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20/02/2005 8:01 AM

Best way of ripping small wood

I have two blocks of hardwood (Padauk and Wenge), which I want to
slice into 1/4" strips. The blocks are 1 7/8" x 1 7/8 x 18".

Does anyone have any hints on how to (safely) cut these such that I
minimize snipe, and get consistantly thick pieces? I'm particularily
concerned with the last cut.

I have a RAS saw at home, but I know of someone with a bandsaw and
planer I could borrow.

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

John


This topic has 14 replies

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Silvan

in reply to [email protected] (julvr) on 20/02/2005 8:01 AM

20/02/2005 2:25 PM

Bob G. wrote:

>>I have two blocks of hardwood (Padauk and Wenge), which I want to
>>slice into 1/4" strips. The blocks are 1 7/8" x 1 7/8 x 18".

> This would be a very simple 3-4 minute job on a good tablesaw using a
> push stick...absolutely not a saftey issue

Oh. I misread this. I thought he said they were 1 1/8" long for some
reason, so I was going to suggest that he get himself the table saw that
comes with Wooddorker Barbie. It also comes with Lorena Bobbet Barbie.

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Glen

in reply to [email protected] (julvr) on 20/02/2005 8:01 AM

21/02/2005 11:50 AM

Swingman wrote:


>
> Your best/safest bet is to "slice" them on your friend's bandsaw, then use
> his planer, with a simple sled if necessary, to thickness the pieces.
>
> Use a sharp blade, on a well set up bandsaw, and be sure to resaw/"slice"
> them a wee bit oversize.
>
If I may add to your excellent advice, I use a piece of MDF as my sled
and hold the thin pieces in place with double sided carpet tape. I also
use some scrap thin pieces surrounding the good thin pieces so that
there is no snipe on my good pieces.

Glen

ss

"speedbuggy"

in reply to [email protected] (julvr) on 20/02/2005 8:01 AM

21/02/2005 2:54 AM

I just got a "Gripper" and it works great for ripping narrow and smaal
stock.
http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=4393


"julvr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I have two blocks of hardwood (Padauk and Wenge), which I want to
> slice into 1/4" strips. The blocks are 1 7/8" x 1 7/8 x 18".
>
> Does anyone have any hints on how to (safely) cut these such that I
> minimize snipe, and get consistantly thick pieces? I'm particularily
> concerned with the last cut.
>
> I have a RAS saw at home, but I know of someone with a bandsaw and
> planer I could borrow.
>
> Any advice is greatly appreciated.
>
> John
>

Cc

"CW"

in reply to [email protected] (julvr) on 20/02/2005 8:01 AM

20/02/2005 9:31 AM

I have done 1/8" stock on my Delta planer with no problems.

"Phisherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> Not sure what you're thinking about
> the planer, but 1/4" thick stock is a bit thing for a planer. You
> could use double-sided carpet tape to hold the 1/4" thin stock to a
> base that has been surface planed. If you use 6" longer 1/4" thick
> strips along each side you'll eliminate the snipe. Use a putty knife
> (and patience) to pry the 1/4" stock from the base.

SS

"Sweet Sawdust"

in reply to [email protected] (julvr) on 20/02/2005 8:01 AM

20/02/2005 9:21 AM

You can do this on a RAS by using a sled to hold the wood and placing the
saw in "rip" mode. Down side to this is that making the sled is a project
within it's self and you will lose almost half of the wood you are cutting
due to saw kerf. Unless you are cutting a lot of these strips (a few
hundred) go to the band saw.
"julvr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have two blocks of hardwood (Padauk and Wenge), which I want to
> slice into 1/4" strips. The blocks are 1 7/8" x 1 7/8 x 18".
>
> Does anyone have any hints on how to (safely) cut these such that I
> minimize snipe, and get consistantly thick pieces? I'm particularily
> concerned with the last cut.
>
> I have a RAS saw at home, but I know of someone with a bandsaw and
> planer I could borrow.
>
> Any advice is greatly appreciated.
>
> John
>

Br

Ba r r y

in reply to [email protected] (julvr) on 20/02/2005 8:01 AM

21/02/2005 12:43 PM

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 11:35:07 -0500, Bob G.
<[email protected]> wrote:


>This would be a very simple 3-4 minute job on a good tablesaw using a
>push stick...absolutely not a saftey issue

Or one of these:
<http://www.bburke.com/wood/images/narrowstripripper2.jpg>

Barry

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to [email protected] (julvr) on 20/02/2005 8:01 AM

20/02/2005 2:22 PM

On 20 Feb 2005 08:01:25 -0500,
[email protected] (julvr) wrote:

>I have two blocks of hardwood (Padauk and Wenge), which I want to
>slice into 1/4" strips. The blocks are 1 7/8" x 1 7/8 x 18".
>
>Does anyone have any hints on how to (safely) cut these such that I
>minimize snipe, and get consistantly thick pieces? I'm particularily
>concerned with the last cut.
>
>I have a RAS saw at home, but I know of someone with a bandsaw and
>planer I could borrow.
>
>Any advice is greatly appreciated.
>
>John

Probably a better word is "resawing" although this can be called
ripping because you are sawing with the grain. A band saw with a
widest blade is the best tool. Not sure what you're thinking about
the planer, but 1/4" thick stock is a bit thing for a planer. You
could use double-sided carpet tape to hold the 1/4" thin stock to a
base that has been surface planed. If you use 6" longer 1/4" thick
strips along each side you'll eliminate the snipe. Use a putty knife
(and patience) to pry the 1/4" stock from the base.

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to [email protected] (julvr) on 20/02/2005 8:01 AM

20/02/2005 7:15 AM


"julvr" wrote in message
> I have two blocks of hardwood (Padauk and Wenge), which I want to
> slice into 1/4" strips. The blocks are 1 7/8" x 1 7/8 x 18".
>
> Does anyone have any hints on how to (safely) cut these such that I
> minimize snipe, and get consistantly thick pieces? I'm particularily
> concerned with the last cut.
>
> I have a RAS saw at home, but I know of someone with a bandsaw and
> planer I could borrow.

Your best/safest bet is to "slice" them on your friend's bandsaw, then use
his planer, with a simple sled if necessary, to thickness the pieces.

Use a sharp blade, on a well set up bandsaw, and be sure to resaw/"slice"
them a wee bit oversize.

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LZ

"Luigi Zanasi"

in reply to [email protected] (julvr) on 20/02/2005 8:01 AM

21/02/2005 10:44 PM

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 11:50:02 +0000, Glen wrote:
> If I may add to your excellent advice, I use a piece of MDF as my sled
> and hold the thin pieces in place with double sided carpet tape. I also
> use some scrap thin pieces surrounding the good thin pieces so that
> there is no snipe on my good pieces.

In a similar vein, I used a 4' long piece of MDO plywood for the sled. I
carpet-taped two strips slightly thicker than the small bits of wood along
the edges of the sled. No snipe that way. However, I found it hard to get
a precise thickness as the rollers "squeezed" the carpet tape different
amounts.

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BG

Bob G.

in reply to [email protected] (julvr) on 20/02/2005 8:01 AM

20/02/2005 11:35 AM

On 20 Feb 2005 08:01:25 -0500,
[email protected] (julvr) wrote:

>I have two blocks of hardwood (Padauk and Wenge), which I want to
>slice into 1/4" strips. The blocks are 1 7/8" x 1 7/8 x 18".
>
>Does anyone have any hints on how to (safely) cut these such that I
>minimize snipe, and get consistantly thick pieces? I'm particularily
>concerned with the last cut.
>
>I have a RAS saw at home, but I know of someone with a bandsaw and
>planer I could borrow.
>
>Any advice is greatly appreciated.
>
>John
=============================
This would be a very simple 3-4 minute job on a good tablesaw using a
push stick...absolutely not a saftey issue

But in your case I would use your friends bandsaw... works almost as
well as the cut will not be as smooth as with a tablesaw with a good
blade...

Bob Griffiths

BG

Bob G.

in reply to [email protected] (julvr) on 20/02/2005 8:01 AM

21/02/2005 12:27 PM

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 12:43:16 GMT, Ba r r y
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 11:35:07 -0500, Bob G.
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>This would be a very simple 3-4 minute job on a good tablesaw using a
>>push stick...absolutely not a saftey issue
>
>Or one of these:
><http://www.bburke.com/wood/images/narrowstripripper2.jpg>
>
>Barry
==========================
Barry.....
That is almost an exact picture of what any of my push sticks look
like when taken from the bottom...

Even looks like you replace the Shoe as much as I do...

Bob Griffiths

lL

[email protected] (Lawrence Wasserman)

in reply to [email protected] (julvr) on 20/02/2005 8:01 AM

22/02/2005 4:20 PM

I've never worked with wenge or padauk, but I routinely cut 1/4"
strips on a tablesaw without trouble just using the fence. There are
various jigs that can make it easier, faster and perhaps safer for
high production run of thinner strips. See any good table saw book
like DeCristoferos (Spelling?) or Mehler's for examples.


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LH

Lew Hodgett

in reply to [email protected] (julvr) on 20/02/2005 8:01 AM

20/02/2005 6:46 PM

julvr wrote:
> I have two blocks of hardwood (Padauk and Wenge), which I want to
> slice into 1/4" strips. The blocks are 1 7/8" x 1 7/8 x 18".
>
> Does anyone have any hints on how to (safely) cut these such that I
> minimize snipe, and get consistantly thick pieces? I'm particularily
> concerned with the last cut.
>
> I have a RAS saw at home, but I know of someone with a bandsaw and
> planer I could borrow.

If you have access to a decent table saw, this job can be safely done,
assuming the saw has a decent fence and you have a couple of feather boards.

I've ripped a couple of miles of 24 ft long strips using this procedure.

Split the pieces in half using a fence, feather boards (top & side) and
a push stick.

Reset the fence and split the pieces in half again.

This will yield 4 pieces that are approximately 3/8" thick.

A couple of passes thru the planer and you have 1/4" finished stock.

Don't have a planer?

Reset the fence and make a final pass with the saw set to 1/4"; however,
you run the risk of leaving some burn marks on the pieces.

CAUTION:

Under no circumstances do you want to attempt the above without using
feather boards to hold the piece against the fence and down on the table.

HTH

Lew

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to [email protected] (julvr) on 20/02/2005 8:01 AM

20/02/2005 3:44 PM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (julvr) wrote:
>I have two blocks of hardwood (Padauk and Wenge), which I want to
>slice into 1/4" strips. The blocks are 1 7/8" x 1 7/8 x 18".
>
>Does anyone have any hints on how to (safely) cut these such that I
>minimize snipe, and get consistantly thick pieces? I'm particularily
>concerned with the last cut.
>
>I have a RAS saw at home, but I know of someone with a bandsaw and
>planer I could borrow.

Bandsaw, definitely. Use push sticks too.

Of course, the bandsaw cuts will need to be cleaned up, too. Here's the
sequence I'd follow for that, having access to a bandsaw and a planer:

1) Run each block through the planer to ensure smooth, parallel faces and
consistent thickness.

2) Rip one 5/16" strip from each block (you need the extra thickness so you
can smooth it after you're done, and have 1/4" finished thickness).

3) Repeat steps 1 and 2 until you run out of wood. Planing after *every* pass
through the bandsaw ensures that each strip you cut has one face that's planed
smooth, which is used as the reference face for the final step:

4) Plane each strip to 1/4" finished thickness. Although opinions differ, IMO
1/4" is *not* too thin to plane successfully with a power planer. At least it
works for me.

With access to a jointer as well, I'd joint two adjacent faces on each block,
too, before beginning -- call that "Step 0".

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And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?


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