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"David F. Eisan"

10/03/2005 9:37 PM

New Toys, including rare Delta 10" RAS! (w/pics)

Evening all,

Well, not having time to work on the kitchen has not prevented me from
picking up a few new tools :).

I went to an auction a month or so ago and picked up real cheap this really
cool Delta 10" Radial Arm Saw that is a least 50 years old, but looks brand
new. It was made in Canada and even has a "Beaver" label on it. There is
some sort of funky dado blade on it, but it runs well, just needs a table.
Note that this is turret arm 10" RAS, I have never seen one of these before,
only the 12"-18" were turret arms as far as I used to know (turret
arm=pivots at end of arm). I don't really want or need a RAS, but this one
is such a cool little time capsule, I might just have to keep it.

http://www.federatedtool.com/david/img/ras1.jpg

http://www.federatedtool.com/david/img/ras2.jpg

I have always wanted a Oscillating Spindle Sander, but never really needed
one. If and when I ever finish my folks kitchen, my plan is to make myself a
nice dining room set and I thought this might come in use on the re-sawn
chair backs. Or, at least that is how I am justifying to myself anyways :).
USA made, 1/2 hp baldor motor, comes with dual link belts driving the
spindle. It is larger than the photos in the catalogue made it look. I have
an aluminium handled #7 (ever seen one of those before?) that I also picked
up at auction on the table top for scale.

http://www.federatedtool.com/david/img/whtasinthebox.jpg

http://www.federatedtool.com/david/img/clayton109.jpg

Since I have been doing so much sanding, in the interest in trying to breath
a little less dust, I also picked up a little Delta AP100 air cleaner. For
the few days I have been using it, I really like it.

http://www.federatedtool.com/david/img/aircleaner.jpg

So many tools, so little time...

David.



This topic has 21 replies

w

in reply to "David F. Eisan" on 10/03/2005 9:37 PM

15/03/2005 4:07 AM


David F. Eisan wrote:
> Evening all,
>
> Well, not having time to work on the kitchen has not prevented me
from
> picking up a few new tools :).
>
> I went to an auction a month or so ago and picked up real cheap this
really
> cool Delta 10" Radial Arm Saw that is a least 50 years old, but looks
brand
> new.


David,

If you want to buy a *real* radio alarm clock saw, I have one up on
Ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4365002731&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT


/shameless plug

Steve in St. Louis who *used* to have time for OWWM and making sawdust

w

in reply to "David F. Eisan" on 10/03/2005 9:37 PM

15/03/2005 6:29 PM


Unisaw A-100 wrote:
> >Steve in St. Louis who *used* to have time for OWWM and making
sawdust
>
>
> So whazup anyway? Family and life getting in the way of the
> more important things?
>
> UA100

Who would have thought that a second kid would be 10x harder than just
one? Or maybe it's the second job. Or maybe it's that I turned 40.

What's this "life" thing you speak of?

GO

"Greg O"

in reply to "David F. Eisan" on 10/03/2005 9:37 PM

10/03/2005 10:29 PM


"David F. Eisan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Evening all,
>
> Well, not having time to work on the kitchen has not prevented me from
> picking up a few new tools :).
>
> I went to an auction a month or so ago and picked up real cheap this
> really
> cool Delta 10" Radial Arm Saw that is a least 50 years old, but looks
> brand
> new. It was made in Canada and even has a "Beaver" label on it. There is
> some sort of funky dado blade on it, but it runs well, just needs a table.
> Note that this is turret arm 10" RAS, I have never seen one of these
> before,
> only the 12"-18" were turret arms as far as I used to know (turret
> arm=pivots at end of arm). I don't really want or need a RAS, but this one
> is such a cool little time capsule, I might just have to keep it.
>
>

My neighbor has a similar RAS, but I think his is older. Seems to me his is
a 9", but I may be mistaken.
I should drag my camera over there and post a pic.
Greg

GO

"Greg O"

in reply to "David F. Eisan" on 10/03/2005 9:37 PM

11/03/2005 5:17 PM


"David F. Eisan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello there,
>
>> My neighbor has a similar RAS, but I think his is older. Seems to me his
>> is a 9", but I may be mistaken.
>> I should drag my camera over there and post a pic.
>
> Please take a pic and post it, I would be interested in seeing it.
>
> David.
>
>

The pressure of the demands I must endure!!
( no problem! I'll try catch him this weekend!)
Greg

GO

"Greg O"

in reply to "David F. Eisan" on 10/03/2005 9:37 PM

12/03/2005 6:27 PM

David, pics are in ABPW of my neighbor's RAS.
Greg

FC

Frank Campbell

in reply to "David F. Eisan" on 10/03/2005 9:37 PM

13/03/2005 6:53 PM

In article <[email protected]>, David F. Eisan
<[email protected]> wrote:

> http://www.federatedtool.com/david/img/ras1.jpg

What I'm wondering is what kind of a fence do you use, as the arm is
swung for miter cuts the end of it would move forward, at 45 degrees
the saw would be in front of the fence.

JB

Jim Behning

in reply to "David F. Eisan" on 10/03/2005 9:37 PM

13/03/2005 10:24 PM

The fence is not all the way at the back with a turret saw. MIne
happens to be 5 inches from the back. The table also has a series of
strips of top. One 1" wide and 3 more 2" wide and then the big one
which is I guess 16x24. One of those three is in front of the fence.
You just move the strips around if you need to move the fence about.
You can come over and look at mine in the basement if you need to.

Frank Campbell <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, David F. Eisan
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> http://www.federatedtool.com/david/img/ras1.jpg
>
>What I'm wondering is what kind of a fence do you use, as the arm is
>swung for miter cuts the end of it would move forward, at 45 degrees
>the saw would be in front of the fence.

UC

Unquestionably Confused

in reply to "David F. Eisan" on 10/03/2005 9:37 PM

12/03/2005 2:25 PM

Stephen Young wrote:
> Unquestionably Confused wrote:
>
>> Stephen Young wrote:
>
>
>>> Look again at the arrow - blade is on backwards...
>>
>>
>>
>> I did, David. When I went back I looked hard at that arrow. Then I
>> looked at the saw guard and realized that it very similar to the one
>> on my 70's vintage Craftsman RAS. Then I realized that if that blade
>> is correctly mounted, the only way you could cut would be to pull the
>> carriage all the way towards the operator, slide the wood to be cut
>> behind it, and then push the blade into the stock and pray you weren't
>> doing a dado so it could whip that sucker back through your gut.
>>
>> That's when I decided I had seen it correctly the first time<g>
>>
>> It's still a very nice example of the saw.
>>
>
> I'm not David. I can't understand your logic - that blade is on
> backwards. Have you used a RAS before?

I have used a RAS before. Go back and read the thread. I'm the one who
first commented on the blade being backwards. I was responding to
David's post. I should have taken your line of:


> Look again at the arrow - blade is on backwards...

out before I did so. Might have been less confusing. OTOH if you read
my post you should have realized that I was still saying the blade was
on backwards.


UC

Unquestionably Confused

in reply to "David F. Eisan" on 10/03/2005 9:37 PM

12/03/2005 5:24 PM

Stephen Young wrote:
> Unquestionably Confused wrote:
>
>>> I'm not David. I can't understand your logic - that blade is on
>>> backwards. Have you used a RAS before?
>>
>>
>>
>> I have used a RAS before. Go back and read the thread. I'm the one
>> who first commented on the blade being backwards. I was responding
>> to David's post. I should have taken your line of:
>>
>>
>> > Look again at the arrow - blade is on backwards...
>>
>> out before I did so. Might have been less confusing. OTOH if you
>> read my post you should have realized that I was still saying the
>> blade was on backwards.
>>
>
> We both need better eyes...


Agreed, and that damn dado blade is still on backwards<g>

SY

Stephen Young

in reply to "David F. Eisan" on 10/03/2005 9:37 PM

11/03/2005 8:34 PM

David F. Eisan wrote:
> Hello there,
>
>
>>That "funky" dado appears to be mounted bass ackwards unless, of course,
>>you were cutting some PVC piping with it<g>
>
>
> Ackshully, it is facing the correct direction, see the arrow on the blade
> cover? :).
>

Look again at the arrow - blade is on backwards...

DF

"David F. Eisan"

in reply to "David F. Eisan" on 10/03/2005 9:37 PM

11/03/2005 7:40 AM

Hello there,

> That "funky" dado appears to be mounted bass ackwards unless, of course,
> you were cutting some PVC piping with it<g>

Ackshully, it is facing the correct direction, see the arrow on the blade
cover? :).

> It does look like it came out of a capsule though. I recognize the style
> of the legs on the stand. Match those on my 60 year old Delta Rockwell
> bandsaw.

I think I will make a table for it and use it for a while.

David.

UA

Unisaw A-100

in reply to "David F. Eisan" on 10/03/2005 9:37 PM

15/03/2005 4:21 PM

>Steve in St. Louis who *used* to have time for OWWM and making sawdust


So whazup anyway? Family and life getting in the way of the
more important things?

UA100

SY

Stephen Young

in reply to "David F. Eisan" on 10/03/2005 9:37 PM

12/03/2005 12:17 PM

Unquestionably Confused wrote:

>> I'm not David. I can't understand your logic - that blade is on
>> backwards. Have you used a RAS before?
>
>
> I have used a RAS before. Go back and read the thread. I'm the one who
> first commented on the blade being backwards. I was responding to
> David's post. I should have taken your line of:
>
>
> > Look again at the arrow - blade is on backwards...
>
> out before I did so. Might have been less confusing. OTOH if you read
> my post you should have realized that I was still saying the blade was
> on backwards.
>

We both need better eyes...

DF

"David F. Eisan"

in reply to "David F. Eisan" on 10/03/2005 9:37 PM

11/03/2005 7:41 AM

Hello there,

> My neighbor has a similar RAS, but I think his is older. Seems to me his
> is a 9", but I may be mistaken.
> I should drag my camera over there and post a pic.

Please take a pic and post it, I would be interested in seeing it.

David.

SY

Stephen Young

in reply to "David F. Eisan" on 10/03/2005 9:37 PM

12/03/2005 9:15 AM

Unquestionably Confused wrote:
> Stephen Young wrote:

>> Look again at the arrow - blade is on backwards...
>
>
> I did, David. When I went back I looked hard at that arrow. Then I
> looked at the saw guard and realized that it very similar to the one on
> my 70's vintage Craftsman RAS. Then I realized that if that blade is
> correctly mounted, the only way you could cut would be to pull the
> carriage all the way towards the operator, slide the wood to be cut
> behind it, and then push the blade into the stock and pray you weren't
> doing a dado so it could whip that sucker back through your gut.
>
> That's when I decided I had seen it correctly the first time<g>
>
> It's still a very nice example of the saw.
>

I'm not David. I can't understand your logic - that blade is on backwards. Have you used a RAS
before?

FC

Fly-by-Night CC

in reply to "David F. Eisan" on 10/03/2005 9:37 PM

11/03/2005 2:36 AM

> So many tools, so little time...

That's a fine howdydo. Haven't seen you 'round in a while... an when you
do return you gotta go and insult us all.

Now I was all about to jump up'n'down, asquealin' like a school girl
when I saw those first few pics - then I lay my eyeballs on that Clayton
109 pic. Now I'm just sittin' here, not jumpin' up'n'down or asquealin'
- just confused. You finally use yer shirt tail? You got two cameras now
Davey? Them signachur dust specks don't appear in any but the 109 pic. -
'supwifat?

--
Owen Lowe
The Fly-by-Night Copper Company
____

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
Corporate States of America and to the
Republicans for which it stands, one nation,
under debt, easily divisible, with liberty
and justice for oil."
- Wiley Miller, Non Sequitur, 1/24/05

MS

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN"

in reply to "David F. Eisan" on 10/03/2005 9:37 PM

11/03/2005 3:00 PM

David F. Eisan wrote:
> Well, it really isn't that I dunno how to clean off the camera lense, it is
> that if there is *any* dust in the air when I shoot a pic, it shows up as a
> snowflake.



I used to have the same problem with underwater photography. The solution is to
separate the light source from the lense. What is happening is that your flash
is sending light out which is then flashed right back in the direction from
which it came... and back into your lense. Offsetting your flash and
illuminating at other than 90° angles to the subject should tame that snowstorm.




--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

[email protected]

UC

Unquestionably Confused

in reply to "David F. Eisan" on 10/03/2005 9:37 PM

12/03/2005 4:57 AM

Stephen Young wrote:
> David F. Eisan wrote:
>
>> Hello there,
>>
>>
>>> That "funky" dado appears to be mounted bass ackwards unless, of
>>> course, you were cutting some PVC piping with it<g>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ackshully, it is facing the correct direction, see the arrow on the
>> blade cover? :).
>>
>
> Look again at the arrow - blade is on backwards...

I did, David. When I went back I looked hard at that arrow. Then I
looked at the saw guard and realized that it very similar to the one on
my 70's vintage Craftsman RAS. Then I realized that if that blade is
correctly mounted, the only way you could cut would be to pull the
carriage all the way towards the operator, slide the wood to be cut
behind it, and then push the blade into the stock and pray you weren't
doing a dado so it could whip that sucker back through your gut.

That's when I decided I had seen it correctly the first time<g>

It's still a very nice example of the saw.

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "David F. Eisan" on 10/03/2005 9:37 PM

11/03/2005 6:38 AM

On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:45:47 -0800, the inscrutable "David F. Eisan"
<[email protected]> spake:

>Dear Mr. Shims,
>
>> Now I was all about to jump up'n'down, asquealin' like a school girl
>> when I saw those first few pics - then I lay my eyeballs on that Clayton
>> 109 pic. Now I'm just sittin' here, not jumpin' up'n'down or asquealin'
>> - just confused. You finally use yer shirt tail? You got two cameras now
>> Davey? Them signachur dust specks don't appear in any but the 109 pic. -
>> 'supwifat?
>
>Well, it really isn't that I dunno how to clean off the camera lense, it is
>that if there is *any* dust in the air when I shoot a pic, it shows up as a
>snowflake.

You obviously don't have a LensPen, Davey. From $6.95USD at photo
stores. GET ONE! They're really handy. A retractable soft brush is on
one end and a chemically coated chamois is on the other. Fingerprints
and dust are history around one. (std disclaimer applies, happy user)

--
Life's a Frisbee: When you die, your soul goes up on the roof.
----
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UC

Unquestionably Confused

in reply to "David F. Eisan" on 10/03/2005 9:37 PM

11/03/2005 3:39 AM

David F. Eisan wrote:
> Evening all,
>
> Well, not having time to work on the kitchen has not prevented me from
> picking up a few new tools :).
>
> I went to an auction a month or so ago and picked up real cheap this really
> cool Delta 10" Radial Arm Saw that is a least 50 years old, but looks brand
> new. It was made in Canada and even has a "Beaver" label on it. There is
> some sort of funky dado blade on it, but it runs well, just needs a table.
> Note that this is turret arm 10" RAS, I have never seen one of these before,
> only the 12"-18" were turret arms as far as I used to know (turret
> arm=pivots at end of arm). I don't really want or need a RAS, but this one
> is such a cool little time capsule, I might just have to keep it.
>
> http://www.federatedtool.com/david/img/ras1.jpg
>
> http://www.federatedtool.com/david/img/ras2.jpg

That "funky" dado appears to be mounted bass ackwards unless, of course,
you were cutting some PVC piping with it<g>

It does look like it came out of a capsule though. I recognize the
style of the legs on the stand. Match those on my 60 year old Delta
Rockwell bandsaw.

Enjoy!

DF

"David F. Eisan"

in reply to "David F. Eisan" on 10/03/2005 9:37 PM

11/03/2005 7:45 AM

Dear Mr. Shims,

> Now I was all about to jump up'n'down, asquealin' like a school girl
> when I saw those first few pics - then I lay my eyeballs on that Clayton
> 109 pic. Now I'm just sittin' here, not jumpin' up'n'down or asquealin'
> - just confused. You finally use yer shirt tail? You got two cameras now
> Davey? Them signachur dust specks don't appear in any but the 109 pic. -
> 'supwifat?

Well, it really isn't that I dunno how to clean off the camera lense, it is
that if there is *any* dust in the air when I shoot a pic, it shows up as a
snowflake.

Kitchen - No dust.
RAS - Drove home in the back of my truck, no dust.
Clayton 109 - Made buncha dust with it just before I took the shot.
Air cleaner, - Duh, sucked up the dust.

I hope with the new Delta AP100, my foto's will look less like a Canukastani
snow storm and more like foto's. :).

David.


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