RH

Rob H.

09/01/2014 1:04 AM

What is it? Set 527

I need some help with the first two items this week:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/

Larger images:

http://imgur.com/a/2H0z3


Rob


This topic has 47 replies

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Erik

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

09/01/2014 2:34 AM

On 1/9/14, 1:04 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with the first two items this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/2H0z3
>
>
> Rob
>

I bet 3073 turns out to be some sort of cable (or similar) tension
measuring device.

Erik

Ww

"Wild_Bill"

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

10/01/2014 1:53 PM

3076.. I have a blade brazer similar to the one pictured.


The one I have is larger, has a 120VAC power cord and a selector switch for
Off-Lo-Med-Hi on the side.
I wasn't able to see any electrical isolation between one side holder and
the case, in this week's example.

An electrical model contains a large step-down transformer with the
secondary winding typically being only a couple of wraps around the primary
winding, so the secondary voltage is very low (similar to a resistance
welder).

The projecting arms (to the left and right) align the back edge of the blade
in a straight line, and the 2 clamps hold the prepared ends of the bandsaw
blade in close contact.
A small strip of silver foil was placed in the repair spot, and when the
handle was pulled down, the transformer was energized and an anvil of sorts
integrated into the handle pressed down to apply pressure to the splice to
maintain the proper blade thickness.

--
WB
.........


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >3073)
>> ... a precision measuring instrument.
>
>
> Sounds like a good term for it.
>
>
>
>>3074) Sorry -- without the ability to hold it in my hands and see what
>> moves where and how, I've really got no guess as to what its
>> function is.
>>
>> I think that it is missing some part near the top back in the
>> forth photo.
>>
>> It is obvious that it is screwed to a bench, and the disc/knob at
>> the bottom could become a presser plate to hold something down
>> to the bench surface -- but that does not explain the upper
>> parts of it at all to me.
>
>
> These photos were sent from Australia, I was thinking it might be a
> salesman's
> sample for a larger press but maybe this is the actual size for the
> device.
>
>
>>3075) Left hand end is a bottle opener.
>>
>> The right hand end might work with some kind of beer tap and/or
>> keg.
>
>
> The right end of the tool is ice related.
>
>
>
>>3076) Maybe for cutting the ends of bandsaw blades, and then holding
>> them with the proper overlap so they can be brazed into a
>> complete loop?
>
>
> Good guess!
>
>
>>3077) Looks like it might be used for cutting the end of a wooden
>> dowel to produce a clean end.
>>
>> And -- it looks like the ridges in the base plate are spaced at
>> 1" intervals. Not sure why the base plate needs to be so heavy.
>>
>>3078) For holding balls from a bingo (or other gambling) set?
>
>
> 3078 is for use by an outdoorsman.
>
>
>
>
>
>

SM

Stormin Mormon

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

10/01/2014 8:13 AM

On 1/10/2014 2:42 AM, Bill wrote:
> Marc Dashevsky wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>> says...
>>> DoN. Nichols wrote:
>>>> Posting from the usenet newsgroup rec.crafts.metalworking as
>>>> always. (Which of the three cross-posted newsgroups are *you* posting
>>>> from?)
>>> Why do you feel the need to continually post this comment? Everyone
>>> participating in this thread is doing so in a community way. What
>>> does it
>>> matter where you are posting from and why the emphasis on where the the
>>> origianl poster? Geeze - just post your damned ideas.
>> I simply cannot grasp why Don's comment generates these responses.
>
> I don't understand troll-like behavior either.

Posting from my desk top PC in the living
room as always.

I'm also not understanding. But, that's OK.
Lot that I don't understand.


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.
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
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.

wn

woodchucker

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

09/01/2014 12:05 PM

On 1/9/2014 8:06 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>> I bet 3073 turns out to be some sort of cable (or similar) tension
>> measuring device.
>>
>> Erik
>
>
> That's what I was thinking but I couldn't find any others like it on the web.
> Below is more information on it from the owner.
>
> "There are no markings of any kind. The interface between the lever that
> operates
> the cutters and the dial is missing. There is a small screw in roughly the
> center
> and beneath the lever that operates the cutters. There is a hole in the center
> shaft that moves the indicator on the dial."
>
I'm thinking 3073 is for measuring out string or wire, nothing more than
that. I think the string or wire is wrapped around the

3076 is tough without a larger image of the anvil secion, but could this
be for welding band saw blades, or crimping two flat bands together?


--
Jeff

SM

Stormin Mormon

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

11/01/2014 9:45 AM

On 1/10/2014 8:55 PM, DoN. Nichols wrote:
> On 2014-01-10, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:

>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2014/01/set-527.html#answers
>
> And for 3078 -- when you said "an outdoorsman", I was thinking
> that you were implying that it was to be *used* outdoors. I see from
> the later photo added that it was used with full brass shotshells, not
> the later paper and then plastic ones. Though I guess that it could be
> used for all.
>
> Enjoy,
> DoN.

In the post modern USA, are we still allowed
to have guns? I'm in NYS, for example. I don't
think proletariat are allowed guns, here.

--
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Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
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.

MD

Marc Dashevsky

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

10/01/2014 12:12 AM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>
> DoN. Nichols wrote:
> > On 2014-01-09, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> I need some help with the first two items this week:
> >>
> >> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
> >>
> >> Larger images:
> >>
> >> http://imgur.com/a/2H0z3
> >
> > Posting from the usenet newsgroup rec.crafts.metalworking as
> > always. (Which of the three cross-posted newsgroups are *you* posting
> > from?)
>
> Why do you feel the need to continually post this comment? Everyone
> participating in this thread is doing so in a community way. What does it
> matter where you are posting from and why the emphasis on where the the
> origianl poster? Geeze - just post your damned ideas.

I simply cannot grasp why Don's comment generates these responses.

MD

Marc Dashevsky

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

11/01/2014 2:12 AM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>
> DoN. Nichols wrote:
> > On 2014-01-10, Mike Marlow <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> DoN. Nichols wrote:
> >>> On 2014-01-09, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> I need some help with the first two items this week:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
> >>>>
> >>>> Larger images:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://imgur.com/a/2H0z3
> >>> Posting from the usenet newsgroup rec.crafts.metalworking as
> >>> always. (Which of the three cross-posted newsgroups are *you* posting
> >>> from?)
> >> Why do you feel the need to continually post this comment? Everyone
> >> participating in this thread is doing so in a community way. What does it
> >> matter where you are posting from and why the emphasis on where the the
> >> origianl poster? Geeze - just post your damned ideas.
> > I am interested in which newsgroup has the greatest number of
> > correct identifications for each class of objects. I can't develop that
> > information until I know where people are posting from -- since there is
> > no clue in the headers. I provide the information by way of example,
> > hoping that others will do the same.
> >
> > I've expanded the wording because of some who post saying "from
> > my computer" or something similarly uninformative.
> >
> > Enjoy,
> > DoN.
>
> Maybe we should have a short vote on whether we think your idea is any
> good before you impose it on us?

Impose? You must be very susceptible to suggestion.
Ignore it if you do not wish to do it.

> I have to side with Mike Marlow on this one.

Ll

Leon

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

12/01/2014 9:55 AM

On 1/9/2014 9:36 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> DoN. Nichols wrote:
>> On 2014-01-09, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I need some help with the first two items this week:
>>>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>> Larger images:
>>>
>>> http://imgur.com/a/2H0z3
>>
>> Posting from the usenet newsgroup rec.crafts.metalworking as
>> always. (Which of the three cross-posted newsgroups are *you* posting
>> from?)
>
> Why do you feel the need to continually post this comment? Everyone
> participating in this thread is doing so in a community way. What does it
> matter where you are posting from and why the emphasis on where the the
> origianl poster? Geeze - just post your damned ideas.
>


Probably for the same reason that you always end your with

-Mike-
[email protected]


Now actually I bet he is making that comment to bring attention to not
cross post and pay attention to the group you intend your response to go to.

Ll

Leon

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

12/01/2014 9:58 AM

On 1/10/2014 7:04 PM, Bill wrote:
> DoN. Nichols wrote:
>> On 2014-01-10, Mike Marlow <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> DoN. Nichols wrote:
>>>> On 2014-01-09, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> I need some help with the first two items this week:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> Larger images:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://imgur.com/a/2H0z3
>>>> Posting from the usenet newsgroup rec.crafts.metalworking as
>>>> always. (Which of the three cross-posted newsgroups are *you* posting
>>>> from?)
>>> Why do you feel the need to continually post this comment? Everyone
>>> participating in this thread is doing so in a community way. What
>>> does it
>>> matter where you are posting from and why the emphasis on where the the
>>> origianl poster? Geeze - just post your damned ideas.
>> I am interested in which newsgroup has the greatest number of
>> correct identifications for each class of objects. I can't develop that
>> information until I know where people are posting from -- since there is
>> no clue in the headers. I provide the information by way of example,
>> hoping that others will do the same.
>>
>> I've expanded the wording because of some who post saying "from
>> my computer" or something similarly uninformative.
>>
>> Enjoy,
>> DoN.
>
> Maybe we should have a short vote on whether we think your idea is any
> good before you impose it on us?
> I have to side with Mike Marlow on this one.
>


Now be nice. We could also call for a vote to how many times that "you"
are the only responder to your own posts. ;~)

It's his sig line and Mike did not understand it.



h

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

10/01/2014 6:19 PM


>No luck yet identifying the first two items, answers for the other four can be
>seen here:
>
>http://55tools.blogspot.com/2014/01/set-527.html#answers
>
>
>Rob


3074 - any chance that it's for harness making .. ?
just a wild guess - the photos don't show me enough.
John T.



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Stormin Mormon

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

09/01/2014 11:16 AM

On 1/9/2014 8:15 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
>> 3075, I suspect a combination paint can opener,
>> and bottle opener.
>
>
> Bottle opener is certainly correct but the other end is not an opener at all,
> it's
> actually used to remove something.
>
Crown caps?
(yes, being a bit obtuse, here.)

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Learn about Jesus
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"shazzbat"

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

09/01/2014 9:22 AM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I need some help with the first two items this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/2H0z3
>
>
> Rob
>

3073 is the clock used on the first series of Countdown. Or it may be for
measuring something, like SWG?

3075 is a paint tin opener.

3076 an embossing stamp?

3077 a cigar cutter?

Steve


AT

Alexander Thesoso

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

09/01/2014 6:31 AM

3073 This looks like a dial-indicator thickness measuring device.
Probably for something like paper or fiber.
It is missing a thread wrapped around the cylinder on the pointer axis
and terminated on the nearby screw on the lever. The test object goes
between the blades at the top of the first two pictures. The pivot near
the right-hand blade in the third picture gives a large mechanical
advantage to the thread attachment. What I don't see is the return
spring, but it may be a spiral under the face.


On 1/9/2014 4:04 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with the first two items this week:

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

09/01/2014 5:03 AM


>3073 is the clock used on the first series of Countdown. Or it may be for
>measuring something, like SWG?


I'm still not sure about this one, and I have no idea what SWG is.


>3075 is a paint tin opener.
>
>3076 an embossing stamp?


Neither of these.



>3077 a cigar cutter?


Correct, but there is a further description that would more accurately identify
the whole thing.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

09/01/2014 5:06 AM


>I bet 3073 turns out to be some sort of cable (or similar) tension
>measuring device.
>
>Erik


That's what I was thinking but I couldn't find any others like it on the web.
Below is more information on it from the owner.

"There are no markings of any kind. The interface between the lever that
operates
the cutters and the dial is missing. There is a small screw in roughly the
center
and beneath the lever that operates the cutters. There is a hole in the center
shaft that moves the indicator on the dial."

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

09/01/2014 5:15 AM


>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/


>3075, I suspect a combination paint can opener,
>and bottle opener.


Bottle opener is certainly correct but the other end is not an opener at all,
it's
actually used to remove something.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

09/01/2014 5:19 AM

In article <[email protected]>, Alexander Thesoso says...
>
>3073 This looks like a dial-indicator thickness measuring device.
>Probably for something like paper or fiber.
>It is missing a thread wrapped around the cylinder on the pointer axis
>and terminated on the nearby screw on the lever. The test object goes
>between the blades at the top of the first two pictures. The pivot near
>the right-hand blade in the third picture gives a large mechanical
>advantage to the thread attachment. What I don't see is the return
>spring, but it may be a spiral under the face.


I'll pass along your suggestion to the owner and ask if the moving blade is
spring
returned.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

09/01/2014 12:53 PM


>3076 is tough without a larger image of the anvil secion, but could this
>be for welding band saw blades, or crimping two flat bands together?


Correct, the patent is titled "Improvements in electric soldering apparatus for
soldering thin steel bands such as band saws and the like"

BB

Bill

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

09/01/2014 4:11 PM

If the dial of the first one glows in the dark (i.e. contains Radium),
then I would guess "dark room timer" (for photography).

Bill

BB

Bill

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

09/01/2014 4:18 PM

Bill wrote:
> If the dial of the first one glows in the dark (i.e. contains Radium),
> then I would guess "dark room timer" (for photography).
>
> Bill


Bill, Surely this is wrong. It must be a "micrometer"?

BB

Bill

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

09/01/2014 4:56 PM

Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with the first two items this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/2H0z3
>
>
> Rob
>

3074. Guess: Vise used in a factory. What I thought at first was a
leveler, is apparently part of the gripping mechanism. The handle that
opens, swings, and locks down, is too.
Maybe it's related to the railroad (WAG)? This one is Great--whatever
it is!!!

Bill

BB

Bill

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

09/01/2014 5:17 PM

Bill wrote:
> Rob H. wrote:
>> I need some help with the first two items this week:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Larger images:
>>
>> http://imgur.com/a/2H0z3
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
>
> 3074. Guess: Vise used in a factory. What I thought at first was a
> leveler, is apparently part of the gripping mechanism. The handle that
> opens, swings, and locks down, is too.

I refine my guess to "multi-purpose" welders (?) vise. It will secure
two pieces of stock at the top--or by securing it in other ways.

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

09/01/2014 10:36 PM

DoN. Nichols wrote:
> On 2014-01-09, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I need some help with the first two items this week:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Larger images:
>>
>> http://imgur.com/a/2H0z3
>
> Posting from the usenet newsgroup rec.crafts.metalworking as
> always. (Which of the three cross-posted newsgroups are *you* posting
> from?)

Why do you feel the need to continually post this comment? Everyone
participating in this thread is doing so in a community way. What does it
matter where you are posting from and why the emphasis on where the the
origianl poster? Geeze - just post your damned ideas.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

BB

Bill

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

09/01/2014 11:07 PM


#3074: I up my bet to "Rivet Setting Tool (& Vise)".

Bill

BB

Bill

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

10/01/2014 2:42 AM

Marc Dashevsky wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>> DoN. Nichols wrote:
>>> On 2014-01-09, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I need some help with the first two items this week:
>>>>
>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>> Larger images:
>>>>
>>>> http://imgur.com/a/2H0z3
>>> Posting from the usenet newsgroup rec.crafts.metalworking as
>>> always. (Which of the three cross-posted newsgroups are *you* posting
>>> from?)
>> Why do you feel the need to continually post this comment? Everyone
>> participating in this thread is doing so in a community way. What does it
>> matter where you are posting from and why the emphasis on where the the
>> origianl poster? Geeze - just post your damned ideas.
> I simply cannot grasp why Don's comment generates these responses.

I don't understand troll-like behavior either.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

10/01/2014 3:11 AM

>3073)
> ... a precision measuring instrument.


Sounds like a good term for it.



>3074) Sorry -- without the ability to hold it in my hands and see what
> moves where and how, I've really got no guess as to what its
> function is.
>
> I think that it is missing some part near the top back in the
> forth photo.
>
> It is obvious that it is screwed to a bench, and the disc/knob at
> the bottom could become a presser plate to hold something down
> to the bench surface -- but that does not explain the upper
> parts of it at all to me.


These photos were sent from Australia, I was thinking it might be a salesman's
sample for a larger press but maybe this is the actual size for the device.


>3075) Left hand end is a bottle opener.
>
> The right hand end might work with some kind of beer tap and/or
> keg.


The right end of the tool is ice related.



>3076) Maybe for cutting the ends of bandsaw blades, and then holding
> them with the proper overlap so they can be brazed into a
> complete loop?


Good guess!


>3077) Looks like it might be used for cutting the end of a wooden
> dowel to produce a clean end.
>
> And -- it looks like the ridges in the base plate are spaced at
> 1" intervals. Not sure why the base plate needs to be so heavy.
>
>3078) For holding balls from a bingo (or other gambling) set?


3078 is for use by an outdoorsman.





RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

10/01/2014 1:10 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Wild_Bill says...
>
>3076.. I have a blade brazer similar to the one pictured.
>
>
>The one I have is larger, has a 120VAC power cord and a selector switch for
>Off-Lo-Med-Hi on the side.
>I wasn't able to see any electrical isolation between one side holder and
>the case, in this week's example.


Thanks for the information, seems pretty similar to the one on my site.

No luck yet identifying the first two items, answers for the other four can be
seen here:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2014/01/set-527.html#answers


Rob

BB

Bill

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

10/01/2014 8:04 PM

DoN. Nichols wrote:
> On 2014-01-10, Mike Marlow <[email protected]> wrote:
>> DoN. Nichols wrote:
>>> On 2014-01-09, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I need some help with the first two items this week:
>>>>
>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>> Larger images:
>>>>
>>>> http://imgur.com/a/2H0z3
>>> Posting from the usenet newsgroup rec.crafts.metalworking as
>>> always. (Which of the three cross-posted newsgroups are *you* posting
>>> from?)
>> Why do you feel the need to continually post this comment? Everyone
>> participating in this thread is doing so in a community way. What does it
>> matter where you are posting from and why the emphasis on where the the
>> origianl poster? Geeze - just post your damned ideas.
> I am interested in which newsgroup has the greatest number of
> correct identifications for each class of objects. I can't develop that
> information until I know where people are posting from -- since there is
> no clue in the headers. I provide the information by way of example,
> hoping that others will do the same.
>
> I've expanded the wording because of some who post saying "from
> my computer" or something similarly uninformative.
>
> Enjoy,
> DoN.

Maybe we should have a short vote on whether we think your idea is any
good before you impose it on us?
I have to side with Mike Marlow on this one.

PK

"Phil Kangas"

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

10/01/2014 9:01 PM


"Bill" answered to this:
>> I am interested in which newsgroup has the
>> greatest number of
>> correct identifications for each class of
>> objects. I can't develop that
>> information until I know where people are
>> posting from -- since there is
>> no clue in the headers. I provide the
>> information by way of example,
>> hoping that others will do the same.
>>
>> I've expanded the wording because of some who
>> post saying "from
>> my computer" or something similarly
>> uninformative.
>>
>> Enjoy,
>> DoN.
>
> Maybe we should have a short vote on whether we
> think your idea is any good before you impose it
> on us?
> I have to side with Mike Marlow on this one.
> Bill
>

I agree with Mike also. Why? Because not everyone
posts to all
three groups therefore you will have to visit each
group
individually to get your data. That's a waste of
time, IMHO.
pdk


tu

technomaNge

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

10/01/2014 10:29 PM

On 01/10/2014 08:01 PM, Phil Kangas wrote:
> "Bill" answered to this:
>>> I am interested in which newsgroup has the
>>> greatest number of
>>> correct identifications for each class of
>>> objects.

Who the fuck cares about the n/g?

Do you know what the item is or not?

If you do, post it. If not, read the other posts.



technomaNge
--
Sheesh!

BB

Bill

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

11/01/2014 12:21 AM

DoN. Nichols wrote:
> On 2014-01-11, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>> DoN. Nichols wrote:
>>> On 2014-01-10, Mike Marlow <[email protected]> wrote:
> [ ... ]
>
>>>> Why do you feel the need to continually post this comment? Everyone
>>>> participating in this thread is doing so in a community way. What does it
>>>> matter where you are posting from and why the emphasis on where the the
>>>> origianl poster? Geeze - just post your damned ideas.
>>> I am interested in which newsgroup has the greatest number of
>>> correct identifications for each class of objects. I can't develop that
>>> information until I know where people are posting from -- since there is
>>> no clue in the headers. I provide the information by way of example,
>>> hoping that others will do the same.
>>>
>>> I've expanded the wording because of some who post saying "from
>>> my computer" or something similarly uninformative.
>>>
>>> Enjoy,
>>> DoN.
>> Maybe we should have a short vote on whether we think your idea is any
>> good before you impose it on us?
>> I have to side with Mike Marlow on this one.
> Well ... I'm hardly *imposing* it. I am in no position to force
> anyone to comply (nor would I *want* to). How much "power" I have is
> indicated by how many others indicate which newsgroup they are posting
> from. :-)

Yes, the "P" word. Funny that you should mention it...

>
> Mostly, I expect that people in specific newsgroups would be
> more likely to get certain categories of puzzle photos properly
> identified. For example, I am not a woodworker, and don't expect to get
> many of the more esoteric woodworking tools correct. But I am a
> metalworker (hobby level), and am a retired electronics technician (but
> there is no cross-posting to the electronics newsgroups).
>
> I am particularly interested in seeing how many of those who
> find this in the puzzles newsgroup (and who do not read the other
> newsgroups) get various technical items correctly.
>
> Enjoy,
> DoN.
>

BB

Bill

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

11/01/2014 3:28 AM

Marc Dashevsky wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>> DoN. Nichols wrote:
>>> On 2014-01-10, Mike Marlow <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> DoN. Nichols wrote:
>>>>> On 2014-01-09, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> I need some help with the first two items this week:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Larger images:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://imgur.com/a/2H0z3
>>>>> Posting from the usenet newsgroup rec.crafts.metalworking as
>>>>> always. (Which of the three cross-posted newsgroups are *you* posting
>>>>> from?)
>>>> Why do you feel the need to continually post this comment? Everyone
>>>> participating in this thread is doing so in a community way. What does it
>>>> matter where you are posting from and why the emphasis on where the the
>>>> origianl poster? Geeze - just post your damned ideas.
>>> I am interested in which newsgroup has the greatest number of
>>> correct identifications for each class of objects. I can't develop that
>>> information until I know where people are posting from -- since there is
>>> no clue in the headers. I provide the information by way of example,
>>> hoping that others will do the same.
>>>
>>> I've expanded the wording because of some who post saying "from
>>> my computer" or something similarly uninformative.
>>>
>>> Enjoy,
>>> DoN.
>> Maybe we should have a short vote on whether we think your idea is any
>> good before you impose it on us?
> Impose? You must be very susceptible to suggestion.
> Ignore it if you do not wish to do it.


Just a coincidence, I suppose, that you and ol' DoN have the same
newsgroup provider?
Go "P" in someone else's pool.


>
>> I have to side with Mike Marlow on this one.
>

BB

Bill

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

11/01/2014 3:37 AM

Bill wrote:
> Marc Dashevsky wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>> says...
>>> DoN. Nichols wrote:
>>>> On 2014-01-10, Mike Marlow <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> DoN. Nichols wrote:
>>>>>> On 2014-01-09, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> I need some help with the first two items this week:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Larger images:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://imgur.com/a/2H0z3
>>>>>> Posting from the usenet newsgroup rec.crafts.metalworking as
>>>>>> always. (Which of the three cross-posted newsgroups are *you*
>>>>>> posting
>>>>>> from?)
>>>>> Why do you feel the need to continually post this comment? Everyone
>>>>> participating in this thread is doing so in a community way. What
>>>>> does it
>>>>> matter where you are posting from and why the emphasis on where
>>>>> the the
>>>>> origianl poster? Geeze - just post your damned ideas.
>>>> I am interested in which newsgroup has the greatest number of
>>>> correct identifications for each class of objects. I can't develop
>>>> that
>>>> information until I know where people are posting from -- since
>>>> there is
>>>> no clue in the headers. I provide the information by way of example,
>>>> hoping that others will do the same.
>>>>
>>>> I've expanded the wording because of some who post saying "from
>>>> my computer" or something similarly uninformative.
>>>>
>>>> Enjoy,
>>>> DoN.
>>> Maybe we should have a short vote on whether we think your idea is any
>>> good before you impose it on us?
>> Impose? You must be very susceptible to suggestion.
>> Ignore it if you do not wish to do it.
>
>
> Just a coincidence, I suppose, that you and ol' DoN have the same
> newsgroup provider?
>
I may be mistaken, but lets be nice (anyway).

Bill

>
>
>>
>>> I have to side with Mike Marlow on this one.
>>
>

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

11/01/2014 2:25 PM

In article <[email protected]>, mbuck
says...
>
>Bingo...exactly right. Here's one on ebay.
>
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Dial-Gauge-Tool-1887-Brass-360-Degrees-
Watchmakers-Bench-Top-Favorite-/350899298480
>
>Its a watchmaker's tool. Here's a closeup photo:
>
>http://s3.amazonaws.com/thmb.inkfrog.com/pix/AmFj1z/1_012.JPG/450/0


Excellent! Great job on finding the answer, I'll send the links to the owner,
I'm
sure they will be happy to get this device identified.

Rob

BB

Bill

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

12/01/2014 2:16 AM

DoN. Nichols wrote:
> On 2014-01-11, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Marc Dashevsky wrote:
>>> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>>>> DoN. Nichols wrote:
> [ ... ]
>
>>>>> I've expanded the wording because of some who post saying "from
>>>>> my computer" or something similarly uninformative.
> [ ... ]
>
>>>> Maybe we should have a short vote on whether we think your idea is any
>>>> good before you impose it on us?
>>> Impose? You must be very susceptible to suggestion.
>>> Ignore it if you do not wish to do it.
>>
>>
>> If you know enough to note the news server, you should know
>> enough to read the headers and tell whether or not I have a "sock
>> puppet" (I don't -- but prove it to yourself, if you care).
>>
>> DoN.
>>


Just like people have it in their DNA to avoid people with symptoms of
an illness, maybe it triggers a reaction from some when they see people
acting in ways that suggest that they may not have the interests of "the
herd" in mind. I'm not mentioning any names or other details. It's just
a thought.

Bill

BB

Bill

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

12/01/2014 7:10 PM

Leon wrote:
> On 1/10/2014 7:04 PM, Bill wrote:
>> DoN. Nichols wrote:
>>> On 2014-01-10, Mike Marlow <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> DoN. Nichols wrote:
>>>>> On 2014-01-09, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> I need some help with the first two items this week:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Larger images:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://imgur.com/a/2H0z3
>>>>> Posting from the usenet newsgroup rec.crafts.metalworking as
>>>>> always. (Which of the three cross-posted newsgroups are *you*
>>>>> posting
>>>>> from?)
>>>> Why do you feel the need to continually post this comment? Everyone
>>>> participating in this thread is doing so in a community way. What
>>>> does it
>>>> matter where you are posting from and why the emphasis on where the
>>>> the
>>>> origianl poster? Geeze - just post your damned ideas.
>>> I am interested in which newsgroup has the greatest number of
>>> correct identifications for each class of objects. I can't develop
>>> that
>>> information until I know where people are posting from -- since
>>> there is
>>> no clue in the headers. I provide the information by way of example,
>>> hoping that others will do the same.
>>>
>>> I've expanded the wording because of some who post saying "from
>>> my computer" or something similarly uninformative.
>>>
>>> Enjoy,
>>> DoN.
>>
>> Maybe we should have a short vote on whether we think your idea is any
>> good before you impose it on us?
>> I have to side with Mike Marlow on this one.
>>
>
>
> Now be nice. We could also call for a vote to how many times that
> "you" are the only responder to your own posts. ;~)

The only thing I can think of is that if I replied to them, I must
have found what I was reading to be provocative or intriguing? ; )


>
> It's his sig line and Mike did not understand it.
>
>
>
>

SM

Stormin Mormon

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

11/01/2014 9:42 AM

On 1/10/2014 4:10 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>
> No luck yet identifying the first two items, answers for the other four can be
> seen here:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2014/01/set-527.html#answers
>
>
> Rob
>

I'm sad that so many wonderful items, no one
can remember what they are, or were. It seems
such a loss.

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Stormin Mormon

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

09/01/2014 6:43 AM

On 1/9/2014 4:04 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with the first two items this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/2H0z3
>
>
> Rob
>
Posting from my desk top PC in the living
room, as always.

3073, my first thought was a meat scale for a
butcher shop. Looking more, I'm less sure.
3074, totally no clue.
3075, I suspect a combination paint can opener,
and bottle opener. Pepsi cola hits the spot....
(Yes, i can finish the jingle...)
3076, totally no clue
3077, my first thought was paper cutter, with the
handle and blade missing. Looking closer, it
appears to be some kind of cutter, but needs
a longer handle for leverage.
3078, no clue.

Thanks, it's amazing how much technology is out there,
and we've collectively forgotten so much.


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"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

10/01/2014 2:57 AM

On 2014-01-09, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need some help with the first two items this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/2H0z3

Posting from the usenet newsgroup rec.crafts.metalworking as
always. (Which of the three cross-posted newsgroups are *you* posting
from?)

3073) A one-off measuring device -- apparently from 0.000" to 0.100".

Made by a skilled toolmaker -- likely for his own use, as there
is no brand or maker's name visible. The dial is hand lettered
by someone with a really good hand. And it looks like the kind
of enameled dial face that a good watch would have, which
suggests that this was made by a skilled watchmaker. The
decorative feet were another nice touch.

There appears to be a part missing -- a fine strand of steel
spring stock going from around the central cylindrical part to
the nearby screw in the arm.

There is likely either a spring under the dial to return the
hand to the zero position, or the spring or wire which went
around the cylinder would then continue to a small extension
spring to provide the return force.

It was used on the workbench, with one hand opening the jaws by
moving the projecting (through the curved slot) knob at the end
of the lever to the fully open position, while the other hand
placed the item to be measured between the jaws prior to
releasing the lever to allow spring force to close it.

I doubt that you will find another of these to compare it to, so
just work by the obvious function of the device -- a precision
measuring instrument.

3074) Sorry -- without the ability to hold it in my hands and see what
moves where and how, I've really got no guess as to what its
function is.

I think that it is missing some part near the top back in the
forth photo.

It is obvious that it is screwed to a bench, and the disc/knob at
the bottom could become a presser plate to hold something down
to the bench surface -- but that does not explain the upper
parts of it at all to me.

3075) Left hand end is a bottle opener.

The right hand end might work with some kind of beer tap and/or
keg.

3076) Some kind of early press for forming coffee into pucks?

Or -- for cutting something which comes in ribbon form?

Again -- not enough views, and not enough hands-on

Maybe for cutting the ends of bandsaw blades, and then holding
them with the proper overlap so they can be brazed into a
complete loop?

And it appears to be sitting on a gas stove, but I suspect that
has no relationship to what it does.

3077) Looks like it might be used for cutting the end of a wooden
dowel to produce a clean end.

And -- it looks like the ridges in the base plate are spaced at
1" intervals. Not sure why the base plate needs to be so heavy.

3078) For holding balls from a bingo (or other gambling) set?

Now to post and then see what others have suggested.

Enjoy,
DoN.


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"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

11/01/2014 1:05 AM

On 2014-01-10, Mike Marlow <[email protected]> wrote:
> DoN. Nichols wrote:
>> On 2014-01-09, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I need some help with the first two items this week:
>>>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>> Larger images:
>>>
>>> http://imgur.com/a/2H0z3
>>
>> Posting from the usenet newsgroup rec.crafts.metalworking as
>> always. (Which of the three cross-posted newsgroups are *you* posting
>> from?)
>
> Why do you feel the need to continually post this comment? Everyone
> participating in this thread is doing so in a community way. What does it
> matter where you are posting from and why the emphasis on where the the
> origianl poster? Geeze - just post your damned ideas.

I am interested in which newsgroup has the greatest number of
correct identifications for each class of objects. I can't develop that
information until I know where people are posting from -- since there is
no clue in the headers. I provide the information by way of example,
hoping that others will do the same.

I've expanded the wording because of some who post saying "from
my computer" or something similarly uninformative.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

11/01/2014 1:12 AM

On 2014-01-10, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
>>3073)
>> ... a precision measuring instrument.
>
>
> Sounds like a good term for it.

And at least one other came up with a similar description of its
operation.

>>3074) Sorry -- without the ability to hold it in my hands and see what
>> moves where and how, I've really got no guess as to what its
>> function is.
>>
>> I think that it is missing some part near the top back in the
>> forth photo.
>>
>> It is obvious that it is screwed to a bench, and the disc/knob at
>> the bottom could become a presser plate to hold something down
>> to the bench surface -- but that does not explain the upper
>> parts of it at all to me.
>
>
> These photos were sent from Australia, I was thinking it might be a salesman's
> sample for a larger press but maybe this is the actual size for the device.

Well ... in Austrailia, there is little chance that I could put
my hands on it for an examination, then. :-)

>>3075) Left hand end is a bottle opener.
>>
>> The right hand end might work with some kind of beer tap and/or
>> keg.
>
>
> The right end of the tool is ice related.

Scraping the ice from block to go into a drink, perhaps?

>>3076) Maybe for cutting the ends of bandsaw blades, and then holding
>> them with the proper overlap so they can be brazed into a
>> complete loop?
>
>
> Good guess!

The shape of the guides and clamps was what led me to that
guess.

[ ... ]

>>3078) For holding balls from a bingo (or other gambling) set?
>
>
> 3078 is for use by an outdoorsman.

Hmm ... shotgun shells? Perhaps on a table during clay pigeon
shooting, perhaps? Two rows, a double-barreled shotgun and it might
be fairly convenient for quick reloads. I don't really know the proper
diameters of the various gauges of shells, but that might work.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

11/01/2014 1:55 AM

On 2014-01-10, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Wild_Bill says...
>>
>>3076.. I have a blade brazer similar to the one pictured.
>>
>>
>>The one I have is larger, has a 120VAC power cord and a selector switch for
>>Off-Lo-Med-Hi on the side.
>>I wasn't able to see any electrical isolation between one side holder and
>>the case, in this week's example.
>
>
> Thanks for the information, seems pretty similar to the one on my site.

I agree that I can't see any kind of electrical insulation, so
it might be that it was heated by a torch instead.

And in operation, it is somewhat similar to the bandsaw blade
welders -- except that it uses silver solder (brazing) instead of
resistance welding -- and thus requires overlapping surfaces instead of
placing the ends of the bandsaw blade against each other and pumping
lots of current through them to melt the ends and fuse them. (After
that, they need a grinder to clear off the flash which oozes out. :-)

> No luck yet identifying the first two items, answers for the other four can be
> seen here:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2014/01/set-527.html#answers

As for 3075 -- the old ice trays which I knew had built-in
levers to break the ice cubes free of the dividers. I would guess that
you could get more trays into a given freezer compartment if the lever
were external.

And for 3078 -- when you said "an outdoorsman", I was thinking
that you were implying that it was to be *used* outdoors. I see from
the later photo added that it was used with full brass shotshells, not
the later paper and then plastic ones. Though I guess that it could be
used for all.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

11/01/2014 5:03 AM

On 2014-01-11, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
> DoN. Nichols wrote:
>> On 2014-01-10, Mike Marlow <[email protected]> wrote:

[ ... ]

>>> Why do you feel the need to continually post this comment? Everyone
>>> participating in this thread is doing so in a community way. What does it
>>> matter where you are posting from and why the emphasis on where the the
>>> origianl poster? Geeze - just post your damned ideas.
>> I am interested in which newsgroup has the greatest number of
>> correct identifications for each class of objects. I can't develop that
>> information until I know where people are posting from -- since there is
>> no clue in the headers. I provide the information by way of example,
>> hoping that others will do the same.
>>
>> I've expanded the wording because of some who post saying "from
>> my computer" or something similarly uninformative.
>>
>> Enjoy,
>> DoN.
>
> Maybe we should have a short vote on whether we think your idea is any
> good before you impose it on us?
> I have to side with Mike Marlow on this one.

Well ... I'm hardly *imposing* it. I am in no position to force
anyone to comply (nor would I *want* to). How much "power" I have is
indicated by how many others indicate which newsgroup they are posting
from. :-)

Mostly, I expect that people in specific newsgroups would be
more likely to get certain categories of puzzle photos properly
identified. For example, I am not a woodworker, and don't expect to get
many of the more esoteric woodworking tools correct. But I am a
metalworker (hobby level), and am a retired electronics technician (but
there is no cross-posting to the electronics newsgroups).

I am particularly interested in seeing how many of those who
find this in the puzzles newsgroup (and who do not read the other
newsgroups) get various technical items correctly.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

11/01/2014 5:10 AM

On 2014-01-11, Phil Kangas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "Bill" answered to this:
>>> I am interested in which newsgroup has the
>>> greatest number of
>>> correct identifications for each class of
>>> objects. I can't develop that

[ ... ]

>> Maybe we should have a short vote on whether we
>> think your idea is any good before you impose it
>> on us?
>> I have to side with Mike Marlow on this one.
>> Bill
>>
>
> I agree with Mike also. Why? Because not everyone
> posts to all
> three groups therefore you will have to visit each
> group
> individually to get your data. That's a waste of
> time, IMHO.

How many post only in one group, instead of doing a normal
"followup", which would go to all three newsgroups? I don't see any in
rec.crafts.metalworking -- though I must admit to not
specifically looking for that. Granted, I have to deal with my
newsreader saying "are you sure?" each time, and suggesting that I set
the "Followup-To: " to a single newsgroup -- but if I did that, a number
would not see what I post, and perhaps augment my guesses with more
knowledge. I *hope* that everybody posts to all three newsgroups.

And I certainly don't go to the other two newsgroups. I spend
enough time on the net as it is, between a few newsgroups, some mailing
lists, and private e-mail. :-)

Enjoy,
DoN.

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"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

12/01/2014 4:18 AM

On 2014-01-11, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
> Marc Dashevsky wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>>> DoN. Nichols wrote:

[ ... ]

>>>> I've expanded the wording because of some who post saying "from
>>>> my computer" or something similarly uninformative.

[ ... ]

>>> Maybe we should have a short vote on whether we think your idea is any
>>> good before you impose it on us?

>> Impose? You must be very susceptible to suggestion.
>> Ignore it if you do not wish to do it.
>
>
> Just a coincidence, I suppose, that you and ol' DoN have the same
> newsgroup provider?

I don't know Mark, and I don't know how he wound up with
Newsguy. I know that I used to run my own news server until my
(previous) ISP dropped feeding news to private servers not too long
before dropping news totally. I switched to a new ISP, and shortly
after that, *they* dropped news service too. So I wound up with
Newsguy, and have been quite pleased with them.

If you know enough to note the news server, you should know
enough to read the headers and tell whether or not I have a "sock
puppet" (I don't -- but prove it to yourself, if you care).

DoN.

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in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

12/01/2014 4:20 AM

On 2014-01-11, Stormin Mormon <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 1/10/2014 8:55 PM, DoN. Nichols wrote:
>> On 2014-01-10, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2014/01/set-527.html#answers
>>
>> And for 3078 -- when you said "an outdoorsman", I was thinking
>> that you were implying that it was to be *used* outdoors. I see from
>> the later photo added that it was used with full brass shotshells, not
>> the later paper and then plastic ones. Though I guess that it could be
>> used for all.

[ ... ]

> In the post modern USA, are we still allowed
> to have guns? I'm in NYS, for example. I don't
> think proletariat are allowed guns, here.

Certainly no such restrictions in Virginia, and I'm sure that
there are a number of other states where that is true.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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in reply to Rob H. on 09/01/2014 1:04 AM

12/01/2014 4:31 AM

On 2014-01-11, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, mbuck
> says...
>>
>>Bingo...exactly right. Here's one on ebay.
>>
>>http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Dial-Gauge-Tool-1887-Brass-360-Degrees-
> Watchmakers-Bench-Top-Favorite-/350899298480
>>
>>Its a watchmaker's tool. Here's a closeup photo:
>>
>>http://s3.amazonaws.com/thmb.inkfrog.com/pix/AmFj1z/1_012.JPG/450/0
>
>
> Excellent! Great job on finding the answer, I'll send the links to the owner,
> I'm
> sure they will be happy to get this device identified.

It is certainly similar enough -- and it *might* be the same
one, photographed by a previous owner. It still looks like a shop-made
tool, not a purchased one.

O.K. Not identical -- this one goes to 360, not to 100, but
likely made by the same hands. And in spite of the auction saying "360
Degrees", it does not measure degrees -- it measures thickness or
diameter of small objects like gears and shafts.

But I *did* suggest earlier that it was made by a watchmaker,
based on various features of the dial.

Enjoy,
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