I have seen, on a number of occasions, a chair similar to a morris
chair designed by FLW. At least I believe he might have designed it,
as I believe that most of the furniture in the homes he designed was
his as well.
Anyhoo, this chair has even broader arms that extend without tapering
or sloping around three sides.
Back cushion stands not so nearly as proud of the main body of the
chair as on the Morris you see commonly today.
Is that clear? I cannot find a pic... waitaminnit.... saw one of them
last week on CBS Sunday Morning. Piece about an author who wrote a
book about the women in FLW's life. "The Women", I think.
Anyone got a pic or know where I might find plans?
TIA
D'ohBoy
"notbob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 2009-05-22, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> And if they're anything like his houses, your knees will be in
>> your chest if you're over 5'5". :-)
>
> Just watched a biography of FLW. Most of the hype was just that, self
> promoted, no less. I've seen his work and houses. Yes, Falling Water,
> Guggenheim, and Marin CC, were gorgeous works of art, viewed from the
> exterior, but I'd hate to have to liven in any of his houses. FW and
> Taliesan interiors look like doctor's waiting rooms, right angle torture
> chambers. Not a soft corner or spot to be found, so unlike his later
> exteriors. Oh well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
>
Not to mention the leaky roofs, poor mechanical systems, structural
engineering problems, etc.
"D'ohBoy" wrote
The wife says no one will ever notice this sort of detail. HAH! *I*
notice this sort of thing and guess what honey? I'm making the chair
for me. Screw other people, I plan to drink a lotta good bourbon and
single malt in that chair.
And read good books.
And fall asleep.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
READ???? You obviously are not of the video game generation.
Fall asleep?? You must be an old fart.
I can relate. Sound like my big, overstuffed leather chair.
On May 22, 12:23=A0pm, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
> Steve Turner wrote:
> >>> Anyone got a pic or know where I might find plans?
>
> >> If you're tempted to make an FLW chair, be aware that even he admitted
> >> that he wasn't any good at designing =A0chairs. =A0Any plans would be
> >> owned by the Frank Lloyd Wright Foundation
> >>http://www.franklloydwright.org.
>
> > His chairs were for the comfort of the eye only, not the body.
>
> And if they're anything like his houses, your knees will be in
> your chest if you're over 5'5". :-)
>
> --
>
> =A0 -MIKE-
>
> =A0 "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
> =A0 =A0 =A0--Elvin Jones =A0(1927-2004)
> =A0 --
> =A0http://mikedrums.com
> =A0 [email protected]
> =A0 ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
Yes, and his roofs leaked and I agree, most of his interiors were
surprisingly non-useful for the space and dark to boot.
BUT BUT BUT:
If you feel a morris chair (of the traditional type) is comfortable,
this chair offers the same ergonomics but styled somewhat
differently. I have some unbelievable curly 1/4-sawn white oak that I
want to showcase on the arms of the chair, which appear to be in the
neighborhood of 6 inches wide. Plan to bookmatch the left and
right.
The wife says no one will ever notice this sort of detail. HAH! *I*
notice this sort of thing and guess what honey? I'm making the chair
for me. Screw other people, I plan to drink a lotta good bourbon and
single malt in that chair.
And read good books.
And fall asleep.
D'ohBoy
On May 22, 1:39=A0pm, notbob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Just watched a biography of FLW. =A0Most of the hype was just that, self
> promoted, no less. =A0I've seen his work and houses. =A0Yes, Falling Wate=
r,
> Guggenheim, and Marin CC, were gorgeous works of art, viewed from the
> exterior, but I'd hate to have to liven in any of his houses. =A0FW and
> Taliesan interiors look like doctor's waiting rooms, right angle torture
> chambers. =A0Not a soft corner or spot to be found, so unlike his later
> exteriors. =A0Oh well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. =A0
It's unclear what you mean by, "I've seen his work and houses." when
that's put right after, "Just watched a biography of (sic) FLW." Have
you visited them in person? Which ones?
R
On May 22, 12:50=A0pm, "Lee Michaels"
<leemichaels*[email protected]> wrote:
> "notbob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...> On 2009-05-22, -MIKE- <m...=
@mikedrumsDOT.com> wrote:
>
> >> And if they're anything like his houses, your knees will be in
> >> your chest if you're over 5'5". :-)
>
> > Just watched a biography of FLW. =A0Most of the hype was just that, sel=
f
> > promoted, no less. =A0I've seen his work and houses. =A0Yes, Falling Wa=
ter,
> > Guggenheim, and Marin CC, were gorgeous works of art, viewed from the
> > exterior, but I'd hate to have to liven in any of his houses. =A0FW and
> > Taliesan interiors look like doctor's waiting rooms, right angle tortur=
e
> > chambers. =A0Not a soft corner or spot to be found, so unlike his later
> > exteriors. =A0Oh well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
>
> Not to mention the leaky roofs, poor mechanical systems, structural
> engineering problems, etc.
I have to agree. I think FLW is overrated. I've heard it's a huge job
just keeping Falling Water from washing away.
D'ohBoy wrote:
> The wife says no one will ever notice this sort of detail. HAH! *I*
> notice this sort of thing and guess what honey? I'm making the chair
> for me. Screw other people, I plan to drink a lotta good bourbon and
> single malt in that chair.
>
> And read good books.
>
> And fall asleep.
:)
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
We were in Spring Green Wisconsin a few years ago and drove out to
Taliesan. The visitor's center was interesting but you REALLY have to
want to see the house to visit it. Bottom of the line tour was
basically a drive through the grounds for $40. From there tours went
up, way up, for actual walking tours of the house. As I recall the
architectural tour was $80 a head.
Wasn't that interested.
Wright is an example of how far a huge ego can take you. When he
designed a house, he designed much of the furniture that went into it
- and expected it to stay. There is a Wright house in Wichita, Kansas
where we used to live. Apparently when the original occupants decided
to swap some of his furniture with some of their own taste, he threw a
fit.
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=frank%20lloyd%20wright%20chairs&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
David Merrill
"D'ohBoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:bf387abc-7227-4736-93d7-84ae31af0203@t10g2000vbg.googlegroups.com...
> I have seen, on a number of occasions, a chair similar to a morris
> chair designed by FLW. At least I believe he might have designed it,
> as I believe that most of the furniture in the homes he designed was
> his as well.
>
> Anyhoo, this chair has even broader arms that extend without tapering
> or sloping around three sides.
>
> Back cushion stands not so nearly as proud of the main body of the
> chair as on the Morris you see commonly today.
>
> Is that clear? I cannot find a pic... waitaminnit.... saw one of them
> last week on CBS Sunday Morning. Piece about an author who wrote a
> book about the women in FLW's life. "The Women", I think.
>
> Anyone got a pic or know where I might find plans?
>
> TIA
>
> D'ohBoy
>
>
>
On May 22, 6:26=A0pm, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*[email protected]>
wrote:
> "D'ohBoy" =A0wrote
>
> The wife says no one will ever notice this sort of detail. =A0HAH! =A0*I*
> notice this sort of thing and guess what honey? =A0I'm making the chair
> for me. =A0Screw other people, I plan to drink a lotta good bourbon and
> single malt in that chair.
>
> And read good books.
>
> And fall asleep.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> READ???? =A0You obviously are not of the video game generation.
>
> Fall asleep?? =A0You must be an old fart.
>
> I can relate. Sound like my big, overstuffed leather chair.
Not that old, but feel that way. Is 42 old? When I go down to the UW
for lunch those 20 year old girls look like they are 16 and then
oh.... it's me that's old, not them that's that young ;)
And as my buddy once commented on a gyro run in spring: "We're
invisible to them."
D'ohBoy
On May 23, 3:41=A0am, BSRLee <[email protected]> wrote:
> If the arm and back horizontal rail sort of wrap round all at the same
> height, level with the top of the cushions, you may want to search for
> 'Prarie' furniture.
>
> A couple of examples from Google, scroll as required:
>
> http://margoliscustomcarpentry.com/handcraftedfurniture.aspx&usg=3D__Sy..=
.
>
> http://www.unfinishedkits.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc%3FStore_Code%3DM...
>
> It was an offshoot of the Gustav Stickley 'Arts & Crafts' style
> furniture, when the manufacturers were looking for ways to continue
> the popularity of their products, much like calling everything
> 'Mission' & slapping on a coat of dark stain, right towards the end of
> the 'Arts & Crafts' marketplace popularity. I have seen photos of 2 &
> 3 seater lounge/sofa seating to match the chairs.
>
> I think it is only a coincidence the FLW also named one of his styles
> 'Prarie' a few years/decades later.
>
> Been wrong before, probably will be again ;-)
>
> regards
> Bruce
>
> On Fri, 22 May 2009 07:53:35 -0700 (PDT), "D'ohBoy"
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >I have seen, on a number of occasions, a chair similar to a morris
> >chair designed by FLW. =A0At least I believe he might have designed it,
> >as I believe that most of the furniture in the homes he designed was
> >his as well.
>
> >Anyhoo, this chair has even broader arms that extend without tapering
> >or sloping around three sides.
>
> >Back cushion stands not so nearly as proud of the main body of the
> >chair as on the Morris you see commonly today.
>
> >Is that clear? =A0I cannot find a pic... waitaminnit.... saw one of them
> >last week on CBS Sunday Morning. =A0Piece about an author who wrote a
> >book about the women in FLW's life. =A0"The Women", I think.
>
> >Anyone got a pic or know where I might find plans?
>
> >TIA
>
> >D'ohBoy
That's darn close - thanks!
D'ohBoy
On May 22, 11:30=A0am, "David Merrill" <[email protected]> wrote:
> http://images.google.com/images?hl=3Den&q=3Dfrank%20lloyd%20wright%20chai=
...
>
> David Merrill
>
> "D'ohBoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:bf387abc-7227-4736-93d7-84ae31af0203@t10g2000vbg.googlegroups.com...
BTDT. But thanks anyhoo!
Gonna look at stickley images, etc....
D'ohboy
D'ohBoy wrote:
> I have seen, on a number of occasions, a chair similar to a morris
> chair designed by FLW. At least I believe he might have designed it,
> as I believe that most of the furniture in the homes he designed was
> his as well.
>
> Anyhoo, this chair has even broader arms that extend without tapering
> or sloping around three sides.
>
> Back cushion stands not so nearly as proud of the main body of the
> chair as on the Morris you see commonly today.
>
> Is that clear? I cannot find a pic... waitaminnit.... saw one of them
> last week on CBS Sunday Morning. Piece about an author who wrote a
> book about the women in FLW's life. "The Women", I think.
>
> Anyone got a pic or know where I might find plans?
If you're tempted to make an FLW chair, be aware that even he admitted that
he wasn't any good at designing chairs. Any plans would be owned by the
Frank Lloyd Wright Foundation http://www.franklloydwright.org.
Steve Turner wrote:
>>> Anyone got a pic or know where I might find plans?
>>
>> If you're tempted to make an FLW chair, be aware that even he admitted
>> that he wasn't any good at designing chairs. Any plans would be
>> owned by the Frank Lloyd Wright Foundation
>> http://www.franklloydwright.org.
>
> His chairs were for the comfort of the eye only, not the body.
>
And if they're anything like his houses, your knees will be in
your chest if you're over 5'5". :-)
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
-MIKE- wrote:
> Steve Turner wrote:
>>>> Anyone got a pic or know where I might find plans?
>>>
>>> If you're tempted to make an FLW chair, be aware that even he
>>> admitted that he wasn't any good at designing chairs. Any plans
>>> would be owned by the Frank Lloyd Wright Foundation
>>> http://www.franklloydwright.org.
>>
>> His chairs were for the comfort of the eye only, not the body.
>>
>
> And if they're anything like his houses, your knees will be in
> your chest if you're over 5'5". :-)
Besides, if you see a Morris chair in a FLW house, it's likely a Morris
chair, of which there are many variants by different manufacturers.
Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "D'ohBoy" wrote
>
>> Not that old, but feel that way. Is 42 old?
>
> Good grief, you are just getting started.
>
> My kids are older than that.
>
> It's all a matter of attitude.
>
> As Satchel used to say, "Don't look over your shoulder, IT might be
> gaining on you".
A friend of mine is 73, his daughter just moved out, and he's getting
depressed--first time in his life that he's thinking of himself as old.
Another is over 90 and going strong and is still surprised and annoyed when
his body won't do something anymore that he wants it to do.
Personally at 54 I thought I was old, turned out that I just had a medical
problem that an outpatient surgery fixed in 2 hours.
BSRLee wrote:
> If the arm and back horizontal rail sort of wrap round all at the same
> height, level with the top of the cushions, you may want to search for
> 'Prarie' furniture.
>
> A couple of examples from Google, scroll as required:
>
> http://margoliscustomcarpentry.com/handcraftedfurniture.aspx&usg=__SyvFrUOeyHlumlXq2WYOqldiG1w=&h=480&w=640&sz=51&hl=en&start=58&um=1&tbnid=CChu9cFs5KtCGM:&tbnh=103&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dprarie%2Bchairs%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26start%3D54%26um%3D1
>
> http://www.unfinishedkits.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc%3FStore_Code%3DM%26Screen%3DPROD%26Product_Code%3DHS0052&usg=__eHI7l6SKSRftEK3cTgweKV7mGKg=&h=455&w=550&sz=58&hl=en&start=36&um=1&tbnid=dxRhmeAhy8Q8aM:&tbnh=110&tbnw=133&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dprarie%2Bchairs%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26start%3D18%26um%3D1
>
>
> It was an offshoot of the Gustav Stickley 'Arts & Crafts' style
> furniture, when the manufacturers were looking for ways to continue
> the popularity of their products, much like calling everything
> 'Mission' & slapping on a coat of dark stain, right towards the end of
> the 'Arts & Crafts' marketplace popularity. I have seen photos of 2 &
> 3 seater lounge/sofa seating to match the chairs.
>
> I think it is only a coincidence the FLW also named one of his styles
> 'Prarie' a few years/decades later.
>
> Been wrong before, probably will be again ;-)
That jogged my memory.
If that's the chair the OP is looking for, there are plans available at
http://www.woodstore.net/missofandcha.html.
The current Stickley catalog has two variants (as well as different
finishes)
http://www.stickley.com/OurProducts_Results.cfm?Collection=Mission&cat1=88&view=all
(look about a third of the way down the page), no doubt for Stickley prices.
Drawings for that and a lot else can be found in
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1892836122/ for 16 bucks. Note that the
"shop drawings" series is just that--carefully measured drawings of the
finished piece--some details of construction you have to work out for
yourself.
Google "Stickley 416 chair" for more.
Note that historically Gustav Stickley's "The Craftsman" (online at
http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi-bin/DLDecArts/DLDecArts-idx?type=browse&scope=DLDECARTS.HOMEDESIGN )
was a major influence on Wright and he used Stickley furnishings in some of
his early houses before he started designing his own. And if you read some
of "The Craftsman" you find that in turn Morris had a major influence on
Stickley. Also, historians consider the "Prairie School" to have started in
the late 1800s.
> regards
> Bruce
>
> On Fri, 22 May 2009 07:53:35 -0700 (PDT), "D'ohBoy"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I have seen, on a number of occasions, a chair similar to a morris
>> chair designed by FLW. At least I believe he might have designed it,
>> as I believe that most of the furniture in the homes he designed was
>> his as well.
>>
>> Anyhoo, this chair has even broader arms that extend without tapering
>> or sloping around three sides.
>>
>> Back cushion stands not so nearly as proud of the main body of the
>> chair as on the Morris you see commonly today.
>>
>> Is that clear? I cannot find a pic... waitaminnit.... saw one of
>> them last week on CBS Sunday Morning. Piece about an author who
>> wrote a book about the women in FLW's life. "The Women", I think.
>>
>> Anyone got a pic or know where I might find plans?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> D'ohBoy
J. Clarke wrote:
> D'ohBoy wrote:
>> I have seen, on a number of occasions, a chair similar to a morris
>> chair designed by FLW. At least I believe he might have designed it,
>> as I believe that most of the furniture in the homes he designed was
>> his as well.
>>
>> Anyhoo, this chair has even broader arms that extend without tapering
>> or sloping around three sides.
>>
>> Back cushion stands not so nearly as proud of the main body of the
>> chair as on the Morris you see commonly today.
>>
>> Is that clear? I cannot find a pic... waitaminnit.... saw one of them
>> last week on CBS Sunday Morning. Piece about an author who wrote a
>> book about the women in FLW's life. "The Women", I think.
>>
>> Anyone got a pic or know where I might find plans?
>
> If you're tempted to make an FLW chair, be aware that even he admitted that
> he wasn't any good at designing chairs. Any plans would be owned by the
> Frank Lloyd Wright Foundation http://www.franklloydwright.org.
His chairs were for the comfort of the eye only, not the body.
--
Any given amount of traffic flow, no matter how
sparse, will expand to fill all available lanes.
To reply, eat the taco.
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On 2009-05-22, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
> And if they're anything like his houses, your knees will be in
> your chest if you're over 5'5". :-)
Just watched a biography of FLW. Most of the hype was just that, self
promoted, no less. I've seen his work and houses. Yes, Falling Water,
Guggenheim, and Marin CC, were gorgeous works of art, viewed from the
exterior, but I'd hate to have to liven in any of his houses. FW and
Taliesan interiors look like doctor's waiting rooms, right angle torture
chambers. Not a soft corner or spot to be found, so unlike his later
exteriors. Oh well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
nb
If the arm and back horizontal rail sort of wrap round all at the same
height, level with the top of the cushions, you may want to search for
'Prarie' furniture.
A couple of examples from Google, scroll as required:
http://margoliscustomcarpentry.com/handcraftedfurniture.aspx&usg=__SyvFrUOeyHlumlXq2WYOqldiG1w=&h=480&w=640&sz=51&hl=en&start=58&um=1&tbnid=CChu9cFs5KtCGM:&tbnh=103&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dprarie%2Bchairs%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26start%3D54%26um%3D1
http://www.unfinishedkits.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc%3FStore_Code%3DM%26Screen%3DPROD%26Product_Code%3DHS0052&usg=__eHI7l6SKSRftEK3cTgweKV7mGKg=&h=455&w=550&sz=58&hl=en&start=36&um=1&tbnid=dxRhmeAhy8Q8aM:&tbnh=110&tbnw=133&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dprarie%2Bchairs%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26start%3D18%26um%3D1
It was an offshoot of the Gustav Stickley 'Arts & Crafts' style
furniture, when the manufacturers were looking for ways to continue
the popularity of their products, much like calling everything
'Mission' & slapping on a coat of dark stain, right towards the end of
the 'Arts & Crafts' marketplace popularity. I have seen photos of 2 &
3 seater lounge/sofa seating to match the chairs.
I think it is only a coincidence the FLW also named one of his styles
'Prarie' a few years/decades later.
Been wrong before, probably will be again ;-)
regards
Bruce
On Fri, 22 May 2009 07:53:35 -0700 (PDT), "D'ohBoy"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I have seen, on a number of occasions, a chair similar to a morris
>chair designed by FLW. At least I believe he might have designed it,
>as I believe that most of the furniture in the homes he designed was
>his as well.
>
>Anyhoo, this chair has even broader arms that extend without tapering
>or sloping around three sides.
>
>Back cushion stands not so nearly as proud of the main body of the
>chair as on the Morris you see commonly today.
>
>Is that clear? I cannot find a pic... waitaminnit.... saw one of them
>last week on CBS Sunday Morning. Piece about an author who wrote a
>book about the women in FLW's life. "The Women", I think.
>
>Anyone got a pic or know where I might find plans?
>
>TIA
>
>D'ohBoy
>
>