Swingman - Ida Red / Maybelline - Next Time

On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 21:52:49 -0500, Tom Watson <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 10:14:35 -0600, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>"Leon" wrote in message
>>
>>> And all this time I thought Maybelline was done by Little Richard.
>>
>>Chuck Berry was the biggy ... also have a version by Elvis on the Louisiana
>>Hayride, August 20th, 1955. I heard it on KWKH, and becoming 12 years old
>>three days later, immediately started planning to run away, hitchhike to
>>Shreveport, and at least see, if not join, that circus. ;)
>
>
>I trolled your ass with this because of Ida Red, which was done by the
>Texas Playboys and Bob Wills, and is the fundament for Berry's
>Maybelline.
>
>I was actually serious about you guys doing Ida Red and Maybelline
>back to back.
>
>I think it would sound cool.
>
>
>Tom Watson - WoodDorker
>tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (email)
>http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/ (website)


And I also think that you guys could kick ass on what I consider to be
one of the most perfectly plaintive fiddle tunes: Jay Ungar's,
"Ashokan Farewell".

You guys are so good that I might consider flying to see you, even it
it wasn't a bidness trip.

Other Wreckers, especially those who are in the Huston area might
consider a pilgrimage to hear The Wild river Band, as they are a treat
for the ears.


Tom Watson - WoodDorker
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"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Leon" wrote in message
>
>> And all this time I thought Maybelline was done by Little Richard.
>
> Chuck Berry was the biggy ... also have a version by Elvis on the
> Louisiana
> Hayride, August 20th, 1955. I heard it on KWKH, and becoming 12 years old
> three days later, immediately started planning to run away, hitchhike to
> Shreveport, and at least see, if not join, that circus. ;)

Hey, I was thinking about you earlier this afternoon... ;~)
I had black stain all over my hands. LOL Water based and it came right off
of my hands with Orange Lightning and water.

On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 22:11:55 -0600, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:


>
>You're right about that. Besides the orignal, Bob Wills had another version
>called "Ida Red Likes to Boogie", which he recorded on the MGM "Boot Heel
>Drag" album. I am pretty sure that Herb played on it because he _wrote_
>"Boot Heel Drag" <g>, which was the flip side of "Faded Love" when it first
>came out, and he was with the band at the time.
>
>I'll ask him this weekend if he wants to do it again. I'm sure one of the
>singers knows "Maybelline" ... it could very well happen, with you now
>getting co-producer credits on the cuts, of course. ;)

Ya know, I really do need to fly to Houston.

I'm sure that we do bidness with someone out there.

Even if'n we don't, I want to hear Mr .Herb play in person.

That man is a tie to a history that most of us won't think about much
until it's gone.

I don't want to be that dumb.

They talk much about Jazz being the true American music but I don't
think that we need to subscribe to the unifocus of the typical
pundits.

Isn't Bluegrass as demonstrative of an American ethic in music?

Isn't the Blues?

In fact, isn't Rock and Roll, of the Big Bopper and Buddy Holly
variety, distinctively American?

Whence then Texas Swing - is it not the progeny of those sophisticated
brothers Gershwin, Porter, Dorsey, both Tom and Jim, the licorice
sticked black framed glassed band leader, Harry James, Guy Lombardo,
Cab Calloway, Master Ellington, Brother Herman, The James', Woodie
(not Nelson), Artie Shaw, Fred Waring (home boy vote), Nelson Riddle -
mixed with the local flavor of what came to be called "Country Music"?

And, when I was a young peach of a man in the late fifties and early
sixties and listened to the rebroadcast of WSM - wasn't I listening to
particularly American music? And wasn't Bob Wills damned near a god?

Mr. Herb is a resource, although I am certain he would not like to be
thought of in that way.

But he is.

And I need to hear him before he decides to stop playing.

For the good of my soul.

So, send me the current calendar.

I need to book a reservation on an airplane.




Tom Watson - WoodDorker
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We used to sing Maybelline around the campfire..
Maybelline...Mabyelline...prettiest town that I've ever seen....

Sorry, Our campfires were a little too mellow for Chuck. BTW nice
website.

Duhhhh, that was Abilene,,,not Maybelline. Got my songs confused. Bob
Gibson Not Chuck Berry.

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 10:03:44 -0600, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:

>"Tom Watson" wrote in message
>
>> <snip>
>> Orange Blossom Special.
>
>I played many a gig with Leon "Pappy" Selph who claimed, to the day he died,
>to have written it. Knowing Pappy to be full of it, but a damn good showman,
>I still think it was probably Chubby Wise, but only the two will ever know
>for sure.
>
>>
>> (Just A Wish List, You Understand)
>>
>> (I really would like to hear both Ida Red and Maybelline on the same
>> disc.)
>
>Jeeez, as if I didn't have enuff to do already. I still ain't finished with
>WRB's latest. Best I can do on the spur of the moment is "put" them on the
>same CD for you. ;)


Oh, No, Swing!

It's much worse than that!

Those were the tunes that I was hoping that The Wild River Band would
do on their next CD. (hee, hee)

I'd sure like to hear the Texas Swing version of Werewolves Of London.

(watson - who thinks that Mr. Herb could get a pretty good "Ahhooooo"
out of that pedal steel)


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"Tom Watson" wrote in message ...

> Even if'n we don't, I want to hear Mr .Herb play in person.
>
> That man is a tie to a history that most of us won't think about much
> until it's gone.

You took the words "tie to a history" right from of my mouth. Herb Remington
is indeed a part of musical history in this country, besides being a prince
of a man. Herb will be 80 next June 9th 2006, and he's as active and plays,
and tours, as well today as he ever did. WRB will be playing the West Texas
Western Swing Festival that week in Snyder, TX and it's a good time to
see/hear some of the old timers and legends from that era all in one place
... you could scratch a lot of itches by making that.

And back on topic, Herb also has a small shop full of tools where he makes
his famous "Remington Steel", steel guitars. He uses ash for most of the
bodies and, although he jobs out routing the bodies these days, he still
does all the fit and finish himself.

> Whence then Texas Swing - is it not the progeny of those sophisticated
> brothers Gershwin, Porter, Dorsey, both Tom and Jim, the licorice
> sticked black framed glassed band leader, Harry James, Guy Lombardo,
> Cab Calloway, Master Ellington, Brother Herman, The James', Woodie
> (not Nelson), Artie Shaw, Fred Waring (home boy vote), Nelson Riddle -
> mixed with the local flavor of what came to be called "Country Music"?

Many of the same musicians, who made the rounds of the big bands during that
era and who played with the above mentioned, played with Bob Wills,
particularly when he was out on the West Coast. With the exception of the
fiddles, the music is the same (listen to Benny Goodman's "Mission to
Moscow" on WRB Vol2, which was a Texas Playboy staple and was also recorded
by Duke Ellington's band, among many).

> I need to book a reservation on an airplane.

We'll pick out a good one and get you down here, Tom. During the Houston
Livestock Show and Rodeo would be a good time. Late February, early March,
or Snyder in June 06 ... start planning.

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"Tom Watson" wrote in message

> <snip>
> Orange Blossom Special.

I played many a gig with Leon "Pappy" Selph who claimed, to the day he died,
to have written it. Knowing Pappy to be full of it, but a damn good showman,
I still think it was probably Chubby Wise, but only the two will ever know
for sure.

>
> (Just A Wish List, You Understand)
>
> (I really would like to hear both Ida Red and Maybelline on the same
> disc.)

Jeeez, as if I didn't have enuff to do already. I still ain't finished with
WRB's latest. Best I can do on the spur of the moment is "put" them on the
same CD for you. ;)

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"rickluce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Duhhhh, that was Abilene,,,not Maybelline. Got my songs confused. Bob
> Gibson Not Chuck Berry.
>

And all this time I thought Maybelline was done by Little Richard.

In article <[email protected]>,
Tom Watson <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Walking To
> Jerusalem (Just Like John).

Ricky RULES!!

On 28 Nov 2005 17:45:12 -0800, "rickluce" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>We used to sing Maybelline around the campfire..
>Maybelline...Mabyelline...prettiest town that I've ever seen....

Nah.

Kinda went like this:


Chuck Berry; Maybelline

MAYBELLINE WHY CAN'T YOU BE TRUE
OH MAYBELLINE
WHY CAN'T YOU BE TRUE
YOU DONE STARTED DOING THE THINGS
YOU USE TO DO

AS I WAS MOTIVATING OVER THE HILL
SAW MAYBELLINE IN A COUP DEVILLE
A CADILLAC ROLLING ON OLD GLEN ROAD
NOTHING OUT RUN MY V-8 FORD
A CADILLAC DOING ABOUT 95
IT WAS BUMPER TO BUMPER SIDE TO SIDE

chorus;
MAYBELLINE
WHY CAN'T YOU BE TRUE
OH MAYBELLINE
WHY CAN'T YOU BE TRUE
YOU DONE STARTED BACK DOING THE THINGS
YOU USE TO DO

A CADILLAC PULLED UP TO 104
BEFORE IT GOT HOT IT WOULD DO NO MORE
IT DONE GOT CLOUDY AND STARTED TO RAIN
I TOOTED MY HORN FOR THE PASSING LANE
A RAIN WATER BLOWING ALL UNDER MY HOOD
I NEW THAT WAS DOING MY MOTOR GOOD

chorus

solo

chorus

THE WATER COOLED DOWN THE HEAT WENT DOWN
BUT UNDER THE HOOD THE HIGHWAY SOUND
CADILLAC SAT LIKE A TOWING LANE
110 A HALF A MILE AHEAD
CADILLAC LOOK LIKE IT WAS STANDING STILL
I CAUGHT MAYBELLINE AT THE TOP OF THE HILL



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"Leon" wrote in message

> And all this time I thought Maybelline was done by Little Richard.

Chuck Berry was the biggy ... also have a version by Elvis on the Louisiana
Hayride, August 20th, 1955. I heard it on KWKH, and becoming 12 years old
three days later, immediately started planning to run away, hitchhike to
Shreveport, and at least see, if not join, that circus. ;)

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On 28 Nov 2005 18:12:08 -0800, "rickluce" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Sorry, Our campfires were a little too mellow for Chuck. BTW nice
>website.


This might be the appropriate place to ask Swing to do, "Walking To
Jerusalem (Just Like John). I'm partial to the Skaggs version but ya
know, it's a religious thing.


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On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 14:31:36 GMT, "Leon" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"rickluce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Duhhhh, that was Abilene,,,not Maybelline. Got my songs confused. Bob
>> Gibson Not Chuck Berry.
>>
>
>And all this time I thought Maybelline was done by Little Richard.
>

... and I thought it was done by Revlon. :-)




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"Tom Watson" wrote in message

> I trolled your ass with this because of Ida Red, which was done by the
> Texas Playboys and Bob Wills, and is the fundament for Berry's
> Maybelline.

> I was actually serious about you guys doing Ida Red and Maybelline
> back to back.

We have played "Ida Red" for years, but have never recorded it. ASATW has a
modern version that would be tough to beat, as does Tom Morrell.

> I think it would sound cool.

You're right about that. Besides the orignal, Bob Wills had another version
called "Ida Red Likes to Boogie", which he recorded on the MGM "Boot Heel
Drag" album. I am pretty sure that Herb played on it because he _wrote_
"Boot Heel Drag" <g>, which was the flip side of "Faded Love" when it first
came out, and he was with the band at the time.

I'll ask him this weekend if he wants to do it again. I'm sure one of the
singers knows "Maybelline" ... it could very well happen, with you now
getting co-producer credits on the cuts, of course. ;)

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On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 10:14:35 -0600, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:

>"Leon" wrote in message
>
>> And all this time I thought Maybelline was done by Little Richard.
>
>Chuck Berry was the biggy ... also have a version by Elvis on the Louisiana
>Hayride, August 20th, 1955. I heard it on KWKH, and becoming 12 years old
>three days later, immediately started planning to run away, hitchhike to
>Shreveport, and at least see, if not join, that circus. ;)


I trolled your ass with this because of Ida Red, which was done by the
Texas Playboys and Bob Wills, and is the fundament for Berry's
Maybelline.

I was actually serious about you guys doing Ida Red and Maybelline
back to back.

I think it would sound cool.


Tom Watson - WoodDorker
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/ (website)

On 11/29/2005 9:31 AM Leon mumbled something about the following:
> "rickluce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Duhhhh, that was Abilene,,,not Maybelline. Got my songs confused. Bob
>>Gibson Not Chuck Berry.
>>
>
>
> And all this time I thought Maybelline was done by Little Richard.

Naw, Maybelline was done by Johnny Rivers.

As I was motivatin' over the hill
I saw Maybelline in a Coupe deVille
Cadillac rollin' on an open road
But nothin' out-run my V8 Ford
Cadillac doin' about ninety-five
Bumper to bumper rollin' side to side

Maybelline, why can't you be true
Oh Maybelline, why can't you be true
You've started back doin' the things you used to do

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