I built a closet upstairs in my bungalow home. It's on one side with a
four foot knee wall and the rest of the wall angles towards center, as
most bungalows do. Therefore, I built the closets with a door height of
5 feet, long enough for three sections with intentions of installing
bi-fold doors. One section is a 5 foot wide opening(two 2.5 ft
bi-folds), the next is four foot(two 2 foot bi-folds) and the last is
three(two 1.5 foot bi-folds). Ideally, I would like the doors to be
raised panel, but these are not standard size and thus, must be made. I
would like to attempt that, unfortunately, I don't own a raised panel
router bit set and not ready to fork over the type of money required for
a set.
Is there another method to making raised panel doors? Is it as good as
doing with a router bit set? Any other options anyone can offer other
than pay someone to make them? BTW, the option to pay someone is a
consideration but I don't know what a reasonable cost would be, other
than the cost of the wood, but uncertain of labor cost. Help on that is
also appreciated.
Thank you
On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 18:37:05 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Meanie wrote:
>
>> Obviously I haven't viewed other sites. The sets I saw were minimum
>> of $150 for three bit set consisting of the raised bit, stile and rail
>> bits, as you mentioned. I was also viewing Freuds, Whiteside and other
>> more popular sets since I am under the impression those are the best
>> brands and if I spend money, I like things to last.
>
>A very good philosophy when purchasing things. But... one to be tempered by
>the thought of how much will one really use a tool? If it is a one or two
>or three time use, then that lifelong quality is kind of a waste. Almost
>anything you buy will last long than one or two or three times of use -
>including the Harbor Freight stuff. If you were using it everyday like a
>cabinet maker would do, then obviously, that would not be your choice. If
>you plan on building a countable number of raised panels in your lifetime,
>then they are probably not a bad investment.
>
>>
>> I'll have to view more or consider the link you provided as I'm now
>> intrigued.
>>
>
>Getting intrigues when it comes to buying tools is a very dangerous thing...
I agree in general purpose with what your saying about usage vs cost
but if your talking large diameter router bits you want to consider
the shrapnel effect if the cheap one comes apart.
Mike M
Meanie wrote:
>>
>>> Obviously I haven't viewed other sites. The sets I saw were
>>> minimum
>>> of $150 for three bit set consisting of the raised bit, stile and
>>> rail
>>> bits, as you mentioned. I was also viewing Freuds, Whiteside and
>>> other
>>> more popular sets since I am under the impression those are the
>>> best
>>> brands and if I spend money, I like things to last.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Mike Marlow" wrote:
>>A very good philosophy when purchasing things. But... one to be
>>tempered by
>>the thought of how much will one really use a tool? If it is a one
>>or two
>>or three time use, then that lifelong quality is kind of a waste.
>>Almost
>>anything you buy will last long than one or two or three times of
>>use -
>>including the Harbor Freight stuff. If you were using it everyday
>>like a
>>cabinet maker would do, then obviously, that would not be your
>>choice. If
>>you plan on building a countable number of raised panels in your
>>lifetime,
>>then they are probably not a bad investment.
>>
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Meanie wrote:
>>>
>>> I'll have to view more or consider the link you provided as I'm
>>> now
>>> intrigued.
-------------------------------------------------------
Mike Marlow" wrote:
>>Getting intrigues when it comes to buying tools is a very dangerous
>>thing...
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"Mike M" wrote:
> I agree in general purpose with what your saying about usage vs cost
> but if your talking large diameter router bits you want to consider
> the shrapnel effect if the cheap one comes apart.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Gain an appreciation for flat panel doors and the whole discussion
becomes moot.
Lew
On 9/2/2013 9:19 PM, Meanie wrote:
> I built a closet upstairs in my bungalow home. It's on one side with a
> four foot knee wall and the rest of the wall angles towards center, as
> most bungalows do. Therefore, I built the closets with a door height of
> 5 feet, long enough for three sections with intentions of installing
> bi-fold doors. One section is a 5 foot wide opening(two 2.5 ft
> bi-folds), the next is four foot(two 2 foot bi-folds) and the last is
> three(two 1.5 foot bi-folds). Ideally, I would like the doors to be
> raised panel, but these are not standard size and thus, must be made. I
> would like to attempt that, unfortunately, I don't own a raised panel
> router bit set and not ready to fork over the type of money required for
> a set.
>
> Is there another method to making raised panel doors? Is it as good as
> doing with a router bit set? Any other options anyone can offer other
> than pay someone to make them? BTW, the option to pay someone is a
> consideration but I don't know what a reasonable cost would be, other
> than the cost of the wood, but uncertain of labor cost. Help on that is
> also appreciated.
>
> Thank you
Sure just cut them on the tablesaw. Simple and effective.
Just do a google search on cutting raised panels on ts... many youtube I
am sure.
--
Jeff
Meanie wrote:
> I built a closet upstairs in my bungalow home. It's on one side with a
> four foot knee wall and the rest of the wall angles towards center, as
> most bungalows do. Therefore, I built the closets with a door height
> of 5 feet, long enough for three sections with intentions of
> installing bi-fold doors. One section is a 5 foot wide opening(two
> 2.5 ft bi-folds), the next is four foot(two 2 foot bi-folds) and the
> last is three(two 1.5 foot bi-folds). Ideally, I would like the doors
> to be raised panel, but these are not standard size and thus, must be
> made. I would like to attempt that, unfortunately, I don't own a
> raised panel router bit set and not ready to fork over the type of
> money required for a set.
>
> Is there another method to making raised panel doors? Is it as good as
> doing with a router bit set? Any other options anyone can offer other
> than pay someone to make them? BTW, the option to pay someone is a
> consideration but I don't know what a reasonable cost would be, other
> than the cost of the wood, but uncertain of labor cost. Help on that
> is also appreciated.
>
DAGS on rasing panels on a table saw. It's a fairly common practice and if
your table saw is well set up, it can produce a very good product.
Alternatively, you may be able to contract them to a local
woodworker/cabinet maker. Price would depend on where you live, but you
might be very surprised at how affordable this approach can be. You may be
able to escape for only a few hundred bucks - which is not a bad way to go.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
"Meanie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I built a closet upstairs in my bungalow home. It's on
> one side with a four foot knee wall and the rest of the
> wall angles towards center, as most bungalows do.
> Therefore, I built the closets with a door height of 5
> feet, long enough for three sections with intentions of
> installing bi-fold doors. One section is a 5 foot wide
> opening(two 2.5 ft bi-folds), the next is four foot(two 2
> foot bi-folds) and the last is three(two 1.5 foot
> bi-folds). Ideally, I would like the doors to be raised
> panel, but these are not standard size and thus, must be
> made. I would like to attempt that, unfortunately, I
> don't own a raised panel router bit set and not ready to
> fork over the type of money required for a set.
> Is there another method to making raised panel doors? Is
> it as good as doing with a router bit set? Any other
> options anyone can offer other than pay someone to make
> them? BTW, the option to pay someone is a consideration
> but I don't know what a reasonable cost would be, other
> than the cost of the wood, but uncertain of labor cost.
> Help on that is also appreciated.
> Thank you
If you can't afford $25-$35 for a raised panel bit you sure wouldn't want to
hire it done.
http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/smarthtml/pages/raised_panel_router_bits1.html
For that matter, you don't need a special bit to raise a panel...you can do
so with a straight or mortising bit, the wider the better. Of course, that
gives you a right angle which - IMO - is not unattractive; moreover, that
right angle can be modified with a core, cove, "V" or round over bit. If
you want a slope on the horizontal portion, rout out less and use a hand
plane or make a simple jig for a router so that the work van be tilted
slightly. You can also raise a panel on a saw.
But perhaps you were thinking of cope and stick bits for the frame? They
are a bit pricier but not all that much. And if simple is OK, it is easy to
do them on a saw or (router table with simple straight bits) making T&G. If
you don't like the square look, the edges can be shaped with a router bit,
stopping before the corners...that used to be very common. It also used to
be fairly common to continue the profile into the corners by hand.
--
dadiOH
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On 9/3/2013 8:06 AM, dadiOH wrote:
>
> If you can't afford $25-$35 for a raised panel bit you sure wouldn't want to
> hire it done.
> http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/smarthtml/pages/raised_panel_router_bits1.html
>
> For that matter, you don't need a special bit to raise a panel...you can do
> so with a straight or mortising bit, the wider the better. Of course, that
> gives you a right angle which - IMO - is not unattractive; moreover, that
> right angle can be modified with a core, cove, "V" or round over bit. If
> you want a slope on the horizontal portion, rout out less and use a hand
> plane or make a simple jig for a router so that the work van be tilted
> slightly. You can also raise a panel on a saw.
>
> But perhaps you were thinking of cope and stick bits for the frame? They
> are a bit pricier but not all that much. And if simple is OK, it is easy to
> do them on a saw or (router table with simple straight bits) making T&G. If
> you don't like the square look, the edges can be shaped with a router bit,
> stopping before the corners...that used to be very common. It also used to
> be fairly common to continue the profile into the corners by hand.
>
>
Obviously I haven't viewed other sites. The sets I saw were minimum of
$150 for three bit set consisting of the raised bit, stile and rail
bits, as you mentioned. I was also viewing Freuds, Whiteside and other
more popular sets since I am under the impression those are the best
brands and if I spend money, I like things to last.
I'll have to view more or consider the link you provided as I'm now
intrigued.
Thanks
Meanie wrote:
> Obviously I haven't viewed other sites. The sets I saw were minimum
> of $150 for three bit set consisting of the raised bit, stile and rail
> bits, as you mentioned. I was also viewing Freuds, Whiteside and other
> more popular sets since I am under the impression those are the best
> brands and if I spend money, I like things to last.
A very good philosophy when purchasing things. But... one to be tempered by
the thought of how much will one really use a tool? If it is a one or two
or three time use, then that lifelong quality is kind of a waste. Almost
anything you buy will last long than one or two or three times of use -
including the Harbor Freight stuff. If you were using it everyday like a
cabinet maker would do, then obviously, that would not be your choice. If
you plan on building a countable number of raised panels in your lifetime,
then they are probably not a bad investment.
>
> I'll have to view more or consider the link you provided as I'm now
> intrigued.
>
Getting intrigues when it comes to buying tools is a very dangerous thing...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]