Heads Up: Stanley has introduced four new planes using the old SW logo, including
a smoother, two blocks and a low-angle jack. They look interesting, if a bit pricey;
it's not clear from the pictures I've seen, but they look like an improved bedrock style.
Could find no information on Stanley's web site, but one of the big mail-order vendors
(with a local store presence) is selling them.
scott
On Jul 15, 6:42=A0pm, [email protected] (Scott Lurndal) wrote:
> Heads Up: =A0 Stanley has introduced four new planes using the old SW log=
o, including
> a smoother, two blocks and a low-angle jack. =A0 =A0They look interesting=
, if a bit pricey;
> it's not clear from the pictures I've seen, but they look like an improve=
d bedrock style.
>
> Could find no information on Stanley's web site, but one of the big mail-=
order vendors
> (with a local store presence) is selling them.
Stanley...? Starting to make quality tools again...?
Is this a troll? ;)
R
On 16 Jul 2009 01:31:00 GMT, [email protected] (Scott Lurndal) wrote:
>>If they're being made in a new factory they may be OK. The last UK Stanley
>>I bought showed every evidence that the tooling on which it was made was
>>just plain worn out.
>>
>>On the other hand if they shipped the worn out tooling from the UK then I
>>don't expect much.
>
>I'm not sure what tooling you're referring to, the body is cast then milled,
>and CNC milling machines are pretty common.
>
>Regardless, these (from the pictures on woodcraft) look a lot more like L-N
>than old stanleys, which would imply new "tooling".
>
I thought the 62 looks like the old 62, which looks a lot like the excellent 62-1/2 being sold by
Lee Valley, just smaller. Stanley hasn't made a 62 since 1942, so I imagine it is new tooling for at
least this plane.
The 9-1/2 and 60-1/2 look like the current production, apparently with an upgraded blade. Not a lot
of info available at the Woodcraft site. Since these planes have adjustable mouths, dropping in a
thicker blade is a snap. Considering how small the frogs are on these planes compared to old (as in
around 1900) production, a wider blade is a very good idea.
The #4 doesn't resemble the Bedrock (or the LN bench plane either) other than both have totes and
knobs. The cap iron, lateral adjuster and frog are completely different. The mechanism used in
the new #4 is very similar to that used on the 62.
Regards,
Roy
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> writes:
>Artemus wrote:
>> Woodcraft is carrying them.
>> http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=21287
>> Art
>
>If they're being made in a new factory they may be OK. The last UK Stanley
>I bought showed every evidence that the tooling on which it was made was
>just plain worn out.
>
>On the other hand if they shipped the worn out tooling from the UK then I
>don't expect much.
I'm not sure what tooling you're referring to, the body is cast then milled,
and CNC milling machines are pretty common.
Regardless, these (from the pictures on woodcraft) look a lot more like L-N
than old stanleys, which would imply new "tooling".
scott
On Jul 15, 7:24=A0pm, Roy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I thought the 62 looks like the old 62, which looks a lot like the excell=
ent 62-1/2 being sold by
> Lee Valley, just smaller. [snip]
Very interesting. Who knew Stanley would wake up one day and
recognize there was money to be made in the "gentleman woodworker,"
tool market. I wonder if this is a custom shop that's licensed
Stanley's name.
O'Deen
Just say For now I'll stick with my crispy type-11 #6 (fore plane,
Jeff), equipped with a Hock A-2 blade
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:10:36 GMT, "Artemus" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Woodcraft is carrying them.
>http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=21287
>Art
>
>
I look forward to seeing one of these kits. I'd like to see Stanley making some excellent hardware
again. I have had several of their planes, but kept little that is post WW-II. I like the original
Sweetheart planes, and hope these are as good. If they are, that may reduce the demand (and price)
for user grade originals, which will make bottom feeders like me extremely happy.
My low angle block plane is a pre-1907 #65 that looks like it has been through the war - chipped
cap, chipped body, came pre=rusted so I didn't have to, and overall amazingly ugly. The sole was
flat so it was only a couple hours effort to de-rust it, free up the mouth, flatten the blade and
scary sharpen it. It's a joy to use, and was bottom-feeder cheap. er, I mean frugal..
Yours in fine fettle,
Roy
On 15 Jul 2009 22:42:05 GMT, [email protected] (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:
>Heads Up: Stanley has introduced four new planes using the old SW logo, including
>a smoother, two blocks and a low-angle jack. They look interesting, if a bit pricey;
>it's not clear from the pictures I've seen, but they look like an improved bedrock style.
>
>Could find no information on Stanley's web site, but one of the big mail-order vendors
>(with a local store presence) is selling them.
>
>scott
Shazamm!
If'n Satanly is makin' Sweetheats again, somebody done got to warn
Paddy and Patrick.
Regards,
Tom Watson
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/
RicodJour wrote:
> On Jul 15, 6:42 pm, [email protected] (Scott Lurndal) wrote:
>> Heads Up: Stanley has introduced four new planes using the old SW logo, including
>> a smoother, two blocks and a low-angle jack. They look interesting, if a bit pricey;
>> it's not clear from the pictures I've seen, but they look like an improved bedrock style.
>>
>> Could find no information on Stanley's web site, but one of the big mail-order vendors
>> (with a local store presence) is selling them.
>
> Stanley...? Starting to make quality tools again...?
>
Donno about planes, but Stanley makes chisels, screwdrivers, hammers,
handsaws and other stuff labeled "BIG MAX" that are pretty durn good.
On Jul 16, 10:23=A0pm, Roy <[email protected]> wrote:
> Does the Hock blade really make a big difference? =A0I have not upgraded =
because I'm reluctant to open
> up the mouth to accommodate the thicker blade, and there is no going back=
. =A0Perhaps I need to get an
> expendable plane to experiment with, say a type-16 =A0#5 (jack plane, Jef=
f). =A0Could always turn it
> into a big scrub plane if it doesn't pan out.
Hmmmm. Mine never needed any modification. (Type-11). I've got the
mouth closed down to a gnat's ass, and it takes shavings so thin and
fluffy, they float up. Also have a Hock carbon steel blade in a
Type-11 #3c and same story.
Best,
O'Deen
Scott Lurndal <[email protected]> wrote:
> Heads Up: Stanley has introduced four new planes using the old SW
> logo, including a smoother, two blocks and a low-angle jack. They look
> interesting, if a bit pricey; it's not clear from the pictures I've
> seen, but they look like an improved bedrock style.
No, these are entirely new animals with new features. Check out this
article Christopher Schwarz has done on them:
http://blog.woodworking-magazine.com/blog/The+New+Stanley+Planes+Have+Arrived.aspx
The new #4 smoother has a Norris style adjuster, a lock down for
the lateral adjustment, and adjustable mouth and the frog is cast
as an integral part of the body.
I've had my hands on the 60-1/2 block and the 62 low angle jack.
While the planes are actually made in Mexico, the quality on them is
much better than what Stanley has been doing in recent years. If you
want to see them up close, go to a Woodcraft store and ask to see them
out of the box.
Artemus wrote:
> Woodcraft is carrying them.
> http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=21287
> Art
If they're being made in a new factory they may be OK. The last UK Stanley
I bought showed every evidence that the tooling on which it was made was
just plain worn out.
On the other hand if they shipped the worn out tooling from the UK then I
don't expect much.
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:59:48 -0600, Just Wondering
<[email protected]> wrote:
>RicodJour wrote:
>> On Jul 15, 6:42 pm, [email protected] (Scott Lurndal) wrote:
>>> Heads Up: Stanley has introduced four new planes using the old SW logo, including
>>> a smoother, two blocks and a low-angle jack. They look interesting, if a bit pricey;
>>> it's not clear from the pictures I've seen, but they look like an improved bedrock style.
>>>
>>> Could find no information on Stanley's web site, but one of the big mail-order vendors
>>> (with a local store presence) is selling them.
>>
>> Stanley...? Starting to make quality tools again...?
>>
>Donno about planes, but Stanley makes chisels, screwdrivers, hammers,
>handsaws and other stuff labeled "BIG MAX" that are pretty durn good.
Make that "FAT MAX". Allright for WalMart tools. ;-)
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:01:13 -0700 (PDT), Odeen <[email protected]> wrote:
>Very interesting. Who knew Stanley would wake up one day and
>recognize there was money to be made in the "gentleman woodworker,"
>tool market. I wonder if this is a custom shop that's licensed
>Stanley's name.
Maybe they'll offer a corrugated sole? I could be tempted if there was not so much good hardware
out there already just waiting to be resurrected. Last week I refurbished three Disston D-20's I
picked up for pocket change. They are still better saws than most others that have been made in
the last 50 or so years.
>O'Deen
>Just say For now I'll stick with my crispy type-11 #6 (fore plane,
>Jeff), equipped with a Hock A-2 blade
Does the Hock blade really make a big difference? I have not upgraded because I'm reluctant to open
up the mouth to accommodate the thicker blade, and there is no going back. Perhaps I need to get an
expendable plane to experiment with, say a type-16 #5 (jack plane, Jeff). Could always turn it
into a big scrub plane if it doesn't pan out.
Regards,
Roy - who is growing more Galootish every day.