Ti

"TweedleDee"

16/06/2005 3:16 PM

Building codes / roof angle

We are building a roofed deck off the side of our manufactured home.
We are at the stage where we are beginning to frame the roof. It's
ending up to be 10 feet long with a 6 inch drop. Will that meet code
do you think? I live in Portland, Oregon area with very little snow.
Roof will be shingled. Thanks for any insight you can give.

Alan


This topic has 18 replies

Ti

"TweedleDee"

in reply to "TweedleDee" on 16/06/2005 3:16 PM

16/06/2005 3:56 PM

Building inspector is unavailable :(

Ti

"TweedleDee"

in reply to "TweedleDee" on 16/06/2005 3:16 PM

16/06/2005 3:57 PM

Anywhere on the internet I can find specific building code information
like that? How does one go about finding that kind of information
without having to ask an inspector each time?

rh

"robo hippy"

in reply to "TweedleDee" on 16/06/2005 3:16 PM

16/06/2005 4:49 PM

TweedleDee,
Well, from my years of doing concrete work, city sidewalks here in
Eugene, had to slope 1/4 inch to the foot for drainage. You have that
covered. As far as snow load, I don't know. 2x4 @ 16 on center would
handle most snow loads, except maybe one like the snow of 69 (3 feet
here in Eugene) Major concern would be on the support posts and how
they are cross braced to prevent racking.
robo hippy

tt

"tom"

in reply to "TweedleDee" on 16/06/2005 3:16 PM

16/06/2005 5:01 PM

Alan wrote: We are building a roofed deck off the side of our
manufactured home.
We are at the stage where we are beginning to frame the roof. It's
ending up to be 10 feet long with a 6 inch drop. Will that meet code
do you think? I live in Portland, Oregon area with very little snow.
Roof will be shingled. Thanks for any insight you can give.


You might check out the instructions on a bundle of the shingles your
thinking of using, as to their minimum recommended pitch. I'm betting
the least pitch they'd want you to use them on would be around 2" in
12". You're at 3/4" in 15". Can you use another type of material? There
are some peel & sticks available, pretty darn cheap, and work well if
kept coated. Tom

PT

"P.H. Thorsted"

in reply to "TweedleDee" on 16/06/2005 3:16 PM

16/06/2005 10:28 PM

On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:16:31 -0700, TweedleDee wrote:

> We are building a roofed deck off the side of our manufactured home.
> We are at the stage where we are beginning to frame the roof. It's
> ending up to be 10 feet long with a 6 inch drop. Will that meet code
> do you think? I live in Portland, Oregon area with very little snow.
> Roof will be shingled. Thanks for any insight you can give.
>
> Alan

As has been said, this is almost a flat roof. You can look into a product
all 'Mule Hide'. This roofing material is made for flat or nearly flat
roofs. It has a 20 year guarentee. I have this on the roof of my house and
like it. Much better than a tar and gravel roof.

n

in reply to "TweedleDee" on 16/06/2005 3:16 PM

16/06/2005 9:32 PM

We always use a membrane system, but we use modified bitumen, a.k.a.
SBS. It is sold as roll goods, (NOT roll roofing) and comes in about 5
colors from different manufacturers. If you know what you are doing,
you can put this stuff down cold and not have any problems. We put it
on 0 slope roofs all the time in cold adhesive as our city is frowning
more and more (as are our clients) on our noisy, smokey, sulphur
belching kettle.

But if you are forced to use shingles by a deed restriction or city
code, then there is a way. Cover the whole roof area in self
adhering/self healing ice and water shield over 15# tin capped felt.
Then nail your shingles on. The shingles are cosmetically more
pleasing and are UV resistant. The ice and water is uglier, and has no
UV resistance (unless the half lap kind), but it will "heal" around the
nail holes.

Do yourself a favor and have someone with experience do the tie in to
the existing roof. I sure make a lot of money fixing those...

Robert

SI

"Slowhand"

in reply to "TweedleDee" on 16/06/2005 3:16 PM

17/06/2005 8:28 AM


"tom" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Alan wrote: We are building a roofed deck off the side of our
> manufactured home.
> We are at the stage where we are beginning to frame the roof. It's
> ending up to be 10 feet long with a 6 inch drop. Will that meet code
> do you think? I live in Portland, Oregon area with very little snow.
> Roof will be shingled. Thanks for any insight you can give.

Yes, it will meet code. But, you have limited options on what you can use
for roofing material. This is a perfect application for either a modified
bitumen, metal, fiberglass, poly corrugated. It will fall out of code if
you use any shingle product whether it be wood, slate, composition, etc.
SH - Building contractor from the north oregon coastal area.

bR

[email protected] (Robert Bonomi)

in reply to "TweedleDee" on 16/06/2005 3:16 PM

18/06/2005 12:00 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
TweedleDee <[email protected]> wrote:
>We are building a roofed deck off the side of our manufactured home.
>We are at the stage where we are beginning to frame the roof. It's
>ending up to be 10 feet long with a 6 inch drop. Will that meet code
>do you think? I live in Portland, Oregon area with very little snow.
>Roof will be shingled. Thanks for any insight you can give.

_Shingled_ roof needs a *LOT* more slope than that.

roll roofing is indicated.

"code" requirements are anybody's guess. Copys of relevant code are
available from city hall -- for a fee; or they can tell you where to
procure the 'national standard' on which their ordinances are based.

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to "TweedleDee" on 16/06/2005 3:16 PM

16/06/2005 4:21 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
TweedleDee <[email protected]> wrote:

> Will that meet code do you think?

What does your building code say?

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Dave Balderstone

in reply to "TweedleDee" on 16/06/2005 3:16 PM

16/06/2005 5:17 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
TweedleDee <[email protected]> wrote:

> Anywhere on the internet I can find specific building code information
> like that? How does one go about finding that kind of information
> without having to ask an inspector each time?

A Google search turned this up in about 0.5 seconds...

<http://www.portlandonline.com/bds/index.cfm?c=30556>

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g

in reply to "TweedleDee" on 16/06/2005 3:16 PM

16/06/2005 8:10 PM

On 16 Jun 2005 15:16:31 -0700, "TweedleDee"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>We are building a roofed deck off the side of our manufactured home.
>We are at the stage where we are beginning to frame the roof. It's
>ending up to be 10 feet long with a 6 inch drop. Will that meet code
>do you think? I live in Portland, Oregon area with very little snow.
>Roof will be shingled. Thanks for any insight you can give.
>
>Alan

That is basically a flat roof. Shingles won't work. You will need to
use a membrane system, of some sort.
Typically that was built up, hot mopped, roll roofing with gravel on
it.
These days there may be a more modern method.

Bb

Bruce

in reply to "TweedleDee" on 16/06/2005 3:16 PM

16/06/2005 4:47 PM

On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:22:00 -0600, J wrote
(in article <[email protected]>):
Some municipalities post codes for porches on-line. Do a search.

I looked at one for San Diego as a reference and it specified 1/4" per foot
of pitch minimum.

-Bruce

> Ask your local building official.
> My short answer is that a roof like that could catch a lot of fish.
>
> -j
>
>
> "TweedleDee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> We are building a roofed deck off the side of our manufactured home.
>> We are at the stage where we are beginning to frame the roof. It's
>> ending up to be 10 feet long with a 6 inch drop. Will that meet code
>> do you think? I live in Portland, Oregon area with very little snow.
>> Roof will be shingled. Thanks for any insight you can give.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>
>

Gg

"George"

in reply to "TweedleDee" on 16/06/2005 3:16 PM

17/06/2005 6:33 AM


"George E. Cawthon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> TweedleDee wrote:
> > We are building a roofed deck off the side of our manufactured home.
> > We are at the stage where we are beginning to frame the roof. It's
> > ending up to be 10 feet long with a 6 inch drop. Will that meet code
> > do you think? I live in Portland, Oregon area with very little snow.
> > Roof will be shingled. Thanks for any insight you can give.
> >
> > Alan
> >
>
> Is this a troll? 6" in 10 feet with a shingled
> roof? Regardless of the code, it does rain in
> Portland, and the shingles won't be happy. Just
> look at a bundle and see what the minimum drop is.

Metal.

Nw

"NorthIdahoWWer"

in reply to "TweedleDee" on 16/06/2005 3:16 PM

17/06/2005 11:52 AM

You probably should have checked with your local officials to see if you
needed to get a building permit before you started. I just built a deck in
Coeur d'Alene Idaho without a roof and still had to get a permit.

"TweedleDee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> We are building a roofed deck off the side of our manufactured home.
> We are at the stage where we are beginning to frame the roof. It's
> ending up to be 10 feet long with a 6 inch drop. Will that meet code
> do you think? I live in Portland, Oregon area with very little snow.
> Roof will be shingled. Thanks for any insight you can give.
>
> Alan
>

WC

"Walt Cheever"

in reply to "TweedleDee" on 16/06/2005 3:16 PM

17/06/2005 12:49 PM

If you are shingling the roof, you need to have 3" of drop for each foot of
run, or the water will not run from shingle to shingle.

If you have to have that small a slope, about 1/2" per foot of run, you can
cover the roof with glued down rubber roofing, and you have a working roof.

Snow load isn't the problem, waterproof is.

Walt C


"TweedleDee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> We are building a roofed deck off the side of our manufactured home.
> We are at the stage where we are beginning to frame the roof. It's
> ending up to be 10 feet long with a 6 inch drop. Will that meet code
> do you think? I live in Portland, Oregon area with very little snow.
> Roof will be shingled. Thanks for any insight you can give.
>
> Alan
>

GE

"George E. Cawthon"

in reply to "TweedleDee" on 16/06/2005 3:16 PM

17/06/2005 6:13 AM

TweedleDee wrote:
> We are building a roofed deck off the side of our manufactured home.
> We are at the stage where we are beginning to frame the roof. It's
> ending up to be 10 feet long with a 6 inch drop. Will that meet code
> do you think? I live in Portland, Oregon area with very little snow.
> Roof will be shingled. Thanks for any insight you can give.
>
> Alan
>

Is this a troll? 6" in 10 feet with a shingled
roof? Regardless of the code, it does rain in
Portland, and the shingles won't be happy. Just
look at a bundle and see what the minimum drop is.

Jm

"J"

in reply to "TweedleDee" on 16/06/2005 3:16 PM

16/06/2005 3:22 PM

Ask your local building official.
My short answer is that a roof like that could catch a lot of fish.

-j


"TweedleDee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> We are building a roofed deck off the side of our manufactured home.
> We are at the stage where we are beginning to frame the roof. It's
> ending up to be 10 feet long with a 6 inch drop. Will that meet code
> do you think? I live in Portland, Oregon area with very little snow.
> Roof will be shingled. Thanks for any insight you can give.
>
> Alan
>

lL

[email protected] (Lawrence Wasserman)

in reply to "TweedleDee" on 16/06/2005 3:16 PM

17/06/2005 2:17 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
TweedleDee <[email protected]> wrote:
>We are building a roofed deck off the side of our manufactured home.
>We are at the stage where we are beginning to frame the roof. It's
>ending up to be 10 feet long with a 6 inch drop. Will that meet code
>do you think? I live in Portland, Oregon area with very little snow.
>Roof will be shingled. Thanks for any insight you can give.
>
>Alan
>

That's not steep enough to meet any shingle manufacturer's
requirements that I know of.


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Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
[email protected]


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