In article <[email protected]>, Gerald Miller
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Cutter for sealing wax? heat the blade over a candle, cut a thin slice
> from the stick and apply to the document and while it is still soft,
> imprint it with the owners mark.
I'm thinking it's some sort of harness-maker's tool, but that's a WAG.
--
"The thing about saying the wrong words is that A, I don't notice it, and B,
sometimes orange water gibbon bucket and plastic." -- Mr. Burrows
#314 is a curta pocket calculator. Designed by a guy while he was in a
Nazi concentration camp. the ny times magazine did an article on them
about a year ago. Pretty awesome stuff.
-Justin
R.H. wrote:
> Please reply to this thread and ignore the other one, I forgot to add
all
> the groups in my first attempt.
>
> Just posted some new photos:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
Five of the objects have been correctly identified so far:
308. Brass stair/square gauges
309. This one was marked "body iron", as several replies have stated
it's for body work on cars, I'm still trying to find one like it on the
web.
310. Pencil sharpener
311. Cobbler's/leatherworker's punch
312. There is more overhang in this stack of wood than you could
normally get, though with nothing to compare it to I guess it's hard to
tell. I'd like to change the question here to: What design feature was
used to maximize the horizontal overhang?
313. No correct answers yet, it wasn't made for cutting but was used
circa 1890 for another purpose. Thanks to Bill for submitting this
one.
314. Curta Mechanical Calculator, thanks to Mark for sending in this
photo, and also for the surveyor's double prism optical square, from
last week's set.
Rob
>312 One could overhang any amount, given enough blocks (1/2 + 1/3 +
1/4 + 1/5... is infinite)
On paper this is true, but in real life it doesn't seem like anyone
could get the top piece offset by more than two or three lengths.
According to "Omni Games", "for three lengths you would need 227
pieces", and that's probably calculated using the exact fractions.
When actually stacking them, it works better to pull the pieces back
about an 1/8 of an inch, otherwise the structure becomes unstable very
easily. According to the same book, for a ten length offset you would
need 1.5 x 10^44 pieces!
I've searched the web looking for sites that show people stacking wood
to get the most overhang, but all I could find were a couple math
related sites with no pictures. Anyone know of a web page that has
photos of folks stacking things in this fashion? Seems like it would
be a good classroom or scouting activity.
Rob
>311.
>Fitting tool for "Lift the Dot" fasteners (hood covers on British
sportscars)
>I've seen and used these things many times, but only with home-made
tools. I've never seen the "original" tool in the wild.
The guy I bought it from had it in a box of full of old cobbler's tools
but I'm sure that this one was also used for other purposes than making
shoes.
Rob
>The boards are not rectangles.
>They are triangles with the base to the left and the points to the
right.
Correct, the pieces aren't triangles but you've got the right idea,
they are wider on the back end and thinner on the front.
There is a photo of the stack from a different angle here:
http://pzphotosan58.blogspot.com/
I also posted a link to the site where I got the idea for this project.
Rob
On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 09:54:13 -0600, "B.B."
<[email protected]> wrote:
>311. Japanese tool for coring squids.
Thankyou ! It now has a name 8-)
Wick cleaner for a flat wick oil lamp?
Art
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>Well, since we've reached the WAG stage on this one, I suggest
that it might be a tongue cleaner
It's for cleaning something, but not tongues.
Rob
This site will tell you EVERYTHING you need to know about
your Curta, even how to take it apart and fix it.
http://www.vcalc.net/cu.htm
Art
"Mark Shaw" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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In rec.puzzles Carl G. <[email protected]> wrote:
> 314 Curta mechanical calculator. See:
> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/1404/curtaman.html#strt
THANK YOU.
The Curta is mine. I have a tutorial pamphlet, but it assumes
you already know the basics of how to use the thing. This is
the first time I've seen a manual.
Now I can learn how to use it. Woo-hoo!
--
Mark Shaw moc TOD liamg TA wahsnm
========================================================================
"The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new
discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny....'" - Isaac Asimov
"R.H." wrote:
>
> Please reply to this thread and ignore the other one, I forgot to add all
> the groups in my first attempt.
>
> Just posted some new photos:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob
308. Gauge add-ons that clamp onto a framing square for laying out stair
stringers and similar.
309. Body dolly used with a hammer for shaping sheet metal, particularly
on cars.
310. Perspective is screwy, possibly a cutter for making tapered wooden
pegs or for sizing a dowel.
311. Torture device and/or drilling guide of some sort.
312. As noted previously, the C.G. of each piece is over the piece
below.
313. Looks like a small hacksaw, perhaps specialized for cutting a
particular type of material. The blade appears too wide for it to be a
coping saw.
314. Not sure, looks expensive.
Pete C.
308 Stair Guides
309 Dolly - Metalworking
310 Pencil Sharpener
311 Leather Punch?
312 Its laying on its side
313 Bone Saw?
314 Mechanical Calculator
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R.H. wrote:
> Please reply to this thread and ignore the other one, I forgot to add all
> the groups in my first attempt.
>
> Just posted some new photos:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
>
I think 311 is a hollow punch for cutting washers from leather- the
teeth would give reference marks for the larger punch so that the hole
was centered in the washer.
John
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:23:58 GMT, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>Please reply to this thread and ignore the other one, I forgot to add all
>the groups in my first attempt.
>
>Just posted some new photos:
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
>Rob
>
310 appears to be the operative bit of a pencil sharpener.
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:23:58 GMT, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>Just posted some new photos:
311.
Fitting tool for "Lift the Dot" fasteners (hood covers on British sportscars)
I've seen and used these things many times, but only with home-made tools. I've never seen the "original" tool in the
wild.
On 30 Mar 2005 15:34:11 -0800, "Justin" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>#314 is a curta pocket calculator. Designed by a guy while he was in a
>Nazi concentration camp. the ny times magazine did an article on them
>about a year ago. Pretty awesome stuff.
>
>-Justin
>R.H. wrote:
>> Please reply to this thread and ignore the other one, I forgot to add
>all
>> the groups in my first attempt.
>>
>> Just posted some new photos:
>>
>> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
311 is a grommet punch for sewn grommets in canvas (?).
307 is an adjustable trammel point.
All the best,
--
Kenneth
If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."
Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Gerald Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Cutter for sealing wax? heat the blade over a candle, cut a
>> thin slice from the stick and apply to the document and
>> while it is still soft, imprint it with the owners mark.
>
> I'm thinking it's some sort of harness-maker's tool, but
> that's a WAG.
Well, since we've reached the WAG stage on this one, I suggest
that it might be a tongue cleaner. d-:
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/solar.html
In article <[email protected]>,
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>Please reply to this thread and ignore the other one, I forgot to add all
>the groups in my first attempt.
>
>Just posted some new photos:
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
>Rob
308. Thumbscrews for interrogating geckos.
309. Cattle IUD.
310. Business end of electric circumciser machine.
311. Japanese tool for coring squids.
312. Move gravity slightly to the left.
313. That isn't even a little funny.
314. Red tape dispenser.
Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking.
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http://web2.airmail.net/thegoat4/
#308 stair dogs. clamp to a carpenters square for consistent layout . Use
'em quite a bit to layout stairs, rafters, etc. The rest, I dunno --dave
"Mark and Kim Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> R.H. wrote:
>
>>Please reply to this thread and ignore the other one, I forgot to add all
>>the groups in my first attempt.
>>
>>Just posted some new photos:
>>
>>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>Rob
>>
>>
>>
>
> From Rec.woodworking
>
> #308: ??
> #309: Automotive body dolly
> #310: Pencil sharpener
> #311: Special hole punch, maybe for button snaps?
> #312: The weights of the lower pieces keep them in place. The top piece
> only has to be supported by the piece below it.
> #313: Spark plug file?
> #314: Dunno.
"Gerald Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 1 Apr 2005 06:38:23 -0800, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >The overall size of #313 is 3-1/4" and the "blade" (just a very thin
> >piece of blued steel with no teeth) is 1-1/2" long. Probably not much
> >use for this one today, though over 100 years ago it served a useful
> >purpose.
> >
> >
> >Rob
> Cutter for sealing wax? heat the blade over a candle, cut a thin slice
> from the stick and apply to the document and while it is still soft,
> imprint it with the owners mark.
> Gerry :-)}
> London, Canada
Or maybe for trimming up used candles?
Rhiannon
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Please reply to this thread and ignore the other one, I forgot to add all
> the groups in my first attempt.
>
> Just posted some new photos:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
>
308 Clamp on stops.
309 Draftsman spline weight (duck, whale, knot)
310 Inside view of a pencil sharpener
311 Gasket punch
312 One could overhang any amount, given enough blocks (1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4 +
1/5... is infinite)
313 Perhaps a saw, file, or gapping tool, but have no guess for its exact
purpose.
314 Curta mechanical calculator. See:
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/1404/curtaman.html#strt
R.H. wrote:
> Please reply to this thread and ignore the other one, I forgot to add all
> the groups in my first attempt.
>
> Just posted some new photos:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
>
308. Stops for use on a framing square to cut rafters. Well polished.
309. Dolly for body or sheetmetal work.
310. Inside view of a hand pencil sharpener
311. Hole punch
312. Anti-gravity
313. Fret saw
314. This one's pretty easy to cheat on, so I'll pass.
--
Gary Brady
Austin, TX
www.powdercoatoven.4t.com
In article <[email protected]>,
R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>312. There is more overhang in this stack of wood than you could
>normally get, though with nothing to compare it to I guess it's hard to
>tell. I'd like to change the question here to: What design feature was
>used to maximize the horizontal overhang?
Weights hidden in the blocks?
>313. No correct answers yet, it wasn't made for cutting but was used
>circa 1890 for another purpose. Thanks to Bill for submitting this
>one.
Horseshoe remover?
--
There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can
result in a fully-depreciated one.
On 1 Apr 2005 06:38:23 -0800, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>The overall size of #313 is 3-1/4" and the "blade" (just a very thin
>piece of blued steel with no teeth) is 1-1/2" long. Probably not much
>use for this one today, though over 100 years ago it served a useful
>purpose.
>
>
>Rob
Cutter for sealing wax? heat the blade over a candle, cut a thin slice
from the stick and apply to the document and while it is still soft,
imprint it with the owners mark.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada
R.H. wrote:
>Please reply to this thread and ignore the other one, I forgot to add all
>the groups in my first attempt.
>
>Just posted some new photos:
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
>Rob
>
>
>
>
From Rec.woodworking
#308: ??
#309: Automotive body dolly
#310: Pencil sharpener
#311: Special hole punch, maybe for button snaps?
#312: The weights of the lower pieces keep them in place. The top piece
only has to be supported by the piece below it.
#313: Spark plug file?
#314: Dunno.
Ayup! Came to me after I posted.
Dave Jackson wrote:
>#308 stair dogs. clamp to a carpenters square for consistent layout . Use
>'em quite a bit to layout stairs, rafters, etc. The rest, I dunno --dave
>
>"Mark and Kim Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>
>>R.H. wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Please reply to this thread and ignore the other one, I forgot to add all
>>>the groups in my first attempt.
>>>
>>>Just posted some new photos:
>>>
>>>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>Rob
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>From Rec.woodworking
>>
>>#308: ??
>>#309: Automotive body dolly
>>#310: Pencil sharpener
>>#311: Special hole punch, maybe for button snaps?
>>#312: The weights of the lower pieces keep them in place. The top piece
>>only has to be supported by the piece below it.
>>#313: Spark plug file?
>>#314: Dunno.
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
In article <[email protected]>,
R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>Please reply to this thread and ignore the other one, I forgot to add all
>the groups in my first attempt.
>
>Just posted some new photos:
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking:
308) Fasten onto a square to allow repeatable layout of stair steps into the
support beam.
309) Bodywork "dolly" used to back up sheet metal as it is "dinged"
(hammered) to straighten out the results of an accident.
310) Pencil sharpener as seen by the about-to-be-sharpened pencil.
Looks like one of the nicer ones with a bronze body. But not
one of the nicest ones, which have an adjustable point stop to
select how sharp a point you will produce.
311) Punch -- and it looks like the kind used to prepare a mounting
point for a snap fastener of the kind used on tonneau covers and
hoods (folding tops) for convertibles. It produces a hole in
the cloth to clear the pin that the snap fits over, and the snap
mechanism, and punches four slits in the cloth to accept tongues
from the outer portion of the snap to pass through slots in the
other half prior to being bent over to lock it in place.
312) The curve formed by the pieces allows more wood on the left
to counterbalance the greater extension to the right of the few
pieces. There may be magnets or velcro to aid, but I don't
think that it would be necessary with this stacking pattern.
313) Saw -- probably metal cutting (based on the tooth pitch) for
use in close quarters.
314) ***** B * I * N * G * O *****
I *want* that. I've wanted one since I first read about them.
It is a Curta mechanical calculator -- a wonderful example of
mechanical engineering and miniaturization. It adds, subtracts,
multiplies and divides many-digit numbers. With some tricks, it
even will do square roots. That is a *major* collector's item.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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In article <[email protected]>,
R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>There are a number of them for sale on ebay right now, the cheapest one
>is at just less than $500 dollars.
I presume this refers to my comment about the Curtas (since you
didn't quote any of the article at all, and I just followed the thread
back).
Wanting one, and being willing to take $500 away from machine
tool or photo or computer purchases is a different thing. :-)
Enjoy,
DoN.
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In rec.puzzles Carl G. <[email protected]> wrote:
> 314 Curta mechanical calculator. See:
> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/1404/curtaman.html#strt
THANK YOU.
The Curta is mine. I have a tutorial pamphlet, but it assumes
you already know the basics of how to use the thing. This is
the first time I've seen a manual.
Now I can learn how to use it. Woo-hoo!
--
Mark Shaw moc TOD liamg TA wahsnm
========================================================================
"The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new
discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny....'" - Isaac Asimov
> 314) ***** B * I * N * G * O *****
> I *want* that. I've wanted one since I first read about them.
> It is a Curta mechanical calculator -- a wonderful example of
> mechanical engineering and miniaturization. It adds, subtracts,
> multiplies and divides many-digit numbers. With some tricks, it
> even will do square roots. That is a *major* collector's item.
>
> Enjoy,
> DoN.
You and me both!
They get some coverage in this site...
http://www.hpmuseum.org/hpmuseum.html
Erik
In article <[email protected]>,
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
308 - pair of markers for a framing square. Handy for laying out stairs,
rafter angle cuts, etc.
309 - Auto body dolly?
311 - Leather punch for openings for grommets?
One more possibility.
The boards are not rectangles.
They are triangles with the base to the left and the
points to the right.
Art
"Wood Butcher" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
312. Assuming no glue, some sort of fastner was used ...
The center of gravity of all the boards above the top
right corner of any individual board is to the left of that
point.
Also plausible:
An interlocking joint was used.
It is a trick photo and the table is not level, the right side
is higher than the left. Or the camera is looking down
on the stack.
There is airflow from the right which provides pressure
to hold the stack up.
Art
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
<snip>
312. There is more overhang in this stack of wood than you could
normally get, though with nothing to compare it to I guess it's hard to
tell. I'd like to change the question here to: What design feature was
used to maximize the horizontal overhang?
Here goes nothin',
308. Don't know official name, but they are placed on a framing square to
layout stair treads.
309. A dolly for metal working. It resembles my heel dolly, but with more
rounded corners.
310. Don't know what this one is, looks like the material is brass, no size
given.
311. Looks like a leather (or gasket) punch with extra "spikes", possibly
for a fastener, maybe a snap?
312. The way the pieces are aligned makes it hard to tell the size of the
pieces, that is probably intentional. My only guess is that the pieces get
smaller as they go up.
313. Miniature hacksaw, very handy.
314. Haven't a clue, although based on recent posts I might hazard a guess
that it is photographic in nature.
Jim
R.H. wrote:
> Please reply to this thread and ignore the other one, I forgot to add all
> the groups in my first attempt.
>
> Just posted some new photos:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
>
314: Curta Calculator. Made in Lichenstein. This is the smaller of the
two sizes which were popular with "Time Speed Distance" sports car
rallyists (like SWMBO and me) in the pre-electronic calculator days. I
still have mine in the closet. It has a hole in the bottom plate because
I built an motor driven cranker for it so that each time a speedometer
cable driven microswitch clicked off a hundreth of a mile the Curta got
cranked one turn and added in a preset minutes/mph factor to a running
total. Varying the car's speed to keep that total matched to a stopwatch
kept us right where we should be in time.
312: the mathemetician's answer would be that it represents the infinite
series 1/2, 1/4, 1/8 etc.
Jeff
--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
"As long as there are final exams, there will be prayer in public
schools"
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:23:58 GMT, "R.H." <[email protected]>
scribbled:
>Please reply to this thread and ignore the other one, I forgot to add all
>the groups in my first attempt.
>
>Just posted some new photos:
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
From rec.woodworking
#308 Square gauges - used to put a setting on a carpenter's square
(e.g. when laying out stair stringers). Lee Valley has something
similar:
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=41714&cat=1,42936,42944&ap=1
The ones I own are like the ones in the picture (octagonal)
#309 dolly for bodywork?
#311 leather washer punch?
#312 principle of the corbelled arch. Gravity & mass.
Luigi
Replace "nonet" with "yukonomics" for real email address
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www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/antifaq.html
Cleaning the slot in a gas lamp?
Art
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>Wick cleaner for a flat wick oil lamp?
Very close, it's for cleaning lamps, but not wick oil types.
Rob
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>312. There is more overhang in this stack of wood than you could
>normally get, though with nothing to compare it to I guess it's hard to
>tell. I'd like to change the question here to: What design feature was
>used to maximize the horizontal overhang?
Velcro? It's what I'd use.
--
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Hey ob,
Can we have a little better "size" description for # 313. I first
took your description to be an overall measurement, but looking more
closely I see no "teeth" in what is apparently the blade, so my
thought is that is just the blade that is 3-1/4". True?
Take care.
Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
On 31 Mar 2005 15:27:26 -0800, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>Five of the objects have been correctly identified so far:
>
>
>308. Brass stair/square gauges
>
>309. This one was marked "body iron", as several replies have stated
>it's for body work on cars, I'm still trying to find one like it on the
>web.
>
>310. Pencil sharpener
>
>311. Cobbler's/leatherworker's punch
>
>312. There is more overhang in this stack of wood than you could
>normally get, though with nothing to compare it to I guess it's hard to
>tell. I'd like to change the question here to: What design feature was
>used to maximize the horizontal overhang?
>
>313. No correct answers yet, it wasn't made for cutting but was used
>circa 1890 for another purpose. Thanks to Bill for submitting this
>one.
>
>314. Curta Mechanical Calculator, thanks to Mark for sending in this
>photo, and also for the surveyor's double prism optical square, from
>last week's set.
>
>
>
>Rob
In article <[email protected]>,
R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>Please reply to this thread and ignore the other one, I forgot to add all
>the groups in my first attempt.
>
>Just posted some new photos:
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
308: Decorative hanger.
309: Doorstop
311: Tool for removing a flange without crushing pipe?
312: There's no mystery; the C.G. of each piece (plus that of those
above it) is above a solid part of the structure below.
313: Coping saw
314: Mechanical calculator.
--
There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can
result in a fully-depreciated one.
312. Assuming no glue, some sort of fastner was used ...
The center of gravity of all the boards above the top
right corner of any individual board is to the left of that
point.
Also plausible:
An interlocking joint was used.
It is a trick photo and the table is not level, the right side
is higher than the left. Or the camera is looking down
on the stack.
There is airflow from the right which provides pressure
to hold the stack up.
Art
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
<snip>
312. There is more overhang in this stack of wood than you could
normally get, though with nothing to compare it to I guess it's hard to
tell. I'd like to change the question here to: What design feature was
used to maximize the horizontal overhang?
On 2-Apr-2005, [email protected] wrote:
> Nope, it's something that was used around the house.
Cheese cutter?
Mike