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31/10/2005 2:27 PM

device for taking down cuting measurments

Hello: I'm not a particularly good carpenter so excuse what may seem a
dumb post. Basically I have a terrible time with how I take down
cutting measurments. I use scraps of paper, pices of wood, etc. even
resorted to a roll of taping paper on tool belt.

Is there a better way== a handy device out there to record cuts and
info? A wrist pad? I know several makers of tape measures have a
recordable device in them. Not exactly what I'm looking for.

Any tips or sources of simple device appreciated.


This topic has 17 replies

MO

Mike O.

in reply to [email protected] on 31/10/2005 2:27 PM

31/10/2005 11:12 PM

On 31 Oct 2005 14:27:46 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

>dumb post. Basically I have a terrible time with how I take down
>cutting measurments. I use scraps of paper, pices of wood, etc. even
>resorted to a roll of taping paper on tool belt.
>
>Is there a better way== a handy device out there to record cuts and
>info? A wrist pad?

I just use a clipboard with a legal pad on it.
I might use it to layout a cabinet or I might just write down a cut
list of molding measurements. I hang it on the wall near the
tablesaw and have a place to hang it on the chop saw bench.

Mike O.

m

in reply to [email protected] on 31/10/2005 2:27 PM

31/10/2005 5:34 PM


[email protected] wrote:
> Hello: I'm not a particularly good carpenter so excuse what may seem a
> dumb post. Basically I have a terrible time with how I take down
> cutting measurments. I use scraps of paper, pices of wood, etc. even
> resorted to a roll of taping paper on tool belt.
>
> Is there a better way== a handy device out there to record cuts and
> info? A wrist pad? I know several makers of tape measures have a
> recordable device in them. Not exactly what I'm looking for.
>
> Any tips or sources of simple device appreciated.

If you are on a job site and need one dimension for the next cut I
usually write it down on the timber to be cut.

For multiple measurements a small spiral bound notebook is very handy.
Fits in pocket easily and are cheap enough to throw the page away when
done.

In the workshop I have a small 2' x 3' whiteboard for sketching on,
TO_DO lists etc.

You can get strap on pads. Any pilot (aviation) store has them. Not
real good in my opinion if you are climbing around a job site.

JG

"Jeff Gorman"

in reply to [email protected] on 31/10/2005 2:27 PM

01/11/2005 8:06 AM


"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote

> ............................................................. A
> pad of paper works well to draw your cuts out and write the measurements
> on
> the drawing - extremely valuable for complex cuts. And... it just doesn't
> get any simpler than that.

One tradition is to use the back of a piece of glasspaper,. It will be thick
enough to draw on without a backing, heavy enough not to be blown about as
you move your workpiece?

Jeff G

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p

in reply to [email protected] on 31/10/2005 2:27 PM

01/11/2005 1:48 PM

Utility T-square has magnet to hold your cuttng list, and trough for
your writing tool.
See http://www.patwarner.com/t_square.html and
http://www.patwarner.com/setup_square.html for samples.

AW

"A.M. Wood"

in reply to [email protected] on 31/10/2005 2:27 PM

01/11/2005 7:06 PM

"1. A story stick

2. Note pad


3. Both of above "

Add pencil to the list and your set.

ll

loutent

in reply to [email protected] on 31/10/2005 2:27 PM

31/10/2005 8:33 PM

My SWMBO bought me a "recording tape measure"
a couple of years ago for Christmas. I have tried
to use it (really...I have). She chides me for not
using it constantly (whenever I forget a measure).

I think it was a 'Sharper Image' thing IIRC.

Recording an inaccurate measure does not make
it any more accurate.

My advice: use a story stick (if possible). Otherwise,
measure with a good tape and cut 1/8 strong and
then zero in.

Lou

In article <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello: I'm not a particularly good carpenter so excuse what may seem a
> dumb post. Basically I have a terrible time with how I take down
> cutting measurments. I use scraps of paper, pices of wood, etc. even
> resorted to a roll of taping paper on tool belt.
>
> Is there a better way== a handy device out there to record cuts and
> info? A wrist pad? I know several makers of tape measures have a
> recordable device in them. Not exactly what I'm looking for.
>
> Any tips or sources of simple device appreciated.
>

DH

Dave Hinz

in reply to [email protected] on 31/10/2005 2:27 PM

01/11/2005 9:52 PM

On 1 Nov 2005 13:48:25 -0800, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
> Utility T-square has magnet to hold your cuttng list, and trough for
> your writing tool.

This isn't a marketplace group, Pat.

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to [email protected] on 31/10/2005 2:27 PM

31/10/2005 6:30 PM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello: I'm not a particularly good carpenter so excuse what may seem a
> dumb post. Basically I have a terrible time with how I take down
> cutting measurments. I use scraps of paper, pices of wood, etc. even
> resorted to a roll of taping paper on tool belt.
>
> Is there a better way== a handy device out there to record cuts and
> info? A wrist pad? I know several makers of tape measures have a
> recordable device in them. Not exactly what I'm looking for.
>

I can't help but wonder what you found to be unacceptable with a pad of
paper? Anything electronic is useless in my book - for a couple of reasons.
1) it's just too damned cutesy and addresses a problem that doesn't really
exist. 2) it doesn't allow you to associate the numbers with anything. A
pad of paper works well to draw your cuts out and write the measurements on
the drawing - extremely valuable for complex cuts. And... it just doesn't
get any simpler than that.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

JJ

in reply to "Mike Marlow" on 31/10/2005 6:30 PM

01/11/2005 12:42 AM

Mon, Oct 31, 2005, 6:30pm [email protected] (Mike=A0Marlow) who
cannot help but wonder:
I can't help but wonder what you found to be unacceptable with a pad of
paper? <snippity>

Apparently he couldn't find batteries for one. Or something. Of
course, he'd be required to have a pencil along with the pad, and
actually write something down. If I want to get fancy, a sheet of
paper, folded up and stored in my shirt pocket, and a pencil do it for
me, otherwise, usually scraps of wood.

I've got a batch of those el-cheapo pentel types of pencils. I'd
ran out of leads for a few, so looed for refills. Damndest thing, the
cost of a pack of a dozen leads, was more than the cost of a pack of 5
pencils, with 3 leads each. That sounds like something a politician
would think up.

Politician n: Latin for liar - a person who has lied, or lies
repeatedly



JOAT
If it ain't broke, don't lend it.
- Red Green

j

in reply to [email protected] on 31/10/2005 2:27 PM

31/10/2005 9:50 PM

Try one of the plastic SLATES that divers carry to write down
dive information/etc with a pencil. They erase easily and are pretty
much unbreakable. They vary in size from around 4x6 to 8x11, some of
the smaller ones even have multiple waterproof pages for tons of
notes, erase easily. They are made out of something like PVC plastic,
and you can get thin sheets of PVC from McMaster-Carr etc and make up
a boat load of these, give the extras away as gifts to fellow
wookworkers (or divers if you dive)

John

On 31 Oct 2005 17:34:00 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

>
>[email protected] wrote:
>> Hello: I'm not a particularly good carpenter so excuse what may seem a
>> dumb post. Basically I have a terrible time with how I take down
>> cutting measurments. I use scraps of paper, pices of wood, etc. even
>> resorted to a roll of taping paper on tool belt.
>>
>> Is there a better way== a handy device out there to record cuts and
>> info? A wrist pad? I know several makers of tape measures have a
>> recordable device in them. Not exactly what I'm looking for.
>>
>> Any tips or sources of simple device appreciated.
>
>If you are on a job site and need one dimension for the next cut I
>usually write it down on the timber to be cut.
>
>For multiple measurements a small spiral bound notebook is very handy.
>Fits in pocket easily and are cheap enough to throw the page away when
>done.
>
>In the workshop I have a small 2' x 3' whiteboard for sketching on,
>TO_DO lists etc.
>
>You can get strap on pads. Any pilot (aviation) store has them. Not
>real good in my opinion if you are climbing around a job site.

TD

"The Davenport's"

in reply to [email protected] on 31/10/2005 2:27 PM

01/11/2005 8:16 PM

"Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 1 Nov 2005 13:48:25 -0800, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Utility T-square has magnet to hold your cuttng list, and trough for
>> your writing tool.
>
> This isn't a marketplace group, Pat.
>

Considering how rarely Pat does "sell" his site and how often he has some
pretty good ideas and thoughts for us, I'm thinking, let it slide.

Mike

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to [email protected] on 31/10/2005 2:27 PM

01/11/2005 1:23 PM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>Hello: I'm not a particularly good carpenter so excuse what may seem a
>dumb post. Basically I have a terrible time with how I take down
>cutting measurments. I use scraps of paper, pices of wood, etc. even
>resorted to a roll of taping paper on tool belt.
>
>Is there a better way== a handy device out there to record cuts and
>info? A wrist pad? I know several makers of tape measures have a
>recordable device in them. Not exactly what I'm looking for.
>
>Any tips or sources of simple device appreciated.
>
Pad of paper and a pencil works just fine for me. I think you're making this
waaaay more complicated than it needs to be. Try this: always wear a shirt
with a pocket. Keep a small pad of paper, and a mechanical pencil, in that
pocket. You'll always know where they are. They'll always be easy to reach.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

EB

Ed B

in reply to [email protected] on 31/10/2005 2:27 PM

31/10/2005 8:55 PM

loutent wrote:
> My SWMBO bought me a "recording tape measure"
> a couple of years ago for Christmas. I have tried
> to use it (really...I have). She chides me for not
> using it constantly (whenever I forget a measure).
>
> I think it was a 'Sharper Image' thing IIRC.
>
> Recording an inaccurate measure does not make
> it any more accurate.
>
> My advice: use a story stick (if possible). Otherwise,
> measure with a good tape and cut 1/8 strong and
> then zero in.
>
> Lou
>
> In article <[email protected]>,
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Hello: I'm not a particularly good carpenter so excuse what may seem a
>>dumb post. Basically I have a terrible time with how I take down
>>cutting measurments. I use scraps of paper, pices of wood, etc. even
>>resorted to a roll of taping paper on tool belt.
>>
>>Is there a better way== a handy device out there to record cuts and
>>info? A wrist pad? I know several makers of tape measures have a
>>recordable device in them. Not exactly what I'm looking for.
>>
>>Any tips or sources of simple device appreciated.
>>
For me, low to medium adhesion masking tape on the face of my tape
measure works pretty well. It is cheap, crude but effective.

Ed

dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to [email protected] on 31/10/2005 2:27 PM

01/11/2005 1:00 PM

[email protected] wrote:
> Hello: I'm not a particularly good carpenter so excuse what may seem
> a dumb post. Basically I have a terrible time with how I take down
> cutting measurments. I use scraps of paper, pices of wood, etc. even
> resorted to a roll of taping paper on tool belt.
>
> Is there a better way== a handy device out there to record cuts and
> info? A wrist pad? I know several makers of tape measures have a
> recordable device in them. Not exactly what I'm looking for.
>
> Any tips or sources of simple device appreciated.

1. A story stick

2. Note pad

3. Both of above


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Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

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David

in reply to [email protected] on 31/10/2005 2:27 PM

31/10/2005 5:36 PM

loutent wrote:

> My SWMBO bought me a "recording tape measure"
> a couple of years ago for Christmas. I have tried
> to use it (really...I have). She chides me for not
> using it constantly (whenever I forget a measure).
>
> I think it was a 'Sharper Image' thing IIRC.
>
> Recording an inaccurate measure does not make
> it any more accurate.
>
> My advice: use a story stick (if possible). Otherwise,
> measure with a good tape and cut 1/8 strong and
> then zero in.
>
> Lou
>
> In article <[email protected]>,
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Hello: I'm not a particularly good carpenter so excuse what may seem a
>>dumb post. Basically I have a terrible time with how I take down
>>cutting measurments. I use scraps of paper, pices of wood, etc. even
>>resorted to a roll of taping paper on tool belt.
>>
>>Is there a better way== a handy device out there to record cuts and
>>info? A wrist pad? I know several makers of tape measures have a
>>recordable device in them. Not exactly what I'm looking for.
>>
>>Any tips or sources of simple device appreciated.
>>
I was given a digital Starrett (sp?) tape measure as a gift. I use it
all the time. But I NEVER look at the digital reading. :) I like the
tape because it's heavy and stands out a long way. The digital reading
is good to +- 1/16". Not too useful for cabinetmaking.

Dave

nn

"no(SPAM)vasys" <"no(SPAM)vasys"@adelphia.net>

in reply to [email protected] on 31/10/2005 2:27 PM

01/11/2005 12:47 PM

Doug Miller wrote:

>
> Pad of paper and a pencil works just fine for me. I think you're making this
> waaaay more complicated than it needs to be. Try this: always wear a shirt
> with a pocket. Keep a small pad of paper, and a mechanical pencil, in that
> pocket. You'll always know where they are. They'll always be easy to reach.
>

I tried that. The pencil ends up always being at the other end of the
ladder. ;-)

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Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]
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nn

"no(SPAM)vasys" <"no(SPAM)vasys"@adelphia.net>

in reply to [email protected] on 31/10/2005 2:27 PM

31/10/2005 6:10 PM

[email protected] wrote:

> Hello: I'm not a particularly good carpenter so excuse what may seem a
> dumb post. Basically I have a terrible time with how I take down
> cutting measurments. I use scraps of paper, pices of wood, etc. even
> resorted to a roll of taping paper on tool belt.
>
> Is there a better way== a handy device out there to record cuts and
> info? A wrist pad? I know several makers of tape measures have a
> recordable device in them. Not exactly what I'm looking for.
>
> Any tips or sources of simple device appreciated.
>

How about a tape measure with a built in voice recorder?

http://www.zircon.com/SellPages/Measuring/R25/R25.html

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Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]
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