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"Moe"

05/07/2004 9:02 PM

Newbie to newbies

Hi:

There's an excellent book on WW for beginners that I bought on sale for
$17.95 at Lowe's (original price $29.95.) It's titled "The Complete Book of
Woodworking," published by Landauer Corporation.

The book has step-by-step guides on WW techniques, tools and lots of tips
and jigs. Of the 480 pages, 317 are dedicated to 40 projects with layout,
shopping list, cutting list, and order of assembly among other useful info.

Just wanted to contribute. (I have nothing to gain on this.)
I've been hovering in this NG for a while, lapping up on the knowledge here.
I feel indebted. Since there's nothing I can contribute to the knowledge of
the group, I contribute this to newbies who, like me hover silently in the
background.

Thanks
Moe
---
"Be tender with the young; compassionate with the old; sympathetic to the
striving; and tolerant with the weak and the wrong, for in your life, you
will be all of these." Author unknown


This topic has 14 replies

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to "Moe" on 05/07/2004 9:02 PM

06/07/2004 2:26 AM

Moe wrote:

> Hi:
>
> There's an excellent book on WW for beginners that I bought on sale for
> $17.95 at Lowe's (original price $29.95.) It's titled "The Complete Book of
> Woodworking," published by Landauer Corporation.
>
> The book has step-by-step guides on WW techniques, tools and lots of tips
> and jigs. Of the 480 pages, 317 are dedicated to 40 projects with layout,
> shopping list, cutting list, and order of assembly among other useful info.
>
> Just wanted to contribute. (I have nothing to gain on this.)
> I've been hovering in this NG for a while, lapping up on the knowledge here.
> I feel indebted. Since there's nothing I can contribute to the knowledge of
> the group, I contribute this to newbies who, like me hover silently in the
> background.
>
> Thanks
> Moe
> ---
> "Be tender with the young; compassionate with the old; sympathetic to the
> striving; and tolerant with the weak and the wrong, for in your life, you
> will be all of these." Author unknown
>
>
you can contribute PLENTY to the group by merely asking WW
questions to increase the S/N ratio. :) With Watson gone,
more threads will likely be WW related, but we can always
use more.

dave

jk

"john knight"

in reply to "Moe" on 05/07/2004 9:02 PM

05/07/2004 11:04 PM

thanks , will check it out....
"Moe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi:
>
> There's an excellent book on WW for beginners that I bought on sale for
> $17.95 at Lowe's (original price $29.95.) It's titled "The Complete Book
of
> Woodworking," published by Landauer Corporation.
>
> The book has step-by-step guides on WW techniques, tools and lots of tips
> and jigs. Of the 480 pages, 317 are dedicated to 40 projects with layout,
> shopping list, cutting list, and order of assembly among other useful
info.
>
> Just wanted to contribute. (I have nothing to gain on this.)
> I've been hovering in this NG for a while, lapping up on the knowledge
here.
> I feel indebted. Since there's nothing I can contribute to the knowledge
of
> the group, I contribute this to newbies who, like me hover silently in the
> background.
>
> Thanks
> Moe
> ---
> "Be tender with the young; compassionate with the old; sympathetic to the
> striving; and tolerant with the weak and the wrong, for in your life, you
> will be all of these." Author unknown
>
>

Gg

"Groggy"

in reply to "Moe" on 05/07/2004 9:02 PM

06/07/2004 5:38 AM

Moe,

I keep a reference page for WW book info at:

http://rec.woodworking.homeip.net/wood/reference/books.htm

If you don't mind, I'll add your comments next time I do an update.

regards,

Greg

cb

charlie b

in reply to "Moe" on 05/07/2004 9:02 PM

06/07/2004 10:10 AM

Mutt wrote:

snip

> Regretably, Tage died a month or so ago, so we won't see any more
> books from him. If you read his book, you will find he was a
> practical man, and his views on technique were 'whatever gets it done
> properly' (with the emphasis on properly) and this approach is, in my
> view, of great use to folks whether they've been working wood 1 year
> or 25 years. I refer to the book often to see "how Tage did it." Now
> I guess, its how Tage would have done it.

I'm betting he's still doing it, just not where we can enjoy
watching and listening. I'm certain that he's already got
God chuckling and asking His Kid about woodworking. Imagine
THAT Father Son project! Then again - maybe we're it.

charlie b

cb

charlie b

in reply to "Moe" on 05/07/2004 9:02 PM

08/07/2004 10:04 AM

Go with surface mount electrical outlets - you WILL want
to move them or add to them as you set up and start using
your shop. It's much easier if the wiring is done in exposed
conduit than buried in a wall behind ply and/or drywall.
Use Quad boxes (holds two duplex outlets) - better to have
too many outlets than too few.

Always have your lights on a separate circuit, or better
yet on two separate ciruits, than your wall outlets. You
don't want to be in the dark with spinning carbide!

And screw rather than nail ply to the studs. Much
easier to open up a wall later.

Wood floor if you can - chisels and planes won't
self destruct on impact with a wood floor.

just somethings to think about.

charlie b

TB

"Thomas Bunetta"

in reply to "Moe" on 05/07/2004 9:02 PM

08/07/2004 5:57 AM

Consider having a trough big enough for dust collector ducting cast into the
floor... no (or few) overhead runs.
Tom
"MG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm glad to know there are more newbies like me out there. I'm just in the
> process of having a shop built on the garage of my new house. Met with the
> architect today. I'm sure I'll be asking a lot of "dumb" questions.
>
>
> Mark
> "Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Moe wrote:
> >
> > > Hi:
> > >
> > > There's an excellent book on WW for beginners that I bought on sale
for
> > > $17.95 at Lowe's (original price $29.95.) It's titled "The Complete
> Book of
> > > Woodworking," published by Landauer Corporation.
> > >
> > > The book has step-by-step guides on WW techniques, tools and lots of
> tips
> > > and jigs. Of the 480 pages, 317 are dedicated to 40 projects with
> layout,
> > > shopping list, cutting list, and order of assembly among other useful
> info.
> > >
> > > Just wanted to contribute. (I have nothing to gain on this.)
> > > I've been hovering in this NG for a while, lapping up on the knowledge
> here.
> > > I feel indebted. Since there's nothing I can contribute to the
knowledge
> of
> > > the group, I contribute this to newbies who, like me hover silently in
> the
> > > background.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Moe
> > > ---
> > > "Be tender with the young; compassionate with the old; sympathetic to
> the
> > > striving; and tolerant with the weak and the wrong, for in your life,
> you
> > > will be all of these." Author unknown
> > >
> > >
> > you can contribute PLENTY to the group by merely asking WW
> > questions to increase the S/N ratio. :) With Watson gone,
> > more threads will likely be WW related, but we can always
> > use more.
> >
> > dave
> >
>
>

bM

in reply to "Moe" on 05/07/2004 9:02 PM

06/07/2004 5:21 AM

Moe: Once you finish reading that one, do yourself a huge favor and
buy a copy of Tage Frid's two volume set on woodworking (they issued
it in paperback in one volume). See:
http://www.taunton.com/store/pages/070198.asp He also wrote one
volume on finishing. It may contain more information than you need
just right now, but also has discussions of basic technique that will
make your projects better, and if you are still working from plans,
you will find yourself making changes to the plan to make the piece
better. I have no affiliation here other than an incredible respect
for the man's craftmanship.

Regretably, Tage died a month or so ago, so we won't see any more
books from him. If you read his book, you will find he was a
practical man, and his views on technique were 'whatever gets it done
properly' (with the emphasis on properly) and this approach is, in my
view, of great use to folks whether they've been working wood 1 year
or 25 years. I refer to the book often to see "how Tage did it." Now
I guess, its how Tage would have done it.

Mutt


"Moe" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Hi:
>
> There's an excellent book on WW for beginners that I bought on sale for
> $17.95 at Lowe's (original price $29.95.) It's titled "The Complete Book of
> Woodworking," published by Landauer Corporation.
>
> The book has step-by-step guides on WW techniques, tools and lots of tips
> and jigs. Of the 480 pages, 317 are dedicated to 40 projects with layout,
> shopping list, cutting list, and order of assembly among other useful info.
>
> Just wanted to contribute. (I have nothing to gain on this.)
> I've been hovering in this NG for a while, lapping up on the knowledge here.
> I feel indebted. Since there's nothing I can contribute to the knowledge of
> the group, I contribute this to newbies who, like me hover silently in the
> background.
>
> Thanks
> Moe
> ---
> "Be tender with the young; compassionate with the old; sympathetic to the
> striving; and tolerant with the weak and the wrong, for in your life, you
> will be all of these." Author unknown

bM

in reply to "Moe" on 05/07/2004 9:02 PM

08/07/2004 7:11 AM

Panel the walls with wood (I used 3/8 CDX) so you can screw things to
them without worrying about studs. If code requires wallboard, think
about putting the CDX underneath. Run plenty of outlets, spec 20amp
wiring, get a bigger sized subpanel so you can add more service. Plan
for wood storage high on the walls.

Mutt



"MG" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I'm glad to know there are more newbies like me out there. I'm just in the
> process of having a shop built on the garage of my new house. Met with the
> architect today. I'm sure I'll be asking a lot of "dumb" questions.
>
>
>

Mm

"MG"

in reply to "Moe" on 05/07/2004 9:02 PM

06/07/2004 9:31 PM

I'm glad to know there are more newbies like me out there. I'm just in the
process of having a shop built on the garage of my new house. Met with the
architect today. I'm sure I'll be asking a lot of "dumb" questions.


Mark
"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Moe wrote:
>
> > Hi:
> >
> > There's an excellent book on WW for beginners that I bought on sale for
> > $17.95 at Lowe's (original price $29.95.) It's titled "The Complete
Book of
> > Woodworking," published by Landauer Corporation.
> >
> > The book has step-by-step guides on WW techniques, tools and lots of
tips
> > and jigs. Of the 480 pages, 317 are dedicated to 40 projects with
layout,
> > shopping list, cutting list, and order of assembly among other useful
info.
> >
> > Just wanted to contribute. (I have nothing to gain on this.)
> > I've been hovering in this NG for a while, lapping up on the knowledge
here.
> > I feel indebted. Since there's nothing I can contribute to the knowledge
of
> > the group, I contribute this to newbies who, like me hover silently in
the
> > background.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Moe
> > ---
> > "Be tender with the young; compassionate with the old; sympathetic to
the
> > striving; and tolerant with the weak and the wrong, for in your life,
you
> > will be all of these." Author unknown
> >
> >
> you can contribute PLENTY to the group by merely asking WW
> questions to increase the S/N ratio. :) With Watson gone,
> more threads will likely be WW related, but we can always
> use more.
>
> dave
>

nN

[email protected] (Nate Perkins)

in reply to "Moe" on 05/07/2004 9:02 PM

06/07/2004 6:14 PM

"Moe" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> There's an excellent book on WW for beginners that I bought on sale for
> $17.95 at Lowe's (original price $29.95.) It's titled "The Complete Book of
> Woodworking," published by Landauer Corporation.
>

Hi Moe,

Like you, I am pretty new to the hobby too (a year or two).

My first books for learning were the set of paperbacks (in a slipcase)
from Taunton, called "Essentials of Woodworking."

I also heartily agree with the recommendation of another poster for
"Tage Frid Teaches Woodworking vols 1 and 2" in paperback. That book
will really grow with you.

Cheers,
Nate

Ko

"Kevin"

in reply to "Moe" on 05/07/2004 9:02 PM

10/07/2004 4:06 AM

Make sure you have a few 220 outlets for those larger power tools.

And you can't hardly make it too big. I have an 11' x 20' (3rd garage bay)
shop and it just isn't big enough. I want to get good enough to make
furntiure for my home. But I can already see that I am going to constantly
be struggling to manuever around in that small space. You can make it work,
but you end up trading the time you spend moving things around for the money
you saved by not making it larger.


"Mark Jerde" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> charlie b wrote:
>
> > Always have your lights on a separate circuit, or better
> > yet on two separate ciruits, than your wall outlets. You
> > don't want to be in the dark with spinning carbide!
>
> Amen, brother! I had this happen once before I did something about the
> wiring in my gar^H^H^Hshop.
>
> -- Mark
>
>

Aa

"AArDvarK"

in reply to "Moe" on 05/07/2004 9:02 PM

06/07/2004 8:08 AM


Thanks Moe! Need to know all I can here... havn't even made cut-one myself.
Alex

nn

in reply to "Moe" on 05/07/2004 9:02 PM

07/07/2004 12:26 PM

Get a sink in the shop, lights on separate circuit and phone line.

On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 21:31:01 -0400, "MG" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I'm glad to know there are more newbies like me out there. I'm just in the
>process of having a shop built on the garage of my new house. Met with the
>architect today. I'm sure I'll be asking a lot of "dumb" questions.

MJ

"Mark Jerde"

in reply to "Moe" on 05/07/2004 9:02 PM

09/07/2004 12:56 AM

charlie b wrote:

> Always have your lights on a separate circuit, or better
> yet on two separate ciruits, than your wall outlets. You
> don't want to be in the dark with spinning carbide!

Amen, brother! I had this happen once before I did something about the
wiring in my gar^H^H^Hshop.

-- Mark


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