On Mar 1, 11:33=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On Feb 29, 11:00 pm, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > Just posted this week's set:
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> >http://55tools.blogspot.com/
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> > Rob
> >2496. Smith Motor Wheel for bicycles.
> >http://www.american-automobiles.com/Articles/Smith-Briggs-Stratton-Mo...
> >Karl
>
> That's a good link, thanks. =A0I was looking for a video of one in use bu=
t had
> no luck, there was a video of one running but it wasn't attached to a bik=
e.
Look down at Ed's post. This is a copy of what I posted there:
Did a search. Here's why: "Similarly to Shaw, A.O. Smith also
motorized bicycles with a device call the Smith Motor Wheel. To
increase sales of its bicycle engine the Smith company developed and
sold a small buckboard car call the Smith Flyer which was propelled by
the motor wheel. Later still, in May 1919, A.O. Smith sold the Motor
Wheel rights to the Briggs & Stratton Corporation of Milwaukee,
Wisconsin. Briggs & Stratton sold the buckboard car as the Briggs &
Stratton Flyer.
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawmobile
Fourth paragraph.
Karl
Holding down Pinocchio, while his nostrils were drilled?
I'm just astounded to get one right.
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"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> 2492 wood worker's hold down clamp?
You're correct that it's a wood worker's clamp but it was used for a
specific purpose.
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
2491 a punch and die to punch square holes in sheet metal.
This looks like it is part of an old machine that does that.
Usually wheel driven, not hydraulic...
On 3/1/2012 4:36 AM, Rose wrote:
> On 01/03/2012 09:00, Rob H. wrote:
>> Just posted this week's set:
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>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
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>
>
> 2495
>
> very similar
>
> http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/50187340/#
Well, that proves it. Wood workers clamp, and chain. Definitely for holding
down Pinnochio.
Did I mention that Gepetto was into fettishes? He could only carve on little
wooden boys if they were chained down. You shoulda seen the girl dolls he
carved, too. Lawdy, lawdy!
"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but leather and chains excite me" --
Gepetto
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"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> 2492 wood worker's hold down clamp?
>
> You're correct that it's a wood worker's clamp but it was used for a
> specific purpose.
>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
I should have mentioned that it's missing a chain and a part that fits on
the other end of the chain.
2491 no clue
2492 wood worker's hold down clamp?
2493 trigger mechanism for a leg hold trap
2494 Mason's device, this is cemented into a wall, to provide for hanging a
flag
2495 Nicely made box, but no ide as to the use
2496 took some looking. I think it's a gasoline powered carbide saw.
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"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Just posted this week's set:
http://55tools.blogspot.com/
Rob
"Rob H." <[email protected]> fired this volley in
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> I hope you're not disappointed to hear the clamp is for making boats,
> although maybe you're correct and the patent is a ruse.
I can guarantee the patent was falsely prosecuted. That clamp _cannot_
work. Even "back then" a good model would convince the patent clerks,
even when they didn't understand the principles. Nowadays, you don't
have to prove _anything_ except that you were first to file for the idea
(It used to be "first to conceive it", but no longer).
(Just work out the moments acting on the elements)
LLoyd
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> As the saying goes you can not have to many clamps. I think the
> drawings is not showing the clamps that hold the board to the rib of
> the boat. Once the boards are held from rotating, the clamp will work.
You'd have to clamp the _clamp_ to the side to make it work.
The moments are all wrong, EVEN if the boards were tightly clamped to the
ribs. It's a pretty simple exercise to see where the vectors will be.
With any useful amount of pressure, the clamp would rotate free of the top
board, even if the board weren't free to move.
LLoyd
"Rob H." wrote:
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> Just posted this week's set:
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> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
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> Rob
Item 2491 is known as an "upset swage". It is a die
that is used to shape the teeth of a saw to make them wider.
There is picture of someone using a swage in this link:
http://www.senecasaw.com/docs/1011.1forum.pdf
The patent calls it a saw set, but that is not what is usually
called a saw set nowadays. It is odd that the patent doesn't mention
the type of saw that the swage is designed for. The link above shows
using a swage on a rip saw but item 2491 looks like a swage for
a crosscut saw.
On Feb 29, 11:00=A0pm, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just posted this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob
2496. Smith Motor Wheel for bicycles.
http://www.american-automobiles.com/Articles/Smith-Briggs-Stratton-Motor-Wh=
eel.html
Karl
On Feb 29, 11:00=A0pm, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just posted this week's set:
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> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob
2496. Smith Motor Wheel for a bicycle.http://www.american-
automobiles.com/Articles/Smith-Briggs-Stratton-Motor-Wheel.html
Karl
I've seen this kind of thing uses as a magazine rack. Found in libraries.
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"Mouse" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
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>>
>> Rob
2495-- a string dispenser
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On Feb 29, 11:00 pm, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just posted this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob
>2496. Smith Motor Wheel for bicycles.
>http://www.american-automobiles.com/Articles/Smith-Briggs-Stratton-Motor-Wheel.html
>Karl
That's a good link, thanks. I was looking for a video of one in use but had
no luck, there was a video of one running but it wasn't attached to a bike.
"Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61***[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Well, that proves it. Wood workers clamp, and chain. Definitely for
> holding
> down Pinnochio.
>
> Did I mention that Gepetto was into fettishes? He could only carve on
> little
> wooden boys if they were chained down. You shoulda seen the girl dolls he
> carved, too. Lawdy, lawdy!
>
> "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but leather and chains excite
> me" --
> Gepetto
I hope you're not disappointed to hear the clamp is for making boats,
although maybe you're correct and the patent is a ruse.
I had previously posted the first item in this set around six years ago,
never found a solid answer for it but thought it was some type of punch. I
decided to repost it after recently finding its patent.
The answers for this week's set have been posted:
http://55tools.blogspot.com/2012/03/set-430.html#answers
> >2496. Smith Motor Wheel for bicycles.
> >http://www.american-automobiles.com/Articles/Smith-Briggs-Stratton-Mo...
> >Karl
>
> That's a good link, thanks. I was looking for a video of one in use but
> had
> no luck, there was a video of one running but it wasn't attached to a
> bike.
>Look down at Ed's post. This is a copy of what I posted there:
>Did a search. Here's why: "Similarly to Shaw, A.O. Smith also
>motorized bicycles with a device call the Smith Motor Wheel. To
>increase sales of its bicycle engine the Smith company developed and
>sold a small buckboard car call the Smith Flyer which was propelled by
>the motor wheel. Later still, in May 1919, A.O. Smith sold the Motor
>Wheel rights to the Briggs & Stratton Corporation of Milwaukee,
>Wisconsin. Briggs & Stratton sold the buckboard car as the Briggs &
>Stratton Flyer.
>From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawmobile
>Fourth paragraph.
>Karl
Thanks, looks like it would have been a fun go-cart.
"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" wrote ..
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> fired this volley in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> I hope you're not disappointed to hear the clamp is for making
>> boats,
>> although maybe you're correct and the patent is a ruse.
>
> I can guarantee the patent was falsely prosecuted. That clamp
> _cannot_
> work. Even "back then" a good model would convince the patent
> clerks,
> even when they didn't understand the principles. Nowadays, you
> don't
> have to prove _anything_ except that you were first to file for the
> idea
> (It used to be "first to conceive it", but no longer).
>
As the saying goes you can not have to many clamps. I think the
drawings is not showing the clamps that hold the board to the rib of
the boat. Once the boards are held from rotating, the clamp will work.
"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" wrote in
> "Stephen B." fired this volley in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> As the saying goes you can not have to many clamps. I think the
>> drawings is not showing the clamps that hold the board to the rib
>> of
>> the boat. Once the boards are held from rotating, the clamp will
>> work.
>
> You'd have to clamp the _clamp_ to the side to make it work.
>
> The moments are all wrong, EVEN if the boards were tightly clamped
> to the
> ribs. It's a pretty simple exercise to see where the vectors will
> be.
> With any useful amount of pressure, the clamp would rotate free of
> the top
> board, even if the board weren't free to move.
>
Think of a Christmas stocking hanger...
The moment around the screw head keeps the chain end flush to the
boards, which counteract the of set location of the chain pulling.
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Rob
>
> Item 2491 is known as an "upset swage". It is a die
> that is used to shape the teeth of a saw to make them wider.
>
> There is picture of someone using a swage in this link:
> http://www.senecasaw.com/docs/1011.1forum.pdf
>
> The patent calls it a saw set, but that is not what is usually
> called a saw set nowadays. It is odd that the patent doesn't mention
> the type of saw that the swage is designed for. The link above shows
> using a swage on a rip saw but item 2491 looks like a swage for
> a crosscut saw.
Thanks, I think you are correct, and just changed my answer. The patent
that I listed was definitely lacking in good information on how it was use,
this patent was an improved version of an earlier one which can be seen at
the link below. You're right about the saw type, the earlier patent states
that the inventor experimented mainly on large crosscut saws, but also
proposed to use it on carpenter's handsaws and crosscut saws generally.
http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT165464
2491: Slot hole punch for leather goods?
2492: Press, bearing?
2493: ?? I see the level in it. so it holds something in a plane. It
also appears to pivot on the lug.
2494: Part of a clevis hook?
2495: file / magazine holder.
2496: A gas powered rubber tire? Moves something down the line?
On 3/1/2012 4:00 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> Just posted this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
On 2012-03-01, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just posted this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
Posting from Rec.crafts.metalworking as always.
2491) Looks like a blacksmith's tool for making rectangular
holes in ferrous metals of some thickness beyond normal sheet
steel.
There needs to be a matching hole in the anvil, or in a die in
the anvil.
2492) Sticks through a hole in a work surface and hooks there. The
screw applies clamping force to hold a workpiece to the
surface. It appears to be missing the swiveling pad which
is normally on these and on C-clamp screws.
2493) Kind or hard to see -- too dark and not enough processing in
the digital world to lighten the gamma.
But -- at a guess, it is some form of door closer designed to
pull the door closed, but avoid slamming.
2494) Looks like something designed to be welded to a large steel
object to provide guidance for cables or ropes. At a guess, for
maritime use.
2495) Perhaps a display stand for seed packets?
2496) Looks like part of a motorization kit for a bicycle, but on a
stand for tuning and/or repair.
Now to post this and see what others have suggested.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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