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"C Carruth"

23/09/2003 8:29 PM

leveling benchtop - help!

I have finsihed the core of my new bench, made of glued up red oak. When I
put the benchdog strip on, using biscuits to keep it lined up, it ended up
with a lip of 1/16 or so.

Well, appears the last strips on the side are off, lowering the side, which
resulted in the benchdog stip being above the edge of the table, but in line
with the center.

What do I do? The local cabinet shop wants to charge me $60 to run it
through the sander, and a millwork place wants to charge me $150 to run it
through thier finish planer. Neither seems attractive, given it is not a
piece of furniture. However, I want the top to be flat for obvious reasons.
Also, I have not used a plane in 30 years and am skittish about relearning
on this top.

Help!!!!!


This topic has 9 replies

CC

"C Carruth"

in reply to "C Carruth" on 23/09/2003 8:29 PM

24/09/2003 8:50 PM

Ended up taking it to cabinet shop. They will run take of 3/32' via a huge
sander, followed by manual final sanding with orbital sander. So, when done,
flat and final sanded. Cost $50. I figure i done goood..

"Scott Goodyear" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> When I built my latest workbench, several years ago I glued up two
> sections, 15" wide out of 3" hardwood strips on edge (that is the
> maximum width I could get through my planer).
>
> I carefully glued the two sections together but when I checked it the
> next day the sections had shifted almost 1/32" vertically with respect
> to each other. My options were to rip the bench apart on this
> glueline and try again or surface it manually, I don't have access to
> large planers or belt sanders.
>
> Tried my portable belt sander, seemed really slow Like you, I hadn't
> used a handplane since I was a kid helping my Dad. Got out a #5 plane
> I had bought years ago and never really used, sharpened it up and
> started planing. Used a straightedge to mark the high areas and
> planed them down, repeatedly checking with the straightedge until the
> high spots were gone. In an hour I was done, top was dead flat
> whichever way I laid the straightedge on it..
>
> Getting your benchtop flattened commercially is a bargain. It will
> save you the expense of buying a shop full of hand tools once you
> realize what they can do and what a pleasure they are to use.
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:29:13 GMT, "C Carruth" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >I have finsihed the core of my new bench, made of glued up red oak. When
I
> >put the benchdog strip on, using biscuits to keep it lined up, it ended
up
> >with a lip of 1/16 or so.
> >
> >Well, appears the last strips on the side are off, lowering the side,
which
> >resulted in the benchdog stip being above the edge of the table, but in
line
> >with the center.
> >
> >What do I do? The local cabinet shop wants to charge me $60 to run it
> >through the sander, and a millwork place wants to charge me $150 to run
it
> >through thier finish planer. Neither seems attractive, given it is not a
> >piece of furniture. However, I want the top to be flat for obvious
reasons.
> >Also, I have not used a plane in 30 years and am skittish about
relearning
> >on this top.
> >
> >Help!!!!!
> >
>

n

in reply to "C Carruth" on 23/09/2003 8:29 PM

24/09/2003 9:47 AM

Sounds like a good excuse to buy a router and a flush-trim bit to me.




"Mark Jerde" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "C Carruth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I have finsihed the core of my new bench, made of glued up red oak. When
I
> > put the benchdog strip on, using biscuits to keep it lined up, it ended
up
> > with a lip of 1/16 or so.
> >
> > Well, appears the last strips on the side are off, lowering the side,
> which
> > resulted in the benchdog stip being above the edge of the table, but in
> line
> > with the center.
> >
> > What do I do? The local cabinet shop wants to charge me $60 to run it
> > through the sander, and a millwork place wants to charge me $150 to run
it
> > through thier finish planer. Neither seems attractive, given it is not a
> > piece of furniture. However, I want the top to be flat for obvious
> reasons.
> > Also, I have not used a plane in 30 years and am skittish about
relearning
> > on this top.
> >
> > Help!!!!!
>
> The answer is obvious -- buy or build a big sander. <g>
>
> A hand-held belt sander can take off a lot of wood in a hurry.
>
> -- Mark
>
>

NU

"Norm Underwood"

in reply to "C Carruth" on 23/09/2003 8:29 PM

23/09/2003 9:48 PM


"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> what do you care what he spent on the wood? are you gonna reimburse
him
> for it?? I bet even your momma can't stand you!
>
> dave


You truly are ate up like a dumb ass aren't you?

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to "C Carruth" on 23/09/2003 8:29 PM

23/09/2003 9:45 PM

what do you care what he spent on the wood? are you gonna reimburse him
for it?? I bet even your momma can't stand you!

dave

Kevin Slaten wrote:

> "C Carruth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>I have finsihed the core of my new bench, made of glued up red oak.
>
> When I
>
>>put the benchdog strip on, using biscuits to keep it lined up, it
>
> ended up
>
>>with a lip of 1/16 or so.
>>
>>Well, appears the last strips on the side are off, lowering the side,
>
> which
>
>>resulted in the benchdog stip being above the edge of the table, but
>
> in line
>
>>with the center.
>>
>>What do I do? The local cabinet shop wants to charge me $60 to run it
>>through the sander, and a millwork place wants to charge me $150 to
>
> run it
>
>>through thier finish planer. Neither seems attractive, given it is not
>
> a
>
>>piece of furniture. However, I want the top to be flat for obvious
>
> reasons.
>
>>Also, I have not used a plane in 30 years and am skittish about
>
> relearning
>
>>on this top.
>>
>>Help!!!!!
>>
>
>
> How much did you spend on all the wood? How much time and material will
> it cost you to learn how to handplane again?
>
> Go for the 60.00
>
>

MJ

"Mark Jerde"

in reply to "C Carruth" on 23/09/2003 8:29 PM

24/09/2003 3:55 AM

"C Carruth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have finsihed the core of my new bench, made of glued up red oak. When I
> put the benchdog strip on, using biscuits to keep it lined up, it ended up
> with a lip of 1/16 or so.
>
> Well, appears the last strips on the side are off, lowering the side,
which
> resulted in the benchdog stip being above the edge of the table, but in
line
> with the center.
>
> What do I do? The local cabinet shop wants to charge me $60 to run it
> through the sander, and a millwork place wants to charge me $150 to run it
> through thier finish planer. Neither seems attractive, given it is not a
> piece of furniture. However, I want the top to be flat for obvious
reasons.
> Also, I have not used a plane in 30 years and am skittish about relearning
> on this top.
>
> Help!!!!!

The answer is obvious -- buy or build a big sander. <g>

A hand-held belt sander can take off a lot of wood in a hurry.

-- Mark

KS

"Kevin Slaten"

in reply to "C Carruth" on 23/09/2003 8:29 PM

23/09/2003 9:05 PM


"C Carruth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have finsihed the core of my new bench, made of glued up red oak.
When I
> put the benchdog strip on, using biscuits to keep it lined up, it
ended up
> with a lip of 1/16 or so.
>
> Well, appears the last strips on the side are off, lowering the side,
which
> resulted in the benchdog stip being above the edge of the table, but
in line
> with the center.
>
> What do I do? The local cabinet shop wants to charge me $60 to run it
> through the sander, and a millwork place wants to charge me $150 to
run it
> through thier finish planer. Neither seems attractive, given it is not
a
> piece of furniture. However, I want the top to be flat for obvious
reasons.
> Also, I have not used a plane in 30 years and am skittish about
relearning
> on this top.
>
> Help!!!!!
>

How much did you spend on all the wood? How much time and material will
it cost you to learn how to handplane again?

Go for the 60.00

dD

[email protected] (DarylRos)

in reply to "Kevin Slaten" on 23/09/2003 9:05 PM

25/09/2003 5:07 PM

I am a great believer in learning how to use hand tools properly, and a plane
is the most importatn type of tool. That said, spend the $60 and get it sanded.

SG

Scott Goodyear

in reply to "C Carruth" on 23/09/2003 8:29 PM

24/09/2003 4:41 PM

When I built my latest workbench, several years ago I glued up two
sections, 15" wide out of 3" hardwood strips on edge (that is the
maximum width I could get through my planer).

I carefully glued the two sections together but when I checked it the
next day the sections had shifted almost 1/32" vertically with respect
to each other. My options were to rip the bench apart on this
glueline and try again or surface it manually, I don't have access to
large planers or belt sanders.

Tried my portable belt sander, seemed really slow Like you, I hadn't
used a handplane since I was a kid helping my Dad. Got out a #5 plane
I had bought years ago and never really used, sharpened it up and
started planing. Used a straightedge to mark the high areas and
planed them down, repeatedly checking with the straightedge until the
high spots were gone. In an hour I was done, top was dead flat
whichever way I laid the straightedge on it..

Getting your benchtop flattened commercially is a bargain. It will
save you the expense of buying a shop full of hand tools once you
realize what they can do and what a pleasure they are to use.

Scott


On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:29:13 GMT, "C Carruth" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I have finsihed the core of my new bench, made of glued up red oak. When I
>put the benchdog strip on, using biscuits to keep it lined up, it ended up
>with a lip of 1/16 or so.
>
>Well, appears the last strips on the side are off, lowering the side, which
>resulted in the benchdog stip being above the edge of the table, but in line
>with the center.
>
>What do I do? The local cabinet shop wants to charge me $60 to run it
>through the sander, and a millwork place wants to charge me $150 to run it
>through thier finish planer. Neither seems attractive, given it is not a
>piece of furniture. However, I want the top to be flat for obvious reasons.
>Also, I have not used a plane in 30 years and am skittish about relearning
>on this top.
>
>Help!!!!!
>

TW

Tom Watson

in reply to "C Carruth" on 23/09/2003 8:29 PM

23/09/2003 4:40 PM

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:29:13 GMT, "C Carruth" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I have finsihed the core of my new bench, made of glued up red oak. When I
>put the benchdog strip on, using biscuits to keep it lined up, it ended up
>with a lip of 1/16 or so.
>
>Well, appears the last strips on the side are off, lowering the side, which
>resulted in the benchdog stip being above the edge of the table, but in line
>with the center.
>
>What do I do? The local cabinet shop wants to charge me $60 to run it
>through the sander, and a millwork place wants to charge me $150 to run it
>through thier finish planer. Neither seems attractive, given it is not a
>piece of furniture. However, I want the top to be flat for obvious reasons.
>Also, I have not used a plane in 30 years and am skittish about relearning
>on this top.
>
>Help!!!!!
>

I'd go for the sixty dollar deal.

If you don't want to go that way, you can take a router and make a sub
base for it that extends about eighteen inches on one side.

Double face tape a half or three quarter thick, widish strip to the
bench top for the extended base to ride on and set a straight bit or a
morticing bit to a point that will take you within a heavy sixty
fourth of the final depth. Clean up with a cabinet scraper or some
sandpaper glued to a board that will have the paper riding the cut and
the section of the board without paper on it riding the bench top.

I'd still go for the sixty dollar deal.

(Don't go for the planer treatment. You'll have a lot of cleanup to
do)




Regards, Tom
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker
Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
http://users.snip.net/~tjwatson


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