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"AArDvarK"

31/07/2004 2:59 PM

New tool idea (possibly)...


I have my own idea that someone might want to make, something like a
router table perfectly square and large. In the center, mounted underneath,
is a zip saw with the blade coming up through... or an electric motor of high
RPM with zip-type blade adapted to it with a very small hole for the blade,
sawdust protection for the top motor openings . Two miter tracks (removable
and edge securable flush infills) in the table crosswise, and edge/externally
mounted single or double fence system (crosswise) so mounting adapter
hardware would not interrupt the table work area.

This tool would replace a table saw and a scroll saw (much more freedom
than...), and a band saw for thinner woods, maybe up to 3" thick depending
on available sizes of zip-type of blades... the motor *could* be a high-end DC
type with variable speed capability (needs a controller and electronic board)
but that would be seriously costly. There are AC motors that get between
3,000 and 4,000 RPM, and belted system with drill press (multi-step) pullies
for multiple speeds would work as well which would require a bearing system
at blade mounting, offset motor and its mounting. I think the table would
have to be a cabinet with walls and doors, maybe even with sound insulation
as high-rpm motors do scream. Cast iron table top.

This tool would be extremely dangerous to *fingers*. What does anyone think
about it? Any *positive* opinions on this idea? Does it already exist?

Alex


This topic has 7 replies

mM

[email protected] (Minorite)

in reply to "AArDvarK" on 31/07/2004 2:59 PM

31/07/2004 10:56 PM

sounds like my pin router with the top arm removed
bob

>
>I have my own idea that someone might want to make, something like a
>router table perfectly square and large. In the center, mounted underneath,
>is a zip saw with the blade coming up through... or an electric motor of high
>RPM with zip-type blade adapted to it with a very small hole for the blade,
>sawdust protection for the top motor openings . Two miter tracks (removable
>and edge securable flush infills) in the table crosswise, and edge/externally
>mounted single or double fence system (crosswise) so mounting adapter
>hardware would not interrupt the table work area.
>
>This tool would replace a table saw and a scroll saw (much more freedom
>than...), and a band saw for thinner woods, maybe up to 3" thick depending
>on available sizes of zip-type of blades... the motor *could* be a high-end
>DC
>type with variable speed capability (needs a controller and electronic board)
>but that would be seriously costly. There are AC motors that get between
>3,000 and 4,000 RPM, and belted system with drill press (multi-step) pullies
>for multiple speeds would work as well which would require a bearing system
>at blade mounting, offset motor and its mounting. I think the table would
>have to be a cabinet with walls and doors, maybe even with sound insulation
>as high-rpm motors do scream. Cast iron table top.
>
>This tool would be extremely dangerous to *fingers*. What does anyone think
>about it? Any *positive* opinions on this idea? Does it already exist?
>
>Alex

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"AArDvarK"

in reply to "AArDvarK" on 31/07/2004 2:59 PM

31/07/2004 4:06 PM


> sounds like my pin router with the top arm removed
> bob

Yeah... with my idea there be no overhead arm. Close to a router table.
Alex

Aa

"AArDvarK"

in reply to "AArDvarK" on 31/07/2004 2:59 PM

31/07/2004 4:28 PM


> What is a zip saw? Is it something like a jigsaw or reciprocating saw?
> Anyway it would take a thick strong blade to replace a table saw.
>

I think I agree on thickness of the blade, unless it was made of platinum.
Roto-zip saws... hand-held for cutting drywall or ply, owned by Bosch
but other companies copy the same idea. Spinning blade like a drill.

Alex

En

Eugene

in reply to "AArDvarK" on 31/07/2004 2:59 PM

31/07/2004 7:13 PM

Minorite wrote:

> sounds like my pin router with the top arm removed
> bob
>
>>
>>I have my own idea that someone might want to make, something like a
>>router table perfectly square and large. In the center, mounted
>>underneath, is a zip saw with the blade coming up through... or an
>>electric motor of high RPM with zip-type blade adapted to it with a very
>>small hole for the blade, sawdust protection for the top motor openings .
>>Two miter tracks (removable and edge securable flush infills) in the table
>>crosswise, and edge/externally mounted single or double fence system
>>(crosswise) so mounting adapter hardware would not interrupt the table
>>work area.
>>
>>This tool would replace a table saw and a scroll saw (much more freedom
>>than...), and a band saw for thinner woods, maybe up to 3" thick depending
>>on available sizes of zip-type of blades... the motor *could* be a
>>high-end DC
>>type with variable speed capability (needs a controller and electronic
>>board) but that would be seriously costly. There are AC motors that get
>>between 3,000 and 4,000 RPM, and belted system with drill press
>>(multi-step) pullies for multiple speeds would work as well which would
>>require a bearing system at blade mounting, offset motor and its mounting.
>>I think the table would have to be a cabinet with walls and doors, maybe
>>even with sound insulation as high-rpm motors do scream. Cast iron table
>>top.
>>
>>This tool would be extremely dangerous to *fingers*. What does anyone
>>think about it? Any *positive* opinions on this idea? Does it already
>>exist?
>>
>>Alex
What is a zip saw? Is it something like a jigsaw or reciprocating saw?
Anyway it would take a thick strong blade to replace a table saw.

En

Eugene

in reply to "AArDvarK" on 31/07/2004 2:59 PM

31/07/2004 7:56 PM

AArDvarK wrote:

>
>> What is a zip saw? Is it something like a jigsaw or reciprocating saw?
>> Anyway it would take a thick strong blade to replace a table saw.
>>
>
> I think I agree on thickness of the blade, unless it was made of platinum.
> Roto-zip saws... hand-held for cutting drywall or ply, owned by Bosch
> but other companies copy the same idea. Spinning blade like a drill.
>
> Alex
Ahh, I've seen the roto-zip. Try cutting wood with a 1/4" spiral upcut bit
in a router, need lots of speed and lots of HP to do it, 1/8" rotozip I
don't think could replace a table saw, you would have to cut real slow and
make multiple passes to rip a board.

tt

"toller"

in reply to "AArDvarK" on 31/07/2004 2:59 PM

31/07/2004 11:35 PM

You are suggesting a router table with a 1/8" collet to take zip saw bits.
I don't use scroll saws much, so I don't know if it would be useful there,
but it would be pretty useless in place of a tablesaw; the feed rate would
be unbearably slow.

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "AArDvarK" on 31/07/2004 2:59 PM

01/08/2004 2:59 AM


"AArDvarK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> I have my own idea that someone might want to make, something like a
> router table perfectly square and large. In the center, mounted
underneath,
> is a zip saw with the blade coming up through... or an electric motor of
high
> RPM with zip-type blade adapted to it with a very small hole for the
blade,
> sawdust protection for the top motor openings .


Sounds like the router table for the Dremel tool. IMO< it would have
limited use and I doubt it would replace a real saw.
Ed


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