"Guess who" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 06:20:33 GMT, "Leon"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>I have corrected this problem on some exterior doors by simply wiping a
>>dry
>>lubricant or wax on the door edge in particular in the area where the door
>>sticks. Try that before cutting the door.
>>
>
> A good temporary solution, but cures the symptoms, not the disease.
Well, I put a dab of silicone on my fathers front door that had been
gradually hanging worse and worse for about 4 or 5 years, year round, and
that was 10 years ago and it is still opening and closing fine. This is a
now 32 year old house.
I think the method described I should be the first course of action followed
by actually resquaring the door jamb which is more work but the correct
repair. Whittling down the door is also really a cure of the symptom. I
did actually have to resquare one of the other exterior door jambs in his
house. While I have replaced several door and door jambs I some shot a nail
at an angle and nailed the door permanently shut while putting the inside
molding back on. My dad got a big kick out of that. :~)
Josh wrote:
> A planer, but you'd probably be better off to just buy a cheap hand
> plane. There's no need to spend a bunch of money on an electric
> hand-held planer when you can do the job in 30 seconds with a neander
> one.
>
> Josh
Hi, a cheap electric planer is not much more expensive than a manual
one. That's the one I'm planning to get.
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Guess who wrote:
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A little
> hand sanding when done, then paint, and
***you won't see the flaws if you don't look.***
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I had the same problem with 5 doors in our 2 yr old house. I planed the
doors with a power planer because there was too much to plan by hand.
My suggestion is to scribe a line down the door before you plane. This
way you will get an even gap between the door and the frame. If you
power plan it, scrape the paint off the edge first. The paint will
cause a knick in you blade.
Good luck.
Bigpole wrote:
> Where are you located that doors expand in the winter?
>
A northern part of Europe.
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >
> > I have a few doors that seem to have expanded this winter and won't
> > close properly, or open easily, they just get stuck, it's a struggle.
> > What electric tool do I need to shave a bit of wood off them? is it an
> > electric grinder, sander, or planer?
> >
> > Many thanks and regards.
> >
no(SPAM)vasys wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > I have a few doors that seem to have expanded this winter and won't
> > close properly, or open easily, they just get stuck, it's a struggle.
> > What electric tool do I need to shave a bit of wood off them? is it an
> > electric grinder, sander, or planer?
> >
> > Many thanks and regards.
> >
>
> Doors usually expand with high humidity (summer) and shrink with low
> humidity (winter). The first thing I check is the hinge screws to make
> sure they haven't loosened.
>
I have a completely opposite experience. They expand in the winter and
become a struggle to open and close, and in the summer they're just
fine. Perhaps your winters are not as wet and frosty as they are here.
> --
> Jack Novak
> Buffalo, NY - USA
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<[email protected]> wrote:
> What electric tool do I need to shave a bit of wood off them? is it an
> electric grinder, sander, or planer?
You don't need any electric tool. A block plane or sureform rasp will
work just fine.
--
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[email protected] wrote:
> I have a few doors that seem to have expanded this winter and won't
> close properly, or open easily, they just get stuck, it's a struggle.
> What electric tool do I need to shave a bit of wood off them? is it an
> electric grinder, sander, or planer?
>
> Many thanks and regards.
>
Doors usually expand with high humidity (summer) and shrink with low
humidity (winter). The first thing I check is the hinge screws to make
sure they haven't loosened.
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
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> > Jack Novak
> > Buffalo, NY - USA
wrote:
[email protected] wrote:
> I have a completely opposite experience. They expand in the winter and
> become a struggle to open and close, and in the summer they're just
> fine. Perhaps your winters are not as wet and frosty as they are here.
Prolly not, Buffaflo is know for its mild dry winters.
On 27 Feb 2006 20:39:49 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>
>I have a few doors that seem to have expanded this winter and won't
>close properly, or open easily, they just get stuck, it's a struggle.
>What electric tool do I need to shave a bit of wood off them? is it an
>electric grinder, sander, or planer?
Anything that will cut wood, then apply common sense.
That said, my father-in-law had a small [very small ...perhaps 2"?]
hand held electric plane. Since I never asked for anything when he
passed on, I didn't get it. No regrets; memory of him was the item of
the day. However, I wish I'd kept note of it. I think it was Porter
Cable. That would be perfect for such jobs. I haven't seen one
since.
If concerned about shaky hands and lack of technique, you can build a
frame support you can clamp to marked lines [on tape] on the sides
ofthe door. Then use that as a guide for a router. Think of two
short 4" boards with the router support frame built to them in the
middle to straddle the door. You clamp the boards to the door lines
away out from the router frame, and move along to finish. A little
hand sanding when done, then paint, and you won't see the flaws if you
don't look.
A planer should give a better looking result.
Don Dando
<[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> I have a few doors that seem to have expanded this winter and won't
> close properly, or open easily, they just get stuck, it's a struggle.
> What electric tool do I need to shave a bit of wood off them? is it an
> electric grinder, sander, or planer?
>
> Many thanks and regards.
>
"Guess who" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 15:09:48 GMT, "Leon"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> While I have replaced several door and door jambs I some shot a nail
>>at an angle and nailed the door permanently shut while putting the inside
>>molding back on. My dad got a big kick out of that. :~)
>>
>
> Mine was stapling a couple of pieces while holding them together with
> the other hand.
And there is always some one watching when you do something like that,
right? LOL
[email protected] wrote:
> I have a few doors that seem to have expanded this winter and won't
> close properly, or open easily, they just get stuck, it's a struggle.
> What electric tool do I need to shave a bit of wood off them? is it an
> electric grinder, sander, or planer?
>
> Many thanks and regards.
>
You don't need an electric tool. Use a bullnose
plane, which will allow you to plane all the way
to the bottom of the door. Don't dismount the
door, just note where it hits the frame and plane
those parts, plane a little, swing the door to
test, and plane a bit more if it still contacts.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> I have a few doors that seem to have expanded this winter and won't
> close properly, or open easily, they just get stuck, it's a struggle.
> What electric tool do I need to shave a bit of wood off them? is it an
> electric grinder, sander, or planer?
>
> Many thanks and regards.
>
I have corrected this problem on some exterior doors by simply wiping a dry
lubricant or wax on the door edge in particular in the area where the door
sticks. Try that before cutting the door.
[email protected] wrote in news:1141101589.148551.96390
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>
> I have a few doors that seem to have expanded this winter and won't
> close properly, or open easily, they just get stuck, it's a struggle.
> What electric tool do I need to shave a bit of wood off them? is it an
> electric grinder, sander, or planer?
>
> Many thanks and regards.
>
You don't say where the door is binding, and that has a bearing on what the
solution is. You may want to inspect the hinges, both jamb and door to
ensure that something didn't come loose. Then assuming that is in order,
If it is the bottom of the door that is dragging, look at the top margin of
the door/jamb. If it is consistent acroos the top, then you will probably
have to trim the bottom. If it is not consistent, then loosen up one leaf
of the bottom hinge and place two pieces of paper board ( cereal box kinda
stuff)behind the hinge. This will have the effect of moving the bottom of
the door over toward the latch jamb and the top of the door up.
If it is the top of the door that is binding, a belt sander will take off a
little at a time and prevent the big OMG of a planer when it is going
across end grain.
If it is the latch side of the door, the belt sander will work just as
well. Before I would foul up the finish though, I would try to reset the
nails and maybe put in a few more in the right location to try to suck the
jamb back in place. It is easier to putty a few hols than to re-finish the
door.
Good luck an let us know how it turns out
My tool of choice is a wood rasp followed by a little sandpaper. Just touch
the high spots.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> I have a few doors that seem to have expanded this winter and won't
> close properly, or open easily, they just get stuck, it's a struggle.
> What electric tool do I need to shave a bit of wood off them? is it an
> electric grinder, sander, or planer?
>
> Many thanks and regards.
>
>
The proper tool is a screwdriver.
Before you chop anything off, shim the hinges and make sure the
door isn't simply rubbing on the frame due to settling. Once you
cut off part of a door that previously fit properly there is no
going back.
[email protected] wrote:
> I have a few doors that seem to have expanded this winter and won't
> close properly, or open easily, they just get stuck, it's a struggle.
> What electric tool do I need to shave a bit of wood off them? is it an
> electric grinder, sander, or planer?
>
> Many thanks and regards.
>
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 06:20:33 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I have corrected this problem on some exterior doors by simply wiping a dry
>lubricant or wax on the door edge in particular in the area where the door
>sticks. Try that before cutting the door.
>
A good temporary solution, but cures the symptoms, not the disease.
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 15:09:48 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Well, I put a dab of silicone on my fathers front door that had been
>gradually hanging worse and worse for about 4 or 5 years, year round, and
>that was 10 years ago and it is still opening and closing fine. This is a
>now 32 year old house.
Sometimes the magic works, and sometimes it doesn't. [Chief Dan
George.]
Also, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. My house is much older than
that, and still moving around some. In fact, I just recently redid
the bathroom and had to plane the door slightly so that the newly
applied paint wouldn't be rubbed off. No silicon of use there.
> While I have replaced several door and door jambs I some shot a nail
>at an angle and nailed the door permanently shut while putting the inside
>molding back on. My dad got a big kick out of that. :~)
>
Mine was stapling a couple of pieces while holding them together with
the other hand.
Well, from one craftsman to another, I agree with most of what he said
however with one caveat! Never Never Never mess with the latch side of
the door. There are 2 back sets that locks come with ( 2 3/8's and 2
3/4's). The first of which is a residential backset and the second is the
standard commercial backset. DON'T CHANGE THE BACKSET!!!!!! You can
change the hinge set all day long without changing the setup on the door,
but if you alter the backset of the lockset, then your destined for trouble.
Trust me on this, I see it everyday. Not only am I a "newbie" to
woodworking, but I'm also a Certified Master Locksmith. Thats right, I
deal with doors everyday all day. Please don't do this, it will only
cause problems that you don't want. BTW, I'm relatively new to this group
and humbly introuduce myself therefore.
Jack
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> [email protected] wrote in news:1141101589.148551.96390
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>
>>
>> I have a few doors that seem to have expanded this winter and won't
>> close properly, or open easily, they just get stuck, it's a struggle.
>> What electric tool do I need to shave a bit of wood off them? is it an
>> electric grinder, sander, or planer?
>>
>> Many thanks and regards.
>>
>
> You don't say where the door is binding, and that has a bearing on what
> the
> solution is. You may want to inspect the hinges, both jamb and door to
> ensure that something didn't come loose. Then assuming that is in order,
>
> If it is the bottom of the door that is dragging, look at the top margin
> of
> the door/jamb. If it is consistent acroos the top, then you will probably
> have to trim the bottom. If it is not consistent, then loosen up one leaf
> of the bottom hinge and place two pieces of paper board ( cereal box kinda
> stuff)behind the hinge. This will have the effect of moving the bottom of
> the door over toward the latch jamb and the top of the door up.
>
> If it is the top of the door that is binding, a belt sander will take off
> a
> little at a time and prevent the big OMG of a planer when it is going
> across end grain.
>
> If it is the latch side of the door, the belt sander will work just as
> well. Before I would foul up the finish though, I would try to reset the
> nails and maybe put in a few more in the right location to try to suck the
> jamb back in place. It is easier to putty a few hols than to re-finish the
> door.
>
> Good luck an let us know how it turns out
Where are you located that doors expand in the winter?
<[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> I have a few doors that seem to have expanded this winter and won't
> close properly, or open easily, they just get stuck, it's a struggle.
> What electric tool do I need to shave a bit of wood off them? is it an
> electric grinder, sander, or planer?
>
> Many thanks and regards.
>