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"Jon Endres, PE"

02/11/2004 5:46 PM

What's a gloat?

You guys who are paying near-retail price for lumber, or even a buck a board
foot, don't know the meaning.



Gloat is when you spend ten grand on a scruffy old Woodmizer mill, 4wd
tractor and a few new chains for the saw, go out in the woods, and manage
over the course of a year to cut over 20,000 board feet of timbers and
boards, about 2/3 pine and the rest ash and cherry and sticker it all in the
yard. Realize that you love doing it so much that you'd rather run the mill
than spend the time in the shop, so your time costs nothing to you. The
best part is so you can build a house and shop using your own trees on your
own land and save a pile of $$$. At last count, able to put probably forty
thousand dollars back into appliances, tile and fixtures for what would have
been a pretty bland and uninspired house.



Gloat is also realizing that your friends and colleagues know you have a
mill, and will gladly give you trees and logs because they need to get rid
of them. That's why you still have several thousand board feet of white oak
and sugar maple in the yard needing to be cut, and why there's a 32"
diameter cherry tree that scales out at over 1500 board feet sitting in the
woods in the next town over, and all you have to do is go get it. Or why,
because of the generosity of a friend, you can make all the counters in your
kitchen out of 8/4 beech instead of formica. What's the price of all this?
Needing to do the work yourself, working harder that you've ever worked
before, because it's all worth it in the end.



The best gloat of all is having a house full of kids who want to spend time
with their Dad in the shop, making 'stuff', and a wife who appreciates the
effort and encourages my so-called 'hobby'.



JonE


This topic has 9 replies

r

in reply to "Jon Endres, PE" on 02/11/2004 5:46 PM

03/11/2004 10:19 AM

Oh My God, you like, so, so. . . SUCK dude!



On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 17:46:44 -0500, "Jon Endres, PE"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>You guys who are paying near-retail price for lumber, or even a buck a board
>foot, don't know the meaning.
>
>
>
>Gloat is when you spend ten grand on a scruffy old Woodmizer mill, 4wd
>tractor and a few new chains for the saw, go out in the woods, and manage
>over the course of a year to cut over 20,000 board feet of timbers and
>boards, about 2/3 pine and the rest ash and cherry and sticker it all in the
>yard. Realize that you love doing it so much that you'd rather run the mill
>than spend the time in the shop, so your time costs nothing to you. The
>best part is so you can build a house and shop using your own trees on your
>own land and save a pile of $$$. At last count, able to put probably forty
>thousand dollars back into appliances, tile and fixtures for what would have
>been a pretty bland and uninspired house.
>
>
>
>Gloat is also realizing that your friends and colleagues know you have a
>mill, and will gladly give you trees and logs because they need to get rid
>of them. That's why you still have several thousand board feet of white oak
>and sugar maple in the yard needing to be cut, and why there's a 32"
>diameter cherry tree that scales out at over 1500 board feet sitting in the
>woods in the next town over, and all you have to do is go get it. Or why,
>because of the generosity of a friend, you can make all the counters in your
>kitchen out of 8/4 beech instead of formica. What's the price of all this?
>Needing to do the work yourself, working harder that you've ever worked
>before, because it's all worth it in the end.
>
>
>
>The best gloat of all is having a house full of kids who want to spend time
>with their Dad in the shop, making 'stuff', and a wife who appreciates the
>effort and encourages my so-called 'hobby'.
>
>
>
>JonE
>

That which does not kill us makes us stronger.
--Friedrich Nietzsche

Never get your philosophy from some guy who ended up in the looney bin.
-- Wiz Zumwalt

Di

Dave in Fairfax

in reply to "Jon Endres, PE" on 02/11/2004 5:46 PM

02/11/2004 11:30 PM

"Jon Endres, PE" wrote:
snip of a wonderful life

Good for you and yours Jon.
Dave in Fairfax
--
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reply-to doesn't work
use:
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http://www.capwoodturners.org/
PATINA
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JT

Joe Taxpayer

in reply to "Jon Endres, PE" on 02/11/2004 5:46 PM

02/11/2004 11:41 PM

Sorry for top-posting, this isn't a gloat, it's a Mastercard comercial;

Old Woodmizer Mill: $10,000
Beech countertop: free
House full of kids working with dad in the shop: Priceless.


Oh, and one more thing, you suck!
JOE

Jon Endres, PE wrote:
> You guys who are paying near-retail price for lumber, or even a buck a board
> foot, don't know the meaning.
>
>
>
> Gloat is when you spend ten grand on a scruffy old Woodmizer mill, 4wd
> tractor and a few new chains for the saw, go out in the woods, and manage
> over the course of a year to cut over 20,000 board feet of timbers and
> boards, about 2/3 pine and the rest ash and cherry and sticker it all in the
> yard. Realize that you love doing it so much that you'd rather run the mill
> than spend the time in the shop, so your time costs nothing to you. The
> best part is so you can build a house and shop using your own trees on your
> own land and save a pile of $$$. At last count, able to put probably forty
> thousand dollars back into appliances, tile and fixtures for what would have
> been a pretty bland and uninspired house.
>
>
>
> Gloat is also realizing that your friends and colleagues know you have a
> mill, and will gladly give you trees and logs because they need to get rid
> of them. That's why you still have several thousand board feet of white oak
> and sugar maple in the yard needing to be cut, and why there's a 32"
> diameter cherry tree that scales out at over 1500 board feet sitting in the
> woods in the next town over, and all you have to do is go get it. Or why,
> because of the generosity of a friend, you can make all the counters in your
> kitchen out of 8/4 beech instead of formica. What's the price of all this?
> Needing to do the work yourself, working harder that you've ever worked
> before, because it's all worth it in the end.
>
>
>
> The best gloat of all is having a house full of kids who want to spend time
> with their Dad in the shop, making 'stuff', and a wife who appreciates the
> effort and encourages my so-called 'hobby'.
>
>
>
> JonE
>
>

Rr

"RonB"

in reply to "Jon Endres, PE" on 02/11/2004 5:46 PM

02/11/2004 4:56 PM

Don't take it personally. However, I believe the standard response to this
type of gloat is:

We Hate You!


(or is it "You Suck")

Enjoy!!

Rr

"RonB"

in reply to "Jon Endres, PE" on 02/11/2004 5:46 PM

03/11/2004 8:21 AM

Actually I don't think we have to tell you "enjoy". Sounds like you, your
friends and family have that figured out.

"RonB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:QgUhd.43607$EZ.28247@okepread07...
> Don't take it personally. However, I believe the standard response to
> this type of gloat is:
>
> We Hate You!
>
>
> (or is it "You Suck")
>
> Enjoy!!
>

dd

[email protected] (dteckie)

in reply to "Jon Endres, PE" on 02/11/2004 5:46 PM

03/11/2004 3:32 AM

"Jon Endres, PE" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> You guys who are paying near-retail price for lumber, or even a buck a board
> foot, don't know the meaning.
>
>
>
> Gloat is when you spend ten grand on a scruffy old Woodmizer mill, 4wd
> tractor and a few new chains for the saw, go out in the woods, and manage
> over the course of a year to cut over 20,000 board feet of timbers and
> boards, about 2/3 pine and the rest ash and cherry and sticker it all in the
> yard. Realize that you love doing it so much that you'd rather run the mill
> than spend the time in the shop, so your time costs nothing to you. The
> best part is so you can build a house and shop using your own trees on your
> own land and save a pile of $$$. At last count, able to put probably forty
> thousand dollars back into appliances, tile and fixtures for what would have
> been a pretty bland and uninspired house.
>
>
>
> Gloat is also realizing that your friends and colleagues know you have a
> mill, and will gladly give you trees and logs because they need to get rid
> of them. That's why you still have several thousand board feet of white oak
> and sugar maple in the yard needing to be cut, and why there's a 32"
> diameter cherry tree that scales out at over 1500 board feet sitting in the
> woods in the next town over, and all you have to do is go get it. Or why,
> because of the generosity of a friend, you can make all the counters in your
> kitchen out of 8/4 beech instead of formica. What's the price of all this?
> Needing to do the work yourself, working harder that you've ever worked
> before, because it's all worth it in the end.
>
>
>
> The best gloat of all is having a house full of kids who want to spend time
> with their Dad in the shop, making 'stuff', and a wife who appreciates the
> effort and encourages my so-called 'hobby'.
>
>
>
> JonE

And here I thought Gloat was a "Loud Goat" what was I thinking?

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "Jon Endres, PE" on 02/11/2004 5:46 PM

03/11/2004 9:16 PM

On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 17:46:44 -0500, "Jon Endres, PE"
<[email protected]> calmly ranted:

>You guys who are paying near-retail price for lumber, or even a buck a board
>foot, don't know the meaning.

-snip of mild gloat-

>The best gloat of all is having a house full of kids who want to spend time
>with their Dad in the shop, making 'stuff', and a wife who appreciates the
>effort and encourages my so-called 'hobby'.

OK, Jon. You win the SUCK OF THE YEAR award, bloody braggart.




(Congrats on all of it.)


--
Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life.
---- --Unknown

ON

Old Nick

in reply to "Jon Endres, PE" on 02/11/2004 5:46 PM

03/11/2004 1:40 PM

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 20:21:41 -0500, RKG
<[email protected]> vaguely proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:

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>Jon Endres, PE wrote:
>>
>> The best gloat of all is having a house full of kids who want to spend time
>> with their Dad in the shop, making 'stuff', and a wife who appreciates the
>> effort and encourages my so-called 'hobby'.

Sounds to me like there was more than one "hobby" involved.
*****************************************************
Have you noticed that people always run from what
they _need_ toward what they want?????

Rg

RKG

in reply to "Jon Endres, PE" on 02/11/2004 5:46 PM

02/11/2004 8:21 PM

Jon Endres, PE wrote:
>
> The best gloat of all is having a house full of kids who want to spend time
> with their Dad in the shop, making 'stuff', and a wife who appreciates the
> effort and encourages my so-called 'hobby'.
>
>
>
> JonE
>
>

That last is the one that really counts,

Rick


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