3/4" thick glass door hinge

Since this is a heavy custom piece of work, you might not find an off the
shelf solution for the hinges. Why not talk to a couple of local machine
shops and just have them make you a set of pivots? This way you can make
them as beefy as you need and won't have to settle on something of inferior
quality or style.

It seems to me if you started with some stainless channel and had the shop
weld a couple of 1/4" pins on the bottom these could be set into a small
plate with a nice little nylon bushing, and perhaps even a thrust washer on
the bottom.

Probably would not cost that much to do and the stainless can be either
brush finished or buffed to a high polish.


--

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About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then
they come up with this striped stuff.

"dwolf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have a commission that requires me to hang 2 doors made of laminated
> glass and urethane. It's 17" x 48", and weighs about 50 pounds..3/4"
thick.
> This is a free standing cabinet on casters to top it off. 40" wide 20"
deep
> 60" tall. The company that makes the panels is the one commissioning me.
> They can drill holes anywhere I want. 3/4" thick is the potential problem
as
> far as off the shelf hardware. I like the idea of a pair of pivot hinges,
> putting the weight of the door on the bottom rather than the cabinet
> sides...( torque ) This is a nice looking hinge if it could handle the
> thickness...
>
http://www.sugatsune.com/products/ProductDetails.cfm?CATID=7&SUBCATID=1&PRODUCTID=GP%2D40
>
> So any ideas from the peanut gallery ??? Joel
>
>

>Subject: 3/4" thick glass door hinge
>From: "dwolf" [email protected]
>Date: 12/27/2004 11:57 A.M. Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <[email protected]>
>
>I have a commission that requires me to hang 2 doors made of laminated
>glass and urethane. It's 17" x 48", and weighs about 50 pounds..3/4" thick.
>This is a free standing cabinet on casters to top it off. 40" wide 20" deep
>60" tall. The company that makes the panels is the one commissioning me.
>They can drill holes anywhere I want. 3/4" thick is the potential problem as
>far as off the shelf hardware. I like the idea of a pair of pivot hinges,
>putting the weight of the door on the bottom rather than the cabinet
>sides...( torque ) This is a nice looking hinge if it could handle the
>thickness...
>
>http://www.sugatsune.com/products/ProductDetails.cfm?CATID=7&SUBCATID=1&P
RODUCTID=GP%2D40
>
>So any ideas from the peanut gallery ??? Joel
>
>
>
>
Consider machining away the thinner side of the channel thus making it
"one-sided".


cheers
Bob

On 28 Dec 2004 04:53:39 GMT, [email protected] (Bob K 207) wrote:

>>Subject: 3/4" thick glass door hinge
>>From: "dwolf" [email protected]
>>Date: 12/27/2004 11:57 A.M. Pacific Standard Time
>>Message-id: <[email protected]>
>>
>>I have a commission that requires me to hang 2 doors made of laminated
>>glass and urethane. It's 17" x 48", and weighs about 50 pounds..3/4" thick.
>>This is a free standing cabinet on casters to top it off. 40" wide 20" deep
>>60" tall. The company that makes the panels is the one commissioning me.
>>They can drill holes anywhere I want. 3/4" thick is the potential problem as
>>far as off the shelf hardware. I like the idea of a pair of pivot hinges,
>>putting the weight of the door on the bottom rather than the cabinet
>>sides...( torque ) This is a nice looking hinge if it could handle the
>>thickness...
>>
>>http://www.sugatsune.com/products/ProductDetails.cfm?CATID=7&SUBCATID=1&P
>RODUCTID=GP%2D40
>>
>>So any ideas from the peanut gallery ??? Joel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>Consider machining away the thinner side of the channel thus making it
>"one-sided".

I might be wrong [been there], but isn't the glass held in by turning
the two screws for compression? With no second side, there's nothing
to hold it in place unless drilled through ...still an option.

I'd contact the hinge company. They seem to know what they're doing
and might affer soem advice ...they want your business.

Yes the rest of the cabinet is the same glass... the back is going to be 3/4
plywood. The bottom of this unit is going to have 2 doors, closed cabinet.
As for the counter weight... I plan on having a false back in that bottom
compartment and I will fill that with buck shot and the sides of the upper
are the 3/4 glass to I would think that should help the situation. I plan on
making the bottom unit very rigid. Double 3/4 inch wall all around and the
very top, where they want lights will also be a torsion box. I'm still
concerned about racking on the cabinet... then the doors could have problems
or just not sit straight.. Being on wheels certainly isn't helping...


"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "dwolf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> That's what they want.... the glass is a product of theirs and I guess
> they
>> want to show it off on the doors...
>
> I guess that makes sense enough. In that case I would not be looking at
> *any* off the shelf solutions. 3/4 inch glass is going to weigh a ton and
> standard hardware is not going to handle it. Equally, any hardware that
> simply screws into a wood frame with 5/8 wood screws is going to be put to
> the test. Again, I haven't kept on top of this thread from the beginning,
> so I apologize if I'm asking something that has been covered already, but
> what are your design plans for carrying this glass? I'm assuming the rest
> of the cabinet is also 3/4 inch glass, framed with wood? You're certainly
> going to need a lot of counter balance to offset the weight of that plate
> when it opens. This is taking on the nature of a neat sort of issue...
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> [email protected]
>
>
>

The sides of the cabinet will have the same panels.. that will add weight to
the piece and I plan on filling the bottom back with lead buckshot... I hope
this will deal with the problem

"Dave Jackson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Those style hinges look like a winner. Maybe look into similiar style
> hinges used on glass shower doors for the thickness needed? Also, cabinet
> you described sounds as if it would be really easy to tip over with those
> big glass doors open on it, be careful! --dave
>
>
> "dwolf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>I have a commission that requires me to hang 2 doors made of laminated
>>glass and urethane. It's 17" x 48", and weighs about 50 pounds..3/4"
>>thick. This is a free standing cabinet on casters to top it off. 40" wide
>>20" deep 60" tall. The company that makes the panels is the one
>>commissioning me. They can drill holes anywhere I want. 3/4" thick is the
>>potential problem as far as off the shelf hardware. I like the idea of a
>>pair of pivot hinges, putting the weight of the door on the bottom rather
>>than the cabinet sides...( torque ) This is a nice looking hinge if it
>>could handle the thickness...
>> http://www.sugatsune.com/products/ProductDetails.cfm?CATID=7&SUBCATID=1&PRODUCTID=GP%2D40
>>
>> So any ideas from the peanut gallery ??? Joel
>>
>
>

"Guess who" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 28 Dec 2004 04:53:39 GMT, [email protected] (Bob K 207) wrote:
>
> >>Subject: 3/4" thick glass door hinge
> >>From: "dwolf" [email protected]
> >>Date: 12/27/2004 11:57 A.M. Pacific Standard Time
> >>Message-id: <[email protected]>
> >>
> >>I have a commission that requires me to hang 2 doors made of laminated
> >>glass and urethane. It's 17" x 48", and weighs about 50 pounds..3/4"
thick.
> >>This is a free standing cabinet on casters to top it off. 40" wide 20"
deep
> >>60" tall. The company that makes the panels is the one commissioning me.
> >>They can drill holes anywhere I want. 3/4" thick is the potential
problem as
> >>far as off the shelf hardware. I like the idea of a pair of pivot
hinges,
> >>putting the weight of the door on the bottom rather than the cabinet
> >>sides...( torque ) This is a nice looking hinge if it could handle the
> >>thickness...
> >>
>
>>http://www.sugatsune.com/products/ProductDetails.cfm?CATID=7&SUBCATID=1&P
> >RODUCTID=GP%2D40
> >>
> >>So any ideas from the peanut gallery ??? Joel
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >Consider machining away the thinner side of the channel thus making it
> >"one-sided".
>
> I might be wrong [been there], but isn't the glass held in by turning
> the two screws for compression? With no second side, there's nothing
> to hold it in place unless drilled through ...still an option.
>
> I'd contact the hinge company. They seem to know what they're doing
> and might affer soem advice ...they want your business.
>

I probably missed something, because I haven't been following this thread,
but am I correct in reading 3/4 inch glass? If so, I'd have to ask why?
That's a LOT of glass.
--

-Mike-
[email protected]

That's what they want.... the glass is a product of theirs and I guess they
want to show it off on the doors...
"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Guess who" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On 28 Dec 2004 04:53:39 GMT, [email protected] (Bob K 207) wrote:
>>
>> >>Subject: 3/4" thick glass door hinge
>> >>From: "dwolf" [email protected]
>> >>Date: 12/27/2004 11:57 A.M. Pacific Standard Time
>> >>Message-id: <[email protected]>
>> >>
>> >>I have a commission that requires me to hang 2 doors made of laminated
>> >>glass and urethane. It's 17" x 48", and weighs about 50 pounds..3/4"
> thick.
>> >>This is a free standing cabinet on casters to top it off. 40" wide 20"
> deep
>> >>60" tall. The company that makes the panels is the one commissioning
>> >>me.
>> >>They can drill holes anywhere I want. 3/4" thick is the potential
> problem as
>> >>far as off the shelf hardware. I like the idea of a pair of pivot
> hinges,
>> >>putting the weight of the door on the bottom rather than the cabinet
>> >>sides...( torque ) This is a nice looking hinge if it could handle the
>> >>thickness...
>> >>
>>
>>>http://www.sugatsune.com/products/ProductDetails.cfm?CATID=7&SUBCATID=1&P
>> >RODUCTID=GP%2D40
>> >>
>> >>So any ideas from the peanut gallery ??? Joel
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >Consider machining away the thinner side of the channel thus making it
>> >"one-sided".
>>
>> I might be wrong [been there], but isn't the glass held in by turning
>> the two screws for compression? With no second side, there's nothing
>> to hold it in place unless drilled through ...still an option.
>>
>> I'd contact the hinge company. They seem to know what they're doing
>> and might affer soem advice ...they want your business.
>>
>
> I probably missed something, because I haven't been following this thread,
> but am I correct in reading 3/4 inch glass? If so, I'd have to ask why?
> That's a LOT of glass.
> --
>
> -Mike-
> [email protected]
>
>
>

"dwolf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> That's what they want.... the glass is a product of theirs and I guess
they
> want to show it off on the doors...

I guess that makes sense enough. In that case I would not be looking at
*any* off the shelf solutions. 3/4 inch glass is going to weigh a ton and
standard hardware is not going to handle it. Equally, any hardware that
simply screws into a wood frame with 5/8 wood screws is going to be put to
the test. Again, I haven't kept on top of this thread from the beginning,
so I apologize if I'm asking something that has been covered already, but
what are your design plans for carrying this glass? I'm assuming the rest
of the cabinet is also 3/4 inch glass, framed with wood? You're certainly
going to need a lot of counter balance to offset the weight of that plate
when it opens. This is taking on the nature of a neat sort of issue...

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

And what would hold the glass ?
"Bob K 207" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >Subject: 3/4" thick glass door hinge
>>From: "dwolf" [email protected]
>>Date: 12/27/2004 11:57 A.M. Pacific Standard Time
>>Message-id: <[email protected]>
>>
>>I have a commission that requires me to hang 2 doors made of laminated
>>glass and urethane. It's 17" x 48", and weighs about 50 pounds..3/4"
>>thick.
>>This is a free standing cabinet on casters to top it off. 40" wide 20"
>>deep
>>60" tall. The company that makes the panels is the one commissioning me.
>>They can drill holes anywhere I want. 3/4" thick is the potential problem
>>as
>>far as off the shelf hardware. I like the idea of a pair of pivot hinges,
>>putting the weight of the door on the bottom rather than the cabinet
>>sides...( torque ) This is a nice looking hinge if it could handle the
>>thickness...
>>
>>http://www.sugatsune.com/products/ProductDetails.cfm?CATID=7&SUBCATID=1&P
> RODUCTID=GP%2D40
>>
>>So any ideas from the peanut gallery ??? Joel
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Consider machining away the thinner side of the channel thus making it
> "one-sided".
>
>
> cheers
> Bob

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 09:13:18 -0500, Guess who
<[email protected]> calmly ranted:

>On 28 Dec 2004 04:53:39 GMT, [email protected] (Bob K 207) wrote:
>
>>>Subject: 3/4" thick glass door hinge
>>>From: "dwolf" [email protected]
>>>Date: 12/27/2004 11:57 A.M. Pacific Standard Time
>>>Message-id: <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>I have a commission that requires me to hang 2 doors made of laminated
>>>glass and urethane. It's 17" x 48", and weighs about 50 pounds..3/4" thick.
>>>This is a free standing cabinet on casters to top it off. 40" wide 20" deep
>>>60" tall. The company that makes the panels is the one commissioning me.
>>>They can drill holes anywhere I want. 3/4" thick is the potential problem as
>>>far as off the shelf hardware. I like the idea of a pair of pivot hinges,
>>>putting the weight of the door on the bottom rather than the cabinet
>>>sides...( torque ) This is a nice looking hinge if it could handle the
>>>thickness...
>>>
>>>http://www.sugatsune.com/products/ProductDetails.cfm?CATID=7&SUBCATID=1&P
>>RODUCTID=GP%2D40
>>>
>>>So any ideas from the peanut gallery ??? Joel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Consider machining away the thinner side of the channel thus making it
>>"one-sided".
>
>I might be wrong [been there], but isn't the glass held in by turning
>the two screws for compression? With no second side, there's nothing
>to hold it in place unless drilled through ...still an option.

In those I've seen, the glass usually fits into them as somewhat of a
compression fit with sticky tape. (I repaired my vent windows in that
same manner.) Then the setscrews enhance that holding power, sometimes
against rubber-coated plates which distribute the screw's pressure.


>I'd contact the hinge company. They seem to know what they're doing
>and might affer soem advice ...they want your business.

Very good idea. For the end customer's sake, the style of hinge
he showed us would be good. Through-holes might double the cost of
a replacement to the end user.


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Although not 3/4" thick aren't glass shower doors hinged with a
clamping type hinge? No holes just a very sticky gasket material
between the clamp and the glass.

S

Those style hinges look like a winner. Maybe look into similiar style hinges
used on glass shower doors for the thickness needed? Also, cabinet you
described sounds as if it would be really easy to tip over with those big
glass doors open on it, be careful! --dave


"dwolf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I have a commission that requires me to hang 2 doors made of laminated
>glass and urethane. It's 17" x 48", and weighs about 50 pounds..3/4" thick.
>This is a free standing cabinet on casters to top it off. 40" wide 20"
>deep 60" tall. The company that makes the panels is the one commissioning
>me. They can drill holes anywhere I want. 3/4" thick is the potential
>problem as far as off the shelf hardware. I like the idea of a pair of
>pivot hinges, putting the weight of the door on the bottom rather than the
>cabinet sides...( torque ) This is a nice looking hinge if it could handle
>the thickness...
> http://www.sugatsune.com/products/ProductDetails.cfm?CATID=7&SUBCATID=1&PRODUCTID=GP%2D40
>
> So any ideas from the peanut gallery ??? Joel
>