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"James"

07/11/2003 9:35 AM

Doors Lock holes?

I'm replacing all my door locks and the new ones require 2 1/8 hole the
existing holes are 1/4 to small. Whats the best way to expand the the holes?

Thanks


This topic has 18 replies

Tt

Trent©

in reply to "James" on 07/11/2003 9:35 AM

09/11/2003 11:19 AM

On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 01:22:34 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Trent© wrote:
>
>> About how to take off a 1/4" of stock?
>>
>> I would be surprised if anything in that thread pertained...or would
>> apply...to his particular problem.
>
>The essence of it was the guy deciding to use Brasso, save his old hardware,
>and forget about drilling new holes entirely, meanwhile the Wreck kept
>feeding him ideas for how to do it for months. We covered everything
>anyone in human history has ever done to a door at least 50 times over I'd
>say. :)

The Wreck...the neighborhood tavern for people who don't wanna go out
in the cold! lol


Have a nice week...

Trent

Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!

Tt

Trent©

in reply to "James" on 07/11/2003 9:35 AM

07/11/2003 8:42 PM

On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:35:37 -0500, "James" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I'm replacing all my door locks and the new ones require 2 1/8 hole the
>existing holes are 1/4 to small. Whats the best way to expand the the holes?

Scribe the new hole diameter by running a pencil at the end of an
adjustable square. Set it to 1/4"...make sure you allow for the
pencil tip...and run it around the existing hole.

Then use a rotary rasp on the end of a drill to knock off the
excess...or use a RotoZip or sabre saw to cut it off. If you use a
sabre saw, make sure you use a metal cutting blade and go slowly.

Good luck.


Have a nice week...

Trent

Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!

Sd

Silvan

in reply to "James" on 07/11/2003 9:35 AM

08/11/2003 12:30 AM

Doug Miller wrote:

> Do a Google search. This topic was discussed extensively in this group a
> few months ago.

Extremely extensively. That thread ran into several billion kilowords I'm
sure.

--
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Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "James" on 07/11/2003 9:35 AM

07/11/2003 3:54 PM

I do this quite often. With the proper size hole saw, drill a hole centered
through a piece of plywood that is approximately 5" by 12". Clamp that
piece of plywood so that it is evenly centered or spaced over the old hole.
Eyeball close always works for me. Use that hole in the plywood to start
and guide hole saw.



"James" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm replacing all my door locks and the new ones require 2 1/8 hole the
> existing holes are 1/4 to small. Whats the best way to expand the the
holes?
>
> Thanks
>
>

HL

Howard Lee Harkness

in reply to "James" on 07/11/2003 9:35 AM

25/11/2003 1:31 AM

[email protected] (Henry E Schaffer) wrote:

> If you fill in the old holes (glue in a round piece of wood of the
>correct thickness) then you can hole-saw a new hole just as you would in
>a new door.

Doh! (hitting head)

--
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Texas Certified Concealed Handgun Instructor
www.CHL-TX.com
[email protected]
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RR

Renata

in reply to "James" on 07/11/2003 9:35 AM

08/11/2003 9:52 PM

The center for the larger holes may not line up with the existing
center.

Several good ideas have already been posted.

Another one I came across somewhere not too long ago was to attach a
thin piece of ply on both sides of the hole, mark (on the ply) the
center for the new locksets, drill, remove plywood. Assumes new hole
will encompass old hold, centered or not. Otherwise you need to fill
the old hole.
Heck, if you properly position the ply pieces (say to the edge of the
door, and some set distance vertically) you can reuse the ply on
additional doors (kinda like the guide bush things another poster
mentioned, I'd guess).

Renata

On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 15:54:41 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I do this quite often. With the proper size hole saw, drill a hole centered
>through a piece of plywood that is approximately 5" by 12". Clamp that
>piece of plywood so that it is evenly centered or spaced over the old hole.
>Eyeball close always works for me. Use that hole in the plywood to start
>and guide hole saw.
>
>
>
>"James" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> I'm replacing all my door locks and the new ones require 2 1/8 hole the
>> existing holes are 1/4 to small. Whats the best way to expand the the
>holes?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>

smart, not dumb for email

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "James" on 07/11/2003 9:35 AM

07/11/2003 2:50 PM


"James" <[email protected]> wrote in message
...
> I'm replacing all my door locks and the new ones require 2 1/8 hole the
> existing holes are 1/4 to small. Whats the best way to expand the the
holes?

Drilling a larger hole using a hole saw is the easy part. The hard part is
getting it aligned properly.

Make a plug of sorts in the existing hold. It does not have to be perfect,
or even round. It just has to be about the same thickness of the door and
go across the center of the hole. This will serve to center the pilot drill
as you cut through the larger diameter with a hole saw.

Drill through the first side and when the pilot drill comes through, drill
from the opposite side.
Ed

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "James" on 07/11/2003 9:35 AM

07/11/2003 3:40 PM


"James" writes:
> I'm replacing all my door locks and the new ones require 2 1/8 hole the
> existing holes are 1/4 to small. Whats the best way to expand the the
holes?

Maintaining registration will be the most difficult part.

There are at least 2-3 different ways to do it.

Might want to try this one.

You want a piece of stock 1-7/8" OD x about 3" lg with a pilot hole drilled
thru the longitudinal axis.

Make sure this piece will slip thru the existing hole in the door and the
hole saw pilot drill will slip in and out of the pilot hole.

Slip the round piece over the pilot drill of a 2-1/8" hole saw, then into
hole in door.

Drill about 1/2" deep, then remove round piece and complete the hole
drilling.

A word of caution:

Clamp a piece of waste material to the back side of the door so that any
break out is eliminated.

The above is a piece of cake. It just takes time and a little patience.

I had to do it several times while building a boat.

HTH


--
Lew

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Visit: <http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett> for Pictures

Sd

Silvan

in reply to "James" on 07/11/2003 9:35 AM

09/11/2003 1:22 AM

Trent© wrote:

> About how to take off a 1/4" of stock?
>
> I would be surprised if anything in that thread pertained...or would
> apply...to his particular problem.

The essence of it was the guy deciding to use Brasso, save his old hardware,
and forget about drilling new holes entirely, meanwhile the Wreck kept
feeding him ideas for how to do it for months. We covered everything
anyone in human history has ever done to a door at least 50 times over I'd
say. :)

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

JM

"John Manders"

in reply to "James" on 07/11/2003 9:35 AM

07/11/2003 3:02 PM


"James" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm replacing all my door locks and the new ones require 2 1/8 hole the
> existing holes are 1/4 to small. Whats the best way to expand the the
holes?
>
> Thanks
>
>
I would use a hole saw and clamp a guide bush to the door to eliminate
wander. The guide bush is simply a piece of hardwood through which you have
already used the hole saw.

John

Sn

--Shiva--

in reply to "James" on 07/11/2003 9:35 AM

09/11/2003 1:46 AM

do NOT misdrill the distance from the edge of door, or you get
to spend some time fixing things with a chisel, if it can be
fixed..
MAG makes some 'fix the goof' plates if things get too bad off.

--Shiva--

hH

[email protected] (Henry E Schaffer)

in reply to "James" on 07/11/2003 9:35 AM

09/11/2003 8:40 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
James <[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm replacing all my door locks and the new ones require 2 1/8 hole the
>existing holes are 1/4 to small. Whats the best way to expand the the holes?

Starret (IIRC) makes a mandrel which holds *two* hole saw blades.
Choose the smaller one to fit the existing hole, and it will center the
larger one.
--
--henry schaffer
[email protected]

hH

[email protected] (Henry E Schaffer)

in reply to "James" on 07/11/2003 9:35 AM

24/11/2003 2:24 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
Howard Lee Harkness <[email protected]> wrote:
>... I have some doors that were outfitted with obsolete lock
>hardware that is no longer in production (company apparently went out
>of business over 10 years ago), and the setback is 1/2 inch off from
>that required for the hardware I want to install (electronically-
>operated lockset with remote). The hole is the right size, just
>offset by 1/2 inch.
>
>What is the best approach to fix this? Basically, I'm hoping for a
>solution that doesn't involve getting new doors.

If you fill in the old holes (glue in a round piece of wood of the
correct thickness) then you can hole-saw a new hole just as you would in
a new door.
--
--henry schaffer
[email protected]

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to "James" on 07/11/2003 9:35 AM

07/11/2003 2:54 PM

In article <[email protected]>, "James" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm replacing all my door locks and the new ones require 2 1/8 hole the
>existing holes are 1/4 to small. Whats the best way to expand the the holes?
>
Do a Google search. This topic was discussed extensively in this group a few
months ago.

--
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America?

Ee

EL

in reply to "James" on 07/11/2003 9:35 AM

24/11/2003 1:24 AM

Starrett makes the tools you need, the Oops Arbor. I have one and find
it invaluable.

http://shop.store.yahoo.com/squaredrive/tools-hole-saws-arbors.html

Boden

James wrote:

> I'm replacing all my door locks and the new ones require 2 1/8 hole the
> existing holes are 1/4 to small. Whats the best way to expand the the holes?
>
> Thanks
>
>

GM

"George M. Kazaka"

in reply to "James" on 07/11/2003 9:35 AM

07/11/2003 12:12 PM

This is the easiest and most accurate way, I do it all the time
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I do this quite often. With the proper size hole saw, drill a hole
centered
> through a piece of plywood that is approximately 5" by 12". Clamp that
> piece of plywood so that it is evenly centered or spaced over the old
hole.
> Eyeball close always works for me. Use that hole in the plywood to start
> and guide hole saw.
>
>
>
> "James" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I'm replacing all my door locks and the new ones require 2 1/8 hole the
> > existing holes are 1/4 to small. Whats the best way to expand the the
> holes?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
>
>

Tt

Trent©

in reply to "James" on 07/11/2003 9:35 AM

08/11/2003 8:56 PM

On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 00:30:43 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Doug Miller wrote:
>
>> Do a Google search. This topic was discussed extensively in this group a
>> few months ago.
>
>Extremely extensively. That thread ran into several billion kilowords I'm
>sure.

About how to take off a 1/4" of stock?

I would be surprised if anything in that thread pertained...or would
apply...to his particular problem.


Have a nice week...

Trent

Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!

HL

Howard Lee Harkness

in reply to "James" on 07/11/2003 9:35 AM

24/11/2003 2:18 AM

EL <[email protected]> wrote:

>Starrett makes the tools you need, the Oops Arbor. I have one and find
>it invaluable.
>
>http://shop.store.yahoo.com/squaredrive/tools-hole-saws-arbors.html
>
>Boden
>
>James wrote:
>
>> I'm replacing all my door locks and the new ones require 2 1/8 hole the
>> existing holes are 1/4 to small. Whats the best way to expand the the holes?

Interesting tool. I have a similar problem, but this tool won't quite
handle it. I have some doors that were outfitted with obsolete lock
hardware that is no longer in production (company apparently went out
of business over 10 years ago), and the setback is 1/2 inch off from
that required for the hardware I want to install (electronically-
operated lockset with remote). The hole is the right size, just
offset by 1/2 inch.

What is the best approach to fix this? Basically, I'm hoping for a
solution that doesn't involve getting new doors.

--
Howard Lee Harkness
Texas Certified Concealed Handgun Instructor
www.CHL-TX.com
[email protected]
Low-cost Domain Registration and Hosting! www.Texas-Domains.com


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