"dpb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Max wrote:
>> Is this sander a random orbit or strictly an orbital sander?
>> I can see where an *orbital* sander would be more aggressive than an ROS.
>>
>> Max (still pondering)
>
> Depends... :)
>
> There are two "125" models/ the EQ is ROS; the FEQ is the dual-mode (but
> almost $400 for the privilege, however)
Actually he was asking about the "Rotex" 125, there is only one of those and
then there is the bigger Rotex 150.
>
> <http://www.mcfeelys.com/icatalog/master/z/54#VIEW>
>
> It's the latter that is the one that's supposed to be so aggressive altho
> I've not seen one in action.
It can be very agressive or not.
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Max" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Is this sander a random orbit or strictly an orbital sander?
>> I can see where an *orbital* sander would be more aggressive than an ROS.
>>
>> Max (still pondering)
>
>
> It is BOTH!
>
> In the more agressive orbital mode it "will" keep up with a belt sander
> with same grit paper. Additionally it sets flat and is easy to controll
> compared to the typical orbital sander. Flip a switch and it converts to
> random orbit.
>
> With a vac connected the paper lasts longer and does not clog as easily.
>
> http://www.festoolusa.com/media/pdf/understanding%20the%20two%20modes%20of%20the%20rotex%20dual%20mode%20sander.pdf
>
> I have had one for about 2 years now and consider it a bargain considering
> the fact that it is a multi-function sander and leaves little to no dust
> when attached to a vac and or my Festool vac.
Excellent, Leon. Now I can see why it would do the job of a belt sander. I
thought the 125 (or 150) was just a fancy ROS.
I'm sold.
Thanks.
Max
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote
> Your welcome Max... FIY I replaced a 5" PC right angle ROS that I used for
> about 18 years with the 125 Rotex, 5" also.
> I have never wanted or wondered waht I would be missing using the larger
> 150, 6" Rotex.
> Plus, the 125 is considerabley less expensice than the 150 as are the
> sanding disks.
Are the Festool sanding discs the only ones you can use?
Max
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> "Max" wrote
>> Are the Festool sanding discs the only ones you can use?
>>
>> Max
>
>
> I believe that there are other brands out there that will "work". BUT
> Swingman and I installed a kitchen last simmer in one of the homes that he
> built and I did the sanding of the cabinets afterwards. I believe on the
> entire set of cabinets face frames I used 3, 120, 150, and 180 disks on
> the Rotex. That is about 9 disks total. I gave it all another final
> finish sanding with 180 with the RTS400EQ orbital sander. That sander
> has a smaller pad and gets into "square" corners. I think I used 1 may be
> 2 sheets on that pass.
>
> Basically what I am saying here is that the Festool paper is pretty high
> quality and lasts a long time when used with a vac. I do not consider it
> expensive considering the fact that I have not yet purchased a replacement
> box of paper for any of the original grits that I purchased for either
> sander. However I am getting ready to purchase some more in the near
> future.
>
> Up to the 180 grit I use the Rubin style Festool paper.
>
> I have completely sanded 2 sets of kitchen cabinets, my bed room project,
> and numerous smaller projects with my original 50 pack boxes of sand
> paper.
I hear you. It would likely be poor economics to use a quality sander and
then skimp on the paper.
Thanks again.
Max
"Max" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote
>
>> Your welcome Max... FIY I replaced a 5" PC right angle ROS that I used
>> for about 18 years with the 125 Rotex, 5" also.
>> I have never wanted or wondered waht I would be missing using the larger
>> 150, 6" Rotex.
>> Plus, the 125 is considerabley less expensice than the 150 as are the
>> sanding disks.
>
> Are the Festool sanding discs the only ones you can use?
>
> Max
I believe that there are other brands out there that will "work". BUT
Swingman and I installed a kitchen last simmer in one of the homes that he
built and I did the sanding of the cabinets afterwards. I believe on the
entire set of cabinets face frames I used 3, 120, 150, and 180 disks on the
Rotex. That is about 9 disks total. I gave it all another final finish
sanding with 180 with the RTS400EQ orbital sander. That sander has a
smaller pad and gets into "square" corners. I think I used 1 may be 2
sheets on that pass.
Basically what I am saying here is that the Festool paper is pretty high
quality and lasts a long time when used with a vac. I do not consider it
expensive considering the fact that I have not yet purchased a replacement
box of paper for any of the original grits that I purchased for either
sander. However I am getting ready to purchase some more in the near
future.
Up to the 180 grit I use the Rubin style Festool paper.
I have completely sanded 2 sets of kitchen cabinets, my bed room project,
and numerous smaller projects with my original 50 pack boxes of sand paper.
"Max" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Max" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Is this sander a random orbit or strictly an orbital sander?
>>> I can see where an *orbital* sander would be more aggressive than an
>>> ROS.
>>>
>>> Max (still pondering)
>>
>>
>> It is BOTH!
>>
>> In the more agressive orbital mode it "will" keep up with a belt sander
>> with same grit paper. Additionally it sets flat and is easy to controll
>> compared to the typical orbital sander. Flip a switch and it converts to
>> random orbit.
>>
>> With a vac connected the paper lasts longer and does not clog as easily.
>>
>> http://www.festoolusa.com/media/pdf/understanding%20the%20two%20modes%20of%20the%20rotex%20dual%20mode%20sander.pdf
>>
>> I have had one for about 2 years now and consider it a bargain
>> considering the fact that it is a multi-function sander and leaves little
>> to no dust when attached to a vac and or my Festool vac.
>
> Excellent, Leon. Now I can see why it would do the job of a belt sander.
> I thought the 125 (or 150) was just a fancy ROS.
> I'm sold.
> Thanks.
>
> Max
Your welcome Max... FIY I replaced a 5" PC right angle ROS that I used for
about 18 years with the 125 Rotex, 5" also.
I have never wanted or wondered waht I would be missing using the larger
150, 6" Rotex.
Plus, the 125 is considerabley less expensice than the 150 as are the
sanding disks.
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 4/16/2010 1:17 PM, dpb wrote:
>
>> Anyway, didn't figure could possibly hurt to point it out.
>
> Hell, I own one, still get confused, and have to look at which one it is
> ... ;)
>
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> Last update: 4/15/2010
> KarlC@ (the obvious)
Nice drive-by, Swing.
jc
"Max" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote
>>
>> "Max" wrote
>>> Are the Festool sanding discs the only ones you can use?
>>>
>>> Max
>>
>>
>> I believe that there are other brands out there that will "work". BUT
>> Swingman and I installed a kitchen last simmer in one of the homes that
>> he built and I did the sanding of the cabinets afterwards. I believe on
>> the entire set of cabinets face frames I used 3, 120, 150, and 180 disks
>> on the Rotex. That is about 9 disks total. I gave it all another final
>> finish sanding with 180 with the RTS400EQ orbital sander. That sander
>> has a smaller pad and gets into "square" corners. I think I used 1 may
>> be 2 sheets on that pass.
>>
>> Basically what I am saying here is that the Festool paper is pretty high
>> quality and lasts a long time when used with a vac. I do not consider it
>> expensive considering the fact that I have not yet purchased a
>> replacement box of paper for any of the original grits that I purchased
>> for either sander. However I am getting ready to purchase some more in
>> the near future.
>>
>> Up to the 180 grit I use the Rubin style Festool paper.
>>
>> I have completely sanded 2 sets of kitchen cabinets, my bed room project,
>> and numerous smaller projects with my original 50 pack boxes of sand
>> paper.
>
> I hear you. It would likely be poor economics to use a quality sander and
> then skimp on the paper.
> Thanks again.
>
> Max
For many years I have always said that being "brand loyal" is not the
consumers best bet for getting the best value but this Festool stuff is the
closest I have ever been to brand loyal. Like you I am getting ready to
pull the trigger on a Festool tracksaw, that will be my 5th Festool tool
with a tail.
I have not yet been disappointed with any Festool products although I
seriously doubt I will ever give their jig saw or other sanders a place in
my shop, I believe that I am already set in those categories. Heaven help
me if Festool ever comes out with a step up from a cabinet TS. ;~) The
Kapex is really really cool but I already have a 12" Delta CMS that I hardly
use after getting a cabinet saw about 10 years ago. The Festool tracksaw
will probably be the final nail in the coffin for the miter saw for "on
location" jobs. My jointer is on it's way out too. ;~)
Max wrote:
> Is this sander a random orbit or strictly an orbital sander?
> I can see where an *orbital* sander would be more aggressive than an ROS.
>
> Max (still pondering)
Depends... :)
There are two "125" models/ the EQ is ROS; the FEQ is the dual-mode (but
almost $400 for the privilege, however)
<http://www.mcfeelys.com/icatalog/master/z/54#VIEW>
It's the latter that is the one that's supposed to be so aggressive
altho I've not seen one in action.
--
Leon wrote:
> "dpb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Max wrote:
>>> Is this sander a random orbit or strictly an orbital sander?
>>> I can see where an *orbital* sander would be more aggressive than an ROS.
>>>
>>> Max (still pondering)
>> Depends... :)
>>
>> There are two "125" models/ the EQ is ROS; the FEQ is the dual-mode (but
>> almost $400 for the privilege, however)
>
> Actually he was asking about the "Rotex" 125, there is only one of those and
> then there is the bigger Rotex 150.
...
Well, since he asked, it wasn't clear to me that there wasn't confusion;
hence the specifics of pointing it out since Festool has the two w/ the
125...when there isn't anywhere close if one hasn't been to a Rockler or
somewhere and seen stuff it isn't all that easy to confuse imo...I
wouldn't have known it if hadn't wondered what was the big $$$
difference between the two when wondering thru a Rockler outlet w/
Festool display last time in Wichita some months back.
Anyway, didn't figure could possibly hurt to point it out.
--
"Max" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Is this sander a random orbit or strictly an orbital sander?
> I can see where an *orbital* sander would be more aggressive than an ROS.
>
> Max (still pondering)
It is BOTH!
In the more agressive orbital mode it "will" keep up with a belt sander with
same grit paper. Additionally it sets flat and is easy to controll compared
to the typical orbital sander. Flip a switch and it converts to random
orbit.
With a vac connected the paper lasts longer and does not clog as easily.
http://www.festoolusa.com/media/pdf/understanding%20the%20two%20modes%20of%20the%20rotex%20dual%20mode%20sander.pdf
I have had one for about 2 years now and consider it a bargain considering
the fact that it is a multi-function sander and leaves little to no dust
when attached to a vac and or my Festool vac.