Veritas steel straight edge:

For a reasonably priced longer straight edge, try carpet installers tools
http://www.installertools.com/cgi-bin/INTstore.pl?user_action=list&category=Carpet%20Tools%3BStraight%20Edge

--
Ross
www.myoldtools.com
"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If you have one, please comment on it's accuracy.

Everything Veritas has ALWAYS been above average in accuracy, precision
and workmanship. They appear to take extra care when it's their own
brand.

Make sure to do that end to end and not face to face.

Make sure to do that end to end and not face to face.

Unisaw A100 wrote:
> Robin Lee wrote:
> >We have a 38" and a 50" (both in Aluminum) coming in the January
> >supplement...
>
>
> This is good news. I've been awaiting the re-emergence of
> the longer straight edge.
>
> UA100

How accurate are machinist parallels? Can they be used to accurately
true up table saws and jointers? What exactly do machinists use them
for?

Eric T

Any pricing info, Robin? (I'm sure someone in Canada will complain
about the unfair pricing...) :

David

Robin Lee wrote:

> "John Moorhead" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>David -
>>
>>I have the steel one - works wonders! Far more accurate than I am, tho'
>>sometimes that's not saying much. I only wish they had a 36" one as well.
>>
>>John
>>
>>"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>If you have one, please comment on it's accuracy.
>>
>
>
> Hi John -
>
> We have a 38" and a 50" (both in Aluminum) coming in the January
> supplement...
>
> Cheers -
>
> Rob
>
>

Frank Ketchum wrote:

> "My Old Tools" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> For a reasonably priced longer straight edge, try carpet
>> installers tools
>> http://www.installertools.com/cgi-bin/INTstore.pl?user_action=list&category=Carpet%20Tools%3BStraight%20Edge
>
> Why in the world does a carpet installer need a six foot
> straightedge within 5 thousanths?

Frank...

Can you imagine a carpet looking worse than an orange/purple/pink
shag carpet that's more than 0.005" /oversize/?

(-8

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/solar.html

On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 21:12:43 -0600, "My Old Tools"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>For a reasonably priced longer straight edge, try carpet installers tools
>http://www.installertools.com/cgi-bin/INTstore.pl?user_action=list&category=Carpet%20Tools%3BStraight%20Edge


would they be .001 or .003 accurate?

I have one and it's as flat as they say it is.

--

Rumpty

Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start

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"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If you have one, please comment on it's accuracy.

Robin, Is it extruded or solid I-beam type? Does it have hardened edges?
If so, put me down for one of the 50"

Dave


"Robin Lee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Ecitd.17927$l%[email protected]...
>
> "John Moorhead" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> David -
>>
>> I have the steel one - works wonders! Far more accurate than I am, tho'
>> sometimes that's not saying much. I only wish they had a 36" one as
>> well.
>>
>> John
>>
>> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > If you have one, please comment on it's accuracy.
>>
>
>
> Hi John -
>
> We have a 38" and a 50" (both in Aluminum) coming in the January
> supplement...
>
> Cheers -
>
> Rob
>
>

I'd think that would apply to woodworkers also.


"Frank Ketchum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "My Old Tools" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > For a reasonably priced longer straight edge, try carpet installers
tools
> >
http://www.installertools.com/cgi-bin/INTstore.pl?user_action=list&category=Carpet%20Tools%3BStraight%20Edge
> >
>
> Why in the world does a carpet installer need a six foot straightedge
within
> 5 thousanths?
>
>

"John Moorhead" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> David -
>
> I have the steel one - works wonders! Far more accurate than I am, tho'
> sometimes that's not saying much. I only wish they had a 36" one as well.
>
> John
>
> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > If you have one, please comment on it's accuracy.
>


Hi John -

We have a 38" and a 50" (both in Aluminum) coming in the January
supplement...

Cheers -

Rob

Starrett sells a 36", 48", and 72" straight edge, as well as shorter
lengths.

Philly
"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If you have one, please comment on it's accuracy.

"Frank Ketchum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>
> Why in the world does a carpet installer need a six foot straightedge
> within 5 thousanths?

Ok, lets say the wall is out of parallel by 10 thousandths. . . . . . . . .
.

"Frank Ketchum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> Why in the world does a carpet installer need a six foot straightedge
within
> 5 thousanths?

A carpet for the space shuttle?

Alas, Starrett stuff is out of my price range, for the limited use I'd
put them to.

David

philly wrote:

> Starrett sells a 36", 48", and 72" straight edge, as well as shorter
> lengths.
>
> Philly
> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>If you have one, please comment on it's accuracy.
>
>
>

"My Old Tools" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> For a reasonably priced longer straight edge, try carpet installers tools
> http://www.installertools.com/cgi-bin/INTstore.pl?user_action=list&category=Carpet%20Tools%3BStraight%20Edge
>

Why in the world does a carpet installer need a six foot straightedge within
5 thousanths?

Thanks, Rumpty.
David

Rumpty wrote:

> I have one and it's as flat as they say it is.
>
> --
>
> Rumpty
>
> Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>
>
> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>If you have one, please comment on it's accuracy.
>
>
>

John, weld 2 of those babies together for a 4 footer. :)

David

John Moorhead wrote:

> David -
>
> I have the steel one - works wonders! Far more accurate than I am, tho'
> sometimes that's not saying much. I only wish they had a 36" one as well.
>
> John
>
> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>If you have one, please comment on it's accuracy.
>
>
>

"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:GmYtd.1275$sU4.1164@trndny01...
>

>
> Ok, lets say the wall is out of parallel by 10 thousandths. . . . . . . .
.

I've got one wall in this house that's laughable, unless you owned it.
Thankfully it's a interior wall inside of a closet.

On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 15:50:27 -0500, "Robin Lee" <[email protected]>
calmly ranted:

>Hi -
>
>It's the same extrusion as our current one - also a milled edge.
>
>We claim straight to within .003" over the length of all sizes in aluminum.
>Our first batch of aluminum straightedges was straight to within about .001"
>though...of course - we're not going guarantee that....

Especially after UPS and FedEx get through with 'em, eh?


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"Robin Lee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:pRLtd.31931$l%[email protected]...
>
> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Any pricing info, Robin? (I'm sure someone in Canada will complain
>> about the unfair pricing...) :
>>
>> David
>
> Hi David -
>
> Right now, they sit at :
>
> 38" - 39.50 CDN, 33.50 US
> 50" - 65.00 CDN, 55.00 US
>
> Not sure about shipping surcharge (Canada) on the 50" one - but I think
> we're eating it....nothings final 'till it's printed though.

fold it to make it short enough so you don't have a surcharge

> Cheers -
>
> Rob
>
>
>

"John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Rob
>
> Any possibility that you are going to come out with those lengths in
> STEEL??
>
> I know, they would be MORE expensive, but frankly, I prefer Steel over
> Aluminum for things like those that I intend to keep and USE for many,
> many years
>
> John
>
> On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 18:10:13 -0500, "Robin Lee" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> Any pricing info, Robin? (I'm sure someone in Canada will complain
> >> about the unfair pricing...) :
> >>
> >> David
> >
> >Hi David -
> >
> >Right now, they sit at :
> >
> >38" - 39.50 CDN, 33.50 US
> >50" - 65.00 CDN, 55.00 US
> >
> >Not sure about shipping surcharge (Canada) on the 50" one - but I think
> >we're eating it....nothings final 'till it's printed though.
> >
> >Cheers -
> >
> >Rob
> >

Hi John -

We're looking at longer steel versions - but it requires new equipment, the
weight becomes a factor, as does the stress relief....it won't be fast...

Cheers -

Rob

The 24" aluminum one now is like .005 vs the .001 for the steel

On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 08:57:03 -0800, "TeamCasa" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Robin, Is it extruded or solid I-beam type? Does it have hardened edges?
>If so, put me down for one of the 50"
>
>Dave
>
>
>"Robin Lee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:Ecitd.17927$l%[email protected]...
>>
>> "John Moorhead" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> David -
>>>
>>> I have the steel one - works wonders! Far more accurate than I am, tho'
>>> sometimes that's not saying much. I only wish they had a 36" one as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>> > If you have one, please comment on it's accuracy.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hi John -
>>
>> We have a 38" and a 50" (both in Aluminum) coming in the January
>> supplement...
>>
>> Cheers -
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>

Robin Lee wrote:
>We have a 38" and a 50" (both in Aluminum) coming in the January
>supplement...


This is good news. I've been awaiting the re-emergence of
the longer straight edge.

UA100

"robdingnagian1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> How accurate are machinist parallels?

How ok are you with non-Euclidian space? :)

"TeamCasa" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Robin, Is it extruded or solid I-beam type? Does it have hardened edges?
> If so, put me down for one of the 50"
>
> Dave
>
>
> "Robin Lee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:Ecitd.17927$l%[email protected]...
> >
> > "John Moorhead" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> David -
> >>
> >> I have the steel one - works wonders! Far more accurate than I am,
tho'
> >> sometimes that's not saying much. I only wish they had a 36" one as
> >> well.
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >> > If you have one, please comment on it's accuracy.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Hi John -
> >
> > We have a 38" and a 50" (both in Aluminum) coming in the January
> > supplement...
> >
> > Cheers -
> >
> > Rob
> >

Hi -

It's the same extrusion as our current one - also a milled edge.

We claim straight to within .003" over the length of all sizes in aluminum.
Our first batch of aluminum straightedges was straight to within about .001"
though...of course - we're not going guarantee that....

Cheers -

Rob

"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:GmYtd.1275$sU4.1164@trndny01...
>
> "Frank Ketchum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>
> >
> > Why in the world does a carpet installer need a six foot straightedge
> > within 5 thousanths?
>
> Ok, lets say the wall is out of parallel by 10 thousandths. . . . . . . .
.
> .
>
>

Clearly a problem Edwin, but that's where the art of splicing on a carpet
shim comes in. Stick a little duct tape on the underside spanning the
joint, and marry in the .0010 needed to follow the wall. Geeze...

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

the steel is .001 (or .002) on both edges, the alum is one edge only

not that it really matters, but my thinking is if both edges are flat
it's been better machined --and-- if one ever goes out, the other
might be good

On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 08:57:03 -0800, "TeamCasa" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Robin, Is it extruded or solid I-beam type? Does it have hardened edges?
>If so, put me down for one of the 50"
>
>Dave
>
>
>"Robin Lee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:Ecitd.17927$l%[email protected]...
>>
>> "John Moorhead" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> David -
>>>
>>> I have the steel one - works wonders! Far more accurate than I am, tho'
>>> sometimes that's not saying much. I only wish they had a 36" one as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>> > If you have one, please comment on it's accuracy.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hi John -
>>
>> We have a 38" and a 50" (both in Aluminum) coming in the January
>> supplement...
>>
>> Cheers -
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>

"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Any pricing info, Robin? (I'm sure someone in Canada will complain
> about the unfair pricing...) :
>
> David

Hi David -

Right now, they sit at :

38" - 39.50 CDN, 33.50 US
50" - 65.00 CDN, 55.00 US

Not sure about shipping surcharge (Canada) on the 50" one - but I think
we're eating it....nothings final 'till it's printed though.

Cheers -

Rob

On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 08:26:59 -0500, Robin Lee wrote:

> We have a 38" and a 50" (both in Aluminum) coming in the January
> supplement...

OH NO! I already left the last supplement, with the 24" heavily
highlighted, on the kitchen table for "Santa" to see...

--
"Keep your ass behind you"
vladimir a t mad {dot} scientist {dot} com

On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 11:01:29 -0700, nospam_coloradotrout wrote:

> it's been better machined --and-- if one ever goes out, the other
> might be good

Clever thought, dude. Put a coupla layers of duct tape over one edge when
it comes out of the box...

Or, getting silly, rip it lengthwise and have a twofer.

--
"Keep your ass behind you"
vladimir a t mad {dot} scientist {dot} com

Barry, don't scoff at the guys with crayons! Crayons are much more
accurate than using a spray can of inverted marking paint.

David

Ba r r y wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 13:24:54 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Ok, lets say the wall is out of parallel by 10 thousandths. . . . . . . . .
>
>
> The same wall that's framed by guys who mark with crayons? Never!
> <G>
>
> Barry

On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 10:59:15 -0700,
[email protected] wrote:

>On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 21:12:43 -0600, "My Old Tools"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>For a reasonably priced longer straight edge, try carpet installers tools
>>http://www.installertools.com/cgi-bin/INTstore.pl?user_action=list&category=Carpet%20Tools%3BStraight%20Edge
>
>
>would they be .001 or .003 accurate?


carpet laying doesn't need that kind of accuracy, and the tools see a
lot of abuse. I doubt that the manufacturers would bother.

Rob

Well thanks for at least saying you are contemplating it - will live
with my 2ft steel one till you come out with one 4ft+

John

On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 11:30:01 -0500, "Robin Lee" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Rob
>>
>> Any possibility that you are going to come out with those lengths in
>> STEEL??
>>
>> I know, they would be MORE expensive, but frankly, I prefer Steel over
>> Aluminum for things like those that I intend to keep and USE for many,
>> many years
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 18:10:13 -0500, "Robin Lee" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >news:[email protected]...
>> >> Any pricing info, Robin? (I'm sure someone in Canada will complain
>> >> about the unfair pricing...) :
>> >>
>> >> David
>> >
>> >Hi David -
>> >
>> >Right now, they sit at :
>> >
>> >38" - 39.50 CDN, 33.50 US
>> >50" - 65.00 CDN, 55.00 US
>> >
>> >Not sure about shipping surcharge (Canada) on the 50" one - but I think
>> >we're eating it....nothings final 'till it's printed though.
>> >
>> >Cheers -
>> >
>> >Rob
>> >
>
>Hi John -
>
>We're looking at longer steel versions - but it requires new equipment, the
>weight becomes a factor, as does the stress relief....it won't be fast...
>
>Cheers -
>
>Rob
>

David -

I have the steel one - works wonders! Far more accurate than I am, tho'
sometimes that's not saying much. I only wish they had a 36" one as well.

John

"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If you have one, please comment on it's accuracy.

On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 07:31:01 -0800, David <[email protected]> wrote:

>Barry, don't scoff at the guys with crayons! Crayons are much more
>accurate than using a spray can of inverted marking paint.

This reminds me of a recent WSN article I read. A former boat
outfitter was describing how nothing in a boat is square, and
everything needs to be scribed. Just like a lot of new homes! <g>

Seriously, though, the boat fitting has to make working with funky
compound angles second nature.

Barry

Rob

Any possibility that you are going to come out with those lengths in
STEEL??

I know, they would be MORE expensive, but frankly, I prefer Steel over
Aluminum for things like those that I intend to keep and USE for many,
many years

John

On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 18:10:13 -0500, "Robin Lee" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Any pricing info, Robin? (I'm sure someone in Canada will complain
>> about the unfair pricing...) :
>>
>> David
>
>Hi David -
>
>Right now, they sit at :
>
>38" - 39.50 CDN, 33.50 US
>50" - 65.00 CDN, 55.00 US
>
>Not sure about shipping surcharge (Canada) on the 50" one - but I think
>we're eating it....nothings final 'till it's printed though.
>
>Cheers -
>
>Rob
>
>

On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 13:24:54 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:


>Ok, lets say the wall is out of parallel by 10 thousandths. . . . . . . . .

The same wall that's framed by guys who mark with crayons? Never!
<G>

Barry