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Andy Dingley

28/10/2004 1:50 AM

Shop safety advice

Don't catch falling drawknives

8-(


(It'll heal, but I'm now out of superglue)


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TT

TWS

in reply to Andy Dingley on 28/10/2004 1:50 AM

28/10/2004 4:03 AM

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 01:50:01 +0100, Andy Dingley
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Don't catch falling drawknives
>
>8-(
>
>
>(It'll heal, but I'm now out of superglue)
Just the other day a piece I was working on knocked my chisel and I
watched as it started to roll toward the edge of the bench. It was
amazing how much you can think about while being totally paralyzed. I
knew in every bone in my body not to grab for it so I just watched it
go over the edge. I heard the first hit as it struck the concrete
floor and you could tell from the sound that it landed edge first.
Sure enough, great dig in the floor, a chisel that would require a lot
of lovin to get it back in shape, and I still have all ten fingers...

TWS
http://tomstudwell.com/allprojects.htm

wW

[email protected] (WilliaJ2)

in reply to Andy Dingley on 28/10/2004 1:50 AM

28/10/2004 3:33 AM

>Don't catch falling drawknives
>

OUCH!

I learned that as a teen trying to catch a falling x-acto knoife while building
a model car. It tends to make you a real fast learner for sure.

Big John


Take out the TRASH for E-mail.

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to [email protected] (WilliaJ2) on 28/10/2004 3:33 AM

28/10/2004 8:26 AM

Big John relates:
>>Don't catch falling drawknives
>>
>
>OUCH!
>
>I learned that as a teen trying to catch a falling x-acto knoife while
>building
>a model car. It tends to make you a real fast learner for sure.

I learned at Parris Island. Dropped my razor while shaving. Left hand shot out
and caught it, almost without thought. And spent the next week supporting the
forestock of an M1 with that left palm. Safety razor my patoot!

It has never happened again. I just let sharp items fall.



Charlie Self
"When we are planning for posterity, we ought to remember that virtue is not
hereditary." Thomas Paine

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to Andy Dingley on 28/10/2004 1:50 AM

27/10/2004 7:57 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Andy Dingley
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Don't catch falling drawknives

OUCH!

I've learned to jump back from falling knives, and screw the edge. I
occasionally do that in the kitchen when chopping, and often am in sock
feet when it happens. My chef's knife is always close to scary sharp.

So far so good...

Gg

"George"

in reply to Andy Dingley on 28/10/2004 1:50 AM

29/10/2004 7:19 AM

I'm forever nicking fingers on the corners as I handle them. Seems to make
no difference if I round them with sandpaper.

No leather for me since I began using that white closed-cell foam as
form-fitting tool holders in my shop. 1" spring clamps hold it to a loose
tool, and in the box it's cradled against anything.

"Andy Dingley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> It slid very slowly across three fingertips as it slipped off the
> shelf - it wasn't even falling. Still managed to cut them pretty well.
> Fortunately I have longish fingernails, and I'd braked it somewhat by
> slicing a vee down into the nail. There are two new (old) drawknives
> on that shelf, and of course the one that decided to slip off was the
> one I'd recently sharpened. I must get some more leather covers sewn
> up for the new ones.
>
> Thursday is sword-fighting night. No-one believed I hadn't picked up
> my pointy end by mistake.
>

wS

in reply to Andy Dingley on 28/10/2004 1:50 AM

28/10/2004 3:21 PM

"Robin Lee" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "Andy Dingley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Don't catch falling drawknives
> >
> > 8-(
> >
> >
> > (It'll heal, but I'm now out of superglue)
> >
>
>
> ...and don't stick out your foot to catch a dropped kitchen knife....feet
> bleed a LOT when punctured!

A friend had that happen with a big knife, barefoot and had a LOT of
problems with cut tendons. Something I still do occasionally is grab a
hot drillbit, but I at least now realize instantaneously it's a
mistake.

JB

Jim Behning

in reply to Andy Dingley on 28/10/2004 1:50 AM

28/10/2004 4:15 AM

My college teacher did not like people to drop tools on the floor. He
did mention that a chisel htting the floor was better than using your
foot to stop it. I think a student tried that hackeysack thing before
hackeysack was a word. Foot and chisel are not words you want in the
same sentance.

Andy Dingley <[email protected]> wrote:

>Don't catch falling drawknives
>
>8-(
>
>
>(It'll heal, but I'm now out of superglue)

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Andy Dingley on 28/10/2004 1:50 AM

29/10/2004 5:11 AM

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 03:15:28 +0100, Andy Dingley
<[email protected]> calmly ranted:

>On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:58:48 -0700, Larry Jaques
><novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>
>>Did you use it up on what used to be fingers or what
>>used to be toes?
>
>It slid very slowly across three fingertips as it slipped off the
>shelf - it wasn't even falling. Still managed to cut them pretty well.
>Fortunately I have longish fingernails, and I'd braked it somewhat by
>slicing a vee down into the nail. There are two new (old) drawknives
>on that shelf, and of course the one that decided to slip off was the
>one I'd recently sharpened. I must get some more leather covers sewn
>up for the new ones.

The recently sharpened one severed the fibers of your skin nicely,
so they should heal with relatively little scarring and less pain.
Be thankful it was the sharp one. DAMHIKT

I kept the little plastic sleeve which came on my LVT carver's
drawknife. It has saved me at least twice now that I think of it.
I should work up some leather sleeves for the other two, full-size
old drawknives I found on Ebay for $5 apiece. That or build more
tool storage like I'm always threatening.


>Thursday is sword-fighting night. No-one believed I hadn't picked up
>my pointy end by mistake.

You crafty devil, you.


--
"Given the low level of competence among politicians,
every American should become a Libertarian."
-- Charley Reese, Alameda Times-Star (California), June 17, 2003

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to Andy Dingley on 28/10/2004 1:50 AM

28/10/2004 6:18 AM

"Bill Stock" wrote in message

> My Grandfather did electric motor repair when I was a youngster, so I
picked
> up a few things. Including one or two things I shouldn't have. He and my
> uncle were testing a motor they had put new windings in when the pulley
came
> off the shaft. Before they could not tell me not to touch it, I had picked
> it up and got a nasty burn.

Did a lot of farrier work during my college days and after the service. A
hot horseshoe, after it has cooled to the same color as the others, is
indistinguishable from a cool one. DAMHIKT.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/04/04

EM

Eddie Munster

in reply to Andy Dingley on 28/10/2004 1:50 AM

28/10/2004 12:57 PM

It is really difficult to not grab falling things.

Chisels and gouges especially for me. Drawknifes, very scarey indeed.

Accidents are so wastefull, aren't they.

John

Andy Dingley wrote:
> Don't catch falling drawknives
>
> 8-(
>
>
> (It'll heal, but I'm now out of superglue)
>

BS

"Bill Stock"

in reply to Andy Dingley on 28/10/2004 1:50 AM

27/10/2004 11:40 PM


"WilliaJ2" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >Don't catch falling drawknives
> >
>
> OUCH!
>
> I learned that as a teen trying to catch a falling x-acto knoife while
building
> a model car. It tends to make you a real fast learner for sure.
>
> Big John
>
>
> Take out the TRASH for E-mail.

My Grandfather did electric motor repair when I was a youngster, so I picked
up a few things. Including one or two things I shouldn't have. He and my
uncle were testing a motor they had put new windings in when the pulley came
off the shaft. Before they could not tell me not to touch it, I had picked
it up and got a nasty burn. They were amused, I was not. I also discovered
that 220 gave you a special tingle compared to 110. :)


Hj

Hitch

in reply to Andy Dingley on 28/10/2004 1:50 AM

28/10/2004 7:05 PM

> I also discovered that 220 gave you a special tingle compared
> to 110. :)
>
>
>

Also, don't touch a bare, live, 220V wire when your hand is holding the
power supply switch.


With your cheek.






--
John Snow
"If I knew what I was doing, I wouldn't be here"

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Andy Dingley on 28/10/2004 1:50 AM

28/10/2004 6:01 PM

On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:40:50 -0400, "Bill Stock" <[email protected]>
calmly ranted:

>
>"WilliaJ2" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> >Don't catch falling drawknives
>> >
>>
>> OUCH!
>>
>> I learned that as a teen trying to catch a falling x-acto knoife while
>building
>> a model car. It tends to make you a real fast learner for sure.
>>
>> Big John
>>
>>
>> Take out the TRASH for E-mail.
>
>My Grandfather did electric motor repair when I was a youngster, so I picked
>up a few things. Including one or two things I shouldn't have. He and my
>uncle were testing a motor they had put new windings in when the pulley came
>off the shaft. Before they could not tell me not to touch it, I had picked
>it up and got a nasty burn. They were amused, I was not. I also discovered
>that 220 gave you a special tingle compared to 110. :)

I was testing power supplies in the Engineering Dept. at Southcom,
Int'l. when I gave them some welding lessons. About the tenth unit
I checked, I forgot to power down the panel before putting the
screwdriver on the terminals. I loosened the first one and when I
set it to the second, the first lug hit the screwdriver. The resultant
arc, which blew the 240v FIFTY AMP circuit breaker, was QUITE bright.
I was red for a month. ;)


--
"Given the low level of competence among politicians,
every American should become a Libertarian."
-- Charley Reese, Alameda Times-Star (California), June 17, 2003

r

in reply to Andy Dingley on 28/10/2004 1:50 AM

29/10/2004 1:12 AM

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:58:48 -0700, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 01:50:01 +0100, Andy Dingley
><[email protected]> calmly ranted:
>
>>Don't catch falling drawknives
>>
>>8-(
>>
>>(It'll heal, but I'm now out of superglue)
>
>Did you use it up on what used to be fingers or what
>used to be toes? Condolences, bloody...,er, butterfingers.
>
>GIF at 11 of "How not to catch a falling Scary Sharp(tm) item?

Remember class, our mantra here at camp is: "It's a lot quicker to
repair a munged tool edge than it is to repair a munged finger."
--RC (Who still has a scar from learning this lesson the hard way)

"You Know Things Are Weird When Arnold Schwartznegger
Is Governor of California, Ronald Reagan Is One Of Our
Most Beloved Ex-Presidents, And John Kerry Is Running
For President On His Vietnam War Record"

pc

"patrick conroy"

in reply to Andy Dingley on 28/10/2004 1:50 AM

29/10/2004 6:02 AM


"Robin Lee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> ...and don't stick out your foot to catch a dropped kitchen knife....feet
> bleed a LOT when punctured!


We called that "Stockers Foot". Stocker, as in Grocery Store Shelf
(re)Stocker. One of the many jobs I had as a kid. It got to be second
nature, putting a foot out to block a dropped jar from a shelf.

What cured me was when I unconciously put my foot under a large, heavy,
granite object to "break its fall."

RL

"Robin Lee"

in reply to Andy Dingley on 28/10/2004 1:50 AM

28/10/2004 8:18 AM


"Andy Dingley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Don't catch falling drawknives
>
> 8-(
>
>
> (It'll heal, but I'm now out of superglue)
>


...and don't stick out your foot to catch a dropped kitchen knife....feet
bleed a LOT when punctured!


da

dale austin

in reply to Andy Dingley on 28/10/2004 1:50 AM

29/10/2004 9:41 AM

My father was a jeweler who used those lovely pointed x-acto knives
extensively. He worked sitting down and usually crosslegged. He's over
at his bench, I'm over at mine wooddorking-and I hear a resigned "shit!"
Look over to see my father looking down at an x-acto knife embedded up
to the hilt in his thigh doing that boooiiiiingggggg! thing from the
cartoons. We both flash on that scene in Young Frankenstein-"hearts and
kidneys are tinkertoys!" We laughed so hard it was several minutes
before either of us had hands steady enough to pull it out safely. The
good news is those suckers are sharp, and the edges knit right away.

Dale



WilliaJ2 wrote:
>>Don't catch falling drawknives
>>
>
>
> OUCH!
>
> I learned that as a teen trying to catch a falling x-acto knoife while building
> a model car. It tends to make you a real fast learner for sure.
>
> Big John
>
>
> Take out the TRASH for E-mail.

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Andy Dingley

in reply to Andy Dingley on 28/10/2004 1:50 AM

28/10/2004 10:29 AM

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 04:15:36 GMT, Jim Behning
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Foot and chisel are not words you want in the
>same sentance.

I keep my steelies by the kitchen door into the workshop. I just don't
go in there without them.

IMHO, plywood is the dangerous stuff. A sheet of that falling edge on
will really do a number on toes.

--
Smert' spamionam

PK

Paul Kierstead

in reply to Andy Dingley on 28/10/2004 1:50 AM

28/10/2004 8:39 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
Andy Dingley <[email protected]> wrote:

> Don't catch falling drawknives
>
> 8-(

Ouch.

One of my hardest learned lessons (in pain): Don't reach for a hot
soldering iron without looking. If you absolutely must be stupid and
reach for it, then don't just fully grip it immediately.

And chisels are the most dangerous tools in the shop. Well, OK, the ones
which frequently injure me the most anyway, though patched up easily.

PK

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Andy Dingley

in reply to Andy Dingley on 28/10/2004 1:50 AM

29/10/2004 3:15 AM

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:58:48 -0700, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:

>Did you use it up on what used to be fingers or what
>used to be toes?

It slid very slowly across three fingertips as it slipped off the
shelf - it wasn't even falling. Still managed to cut them pretty well.
Fortunately I have longish fingernails, and I'd braked it somewhat by
slicing a vee down into the nail. There are two new (old) drawknives
on that shelf, and of course the one that decided to slip off was the
one I'd recently sharpened. I must get some more leather covers sewn
up for the new ones.

Thursday is sword-fighting night. No-one believed I hadn't picked up
my pointy end by mistake.

UC

"U-CDK_CHARLES\\Charles" <"Charles Krug"@cdksystems.com>

in reply to Andy Dingley on 28/10/2004 1:50 AM

29/10/2004 2:35 PM

On 28 Oct 2004 15:21:11 -0700, Sam <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> A friend had that happen with a big knife, barefoot and had a LOT of
> problems with cut tendons. Something I still do occasionally is grab a
> hot drillbit, but I at least now realize instantaneously it's a
> mistake.

My first solo spin with the router. I was modifying a speaker cabinet
so that the horn mount would hold a larger driver.

It was time to change bits, so I CAREFULLY unplugged the router, and
held the plug in my hand so that no one would "help" by plugging it back
in for me.

Then I grabbed the hot router bit in my bare hand.

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Andy Dingley

in reply to Andy Dingley on 28/10/2004 1:50 AM

29/10/2004 2:10 PM

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:19:38 -0400, "George" <george@least> wrote:

>No leather for me since I began using that white closed-cell foam as
>form-fitting tool holders in my shop.

I use a lot of that stuff. For drawknives I prefer leather though,
because it has the tensile strength to make a wrapper held with either
press studs or velcro. I have tried using plastazote foam for these -
it worked OK as a sleeve, but the fasteners kept tearing out.

--
Smert' spamionam

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Andy Dingley on 28/10/2004 1:50 AM

28/10/2004 5:58 PM

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 01:50:01 +0100, Andy Dingley
<[email protected]> calmly ranted:

>Don't catch falling drawknives
>
>8-(
>
>(It'll heal, but I'm now out of superglue)

Did you use it up on what used to be fingers or what
used to be toes? Condolences, bloody...,er, butterfingers.

GIF at 11 of "How not to catch a falling Scary Sharp(tm) item?


--
"Given the low level of competence among politicians,
every American should become a Libertarian."
-- Charley Reese, Alameda Times-Star (California), June 17, 2003


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