I'm about to endeavor to create a wwshop (Contractors TS, bench tools, and
hand tools only) in the third bay of a 3 car garage, but I don't really want
it to look like a shop (dusty tools everywhere, cords showing, scraps all
over the place). I'm afraid the BOSS would have increased anxiety levels
should the third bay look cluttered all the time, and I really don't need
her any more anxious than she already is. I could deal with it, but let's
just say I'd rather not. And I have to admit, not having to look at clutter
as I pull into the garage when arriving home after a long day at the orifice
has some appeal to me as well. Anal-retentive is not quite my (our)
descriptor, but it's pretty darn close.
My idea, naive as it may be, is to have doors on everything, with upper and
lower cabinets running the length of two walls to contain everything. No
exposed peg board for hanging tools, no racks for clamps, no visible bench
or hand tools, and no visible shelves. I'm even considering a hiding place
for the TS. Yes, aesthetics over convenience, or Style over Substance.
Foolish, yes, but I want to make the effort. And I'm not too concerned with
taking the time to drag everything out when I'm on a project.
My idea is to build plywood cabinets (sanded pine from the BORG) with pine
trim, and making a wheeled 8' bench with lower doors to nestle between the
fixed cabinets. Flip-top lower cabinets for bench tools to hide them
underneath for the time not in use. The inevitable scraps in the basement,
where it sure to cluttered as hell anyway(out of sight, out of mind). And
I'd like to have it all automated, with a remote control to retract all the
doors... nah, just kidding about the remote part.
I can almost picture it in my head, and have Visio'ed a few designs, but I
get this sinking feeling it's a bad idea. Has anyone done something
similar? As in, could someone walk into your garage/basement/spare bedroom
shop that has been "put away" and have a hard time recognizing it as such?
Thank you for your collective wisdom, and I've got thick skin, so call me
stupid if you think it appropriate.
Hedley
--And let's please all remember to binge in moderation.
Hedley wrote:
> I'm about to endeavor to create a wwshop (Contractors TS, bench tools, and
> hand tools only) in the third bay of a 3 car garage, but I don't really want
> it to look like a shop (dusty tools everywhere, cords showing, scraps all
> over the place). I'm afraid the BOSS would have increased anxiety levels
> should the third bay look cluttered all the time, and I really don't need
> her any more anxious than she already is. I could deal with it, but let's
> just say I'd rather not. And I have to admit, not having to look at clutter
> as I pull into the garage when arriving home after a long day at the orifice
> has some appeal to me as well. Anal-retentive is not quite my (our)
> descriptor, but it's pretty darn close.
>
> My idea, naive as it may be, is to have doors on everything, with upper and
> lower cabinets running the length of two walls to contain everything. No
> exposed peg board for hanging tools, no racks for clamps, no visible bench
> or hand tools, and no visible shelves. I'm even considering a hiding place
> for the TS. Yes, aesthetics over convenience, or Style over Substance.
> Foolish, yes, but I want to make the effort. And I'm not too concerned with
> taking the time to drag everything out when I'm on a project.
>
> My idea is to build plywood cabinets (sanded pine from the BORG) with pine
> trim, and making a wheeled 8' bench with lower doors to nestle between the
> fixed cabinets. Flip-top lower cabinets for bench tools to hide them
> underneath for the time not in use. The inevitable scraps in the basement,
> where it sure to cluttered as hell anyway(out of sight, out of mind). And
> I'd like to have it all automated, with a remote control to retract all the
> doors... nah, just kidding about the remote part.
>
> I can almost picture it in my head, and have Visio'ed a few designs, but I
> get this sinking feeling it's a bad idea. Has anyone done something
> similar? As in, could someone walk into your garage/basement/spare bedroom
> shop that has been "put away" and have a hard time recognizing it as such?
>
> Thank you for your collective wisdom, and I've got thick skin, so call me
> stupid if you think it appropriate.
>
> Hedley
> --And let's please all remember to binge in moderation.
>
>
A simple solution to a complex problem.
Run a dividing wall between the "Shop" bay and the other 2.
Keep the door shut, all's clean and neat. ;)
regards
John
jo4hn wrote:
> John B wrote:
>
>> Hedley wrote:
>> [massive snippage. >
>> A simple solution to a complex problem.
>> Run a dividing wall between the "Shop" bay and the other 2.
>> Keep the door shut, all's clean and neat. ;)
>> regards
>> John
>
>
> My definition between the shop and the cars is called a "garage door".
> No cars in the shop, no problem. That said, LOML's car is parked in
> part of the shop.
> blush,
> jo4hn
The (Garage) shed, is my domain, my shit and spread where ever I want
it. Most of the time not where I can find it. :)
My old ute and the other half's sedan live in carports.
Couldn't, get a car in the shed if I wanted to. ;)
regards
John
John B <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hedley wrote:
>> I'm about to endeavor to create a wwshop (Contractors TS, bench tools, and
>> hand tools only) in the third bay of a 3 car garage, but I don't really want
>> it to look like a shop (dusty tools everywhere, cords showing, scraps all
>> over the place). I'm afraid the BOSS would have increased anxiety levels
>> should the third bay look cluttered all the time, and I really don't need
>> her any more anxious than she already is. I could deal with it, but let's
>> just say I'd rather not. And I have to admit, not having to look at clutter
>> as I pull into the garage when arriving home after a long day at the orifice
>> has some appeal to me as well. Anal-retentive is not quite my (our)
>> descriptor, but it's pretty darn close.
>>
>> My idea, naive as it may be, is to have doors on everything, with upper and
>> lower cabinets running the length of two walls to contain everything. No
>> exposed peg board for hanging tools, no racks for clamps, no visible bench
>> or hand tools, and no visible shelves. I'm even considering a hiding place
>> for the TS. Yes, aesthetics over convenience, or Style over Substance.
>> Foolish, yes, but I want to make the effort. And I'm not too concerned with
>> taking the time to drag everything out when I'm on a project.
>>
>> My idea is to build plywood cabinets (sanded pine from the BORG) with pine
>> trim, and making a wheeled 8' bench with lower doors to nestle between the
>> fixed cabinets. Flip-top lower cabinets for bench tools to hide them
>> underneath for the time not in use. The inevitable scraps in the basement,
>> where it sure to cluttered as hell anyway(out of sight, out of mind). And
>> I'd like to have it all automated, with a remote control to retract all the
>> doors... nah, just kidding about the remote part.
>>
>> I can almost picture it in my head, and have Visio'ed a few designs, but I
>> get this sinking feeling it's a bad idea. Has anyone done something
>> similar? As in, could someone walk into your garage/basement/spare bedroom
>> shop that has been "put away" and have a hard time recognizing it as such?
>>
>> Thank you for your collective wisdom, and I've got thick skin, so call me
>> stupid if you think it appropriate.
>>
>> Hedley
>> --And let's please all remember to binge in moderation.
>>
>>
> A simple solution to a complex problem.
> Run a dividing wall between the "Shop" bay and the other 2.
> Keep the door shut, all's clean and neat. ;)
That's exactly what I did. 1 car part is separated from the 2 car one with a
real wall and airconditioned. It hosts my metallworking shop (vertical mill,
lathe and lot of other stuff.)
Unfortunately enough my woodworking stuff does not fit there so now it takes
the rest -- that 2 car partition. Temporarily, until we have that house
remodelling finished. That's what my wife's thinking :)) I doubt that all
those nice machines (jointer, planer, TS, router table, dust collector etc.)
would leave any space for cars... And it also looks like my family is no
longer all that sure that cars do belong in the garage :))
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Luigi Zanasi wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:46:23 -0500, "Hedley"
> <[email protected]> scribbled:
>
> >
> >"stoutman" <.@.> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> "Hedley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >>> I'm about to endeavor to create a wwshop (Contractors TS, bench tools,
> >>> and
> >SNIP
> >>>And I have to admit, not having to look at clutter as I pull into the
> >>>garage
> >>
> >> Cars live outside!!!!
> >>
> >> When I bought our new home with a garage, the garage became a workshop.
> >> We have NO "garage".
> >
> >Did I mention the winters around Chicago? Demonic.
>
> How about the winters around Whitehorse? But we have been having an
> unusual October, no snow fall yet this year. Cars belong outside,
> that's why they're painted so well, like Charlie Self says.
With a proviso: I've been shooting a lot of antique/vintage cars for
articles these days, and you do NOT park those babies outside. That
$445 Model A in top notch restored condition may be worth 30K today,
but only if the paint is in perfect AACA Grand National Award
condition, while that $150,000 Cord will lose value as well as luster
if left outdoors, as will the '34 Jag SS1 (museum condition, first year
of first model with Jaguar nameplate. Value? You guess, cause I'm
afraid to).
My walk out doesn't share space with lawnmowers, etc., but with other
stuff in storage, and what I did was frame out a wall between the shop
area (which is about 18 by 40) and a "storage" area which also includes
the furnace and hot water heater and covered the wall with 1/2" CDX
ply. I sheetrocked off the stairs and put in a few doors I salvaged
from a neighbor. No dust gets into the stairway, or the storage area.
I built some lumber storage racks in the storage area and keep my wood
over there. Works for me. Mutt.
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:02:04 -0400, Bob G. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>With a proviso: I've been shooting a lot of antique/vintage cars for
>>articles these days, and you do NOT park those babies outside. That
>>$445 Model A in top notch restored condition may be worth 30K today,
>>but only if the paint is in perfect AACA Grand National Award
>>condition, while that $150,000 Cord will lose value as well as luster
>>if left outdoors, as will the '34 Jag SS1 (museum condition, first year
>>of first model with Jaguar nameplate. Value? You guess, cause I'm
>>afraid to).
>
>I can relate...
>
>I have 5 Corvettes and a Chevelle parked in my garages...which forced
>me to move my shop upstairs over the one garage.... a Shop on the
>second floor is NOT great but it works especially when I "have" to
>have the cars parked inside a locked, secure area or my "car"
>Insurance is voided...
>
>My Truck (my daily driver )and my wives van are parked on the driveway
>24/7 ...only time they ever enter one of the garages is to put them up
>on the lift for maintance...
>
>Shame I had to move the shop...BUT a guy has to do what a Guy has to
>do... too many hobbies, not enough land...
>
>Bob G.
>
methinks that if I had that stable of cheby iron, I could afford a secured
storage unit for them... just think of the shop that could be set up in the
space 3 or 4 of them are taking up.. *g*
mac
Please remove splinters before emailing
Thank you all for the input. Now I have to go do my nails...
"Hedley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm about to endeavor to create a wwshop (Contractors TS, bench tools, and
> hand tools only) in the third bay of a 3 car garage, but I don't really
> want
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:40:25 -0500, "Hedley" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Thank you all for the input. Now I have to go do my nails...
>
>
10 penny?
mac
Please remove splinters before emailing
Consider a version of this:
http://www.newyankee.com/getproduct3.cgi?0201
and even a version of this:
http://www.newyankee.com/getproduct3.cgi?0313
and to hide the rest:
http://www.newyankee.com/getproduct3.cgi?0106
The major tools can be shifted to a wall with mobile bases.
In theory, you can hide them all behind a wall with drop
down panels on hinges.
Putting tools "in" cabinets is an excellent idea.
Hedley wrote:
I'm afraid the BOSS would have increased anxiety levels
> should the third bay look cluttered all the time, and I really don't need
> her any more anxious than she already is. I could deal with it, but let's
> just say I'd rather not. And I have to admit, not having to look at clutter
> as I pull into the garage when arriving home after a long day at the orifice
> has some appeal to me as well.
John B wrote:
> Hedley wrote:
> [massive snippage. >
> A simple solution to a complex problem.
> Run a dividing wall between the "Shop" bay and the other 2.
> Keep the door shut, all's clean and neat. ;)
> regards
> John
My definition between the shop and the cars is called a "garage door".
No cars in the shop, no problem. That said, LOML's car is parked in
part of the shop.
blush,
jo4hn
"Hedley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
..
> I don't really want it to look like a shop (dusty tools everywhere, cords
> showing, scraps all over the place).
> I'm afraid the BOSS would have increased anxiety levels should the third
> bay look cluttered all the time, and I really don't need her any more
> anxious than she already is. I could deal with it, but let's just say I'd
> rather not.
> And I have to admit, not having to look at clutter as I pull into the
> garage when arriving home after a long day at the orifice has some appeal
> to me as well.
Only advice I have is to find a different hobby. My shop is cluttered. If
looking at it when I got home from work upset me, I'd start doing
needlepoint instead. My shop is a place I can do what I want, work or not
work, tackle a big a project or sweep the dust instead. To me, the shop is
an inviting place, not a cause of anxiety.
--
Ed
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/
"Hedley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm about to endeavor to create a wwshop (Contractors TS, bench tools, and
> hand tools only) in the third bay of a 3 car garage, but I don't really
> want it to look like a shop (dusty tools everywhere, cords showing, scraps
> all over the place). I'm afraid the BOSS would have increased anxiety
> levels should the third bay look cluttered all the time, and I really
> don't need her any more anxious than she already is. I could deal with
> it, but let's just say I'd rather not. And I have to admit, not having to
> look at clutter as I pull into the garage when arriving home after a long
> day at the orifice has some appeal to me as well. Anal-retentive is not
> quite my (our) descriptor, but it's pretty darn close.
>
> My idea, naive as it may be, is to have doors on everything, with upper
> and lower cabinets running the length of two walls to contain everything.
> No exposed peg board for hanging tools, no racks for clamps, no visible
> bench or hand tools, and no visible shelves. I'm even considering a
> hiding place for the TS. Yes, aesthetics over convenience, or Style over
> Substance. Foolish, yes, but I want to make the effort. And I'm not too
> concerned with taking the time to drag everything out when I'm on a
> project.
>
> My idea is to build plywood cabinets (sanded pine from the BORG) with pine
> trim, and making a wheeled 8' bench with lower doors to nestle between the
> fixed cabinets. Flip-top lower cabinets for bench tools to hide them
> underneath for the time not in use. The inevitable scraps in the
> basement, where it sure to cluttered as hell anyway(out of sight, out of
> mind). And I'd like to have it all automated, with a remote control to
> retract all the doors... nah, just kidding about the remote part.
>
> I can almost picture it in my head, and have Visio'ed a few designs, but I
> get this sinking feeling it's a bad idea. Has anyone done something
> similar? As in, could someone walk into your garage/basement/spare
> bedroom shop that has been "put away" and have a hard time recognizing it
> as such?
>
> Thank you for your collective wisdom, and I've got thick skin, so call me
> stupid if you think it appropriate.
>
> Hedley
> --And let's please all remember to binge in moderation.
>
>
A countertop/worktop, with cabinets underneath. In the cabinets have a lot
of drawers with labels.
I find drawers with labels extremely valuable in my shop.
95% of my tools and assorted hardware have a dedicated place to be stored.
I can put everything away in less than 5 minutes after a project, and
sometimes do during a project just to get myself reorganized. I go right to
the tools I need when I need them.
Drawers-would not be with-out them.
Wayne,
Columbia MD
"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:DRY5f.511$R%[email protected]...
>
> "Hedley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> ..
>> I don't really want it to look like a shop (dusty tools everywhere, cords
>> showing, scraps all over the place).
>
>> I'm afraid the BOSS would have increased anxiety levels should the third
>> bay look cluttered all the time, and I really don't need her any more
>> anxious than she already is. I could deal with it, but let's just say
>> I'd rather not.
>
>> And I have to admit, not having to look at clutter as I pull into the
>> garage when arriving home after a long day at the orifice has some appeal
>> to me as well.
>
> Only advice I have is to find a different hobby. My shop is cluttered.
> If looking at it when I got home from work upset me, I'd start doing
> needlepoint instead. My shop is a place I can do what I want, work or not
> work, tackle a big a project or sweep the dust instead. To me, the shop
> is an inviting place, not a cause of anxiety.
> --
> Ed
> http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/
>
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:31:16 GMT, Pat Barber <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Consider a version of this:
>
>http://www.newyankee.com/getproduct3.cgi?0201
>
>and even a version of this:
>
>http://www.newyankee.com/getproduct3.cgi?0313
>
>and to hide the rest:
>
>http://www.newyankee.com/getproduct3.cgi?0106
>
>The major tools can be shifted to a wall with mobile bases.
>
>In theory, you can hide them all behind a wall with drop
>down panels on hinges.
>
>Putting tools "in" cabinets is an excellent idea.
>
>
>Hedley wrote:
>
> I'm afraid the BOSS would have increased anxiety levels
>> should the third bay look cluttered all the time, and I really don't need
>> her any more anxious than she already is. I could deal with it, but let's
>> just say I'd rather not. And I have to admit, not having to look at clutter
>> as I pull into the garage when arriving home after a long day at the orifice
>> has some appeal to me as well.
Let us not forget the old 'mini lathe in the fold-down ironing board" trick...
mac
Please remove splinters before emailing
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:28:54 -0500, "Hedley"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm about to endeavor to create a wwshop (Contractors TS, bench tools, and
>hand tools only) in the third bay of a 3 car garage, but I don't really want
>it to look like a shop (dusty tools everywhere, cords showing, scraps all
>over the place). I'm afraid the BOSS would have increased anxiety levels
>should the third bay look cluttered all the time, and I really don't need
>her any more anxious than she already is. I could deal with it, but let's
>just say I'd rather not. And I have to admit, not having to look at clutter
>as I pull into the garage when arriving home after a long day at the orifice
>has some appeal to me as well. Anal-retentive is not quite my (our)
>descriptor, but it's pretty darn close.
>
>My idea, naive as it may be, is to have doors on everything, with upper and
>lower cabinets running the length of two walls to contain everything. No
>exposed peg board for hanging tools, no racks for clamps, no visible bench
>or hand tools, and no visible shelves. I'm even considering a hiding place
>for the TS. Yes, aesthetics over convenience, or Style over Substance.
>Foolish, yes, but I want to make the effort. And I'm not too concerned with
>taking the time to drag everything out when I'm on a project.
>
>My idea is to build plywood cabinets (sanded pine from the BORG) with pine
>trim, and making a wheeled 8' bench with lower doors to nestle between the
>fixed cabinets. Flip-top lower cabinets for bench tools to hide them
>underneath for the time not in use. The inevitable scraps in the basement,
>where it sure to cluttered as hell anyway(out of sight, out of mind). And
>I'd like to have it all automated, with a remote control to retract all the
>doors... nah, just kidding about the remote part.
>
>I can almost picture it in my head, and have Visio'ed a few designs, but I
>get this sinking feeling it's a bad idea. Has anyone done something
>similar? As in, could someone walk into your garage/basement/spare bedroom
>shop that has been "put away" and have a hard time recognizing it as such?
>
>Thank you for your collective wisdom, and I've got thick skin, so call me
>stupid if you think it appropriate.
>
>Hedley
>--And let's please all remember to binge in moderation.
>
not stoopid at all. stuff out in the open gathers dust.
make lots of flat drawers for the small tools. make about twice as
many drawers as you think you'll need.
think of it this way: the process of making your shop furniture will
teach you a lot about how to do it, how to use the space you're in and
what tools you need.
go for it.
1. Buy a lathe
2. Load extra large chunk of firewood into lathe
3. Turn until it resembles a stick
4. Beat some sense into SWMBO
5. When she comes to her senses, hand her the stick and have her beat you senseless, TWICE.
6. In a year or two, when you can't find the lathe for the shavings, shovel them out until you can
see the top of it like the rest of us do.
Geez, I finally agree with Frito. We need a moderator. The Wreck has to have some standards.
Imagine! Parking cars inside the shop! You and your wife definitely have something wrong with you,
"Hedley". Threads like this just simply cannot be tolerated.
(BTW-I think I was just reading one of your other archived posts on a certain WW web archive site a
couple of nights ago. Nice job.)
Regards,
Roy
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:28:54 -0500, "Hedley" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm about to endeavor to create a wwshop (Contractors TS, bench tools, and
>hand tools only) in the third bay of a 3 car garage, but I don't really want
>it to look like a shop (dusty tools everywhere, cords showing, scraps all
>over the place). I'm afraid the BOSS would have increased anxiety levels
>should the third bay look cluttered all the time, and I really don't need
>her any more anxious than she already is. I could deal with it, but let's
>just say I'd rather not. And I have to admit, not having to look at clutter
>as I pull into the garage when arriving home after a long day at the orifice
>has some appeal to me as well. Anal-retentive is not quite my (our)
>descriptor, but it's pretty darn close.
>
>My idea, naive as it may be, is to have doors on everything, with upper and
>lower cabinets running the length of two walls to contain everything. No
>exposed peg board for hanging tools, no racks for clamps, no visible bench
>or hand tools, and no visible shelves. I'm even considering a hiding place
>for the TS. Yes, aesthetics over convenience, or Style over Substance.
>Foolish, yes, but I want to make the effort. And I'm not too concerned with
>taking the time to drag everything out when I'm on a project.
>
>My idea is to build plywood cabinets (sanded pine from the BORG) with pine
>trim, and making a wheeled 8' bench with lower doors to nestle between the
>fixed cabinets. Flip-top lower cabinets for bench tools to hide them
>underneath for the time not in use. The inevitable scraps in the basement,
>where it sure to cluttered as hell anyway(out of sight, out of mind). And
>I'd like to have it all automated, with a remote control to retract all the
>doors... nah, just kidding about the remote part.
>
>I can almost picture it in my head, and have Visio'ed a few designs, but I
>get this sinking feeling it's a bad idea. Has anyone done something
>similar? As in, could someone walk into your garage/basement/spare bedroom
>shop that has been "put away" and have a hard time recognizing it as such?
>
>Thank you for your collective wisdom, and I've got thick skin, so call me
>stupid if you think it appropriate.
>
>Hedley
>--And let's please all remember to binge in moderation.
>
"Bob G." <[email protected]> wrote
>
> My Truck (my daily driver )and my wives van are parked on the driveway
> 24/7 ...only time they ever enter one of the garages is to put them up
> on the lift for maintance...
>
I apologize, I just can't help myself. I read the above remark and got this
picture.
Uhhhhhh..........., Bob, just how many wives do you have??
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 03:00:51 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Hedley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>..
>> I don't really want it to look like a shop (dusty tools everywhere, cords
>> showing, scraps all over the place).
>
>> I'm afraid the BOSS would have increased anxiety levels should the third
>> bay look cluttered all the time, and I really don't need her any more
>> anxious than she already is. I could deal with it, but let's just say I'd
>> rather not.
>
>> And I have to admit, not having to look at clutter as I pull into the
>> garage when arriving home after a long day at the orifice has some appeal
>> to me as well.
>
>Only advice I have is to find a different hobby. My shop is cluttered. If
>looking at it when I got home from work upset me, I'd start doing
>needlepoint instead. My shop is a place I can do what I want, work or not
>work, tackle a big a project or sweep the dust instead. To me, the shop is
>an inviting place, not a cause of anxiety.
mine's spotless....
or at least I don't think there are any spots under the shavings...
mac
Please remove splinters before emailing
>
>With a proviso: I've been shooting a lot of antique/vintage cars for
>articles these days, and you do NOT park those babies outside. That
>$445 Model A in top notch restored condition may be worth 30K today,
>but only if the paint is in perfect AACA Grand National Award
>condition, while that $150,000 Cord will lose value as well as luster
>if left outdoors, as will the '34 Jag SS1 (museum condition, first year
>of first model with Jaguar nameplate. Value? You guess, cause I'm
>afraid to).
I can relate...
I have 5 Corvettes and a Chevelle parked in my garages...which forced
me to move my shop upstairs over the one garage.... a Shop on the
second floor is NOT great but it works especially when I "have" to
have the cars parked inside a locked, secure area or my "car"
Insurance is voided...
My Truck (my daily driver )and my wives van are parked on the driveway
24/7 ...only time they ever enter one of the garages is to put them up
on the lift for maintance...
Shame I had to move the shop...BUT a guy has to do what a Guy has to
do... too many hobbies, not enough land...
Bob G.
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:46:23 -0500, "Hedley"
<[email protected]> scribbled:
>
>"stoutman" <.@.> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> "Hedley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> I'm about to endeavor to create a wwshop (Contractors TS, bench tools,
>>> and
>SNIP
>>>And I have to admit, not having to look at clutter as I pull into the
>>>garage
>>
>> Cars live outside!!!!
>>
>> When I bought our new home with a garage, the garage became a workshop.
>> We have NO "garage".
>
>Did I mention the winters around Chicago? Demonic.
How about the winters around Whitehorse? But we have been having an
unusual October, no snow fall yet this year. Cars belong outside,
that's why they're painted so well, like Charlie Self says.
Luigi
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On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:28:54 -0500, "Hedley"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>My idea, naive as it may be, is to have doors on everything, with upper and
>lower cabinets running the length of two walls to contain everything. No
>exposed peg board for hanging tools, no racks for clamps, no visible bench
>or hand tools, and no visible shelves.
Have a look at:
http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworking/pages/w00088.asp
You need not cram everything in as much as that, the main thing is
that when it's closed everything is hidden, when it's open everything
is as accessible as if it were on peg board.
>I'm even considering a hiding place for the TS.
Now you're just being silly. How big is this garage that you can
throw away that much space?
>The inevitable scraps in the basement,
>where it sure to cluttered as hell anyway(out of sight, out of mind).
No. Bad idea. This assures that when you might actually use some
they will be a flight of stairs away from you. You'll just cut a
bigger piece instead. Thus the scrap pile will only grow until it
consumes the entire basement and any pets/small children that come
near it. How bout taking the space for the 'TS garage' and using that
to hide the scraps.
>I can almost picture it in my head, and have Visio'ed a few designs, but I
>get this sinking feeling it's a bad idea. Has anyone done something
>similar? As in, could someone walk into your garage/basement/spare bedroom
>shop that has been "put away" and have a hard time recognizing it as such?
We have two long workbenchs that have all drawers/doors under them.
In one lives most of the power tools. Behind the doors are the larger
less often used tools that have cases. In some ways the drawers work
great. There's one drawer where all the drills/bits etc live. One
for the ROS and its discs. It's nice to have a place where all the
related stuff is together and when you're done you can just shove
everything back in and not have to worry about the cord getting
tangled up with other stuff. But on the other hand it often takes
longer to take out and put back the stuff than it does to use it, and
as a result in the middle of a project it doesn't go back in. And I'm
always in the middle of a project...
Some people mentioned putting up a wall, a curtain is another option.
I have a couple hooks that I can hang two shower curtains up with to
split the shop in two when I'm working on gifts for the family. They
let the light through but everything is just a blur. Unless you can
complete all your projects in one day, at some points you're not going
to be able to put everything away.
-Leuf
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:46:23 -0500, "Hedley"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> Cars live outside!!!!
>>
>> When I bought our new home with a garage, the garage became a workshop.
>> We have NO "garage".
>>
>>
>>
>
>Did I mention the winters around Chicago? Demonic.
Harrumph! I spent 26 adult years in Chicagoland. Cars are still
waterproof. Moreover, I'd rather have a car in a garage in Florida,
where we don't have huge chunks of salt laden hard pack falling off
the car in the garage and accelarating corrosion, than leave it out in
Illinois, where you do.
--
LRod
Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
http://www.woodbutcher.net
Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:09:35 -0400, "Lee Michaels"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Bob G." <[email protected]> wrote
>>
>> My Truck (my daily driver )and my wives van are parked on the driveway
>> 24/7 ...only time they ever enter one of the garages is to put them up
>> on the lift for maintance...
>>
>I apologize, I just can't help myself. I read the above remark and got this
>picture.
>
>Uhhhhhh..........., Bob, just how many wives do you have??
...and why do they all have to use the same van. Spring for at least
one vehicle for every two to three wives.....;-)
"Hedley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm about to endeavor to create a wwshop (Contractors TS, bench tools, and
> hand tools only) in the third bay of a 3 car garage, but I don't really
> want it to look like a shop (dusty tools everywhere, cords showing, scraps
> all over the place). I'm afraid the BOSS would have increased anxiety
> levels should the third bay look cluttered all the time, and I really
> don't need her any more anxious than she already is. I could deal with
> it, but let's just say I'd rather not. And I have to admit, not having to
> look at clutter as I pull into the garage when arriving home after a long
> day at the orifice has some appeal to me as well. Anal-retentive is not
> quite my (our) descriptor, but it's pretty darn close.
>
> My idea, naive as it may be, is to have doors on everything, with upper
> and lower cabinets running the length of two walls to contain everything.
> No exposed peg board for hanging tools, no racks for clamps, no visible
> bench or hand tools, and no visible shelves. I'm even considering a
> hiding place for the TS. Yes, aesthetics over convenience, or Style over
> Substance. Foolish, yes, but I want to make the effort. And I'm not too
> concerned with taking the time to drag everything out when I'm on a
> project.
>
> My idea is to build plywood cabinets (sanded pine from the BORG) with pine
> trim, and making a wheeled 8' bench with lower doors to nestle between the
> fixed cabinets. Flip-top lower cabinets for bench tools to hide them
> underneath for the time not in use. The inevitable scraps in the
> basement, where it sure to cluttered as hell anyway(out of sight, out of
> mind). And I'd like to have it all automated, with a remote control to
> retract all the doors... nah, just kidding about the remote part.
>
> I can almost picture it in my head, and have Visio'ed a few designs, but I
> get this sinking feeling it's a bad idea. Has anyone done something
> similar? As in, could someone walk into your garage/basement/spare
> bedroom shop that has been "put away" and have a hard time recognizing it
> as such?
>
> Thank you for your collective wisdom, and I've got thick skin, so call me
> stupid if you think it appropriate.
>
Sounds great, as long as you won't actually be using it.
Hedley (in [email protected]) said:
| I can almost picture it in my head, and have Visio'ed a few
| designs, but I get this sinking feeling it's a bad idea. Has
| anyone done something similar? As in, could someone walk into your
| garage/basement/spare bedroom shop that has been "put away" and
| have a hard time recognizing it as such?
Make concealed storage for the smaller stuff - perhaps even the
benchtop tools, but plan on leaving the larger tools where you use 'em
because that's where they'll end up anyway - and if you force yourself
to move them whenever you need them, it'll become so much of a hassle
that you'll use 'em less and less often until they don't get used at
all...
It's difficult to suggest more without knowing what kind of stuff you
plan to do in your shop.
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/solar.html
I actually want to do something similar, but not quite as anal retentive.
My walkout basement shop must also share space with the lawn tractor,
tiller, pressure washer, garden tools, and the like. I would like to hide
all those things behind something to keep the dust down. I don't believe a
half inch of saw dust on top of a tractor engine is good for it and it's a
PITA to blow it off all the time with the air compressor. I am thinking of
walling off a section of the basement and installing "sliding barn doors".
What's behind the doors is out of sight, out of mind. In the shop itself,
there will be lots of cabinets and drawers for hand and power tools, etc...
Things like the grinder, drill press, and the like will stay out in the
open. Basically, my shop will be "neat" when I need it to be, but I have no
problem leaving it cluttered during the course of a project. I just started
the construction recently and expect it to take a while.
Bob
"Hedley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm about to endeavor to create a wwshop (Contractors TS, bench tools, and
> hand tools only) in the third bay of a 3 car garage, but I don't really
> want it to look like a shop (dusty tools everywhere, cords showing, scraps
> all over the place). I'm afraid the BOSS would have increased anxiety
> levels should the third bay look cluttered all the time, and I really
> don't need her any more anxious than she already is. I could deal with
> it, but let's just say I'd rather not. And I have to admit, not having to
> look at clutter as I pull into the garage when arriving home after a long
> day at the orifice has some appeal to me as well. Anal-retentive is not
> quite my (our) descriptor, but it's pretty darn close.
>
> My idea, naive as it may be, is to have doors on everything, with upper
> and lower cabinets running the length of two walls to contain everything.
> No exposed peg board for hanging tools, no racks for clamps, no visible
> bench or hand tools, and no visible shelves. I'm even considering a
> hiding place for the TS. Yes, aesthetics over convenience, or Style over
> Substance. Foolish, yes, but I want to make the effort. And I'm not too
> concerned with taking the time to drag everything out when I'm on a
> project.
>
> My idea is to build plywood cabinets (sanded pine from the BORG) with pine
> trim, and making a wheeled 8' bench with lower doors to nestle between the
> fixed cabinets. Flip-top lower cabinets for bench tools to hide them
> underneath for the time not in use. The inevitable scraps in the
> basement, where it sure to cluttered as hell anyway(out of sight, out of
> mind). And I'd like to have it all automated, with a remote control to
> retract all the doors... nah, just kidding about the remote part.
>
> I can almost picture it in my head, and have Visio'ed a few designs, but I
> get this sinking feeling it's a bad idea. Has anyone done something
> similar? As in, could someone walk into your garage/basement/spare
> bedroom shop that has been "put away" and have a hard time recognizing it
> as such?
>
> Thank you for your collective wisdom, and I've got thick skin, so call me
> stupid if you think it appropriate.
>
> Hedley
> --And let's please all remember to binge in moderation.
>
>
"Hedley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm about to endeavor to create a wwshop (Contractors TS, bench tools, and
> hand tools only) in the third bay of a 3 car garage, but I don't really
> want it to look like a shop (dusty tools everywhere, cords showing, scraps
> all over the place). I'm afraid the BOSS would have increased anxiety
> levels should the third bay look cluttered all the time, and I really
> don't need her any more anxious than she already is. I could deal with
> it, but let's just say I'd rather not. And I have to admit, not having to
> look at clutter as I pull into the garage
Cars live outside!!!!
When I bought our new home with a garage, the garage became a workshop. We
have NO "garage".
"stoutman" <.@.> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Hedley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I'm about to endeavor to create a wwshop (Contractors TS, bench tools,
>> and
SNIP
>>And I have to admit, not having to look at clutter as I pull into the
>>garage
>
> Cars live outside!!!!
>
> When I bought our new home with a garage, the garage became a workshop.
> We have NO "garage".
>
>
>
Did I mention the winters around Chicago? Demonic.
"Charlie Self" wrote in message
> With a proviso: I've been shooting a lot of antique/vintage cars for
> articles these days, and you do NOT park those babies outside. That
> $445 Model A in top notch restored condition may be worth 30K today,
> but only if the paint is in perfect AACA Grand National Award
> condition, while that $150,000 Cord will lose value as well as luster
> if left outdoors, as will the '34 Jag SS1 (museum condition, first year
> of first model with Jaguar nameplate. Value? You guess, cause I'm
> afraid to).
They're automobiles, not cars ... and they're housed in temples, not
garages.
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