Hinz wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:52:23 +0100, njf>badger< <njf>badger<@soton.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>>2000M more likely off a boer double rifle, shot one a few years back and
>>the sight had that kind of range.
>
>
> Well, it wasn't uncommon for Mauser (and Arisaka) rifles to have _very_
> optimistic ranges calibrated on the rear sights. In WWII, the Japanese
> even added "wings" to the side of this basic sight arrangement, so that
> aircraft could be targeted (note I didn't say "effectively") by the
> ground troops. That was seen as more of a psychological factor than an
> actual tactical advantage; rather than saying "You can't do anything
> about these aircraft strafing you", it was a "...and here's how to
> use the aircraft sight on your rifle". Not effective there, not
> effective at 2000 meters/yards, but the sights are calibrated for it.
>
> Dave Hinz
Well the boers were shooting at that range with their muzzle and breech
loading doubles, against a group them big bullets were quite effective!
"Bruce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 02:58:07 -0600, R.H. wrote
> (in article <[email protected]>):
>
> > A few more photos have just been posted, I have no idea what number 140
is:
> >
> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
> > Rob
>
> 141, obviously a rear rifle sight, perhaps a Mauser version or Krag.
>
> -Bruce
It is a gun sight, but I don't know what type.
Rob
"Bruce" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:26:51 -0600, HannahR wrote
> (in article <[email protected]>):
>
> > Perhaps #140 is used to make barley twist carving ?
> > .
> >
> > That gun sight, # 141 might it possibly be from a Mauser Broomhandle
> > pistol?
> >
> >
>
> Nope, pistol sights usually only go to a few hundred meters.
>
> I'm sure now it's a Mauser sight, problem is there are _many_ variations
of
> Mauser rifles 8^)
>
> Is the sight a "V" shaped notch or a "U" shape?
Thanks for the info, the sight is "V" shaped.
Rob
Mark & Juanita wrote:
> On 28 Sep 2004 01:58:07 -0700, [email protected] (R.H.) wrote:
>
>
>>A few more photos have just been posted, I have no idea what number 140 is:
>>
>>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>Rob
>
>
>
> #140 looks like an optical holding fixture of some sort. Can't find any
> link readily to confirm or deny that.
Very similar to some retailed by Coherent.
Dave Hinz wrote:
>
> It looks very like Mauser, rather than Krag. I've also never seen
> one bent like that so I'd guess it has been bent after leaving the
> factory. Front-hinged, so it has the "roller coaster" type
> assembly on the top of the barrel that the elevation slider
> adjusts on. Initial guess is 1893 or newer; the 1891 had the
> hinge pin at the other end. I can take a look tonight to see which
> of my Mausers' sights this matches, but it's 1893 or later.
>
> Dave Hinz
>
2000M more likely off a boer double rifle, shot one a few years back and
the sight had that kind of range.
Niel.
"Norm Dresner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > A few more photos have just been posted, I have no idea what number 140
> is:
> >
> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
>
> It looks like a "hand vise" for holding (probably round) objects which are
> clamped by the screws into the center of the ring. The two angle brackets
> are held against the workbench to steady the thing.
>
> Norm
Hand vise sounds like a good possibility but I might expect the screws to be
farther apart to hold something round. Others have suggested that the metal
strips are electrical contacts, but that's as far as they go with that
theory.
Gaskets?
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Scott Lurndal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > [email protected] (Scott Lurndal) writes:
> > >[email protected] (R.H.) writes:
> > >>A few more photos have just been posted, I have no idea what number 140
> is:
> > >>
> > >>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> > >>
> > >
> > >#136 is a circle cutter for a hand brace. Pretty nice one, too. I
> > > could definitely find something like this useful.
> >
> > In fact it looks like it can also be used to cut rings.
>
>
> Correct, though according to the seller it's used to cut a particular type
> of ring.
>
> Rob
>
>
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> A few more photos have just been posted, I have no idea what number 140
is:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
It looks like a "hand vise" for holding (probably round) objects which are
clamped by the screws into the center of the ring. The two angle brackets
are held against the workbench to steady the thing.
Norm
On 28 Sep 2004 01:58:07 -0700, [email protected] (R.H.) wrote:
>A few more photos have just been posted, I have no idea what number 140 is:
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
I've seen something kind of like that before, but it's been at least
12 years, so I'm not sure that it was the same as your picture. It
looks like an adjustible range finder from the sight on an old WWII
vintage Marlin 8mm rifle. Of course, it could be something completely
different- like I said, it's been quite some time since I saw one.
[email protected] (R.H.) writes:
>A few more photos have just been posted, I have no idea what number 140 is:
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
#136 is a circle cutter for a hand brace. Pretty nice one, too. I
could definitely find something like this useful.
#140 Maybe a Thread cutter (adjustable die?)???
scott