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"Brikp"

25/10/2004 3:38 PM

router table plate questions

OK - I think what I'm looking for is a router mounting plate.

I have a Crapman table for my PC690. I had to get their stupid adapter ring
because of the stupid design, bla bla bla. Its such a pain to move my router
in and out that I avoid using it. I do need to use my router in a table for
my current project. I am thinking of diverting and trying out a better setup
for my router.

Three options come to mind.

1) Build an extension table for my Griz 1023 and mount the router in there.
I could add t-tracks an a fence or use the shopfox fence for some
operations. All I would need is a suitable top and an insert. Does anyone
have a recommendation for an inexpensive insert? Anything like this but less
expensive?
http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/product_details.cfm?&offerings_id=1385

2) Drop the above plate into a built-in workbench.

3) Build or buy a router station.

I am leaning towards option 1. Opinions? Pitfalls? Suggestions?


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patrick conroy

in reply to "Brikp" on 25/10/2004 3:38 PM

25/10/2004 9:04 PM

On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:38:11 -0400, "Brikp" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>
>
>1) Build an extension table for my Griz 1023 and mount the router in there.
>I could add t-tracks an a fence or use the shopfox fence for some
>operations. All I would need is a suitable top and an insert. Does anyone
>have a recommendation for an inexpensive insert? Anything like this but less
>expensive?
>http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/product_details.cfm?&offerings_id=1385

That's what I did for my saw. But I'm using this plate for my 690:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00002242B/103-5083215-2207834?v=glance

Good 'nuff for the 690...

AR

"Al Reid"

in reply to "Brikp" on 25/10/2004 3:38 PM

01/11/2004 12:30 PM


"Brikp" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Thanks Kevin and everyone else for their responses. I picked up the Rousseau
> plate, their template and their fence! I guess I splurged. I installed some
> melamine between the rails of my Griz 1023. I used some heavy gauge aluminum
> angle iron to make a base for the melamine to sit on. Drilled oval holes
> into the angle iron and drilled and tapped the rails to attach. The oval
> hole allow me to adjust the height so its perfectly flush with the TS table.
>
> One note on the Rousseau template and their fence.
>
> The template has holes to mark for the fence bolts. These holes IMO are not
> really where you need them. I wanted to route some 3/8" mortises in 1 1/8"
> stock. The recommended hole position for the fence would not have allowed me
> to set the fence back far enough from the bit to accommodate the 3/8"
> distance from the bit to the fence. What I did was drill two additional
> holes on the opposite side of the template so I could mount the fence
> 'backwards' and far enough out from my bits. Works well.
>
> Better will be to use t-track and loose the carriage bolt setup.
>

That is exactly what I did. After looking at the fence and the instructions, I decided to go with T-Track instad. I got the ones
with the built-in measuring tape. With this setup, I can get about a foot between the centerline of the bit and the fence.

>
> Don't forget to vote. Republicans on Tuesday and Democrats on Wednesday!
>

Bb

"Brikp"

in reply to "Brikp" on 25/10/2004 3:38 PM

01/11/2004 12:22 PM

Thanks Kevin and everyone else for their responses. I picked up the Rousseau
plate, their template and their fence! I guess I splurged. I installed some
melamine between the rails of my Griz 1023. I used some heavy gauge aluminum
angle iron to make a base for the melamine to sit on. Drilled oval holes
into the angle iron and drilled and tapped the rails to attach. The oval
hole allow me to adjust the height so its perfectly flush with the TS table.

One note on the Rousseau template and their fence.

The template has holes to mark for the fence bolts. These holes IMO are not
really where you need them. I wanted to route some 3/8" mortises in 1 1/8"
stock. The recommended hole position for the fence would not have allowed me
to set the fence back far enough from the bit to accommodate the 3/8"
distance from the bit to the fence. What I did was drill two additional
holes on the opposite side of the template so I could mount the fence
'backwards' and far enough out from my bits. Works well.

Better will be to use t-track and loose the carriage bolt setup.

Don't forget to vote. Republicans on Tuesday and Democrats on Wednesday!

"Kevin Singleton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Brikp" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> OK - I think what I'm looking for is a router mounting plate.
>>
>
> I like the Rousseau router plate. I got mine from Woodcraft, several
> years ago. It's got removable concentric rings for bit clearance, a
> starting pin, and very good instructions for use with any router. Once
> you've got the plate, build an extension table for your table saw, and you
> get a free fence. You can make suitable fences for "burying" the bit from
> any stock you have lying around. It's easy to remove the router from the
> table, for hand-held use, and you'll have a very large, stable router base
> with straight edges for following a fence on the stock. It's a very good
> compromise when you only have one router, or even when you have four or
> five!
>
> --
> Kevin
> -=#=-
> www.freerepublic.com
> www.glennbeck.com
> www.factcheck.org
>

KS

"Kevin Singleton"

in reply to "Brikp" on 25/10/2004 3:38 PM

25/10/2004 5:06 PM

"Brikp" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> OK - I think what I'm looking for is a router mounting plate.
>

I like the Rousseau router plate. I got mine from Woodcraft, several years
ago. It's got removable concentric rings for bit clearance, a starting pin,
and very good instructions for use with any router. Once you've got the
plate, build an extension table for your table saw, and you get a free
fence. You can make suitable fences for "burying" the bit from any stock
you have lying around. It's easy to remove the router from the table, for
hand-held use, and you'll have a very large, stable router base with
straight edges for following a fence on the stock. It's a very good
compromise when you only have one router, or even when you have four or
five!

--
Kevin
-=#=-
www.freerepublic.com
www.glennbeck.com
www.factcheck.org

Bi

"Brian in Vancouver, BC"

in reply to "Brikp" on 25/10/2004 3:38 PM

25/10/2004 10:34 PM

"Brikp" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> OK - I think what I'm looking for is a router mounting plate.
> ...
> I am leaning towards option 1. Opinions? Pitfalls? Suggestions?
>
>

I recommend you take a look at mounting plates available from Oak Park (
http://us.oak-park.com/catalogue.html?list=BP-- ) and build your own
table. They also sell complete tables, etc. but appear over-priced to
me. I would never use a table top with the router bolted beneath. The
drop-in top works great for me.

Personally I have the Rousseau, but I think I should have got the Oak
Park unit. The trouble with the rousseau is that you have to drill your
own mounting holes, which is nearly impossible to get "perfectly" centred
(trust me!). The Oak Park units come complete with the holes in place
for various popular routers. I have one of their smaller (7"x7") plates.
They have a number of accessories that interface with their mounting
plates.

Brian

aA

in reply to "Brikp" on 25/10/2004 3:38 PM

25/10/2004 7:17 PM

Oak park has a new plate with vacumn holes in it:

http://www.oak-park.com/index.html

has a photo, their site is not so great.

Alan

b

in reply to "Brikp" on 25/10/2004 3:38 PM

25/10/2004 1:09 PM

On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:38:11 -0400, "Brikp" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>OK - I think what I'm looking for is a router mounting plate.
>
>I have a Crapman table for my PC690. I had to get their stupid adapter ring
>because of the stupid design, bla bla bla. Its such a pain to move my router
>in and out that I avoid using it. I do need to use my router in a table for
>my current project. I am thinking of diverting and trying out a better setup
>for my router.
>
>Three options come to mind.
>
>1) Build an extension table for my Griz 1023 and mount the router in there.
>I could add t-tracks an a fence or use the shopfox fence for some
>operations. All I would need is a suitable top and an insert. Does anyone
>have a recommendation for an inexpensive insert? Anything like this but less
>expensive?
>http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/product_details.cfm?&offerings_id=1385
>
>2) Drop the above plate into a built-in workbench.
>
>3) Build or buy a router station.
>
>I am leaning towards option 1. Opinions? Pitfalls? Suggestions?
>


whatever scrap 3/4" sheetgoods you have around.

screw the router base underneath.

plunge your bit through to make a zero clearance hole.

clamp it to the bench.

get on with whatever you were making.


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