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"RayV"

22/09/2006 11:29 AM

Comments on this tool

I've been nursing a DeWalt 9.6 drill for a while and saw this Hitachi
kit for $150. Not a lot of details on the tools. Anyone have any
experience with these tools or factory reconditioned in general. I
recall a few posts saying factory reconditioned was the way to go for
good deals. I have no experience with Hitachi tools

http://tinyurl.com/hntjv

The link that led me to amazon was this one:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00008QCO8/companynewslette

I may just have to buy that.


This topic has 14 replies

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"boorite"

in reply to "RayV" on 22/09/2006 11:29 AM

22/09/2006 2:03 PM


RayV wrote:
> I've been nursing a DeWalt 9.6 drill for a while and saw this Hitachi
> kit for $150. Not a lot of details on the tools. Anyone have any
> experience with these tools

The Hitachi sneaker-looking tools are so new, I don't think anyone has
much experience with them. One of my WW mags reviewed the plunge router
and made it sound like a real pile, and another said it was OK for the
price. I'd wait for them to work the kinks out on these.

> or factory reconditioned in general. I
> recall a few posts saying factory reconditioned was the way to go for
> good deals.

Yeah, if you can get the warranty, and you don't care about cosmetics
(which I don't).

Aa

"Andy"

in reply to "RayV" on 22/09/2006 11:29 AM

22/09/2006 2:26 PM

> > or factory reconditioned in general.

Sure - I've had very good luck with factory reconditioned power tools
from Amazon, but I'd be a little more cautious about anything with
batteries. If it still has the mfr warranty, it would probably be
safe. On the other hand, it's only about $200 for a new Makita 14.4 or
Panasonic 15.6V cordless drill with NiMH batteries, and I've heard good
things about both of those. If it were up to me, the difference in
price isn't worth the questions on quality or reliability.
Just my opinion,
Andy

Rd

"Robatoy"

in reply to "RayV" on 22/09/2006 11:29 AM

22/09/2006 3:45 PM

How on earth does Hitachi already have an inventory of reconditioned
sneaker-style tools?
They just came out with them?

I smell an 'anti-dumping law workaround' rat.

I do really like their M12V plunge router though.

r

l

in reply to "RayV" on 22/09/2006 11:29 AM

22/09/2006 5:20 PM

I've had a reconditioned set of Rigid from cummingstool.com. Couldn't
be happier. I stopped buying Makita about a year ago after getting a
brand new 14.4 with plastic gears.
Lou

RN

"RayV"

in reply to "RayV" on 22/09/2006 11:29 AM

23/09/2006 9:08 AM


Toller wrote:
> "RayV" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I've been nursing a DeWalt 9.6 drill for a while and saw this Hitachi
> > kit for $150.
>
> It looks like a decent price and people seem to like their Hitachi routers.
> I have several reconditioned tools and have never had a problem.
>
> You should decide what you want the tools for first though. I have both 12v
> and 18v DeWalts and like the 12v more. They are lighter and are powerful
> enough 95% of the time. I guess I am suggesting you go with lighter tools
> unless you need the power.
> Oh, and I use my cordless reciprocating saw about once a year; but perhaps
> you need one more than I do...

I've never said, "you know, I could really use a cordless reciprocating
saw now", or a cordless circular saw either (there was that one time I
was cutting a 16' 2x10 in half in the Borg parking lot). However, I
never needed a cordless drill either until I inherited the 9.6V DW.
Now I don't go or do anything without it unless it requires my hammer
drill.

I have rarely come across something that needed more than 9.6V except
maybe battery time. The only time I switched to a drill with a tail
was when I needed to screw down the boards on a 12x25 deck and I doubt
even the big bad 18V drills could handle that. I also hang my drill on
my belt quite often so I am not really looking to upgrade to one of
those monsters.

Maybe I should just get a new 9.6DW for $80 and put the $70 towards
that drill press...

md

mac davis

in reply to "RayV" on 22/09/2006 11:29 AM

23/09/2006 11:26 AM

On 23 Sep 2006 09:08:45 -0700, "RayV" <[email protected]> wrote:


>I have rarely come across something that needed more than 9.6V except
>maybe battery time. The only time I switched to a drill with a tail
>was when I needed to screw down the boards on a 12x25 deck and I doubt
>even the big bad 18V drills could handle that. I also hang my drill on
>my belt quite often so I am not really looking to upgrade to one of
>those monsters.
>
>Maybe I should just get a new 9.6DW for $80 and put the $70 towards
>that drill press...

I have 2 of the Craftsman 19.2v drills... great drivers with a lot of torque but
I consider them bench tools... wouldn't want to hang them on a belt or do a lot
of over head work with 'em..

What they're good at is the grunt work like driving or removing lag bolts or
replacing fence pickets when the screws have had time to get stubborn..

I also take one on RV trips to raise and lower the stabilizing jacks.... takes
less time to do 4 jacks with the drill and a 3/4" socket than it takes to do
one by hand..

NOTE: If using a high-torque driver like these, USE THE CLUTCH...
I left one on the "drill" setting, which is no clutch, when I was driving a 5"
lag bolt and damn near broke my wrist when the going got tough.....
Mac

https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis
https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to "RayV" on 22/09/2006 11:29 AM

22/09/2006 11:44 PM

In article <[email protected]>, "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote:
>How on earth does Hitachi already have an inventory of reconditioned
>sneaker-style tools?
>They just came out with them?

Returns from the big-box stores?

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to "RayV" on 22/09/2006 11:29 AM

23/09/2006 12:21 AM

On 22 Sep 2006 14:03:29 -0700, "boorite" <[email protected]> wrote:

>The Hitachi sneaker-looking tools are so new, I don't think anyone has
>much experience with them. One of my WW mags reviewed the plunge router
>and made it sound like a real pile, and another said it was OK for the
>price. I'd wait for them to work the kinks out on these.

It seems that the "new" M12 is not as good as the old version.

TT

"Toller"

in reply to "RayV" on 22/09/2006 11:29 AM

23/09/2006 4:28 AM


"RayV" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've been nursing a DeWalt 9.6 drill for a while and saw this Hitachi
> kit for $150.

It looks like a decent price and people seem to like their Hitachi routers.
I have several reconditioned tools and have never had a problem.

You should decide what you want the tools for first though. I have both 12v
and 18v DeWalts and like the 12v more. They are lighter and are powerful
enough 95% of the time. I guess I am suggesting you go with lighter tools
unless you need the power.
Oh, and I use my cordless reciprocating saw about once a year; but perhaps
you need one more than I do...

md

mac davis

in reply to "RayV" on 22/09/2006 11:29 AM

23/09/2006 11:16 AM

On 22 Sep 2006 11:29:39 -0700, "RayV" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I've been nursing a DeWalt 9.6 drill for a while and saw this Hitachi
>kit for $150. Not a lot of details on the tools. Anyone have any
>experience with these tools or factory reconditioned in general. I
>recall a few posts saying factory reconditioned was the way to go for
>good deals. I have no experience with Hitachi tools
>
>http://tinyurl.com/hntjv
>
>The link that led me to amazon was this one:
>
>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00008QCO8/companynewslette
>
>I may just have to buy that.

I've had very good luck with reconditioned tools... most are ok anyway, but have
been opened and returned..

I may be wrong, but my gut feeling is that reconditioned tools get a bit more
quality control on the way out the door because they KNOW that they had a
problem, and the tools coming off the line are more "assumed ok".. YMWV

My main problem in this area is where sellers hide the fact that they're
reconditioned...
Mac

https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis
https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm

Cc

"CW"

in reply to "RayV" on 22/09/2006 11:29 AM

23/09/2006 12:02 AM

They've been around for at least a year.

"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >How on earth does Hitachi already have an inventory of reconditioned
> >sneaker-style tools?
> >They just came out with them?
>
> Returns from the big-box stores?
>
> --
> Regards,
> Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
>
> It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to "RayV" on 22/09/2006 11:29 AM

23/09/2006 12:25 AM

On 22 Sep 2006 14:26:48 -0700, "Andy" <[email protected]> wrote:

>> > or factory reconditioned in general.
>
>Sure - I've had very good luck with factory reconditioned power tools
>from Amazon, but I'd be a little more cautious about anything with
>batteries.

Additionally, do your pricing homework.

My favorite reconditioned dealer sells PC690's for 40% off, the miter
saw I bought for 50% off, but a $200 DeWalt cordless drill is only $10
off!

I have a local "Black and Decker / DeWalt Repair Center Store" that
sells reconditioned DeWalt for more than Coastal Tools sells the same
stuff, brand new, for less, only 8 miles away.

I like reconditioned tools, but the savings needs to be significant.

Cc

"CW"

in reply to "RayV" on 22/09/2006 11:29 AM

23/09/2006 12:36 AM

That would seem to be the case from the reviews I have read. They still sell
the old one.

"B A R R Y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 22 Sep 2006 14:03:29 -0700, "boorite" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >The Hitachi sneaker-looking tools are so new, I don't think anyone has
> >much experience with them. One of my WW mags reviewed the plunge router
> >and made it sound like a real pile, and another said it was OK for the
> >price. I'd wait for them to work the kinks out on these.
>
> It seems that the "new" M12 is not as good as the old version.
>

JN

"Jim Northey"

in reply to "RayV" on 22/09/2006 11:29 AM

22/09/2006 10:54 PM


"RayV" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've been nursing a DeWalt 9.6 drill for a while and saw this Hitachi
> kit for $150. Not a lot of details on the tools. Anyone have any
> experience with these tools or factory reconditioned in general. I
> recall a few posts saying factory reconditioned was the way to go for
> good deals. I have no experience with Hitachi tools
>
> http://tinyurl.com/hntjv
>
> The link that led me to amazon was this one:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00008QCO8/companynewslette
>
> I may just have to buy that.
>

I've got two Hitachi 14 V drills at work right now . One old style one new
funky style , both see use every day. No problems so far but they are only 6
to 8 months old. They have the power I need for what I'm do with them .One
did drill all the pilot holes (12) and (8 or 9) of the 3/8" holes in a 10" I
beam before I had to change batteries. They get the most use doing parts
take off and reinstall on small diesel engines. If that's any help to you.
Jim


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