LC

"Larry C"

06/03/2008 7:47 PM

OT but sort of woodworking related - I need to ship something I built

Hello,

I built two cricket tables for a friend as a wedding gift. My plan was to
ship them from NE Mass to Southern Cal. The boxes are about a 30" cube.

Well it seems I should have listened to my wife and bought a place setting.
It is very expensive $180 a box to ship them with UPS or FedEx. The box
size is to big for the post office.

Anyone have any ideas.

Larry C


This topic has 18 replies

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Puckdropper

in reply to "Larry C" on 06/03/2008 7:47 PM

06/03/2008 8:33 PM

"Larry C" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:7TXzj.11284$C1.5269@trnddc07:

> Hello,
>
> I built two cricket tables for a friend as a wedding gift. My plan
> was to ship them from NE Mass to Southern Cal. The boxes are about a
> 30" cube.
>
> Well it seems I should have listened to my wife and bought a place
> setting. It is very expensive $180 a box to ship them with UPS or
> FedEx. The box size is to big for the post office.
>
> Anyone have any ideas.
>
> Larry C
>

Know of any business that do shipping in that direction regularly? They
may be willing to let you "piggyback" your cargo with their own.

Puckdropper
--
Marching to the beat of a different drum is great... unless you're in
marching band.

To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "Larry C" on 06/03/2008 7:47 PM

06/03/2008 10:21 PM


"Larry C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:7TXzj.11284$C1.5269@trnddc07...
> Hello,
>
> I built two cricket tables for a friend as a wedding gift. My plan was to
> ship them from NE Mass to Southern Cal. The boxes are about a 30" cube.
>
> Well it seems I should have listened to my wife and bought a place
> setting. It is very expensive $180 a box to ship them with UPS or FedEx.
> The box size is to big for the post office.
>
> Anyone have any ideas.
>
> Larry C

Greyhound Bus. On their web site click on the package express and enter the
information. You can get them there for about $45 per package from what I
just did from Boston to San Diego. You must drop off and recipient must
pick up. Takes about 4 days. .
http://www.greyhound.com/home/?crcat=payperclick&crsource=google_ads&crkw=greyhound_bus

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "Larry C" on 06/03/2008 7:47 PM

06/03/2008 12:17 PM

"Larry C" wrote:

> It is very expensive $180 a box to ship them with UPS or FedEx. The
box
> size is to big for the post office.

Check trucking company LTL rates for your area.

Since most trucking companies give significant discounts to customers,
you will get a lower cost if you have a connection to a local company
who would ship it for you using their pricing and you pay them
including a case of "suds".

Lew

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "Larry C" on 06/03/2008 7:47 PM

06/03/2008 4:30 PM


"Larry C" wrote:

> LTL ?? Less than load


Yep.

Lew

Ll

Leuf

in reply to "Larry C" on 06/03/2008 7:47 PM

06/03/2008 6:26 PM

On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 19:47:15 GMT, "Larry C" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Hello,
>
>I built two cricket tables for a friend as a wedding gift. My plan was to
>ship them from NE Mass to Southern Cal. The boxes are about a 30" cube.
>
>Well it seems I should have listened to my wife and bought a place setting.
>It is very expensive $180 a box to ship them with UPS or FedEx. The box
>size is to big for the post office.
>
>Anyone have any ideas.

Give them two tickets to come visit your new furniture? :)

I suppose it's too late at this point to design them so the legs come
off considering they're already built, eh? It's the dimensional
weight that is killing you.


-Leuf

Vv

Vidkid26

in reply to "Larry C" on 06/03/2008 7:47 PM

08/03/2008 6:01 AM

On 2008-03-06 13:51:38 -0800, "Charley" <[email protected]> said:

> Make a crate for your tables with either a pallet or similar design as the
> base. Make the sides and top strong enough to support something heavy that
> could possibly get piled on top (1/2 CDX plywood is my choice with 2x2
> corner pieces inside held together with drywall screws). Then take the
> package to the nearest major freight trucking company and ask them for a
> quote. Once they see it and weigh it you will get a very reasonable quote.
> Just be sure to package them inside the crate very well as they are likely
> to get a very rough ride. If you aren't in a hurry (like expecting
> overnight, etc.) they will ship it in the next truck with enough space
> that's headed that way and it'll get there in a few days. If you have them
> contact the receiving party when it reaches the nearby terminal and if the
> receiving party can pick it up from that terminal the delivery quote will be
> even lower. They like solid packages with fork truck handling capability.
> Also, get the agent to go down the list of rates so you can pick the
> cheapest one that sort of matches what you are shipping. Certain items ship
> for much less than other similar items ie. assembled machinery costs more to
> ship than assorted quantities of parts like what the machine is made of. The
> agent can get away with using either rate. In your case pre-cut wooden
> furniture parts might ship cheaper than assembled and finished furniture.
> Who is to say whether your shipment is a finished product or not?
>
> Charley
>
>
> "Larry C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:7TXzj.11284$C1.5269@trnddc07...
>> Hello,
>>
>> I built two cricket tables for a friend as a wedding gift. My plan was to
>> ship them from NE Mass to Southern Cal. The boxes are about a 30" cube.
>>
>> Well it seems I should have listened to my wife and bought a place
> setting.
>> It is very expensive $180 a box to ship them with UPS or FedEx. The box
>> size is to big for the post office.
>>
>> Anyone have any ideas.
>>
>> Larry C

Throw a couple of rolls of toilet paper in the crate and ship it as a
mixed comodity. Furniture rates are about the highest because of claims.
VK

Cc

"Charley"

in reply to "Larry C" on 06/03/2008 7:47 PM

06/03/2008 4:51 PM

Make a crate for your tables with either a pallet or similar design as the
base. Make the sides and top strong enough to support something heavy that
could possibly get piled on top (1/2 CDX plywood is my choice with 2x2
corner pieces inside held together with drywall screws). Then take the
package to the nearest major freight trucking company and ask them for a
quote. Once they see it and weigh it you will get a very reasonable quote.
Just be sure to package them inside the crate very well as they are likely
to get a very rough ride. If you aren't in a hurry (like expecting
overnight, etc.) they will ship it in the next truck with enough space
that's headed that way and it'll get there in a few days. If you have them
contact the receiving party when it reaches the nearby terminal and if the
receiving party can pick it up from that terminal the delivery quote will be
even lower. They like solid packages with fork truck handling capability.
Also, get the agent to go down the list of rates so you can pick the
cheapest one that sort of matches what you are shipping. Certain items ship
for much less than other similar items ie. assembled machinery costs more to
ship than assorted quantities of parts like what the machine is made of. The
agent can get away with using either rate. In your case pre-cut wooden
furniture parts might ship cheaper than assembled and finished furniture.
Who is to say whether your shipment is a finished product or not?

Charley


"Larry C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:7TXzj.11284$C1.5269@trnddc07...
> Hello,
>
> I built two cricket tables for a friend as a wedding gift. My plan was to
> ship them from NE Mass to Southern Cal. The boxes are about a 30" cube.
>
> Well it seems I should have listened to my wife and bought a place
setting.
> It is very expensive $180 a box to ship them with UPS or FedEx. The box
> size is to big for the post office.
>
> Anyone have any ideas.
>
> Larry C
>

Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to "Larry C" on 06/03/2008 7:47 PM

06/03/2008 10:37 PM

Not sure I understand "Billable weight" I tried it from zip 9xxxx to
zip 2xxxx (basically across the country) and 30x30x30 at 140 lbs was
$111 but at 50 lbs was only $50 Fedex ground in 5 days.


On Mar 6, 7:28=A0pm, Leuf <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:10:56 -0800 (PST), "SonomaProducts.com"
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Have you looked at Fedex ground? I don't think it will be anywhere
> >near that expensive unless they are dead heavy.
>
> 30x30x30 =3D Dimensional Weight of 140 lbs. =A0It doesn't matter how much
> it actually weighs, that's the billable weight.
>
> Shipping from a commercial address with daily rates to a commercial
> address (the guy's work rather than home) will be significantly less,
> but still probably at least $125 per box.
>
> Package it to withstand a nuclear blast. =A0That's about what is going
> to happen to it.
>
> -Leuf

Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to "Larry C" on 06/03/2008 7:47 PM

06/03/2008 5:10 PM

Have you looked at Fedex ground? I don't think it will be anywhere
near that expensive unless they are dead heavy.

=46rom experience, package to avoid punctures, corner bumps and smashes.
With smahses I mean, if you have spindly legs, then add some cross
bracing to keep them from being pushed in. I usually have at least 1
inch of styrofoam or the like surrounding all sides insode the box and
actually sacrifice some 1/8" ply all around the sides to stop
punctures. I usually have some scratch sheets that come on top of
sheets of ply from the lumber house.

On Mar 6, 11:47=A0am, "Larry C" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I built two cricket tables for a friend as a wedding gift. =A0My plan was =
to
> ship them from NE Mass to Southern Cal. =A0The boxes are about a 30" cube.=

>
> Well it seems I should have listened to my wife and bought a place setting=
.
> It is very expensive $180 a box to ship them with UPS or FedEx. =A0The box=

> size is to big for the post office.
>
> Anyone have any ideas.
>
> Larry C

LC

"Larry C"

in reply to "Larry C" on 06/03/2008 7:47 PM

07/03/2008 10:51 PM


"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Larry C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:7TXzj.11284$C1.5269@trnddc07...
>> Hello,
>>
>> I built two cricket tables for a friend as a wedding gift. My plan was
>> to ship them from NE Mass to Southern Cal. The boxes are about a 30"
>> cube.
>>
>> Well it seems I should have listened to my wife and bought a place
>> setting. It is very expensive $180 a box to ship them with UPS or FedEx.
>> The box size is to big for the post office.
>>
>> Anyone have any ideas.
>>
>> Larry C
>
> Greyhound Bus. On their web site click on the package express and enter
> the information. You can get them there for about $45 per package from
> what I just did from Boston to San Diego. You must drop off and recipient
> must pick up. Takes about 4 days. .
> http://www.greyhound.com/home/?crcat=payperclick&crsource=google_ads&crkw=greyhound_bus
>

Thanks for all of the advice and suggestions. I went on freightquote.com as
suggested by Charle and DHL will get them there for $90 a piece. It will
take about 6 days.

The Greyhound bus option is certainly cheaper but it just makes me a little
nervous.

As an FYI the size of the package was the cost driver, not the weight.

Thanks again

Larry C

Ll

Leuf

in reply to "Larry C" on 06/03/2008 7:47 PM

06/03/2008 10:28 PM

On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:10:56 -0800 (PST), "SonomaProducts.com"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Have you looked at Fedex ground? I don't think it will be anywhere
>near that expensive unless they are dead heavy.

30x30x30 = Dimensional Weight of 140 lbs. It doesn't matter how much
it actually weighs, that's the billable weight.

Shipping from a commercial address with daily rates to a commercial
address (the guy's work rather than home) will be significantly less,
but still probably at least $125 per box.

Package it to withstand a nuclear blast. That's about what is going
to happen to it.


-Leuf

LC

"Larry C"

in reply to "Larry C" on 06/03/2008 7:47 PM

06/03/2008 8:39 PM


"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Larry C" wrote:
>
>> It is very expensive $180 a box to ship them with UPS or FedEx. The
> box
>> size is to big for the post office.
>
> Check trucking company LTL rates for your area.
>
> Since most trucking companies give significant discounts to customers,
> you will get a lower cost if you have a connection to a local company
> who would ship it for you using their pricing and you pay them
> including a case of "suds".
>
> Lew
>
>

Lew,

LTL ?? Less than load
Location to Location

Thanks for the help

cc

"charlie"

in reply to "Larry C" on 06/03/2008 7:47 PM

06/03/2008 1:27 PM


"Larry C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:7TXzj.11284$C1.5269@trnddc07...
> Hello,
>
> I built two cricket tables for a friend as a wedding gift. My plan was to
> ship them from NE Mass to Southern Cal. The boxes are about a 30" cube.
>
> Well it seems I should have listened to my wife and bought a place
> setting. It is very expensive $180 a box to ship them with UPS or FedEx.
> The box size is to big for the post office.
>
> Anyone have any ideas.
>
> Larry C

did you try freight quote?

https://www.freightquote.com/Public/Home/FQ/Home.aspx

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Larry C" on 06/03/2008 7:47 PM

06/03/2008 3:45 PM


"Larry C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:7TXzj.11284$C1.5269@trnddc07...
> Hello,
>
> I built two cricket tables for a friend as a wedding gift. My plan was to
> ship them from NE Mass to Southern Cal. The boxes are about a 30" cube.
>
> Well it seems I should have listened to my wife and bought a place
> setting. It is very expensive $180 a box to ship them with UPS or FedEx.
> The box size is to big for the post office.
>
> Anyone have any ideas.
>
> Larry C

BUS

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spaco

in reply to "Larry C" on 06/03/2008 7:47 PM

06/03/2008 6:09 PM

LTL stands for "Less Than truck Load".

I went through hell last spring shipping a mechanical shaper to Texas.
Among many, many other things that went bad, the company that the
buyer selected took well over 2 months to be in a position to pick it up.
If you price shop this thing, you might well get what you pay for.
My son ships things up to about 1000 pounds on a regular basis and uses
Yellow Frieght. Works for him.

Pete Stanaitis
---------------

Larry C wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I built two cricket tables for a friend as a wedding gift. My plan was
> to ship them from NE Mass to Southern Cal. The boxes are about a 30" cube.
>
> Well it seems I should have listened to my wife and bought a place
> setting. It is very expensive $180 a box to ship them with UPS or
> FedEx. The box size is to big for the post office.
>
> Anyone have any ideas.
>
> Larry C

FB

Frank Boettcher

in reply to "Larry C" on 06/03/2008 7:47 PM

06/03/2008 3:33 PM

On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 20:39:39 GMT, "Larry C" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> "Larry C" wrote:
>>
>>> It is very expensive $180 a box to ship them with UPS or FedEx. The
>> box
>>> size is to big for the post office.
>>
>> Check trucking company LTL rates for your area.
>>
>> Since most trucking companies give significant discounts to customers,
>> you will get a lower cost if you have a connection to a local company
>> who would ship it for you using their pricing and you pay them
>> including a case of "suds".
>>
>> Lew
>>
>>
>
>Lew,
>
>LTL ?? Less than load
> Location to Location
>
>Thanks for the help
>

Lew's advice is good. Your friend will have to go to the terminal to
pick up the shipment instead of front door delivery, and if you ship
this way, make sure you pack it well. Depending on where it is going,
it might get handled at a number of terminals.

Less than load as compared to dedicated truckload shipments.

Frank

Ll

Leuf

in reply to "Larry C" on 06/03/2008 7:47 PM

07/03/2008 12:03 PM

On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 22:37:33 -0800 (PST), "SonomaProducts.com"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Not sure I understand "Billable weight" I tried it from zip 9xxxx to
>zip 2xxxx (basically across the country) and 30x30x30 at 140 lbs was
>$111 but at 50 lbs was only $50 Fedex ground in 5 days.

It's harder to find on the fedex site but here it is on UPS, I believe
they both use the same formulas.

http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/resources/prepare/dim_weight.html?WT.svl=SubNav&srch_pos=1&srch_phr=dimensional+weight

Basically WxHxD / 194. If the package is small enough (WxHxD < 5000)
then you don't have to worry about it.

There are also a number of other potential fees for large packages, so
anything big you have to enter both the weight and the dimensions of
the package to get an accurate estimate.

And I have had UPS decide the package was 3" deeper than it was when I
shipped it and bill me the difference and there was nothing I could do
about it. If you are just under the limits for a big whopping fee
they'll just make up their dimensions to hit you with it anyway.

I don't ship large items anymore.


-Leuf

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "Larry C" on 06/03/2008 7:47 PM

07/03/2008 10:55 AM


"SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Not sure I understand "Billable weight" I tried it from zip 9xxxx to
zip 2xxxx (basically across the country) and 30x30x30 at 140 lbs was
$111 but at 50 lbs was only $50 Fedex ground in 5 days.



Did you input dimensions for FedEx ground? Freight is classified with
dimensions of the package or in the case of trucks, buy classifications.
Some items go as Class 50, others as high as Class 400. Pound of feathers
versus pound of lead scenario. The feathers take more space on the truck so
you pay more.

Zip 2xxxx is also about 500 miles closer than the OP that has a 0xxx zip.


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