On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 00:34:33 GMT, notbob <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 2010-04-07, skeez <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 17:11:35 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>From Huffington Post:
>>>
>>>'Confederate History Month' Declared By Virginia Governor Bob
>>>McDonnell
>
>> why not? we celebrate everybody elses history dont we?
>
>There's a difference between celebrating it and clinging to it like a
>desperate cancer patient. Get a clue, people! The South is NOT gonna
>rise again.
>
>nb
prolly not but it is heritage for some folks and it is part of our
american history. It wasn't all about slavery or black vs white
either. Look at what is going on in america today. could history be
repeating itself? possibly.....
skeez
On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 10:50:23 -0500, "HeyBub" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Charlie Self wrote:
>> On Apr 6, 8:11 pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> From Huffington Post:
>>>
>>> 'Confederate History Month' Declared By Virginia Governor Bob
>>> McDonnell
>>
>> McDonnell is one amusing politician. He's doing exactly what he said
>> he'd do if elected, cutting state spending. Many of those who voted
>> for him are now getting slapped upside the head with the realization
>> that, no, their school is not special, so teachers are going to be, as
>> the euphemism goes, "laid off", and they are teachers. Add to that
>> that pay cuts may be implemented elsewhere, for almost all non-elected
>> employees affected by the state budget, while those in elected
>> offices, like sheriffs, are gonna have to make do with less, unless
>> they can pry some out of the Feds. In toto, the government job cuts
>> are claimed to be reaching up near 50,000, so that McDonnell can use
>> the money to attract 25,000 new jobs to the state.
>>
>> In the meantime, his nest mate, Cucinnelli (sp?) (state attorney
>> general) has filed two lawsuits against the Feds, suits that will draw
>> heavily on state coffers that are already bare, suits that have a
>> chance so close to being none as to classify as that.
>
>One of the lawsuits Cuccinneli filed was to prevent implementation of the
>new federal Health Care legislation. The suit no doubt did cost the state a
>modest amount to prepare and prosecute. On the other hand, if the suit
>prevails, it will save the taxpayers of Virginia literally billions of
>dollars in mandated health care premiums.
>
>As to whether the suit has a chance of succeeding, opinions are, admittedly,
>mixed. There are powerful arguments to be made on each side. At the very
>least, as the suit moves through the court system it will serve as a
>continuing reminder of how perfidious are the Democrats which will accrue to
>everyone's benefit come election day.
>
>>
>> The funniest thing really is the reaction of those who are affected in
>> even minor ways. My home county, Bedford, went for McDonnell by 77%.
>> The day teacher pay cuts were put on the line, 71% of Bedford's
>> teachers refused to allow the cuts so that some jobs could be saved.
>>
>> My take? Teachers salaries are probably not what they should be in
>> this county, though by a lesser margin than the teachers would have us
>> believe. Given the quality of teaching here, I'd say a 7-8% overall
>> boost might be fair. But a 5% pay cut, lasting two to four years, to
>> allow maybe 100 people in the school system to keep their jobs, isn't
>> that hard a pill to swallow in rough times. Unfortunately, this age
>> and professional group (22 through 55 and teachers) has not a clue as
>> to what a hard time really is. The angry red faces and "They can't do
>> this to me" attitudes of probably 85% of the classroom teachers I
>> talked to seemed to me a stunning metaphor of a totally spoiled
>> society. Sort of an "I got mine, screw you, Jack" all around
>> attitude.
>>
>> You have to look around at people today and ask, "Is this what the
>> Founding Fathers intended?"
>>
>> I don't think so, but it's sure what we've got. I do not think this
>> attitude is confined to rural southwestern Virginia, either. The
>> "greatest generation" is dying off quickly, and some, looking around
>> to see what they wrought, are probably glad to go.
>
>I'm not in your neighborhood, so I can't speak to your direct problems. I
>can say, however, as an ex-teacher, than 90% of teachers in the public
>schools are grossly OVERpaid.
>
>How can I say that? Well, first there's no way of judging a teacher's worth.
>Result-based evaluations are not permitted. Seemingly, a teacher is hired or
>promoted based almost entirely on academic credentials. After that, it's
>time in grade. Whether her students learn is irrelevant.
>
>Secondly, the inmates are in charge of the asylum. In my state - and
>probably yours - it is impossible, or at least strikingly difficult, for
>acknowledged experts to teach. In my state, not a single living Nobel
>Laureate, Pulitizer Prize winner, or sitting federal judge is qualified, by
>law, to step into a classroom. Do you doubt a retired civil engineer could
>teach geometry off the top of his head? Or that a retired chemical engineer
>could teach high school chemistry without opening the book? Well, they
>can't. Because they don't have the requisite teaching courses. Of course a
>retired PhD in physics has twenty years of classroom experience, plus, about
>seven years teaching experience (as a grad student), but no matter. He
>hasn't yet passed the required course "Blackboard Technique 101."
>
>
>But wait, there's more: In my local school district, only 40% of the payroll
>budget goes to teachers! Oh, sure, you've got to have people to sweep the
>floors, drive the busses, and print the paychecks, but when less than half
>of your payroll is for staff, something's amiss.
>
>The Chicago public schools and the Catholic parochial schools each have
>about the same number of students. They differ in staff. The Catholic
>schools have about one-tenth the number of supervisors and staff as do the
>public schools (Superintendent, Assistant Superintendent, Associate
>Superintendent, Regional director, Adjunct Regional director, District
>Supervisor, District Supervisor Trainee, School Lunch Compliance Officer,
>Certified Notary Public, blah-blah-blah).
...how 'bout this: If you produce children you are required to educate
them. (In this sense, the Catholic system is doing just what it is
designed to do...although the parents are double-dipped when their
taxes are used to support public schools...)
cg
On 4/7/2010 9:57 AM, Charlie Self wrote:
> I don't think so, but it's sure what we've got. I do not think this
> attitude is confined to rural southwestern Virginia, either. The
> "greatest generation" is dying off quickly, and some, looking around
> to see what they wrought, are probably glad to go.
Bleeding on foreign soil for the current crop of entitlement junkies is
not exactly what most of us had in mind some 40+ years ago either.
What fools we turned out to be ...
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)
On Apr 6, 8:11=A0pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> From Huffington Post:
>
> 'Confederate History Month' Declared By Virginia Governor Bob
> McDonnell
McDonnell is one amusing politician. He's doing exactly what he said
he'd do if elected, cutting state spending. Many of those who voted
for him are now getting slapped upside the head with the realization
that, no, their school is not special, so teachers are going to be, as
the euphemism goes, "laid off", and they are teachers. Add to that
that pay cuts may be implemented elsewhere, for almost all non-elected
employees affected by the state budget, while those in elected
offices, like sheriffs, are gonna have to make do with less, unless
they can pry some out of the Feds. In toto, the government job cuts
are claimed to be reaching up near 50,000, so that McDonnell can use
the money to attract 25,000 new jobs to the state.
In the meantime, his nest mate, Cucinnelli (sp?) (state attorney
general) has filed two lawsuits against the Feds, suits that will draw
heavily on state coffers that are already bare, suits that have a
chance so close to being none as to classify as that.
The funniest thing really is the reaction of those who are affected in
even minor ways. My home county, Bedford, went for McDonnell by 77%.
The day teacher pay cuts were put on the line, 71% of Bedford's
teachers refused to allow the cuts so that some jobs could be saved.
My take? Teachers salaries are probably not what they should be in
this county, though by a lesser margin than the teachers would have us
believe. Given the quality of teaching here, I'd say a 7-8% overall
boost might be fair. But a 5% pay cut, lasting two to four years, to
allow maybe 100 people in the school system to keep their jobs, isn't
that hard a pill to swallow in rough times. Unfortunately, this age
and professional group (22 through 55 and teachers) has not a clue as
to what a hard time really is. The angry red faces and "They can't do
this to me" attitudes of probably 85% of the classroom teachers I
talked to seemed to me a stunning metaphor of a totally spoiled
society. Sort of an "I got mine, screw you, Jack" all around
attitude.
You have to look around at people today and ask, "Is this what the
Founding Fathers intended?"
I don't think so, but it's sure what we've got. I do not think this
attitude is confined to rural southwestern Virginia, either. The
"greatest generation" is dying off quickly, and some, looking around
to see what they wrought, are probably glad to go.
Lew Hodgett wrote:
> From Huffington Post:
>
> Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell's apologized on Wednesday for declaring
> April as "Confederate History Month," but failing to mention slavery
> anywhere in his proclamation.
>
> ----------------------------------
> Wonder why he forgot?
>
He didn't forget. The Recent Unplesantness (some call it the "Second War of
Independence") had nothing to do with slavery directly, Northern propaganda
to the contrary.
Charlie Self wrote:
> On Apr 6, 8:11 pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> From Huffington Post:
>>
>> 'Confederate History Month' Declared By Virginia Governor Bob
>> McDonnell
>
> McDonnell is one amusing politician. He's doing exactly what he said
> he'd do if elected, cutting state spending. Many of those who voted
> for him are now getting slapped upside the head with the realization
> that, no, their school is not special, so teachers are going to be, as
> the euphemism goes, "laid off", and they are teachers. Add to that
> that pay cuts may be implemented elsewhere, for almost all non-elected
> employees affected by the state budget, while those in elected
> offices, like sheriffs, are gonna have to make do with less, unless
> they can pry some out of the Feds. In toto, the government job cuts
> are claimed to be reaching up near 50,000, so that McDonnell can use
> the money to attract 25,000 new jobs to the state.
>
> In the meantime, his nest mate, Cucinnelli (sp?) (state attorney
> general) has filed two lawsuits against the Feds, suits that will draw
> heavily on state coffers that are already bare, suits that have a
> chance so close to being none as to classify as that.
One of the lawsuits Cuccinneli filed was to prevent implementation of the
new federal Health Care legislation. The suit no doubt did cost the state a
modest amount to prepare and prosecute. On the other hand, if the suit
prevails, it will save the taxpayers of Virginia literally billions of
dollars in mandated health care premiums.
As to whether the suit has a chance of succeeding, opinions are, admittedly,
mixed. There are powerful arguments to be made on each side. At the very
least, as the suit moves through the court system it will serve as a
continuing reminder of how perfidious are the Democrats which will accrue to
everyone's benefit come election day.
>
> The funniest thing really is the reaction of those who are affected in
> even minor ways. My home county, Bedford, went for McDonnell by 77%.
> The day teacher pay cuts were put on the line, 71% of Bedford's
> teachers refused to allow the cuts so that some jobs could be saved.
>
> My take? Teachers salaries are probably not what they should be in
> this county, though by a lesser margin than the teachers would have us
> believe. Given the quality of teaching here, I'd say a 7-8% overall
> boost might be fair. But a 5% pay cut, lasting two to four years, to
> allow maybe 100 people in the school system to keep their jobs, isn't
> that hard a pill to swallow in rough times. Unfortunately, this age
> and professional group (22 through 55 and teachers) has not a clue as
> to what a hard time really is. The angry red faces and "They can't do
> this to me" attitudes of probably 85% of the classroom teachers I
> talked to seemed to me a stunning metaphor of a totally spoiled
> society. Sort of an "I got mine, screw you, Jack" all around
> attitude.
>
> You have to look around at people today and ask, "Is this what the
> Founding Fathers intended?"
>
> I don't think so, but it's sure what we've got. I do not think this
> attitude is confined to rural southwestern Virginia, either. The
> "greatest generation" is dying off quickly, and some, looking around
> to see what they wrought, are probably glad to go.
I'm not in your neighborhood, so I can't speak to your direct problems. I
can say, however, as an ex-teacher, than 90% of teachers in the public
schools are grossly OVERpaid.
How can I say that? Well, first there's no way of judging a teacher's worth.
Result-based evaluations are not permitted. Seemingly, a teacher is hired or
promoted based almost entirely on academic credentials. After that, it's
time in grade. Whether her students learn is irrelevant.
Secondly, the inmates are in charge of the asylum. In my state - and
probably yours - it is impossible, or at least strikingly difficult, for
acknowledged experts to teach. In my state, not a single living Nobel
Laureate, Pulitizer Prize winner, or sitting federal judge is qualified, by
law, to step into a classroom. Do you doubt a retired civil engineer could
teach geometry off the top of his head? Or that a retired chemical engineer
could teach high school chemistry without opening the book? Well, they
can't. Because they don't have the requisite teaching courses. Of course a
retired PhD in physics has twenty years of classroom experience, plus, about
seven years teaching experience (as a grad student), but no matter. He
hasn't yet passed the required course "Blackboard Technique 101."
But wait, there's more: In my local school district, only 40% of the payroll
budget goes to teachers! Oh, sure, you've got to have people to sweep the
floors, drive the busses, and print the paychecks, but when less than half
of your payroll is for staff, something's amiss.
The Chicago public schools and the Catholic parochial schools each have
about the same number of students. They differ in staff. The Catholic
schools have about one-tenth the number of supervisors and staff as do the
public schools (Superintendent, Assistant Superintendent, Associate
Superintendent, Regional director, Adjunct Regional director, District
Supervisor, District Supervisor Trainee, School Lunch Compliance Officer,
Certified Notary Public, blah-blah-blah).
On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 17:11:35 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>From Huffington Post:
>
>'Confederate History Month' Declared By Virginia Governor Bob
>McDonnell
>
>
why not? we celebrate everybody elses history dont we?
skeez
On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 00:51:46 -0400, the infamous "J. Clarke"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>On 4/6/2010 11:55 PM, LDosser wrote:
>> "notbob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> On 2010-04-07, skeez <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 17:11:35 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From Huffington Post:
>>>>>
>>>>> 'Confederate History Month' Declared By Virginia Governor Bob
>>>>> McDonnell
>>>
>>>> why not? we celebrate everybody elses history dont we?
>>>
>>> There's a difference between celebrating it and clinging to it like a
>>> desperate cancer patient. Get a clue, people! The South is NOT gonna
>>> rise again.
>>>
>>> nb
>>
>>
>> Neither is the North.
>
>But with any luck the West (or a certain annoying part of it anyway)
>will sink into the sea.
Yeah, that damned rainy Warshington must go!
Hopefully, we can load it up with all OR's Portland Demonrats and CA's
Bay Area Demonrats before it does. I'll miss Griz, but there are
other outlets. Maybe we can sneak it down to OR before WA sinks, too.
(California is far too precious a state to go, though.)
--
Climb the mountains and get their good tidings. Nature's peace
will flow into you as sunshine flows into trees. The winds will
blow their own freshness into you, and the storms their energy,
while cares will drop away from you like the leaves of Autumn.
-- John Muir
On Apr 8, 6:49=A0am, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Lew Hodgett wrote:
> > From Huffington Post:
>
> > Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell's apologized on Wednesday for declaring
> > April as "Confederate History Month," but failing to mention slavery
> > anywhere in his proclamation.
>
> > ----------------------------------
> > Wonder why he forgot?
>
> He didn't forget. The Recent Unplesantness (some call it the "Second War =
of
> Independence") had nothing to do with slavery directly, Northern propagan=
da
> to the contrary.
It had plenty to do with it indirectly, though. I had relatives on
both sides in that fight, though I've had more contact with the
Confederate side of the family.
My guess is McDonnell forgot because his family were sharecroppers or
smallholders in Appalachia back then and knew as little about slavery
as he does today.
He and Cuccinelli are a pair, for sure.
On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 19:31:46 -0700, the infamous "LDosser"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 23:49:13 +0000 (UTC), the infamous Larry Blanchard
>> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>
>>>On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 05:21:16 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>
>>>>>But with any luck the West (or a certain annoying part of it anyway)
>>>>>will sink into the sea.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, that damned rainy Warshington must go!
>>>
>>>You obviously have never been to eastern WA - we get the same amount of
>>>precip as Los Angeles. Of course, most of ours comes down white :-).
>>
>> Frozen rain, thawed rain, what's the difference? It's still a mess
>> and a PITA.
>>
>> I haven't been east of the Cascades here in OR yet, either. Time for
>> a road trip some long weekend.
>
>Suggestions: Fort Rock, Crack In The Ground, Newberry Crater, Alvord Desert,
>Lake Abert, Steens Mountain. Sumpter, if you're of a mind to go that far
>north.
I'll check those out online. Thanks.
I haven't even made it to Diamond Lake or Crater Lake Park yet, let
alone Bend or farther. I did finally manage to go down 199 to
Crescent City, CA once, though. I delivered an electric wheelchair to
a lady there. I love it when clients pay me to take interesting road
trips. ;)
--
Climb the mountains and get their good tidings. Nature's peace
will flow into you as sunshine flows into trees. The winds will
blow their own freshness into you, and the storms their energy,
while cares will drop away from you like the leaves of Autumn.
-- John Muir
"notbob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 2010-04-07, skeez <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 17:11:35 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>From Huffington Post:
>>>
>>>'Confederate History Month' Declared By Virginia Governor Bob
>>>McDonnell
>
>> why not? we celebrate everybody elses history dont we?
>
> There's a difference between celebrating it and clinging to it like a
> desperate cancer patient. Get a clue, people! The South is NOT gonna
> rise again.
>
> nb
Neither is the North.
On 4/6/2010 11:55 PM, LDosser wrote:
> "notbob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On 2010-04-07, skeez <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 17:11:35 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From Huffington Post:
>>>>
>>>> 'Confederate History Month' Declared By Virginia Governor Bob
>>>> McDonnell
>>
>>> why not? we celebrate everybody elses history dont we?
>>
>> There's a difference between celebrating it and clinging to it like a
>> desperate cancer patient. Get a clue, people! The South is NOT gonna
>> rise again.
>>
>> nb
>
>
> Neither is the North.
But with any luck the West (or a certain annoying part of it anyway)
will sink into the sea.
On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 05:21:16 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>But with any luck the West (or a certain annoying part of it anyway)
>>will sink into the sea.
>
> Yeah, that damned rainy Warshington must go!
You obviously have never been to eastern WA - we get the same amount of
precip as Los Angeles. Of course, most of ours comes down white :-).
--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw
"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 23:49:13 +0000 (UTC), the infamous Larry Blanchard
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>>On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 05:21:16 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>
>>>>But with any luck the West (or a certain annoying part of it anyway)
>>>>will sink into the sea.
>>>
>>> Yeah, that damned rainy Warshington must go!
>>
>>You obviously have never been to eastern WA - we get the same amount of
>>precip as Los Angeles. Of course, most of ours comes down white :-).
>
> Frozen rain, thawed rain, what's the difference? It's still a mess
> and a PITA.
>
> I haven't been east of the Cascades here in OR yet, either. Time for
> a road trip some long weekend.
Suggestions: Fort Rock, Crack In The Ground, Newberry Crater, Alvord Desert,
Lake Abert, Steens Mountain. Sumpter, if you're of a mind to go that far
north.
"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 19:31:46 -0700, the infamous "LDosser"
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 23:49:13 +0000 (UTC), the infamous Larry Blanchard
>>> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 05:21:16 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>But with any luck the West (or a certain annoying part of it anyway)
>>>>>>will sink into the sea.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, that damned rainy Warshington must go!
>>>>
>>>>You obviously have never been to eastern WA - we get the same amount of
>>>>precip as Los Angeles. Of course, most of ours comes down white :-).
>>>
>>> Frozen rain, thawed rain, what's the difference? It's still a mess
>>> and a PITA.
>>>
>>> I haven't been east of the Cascades here in OR yet, either. Time for
>>> a road trip some long weekend.
>>
>>Suggestions: Fort Rock, Crack In The Ground, Newberry Crater, Alvord
>>Desert,
>>Lake Abert, Steens Mountain. Sumpter, if you're of a mind to go that far
>>north.
>
> I'll check those out online. Thanks.
>
> I haven't even made it to Diamond Lake or Crater Lake Park yet, let
> alone Bend or farther. I did finally manage to go down 199 to
> Crescent City, CA once, though. I delivered an electric wheelchair to
> a lady there. I love it when clients pay me to take interesting road
> trips. ;)
Crescent City - 17 tsunamis and hit bad in 1964!
"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 22:19:02 -0700, the infamous "LDosser"
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> I haven't even made it to Diamond Lake or Crater Lake Park yet, let
>>> alone Bend or farther. I did finally manage to go down 199 to
>>> Crescent City, CA once, though. I delivered an electric wheelchair to
>>> a lady there. I love it when clients pay me to take interesting road
>>> trips. ;)
>>
>>Crescent City - 17 tsunamis and hit bad in 1964!
>
> How lovely! Was '64 the quake which hit Anchorage, AK? [I was born
> there (Elmendorf AFB in Anchorage) but left in '54 at age 1.]
Yeah, 1964 and CC got hit worse than Anchorage!
On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 22:19:02 -0700, the infamous "LDosser"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> I haven't even made it to Diamond Lake or Crater Lake Park yet, let
>> alone Bend or farther. I did finally manage to go down 199 to
>> Crescent City, CA once, though. I delivered an electric wheelchair to
>> a lady there. I love it when clients pay me to take interesting road
>> trips. ;)
>
>Crescent City - 17 tsunamis and hit bad in 1964!
How lovely! Was '64 the quake which hit Anchorage, AK? [I was born
there (Elmendorf AFB in Anchorage) but left in '54 at age 1.]
--
Climb the mountains and get their good tidings. Nature's peace
will flow into you as sunshine flows into trees. The winds will
blow their own freshness into you, and the storms their energy,
while cares will drop away from you like the leaves of Autumn.
-- John Muir
On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 23:49:13 +0000 (UTC), the infamous Larry Blanchard
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 05:21:16 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>>>But with any luck the West (or a certain annoying part of it anyway)
>>>will sink into the sea.
>>
>> Yeah, that damned rainy Warshington must go!
>
>You obviously have never been to eastern WA - we get the same amount of
>precip as Los Angeles. Of course, most of ours comes down white :-).
Frozen rain, thawed rain, what's the difference? It's still a mess
and a PITA.
I haven't been east of the Cascades here in OR yet, either. Time for
a road trip some long weekend.
--
Climb the mountains and get their good tidings. Nature's peace
will flow into you as sunshine flows into trees. The winds will
blow their own freshness into you, and the storms their energy,
while cares will drop away from you like the leaves of Autumn.
-- John Muir
On 2010-04-07, skeez <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 17:11:35 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>From Huffington Post:
>>
>>'Confederate History Month' Declared By Virginia Governor Bob
>>McDonnell
> why not? we celebrate everybody elses history dont we?
There's a difference between celebrating it and clinging to it like a
desperate cancer patient. Get a clue, people! The South is NOT gonna
rise again.
nb
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 21:44:01 -0700, the infamous "LDosser"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 22:19:02 -0700, the infamous "LDosser"
>> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>
>>>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>> I haven't even made it to Diamond Lake or Crater Lake Park yet, let
>>>> alone Bend or farther. I did finally manage to go down 199 to
>>>> Crescent City, CA once, though. I delivered an electric wheelchair to
>>>> a lady there. I love it when clients pay me to take interesting road
>>>> trips. ;)
>>>
>>>Crescent City - 17 tsunamis and hit bad in 1964!
>>
>> How lovely! Was '64 the quake which hit Anchorage, AK? [I was born
>> there (Elmendorf AFB in Anchorage) but left in '54 at age 1.]
>
>Yeah, 1964 and CC got hit worse than Anchorage!
I looked at the map and they're on a flat below the surrounding
mountains. Elevation 43', annual rainfall 70". PASS!
--
Climb the mountains and get their good tidings. Nature's peace
will flow into you as sunshine flows into trees. The winds will
blow their own freshness into you, and the storms their energy,
while cares will drop away from you like the leaves of Autumn.
-- John Muir