rR

15/08/2004 3:48 PM

Another tool ID needed

I just added some new photos, I'm not sure about number 87:

http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/


This topic has 23 replies

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to [email protected] (R.H.) on 15/08/2004 3:48 PM

17/08/2004 3:19 PM

On 17 Aug 2004 13:51:48 -0700, [email protected] (R.H.) calmly ranted:

>[email protected] (Dave Mundt) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>> Greetings and Salutations.
>>
>> On 16 Aug 2004 13:23:28 -0700, [email protected] (R.H.) wrote:
>>
>> >Bruce <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>> >> On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 16:48:56 -0600, R.H. wrote
>> >> (in article <[email protected]>):
>> >>
>> >> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/

#84 is an old oil pump gear/shaft.

#85 is a hinge marking gauge.

#86 is a kid's toy or a harmless looking sap.

#87 is a spring compressor, probably automotive but NOT
a valve spring compressor to install valve spring clips.
S&K made lots of those which looked similar back in my
knuckle-busting days.

#88 is a wedge for an axe or maul handle.

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Bruce

in reply to [email protected] (R.H.) on 15/08/2004 3:48 PM

15/08/2004 7:53 PM

On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 16:48:56 -0600, R.H. wrote
(in article <[email protected]>):

> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/

hmmm. looks like a specialized form of spring compresser. Lawnmower engin
valvesprings??

83 is of corse a telephone speaker/mic, 82 is a taper gauge, 80 a pencil
sharpener, 81 some kind of impact printer head or a de-scaler?.

88 is a wedge (for hammer heads, etc.), 85 is a marking gauge

-Bruce

xD

[email protected] (Dave Mundt)

in reply to [email protected] (R.H.) on 15/08/2004 3:48 PM

17/08/2004 12:08 AM

Greetings and Salutations.

On 16 Aug 2004 13:23:28 -0700, [email protected] (R.H.) wrote:

>Bruce <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>> On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 16:48:56 -0600, R.H. wrote
>> (in article <[email protected]>):
>>
>> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>
>> hmmm. looks like a specialized form of spring compresser. Lawnmower engin
>> valvesprings??
>
>I'll put that on my list of possibilities.
>
I don't think that it is a spring compressor, as it would have
to have some sort of slot or hole on the non-forked jaw, to allow a
"keeper" to be put on the valve stem.
I would go with a specialized tool to either PULL spark plug
wires with minimal stress, or push spark plug wires onto the plugs.

*snip*
>>
>> 88 is a wedge (for hammer heads, etc.), 85 is a marking gauge
>
>Yes, 88 is a tool handle wedge; I'm not sure if marking gauge is a
>synonym for the actual name of this one.
>
To be "picky", #85 is a mortising gauge. One knife is
set to mark ONE side of the mortise, and, the other one is set
to mark the OTHER side of the mortise. It is especially useful
for mortises that are offset from the center of the stock.
Also, of course, without resetting things, it can also
mark the width of the tongue that goes on the mating piece of
wood.
I have no real clue as to #s 84 and 86, although I believe
someone else has called it a dreidel, The problem with that is that
I believe that they are square, and, usually made out of clay. THis
looks octagonal, and made out of metal.
#86 looks like a decorative "rats nest" of rings of metal,
although I don't know what I would put it on, myself.

Regards
Dave Mundt

lL

in reply to [email protected] (R.H.) on 15/08/2004 3:48 PM

16/08/2004 3:26 AM

#86 is a monkey's fist. The one you have was probably part of a
necklace rather than functional.

Rr

"R.H."

in reply to [email protected] (R.H.) on 15/08/2004 3:48 PM

18/08/2004 10:37 PM


> >> >> >> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> >>
> >> #84 is an old oil pump gear/shaft.
> >
> >It's not an oil pump gear/shaft.
>
> Is that horribly rusted iron/steel?

It's probably brass, a magnet won't stick to it.

>It's the correct shape for an old Chebby oil pump driven gear. Size?

It's only 1 1/8" long.

I'll go ahead and give the answer to this one, it's a "Put and Take gambling
top".

There's info and several photos of some in a little better shape than mine
here:

http://www.antiquegamblingchips.com/putandtake.htm

rR

in reply to [email protected] (R.H.) on 15/08/2004 3:48 PM

16/08/2004 1:14 PM

"Mark L." <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Hmmm.. Maybe something OB/GYN related? "Just lean back ma'am, this
> won't hurt a bit". Mark L.
>


I had the opportunity to buy one of those, but I passed on it.

Rob

rR

in reply to [email protected] (R.H.) on 15/08/2004 3:48 PM

16/08/2004 1:23 PM

Bruce <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 16:48:56 -0600, R.H. wrote
> (in article <[email protected]>):
>
> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> hmmm. looks like a specialized form of spring compresser. Lawnmower engin
> valvesprings??

I'll put that on my list of possibilities.

> 83 is of corse a telephone speaker/mic, 82 is a taper gauge, 80 a pencil
> sharpener, 81 some kind of impact printer head or a de-scaler?.

Correct on 83, it's the mic; according to my sources 82 is not a taper
gauge; correct on 80; 81 is not an impact printer head or a de-scaler.

>
> 88 is a wedge (for hammer heads, etc.), 85 is a marking gauge

Yes, 88 is a tool handle wedge; I'm not sure if marking gauge is a
synonym for the actual name of this one.


Rob H.

rR

in reply to [email protected] (R.H.) on 15/08/2004 3:48 PM

16/08/2004 1:26 PM

[email protected] (Larry) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> #86 is a monkey's fist. The one you have was probably part of a
> necklace rather than functional.


This one isn't a monkey's fist, I think those are normally made of
rope and the configuration is different. This object is just 20 or so
rings, intertwined so that each ring goes through every other ring.
There is a term for it, and that's what I'm looking for on this one.

Rob H.

rR

in reply to [email protected] (R.H.) on 15/08/2004 3:48 PM

16/08/2004 1:33 PM

> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/

> Some are easy - some - well - ???
>
> I didn't see too much on the web site - do we try to guess what they are?

Yes, the idea is to try and guess/figure out what they are. I've been
posting these on rec.puzzles, but have also been posting here in order
to try and ID some of the tools.


> 84 is a dreidel

This one is not a dreidel

> 87 - I've got one out in the barn, but don't use it - I knew years ago what
> it was. that's sad.

If you remember, please let me know.

> 88 - if it's like my drawer full of wedges to keep the head of a sledge
> hammer, or hammer on the handle, that's my guess

Correct

> 80 is the innards of a pencil sharpener

Yes

> 81 - hmmm - want to think I've seen one of those things somewhere - but
> where
> 83 is the microphone out of the handset of a rotary pots phone.

Correct

> 82 - something to do with my dad's tap and die set - there's a couple of
> them there. looks like thread counts anyway.?

Yes, the ruled part is for thread counts.


Rob H.

rR

in reply to [email protected] (R.H.) on 15/08/2004 3:48 PM

17/08/2004 1:51 PM

[email protected] (Dave Mundt) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Greetings and Salutations.
>
> On 16 Aug 2004 13:23:28 -0700, [email protected] (R.H.) wrote:
>
> >Bruce <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> >> On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 16:48:56 -0600, R.H. wrote
> >> (in article <[email protected]>):
> >>
> >> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> >>
> >> hmmm. looks like a specialized form of spring compresser. Lawnmower engin
> >> valvesprings??
> >
> >I'll put that on my list of possibilities.
> >
> I don't think that it is a spring compressor, as it would have
> to have some sort of slot or hole on the non-forked jaw, to allow a
> "keeper" to be put on the valve stem.
> I would go with a specialized tool to either PULL spark plug
> wires with minimal stress, or push spark plug wires onto the plugs.
>

Thanks, I'll have to do a little research on spark plug tools.



> >> 88 is a wedge (for hammer heads, etc.), 85 is a marking gauge
> >
> >Yes, 88 is a tool handle wedge; I'm not sure if marking gauge is a
> >synonym for the actual name of this one.
> >
> To be "picky", #85 is a mortising gauge. One knife is
> set to mark ONE side of the mortise, and, the other one is set
> to mark the OTHER side of the mortise. It is especially useful
> for mortises that are offset from the center of the stock.
> Also, of course, without resetting things, it can also
> mark the width of the tongue that goes on the mating piece of
> wood.

Thanks for the info on the gauge, and also to Scott for his reply.

> I have no real clue as to #s 84 and 86, although I believe
> someone else has called it a dreidel, The problem with that is that
> I believe that they are square, and, usually made out of clay. THis
> looks octagonal, and made out of metal.

This top was made for an adult gambling game, the letters (P and T) on
it come from its name.

> #86 looks like a decorative "rats nest" of rings of metal,
> although I don't know what I would put it on, myself.

This one is more of a curiosity, it was referred to as a stress
reliever on one web page that I saw.

Rob H.

rR

in reply to [email protected] (R.H.) on 15/08/2004 3:48 PM

17/08/2004 1:51 PM

[email protected] (Dave Mundt) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Greetings and Salutations.
>
> On 16 Aug 2004 13:23:28 -0700, [email protected] (R.H.) wrote:
>
> >Bruce <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> >> On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 16:48:56 -0600, R.H. wrote
> >> (in article <[email protected]>):
> >>
> >> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> >>
> >> hmmm. looks like a specialized form of spring compresser. Lawnmower engin
> >> valvesprings??
> >
> >I'll put that on my list of possibilities.
> >
> I don't think that it is a spring compressor, as it would have
> to have some sort of slot or hole on the non-forked jaw, to allow a
> "keeper" to be put on the valve stem.
> I would go with a specialized tool to either PULL spark plug
> wires with minimal stress, or push spark plug wires onto the plugs.
>

Thanks, I'll have to do a little research on spark plug tools.



> >> 88 is a wedge (for hammer heads, etc.), 85 is a marking gauge
> >
> >Yes, 88 is a tool handle wedge; I'm not sure if marking gauge is a
> >synonym for the actual name of this one.
> >
> To be "picky", #85 is a mortising gauge. One knife is
> set to mark ONE side of the mortise, and, the other one is set
> to mark the OTHER side of the mortise. It is especially useful
> for mortises that are offset from the center of the stock.
> Also, of course, without resetting things, it can also
> mark the width of the tongue that goes on the mating piece of
> wood.

Thanks for the info on the gauge, and also to Scott for his reply.

> I have no real clue as to #s 84 and 86, although I believe
> someone else has called it a dreidel, The problem with that is that
> I believe that they are square, and, usually made out of clay. THis
> looks octagonal, and made out of metal.

This top was made for an adult gambling game, the letters (P and T) on
it come from its name.

> #86 looks like a decorative "rats nest" of rings of metal,
> although I don't know what I would put it on, myself.

This one is more of a curiosity, it was referred to as a stress
reliever on one web page that I saw.

Rob H.

rR

in reply to [email protected] (R.H.) on 15/08/2004 3:48 PM

18/08/2004 1:13 PM

Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> #84 is an old oil pump gear/shaft.

It's not an oil pump gear/shaft.

>
> #85 is a hinge marking gauge.

Correct.

>
> #86 is a kid's toy or a harmless looking sap.

Yes, it's a toy.

>
> #87 is a spring compressor, probably automotive but NOT
> a valve spring compressor to install valve spring clips.
> S&K made lots of those which looked similar back in my
> knuckle-busting days.

Thanks for the info.


>
> #88 is a wedge for an axe or maul handle.

Correct.

rR

in reply to [email protected] (R.H.) on 15/08/2004 3:48 PM

18/08/2004 1:17 PM

Robert Galloway <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> 10. Battery post clamp puller
>
> 19. Apple peeler/corer
>
> 22. Leather punch
>
> 23. Potter's carving/fettling tool
>
> 27. Glass cutter
>
> 34. Vulcanized inner tube patch clamp.
>
> 43. Layout tool for use with surface plate.
>
> 46. Lawn mower blade balancer
>
> 47. Lathe bit
>
> 53. Stove pipe damper
>
> 55. Weld slag scraper
>
> 67. Corn husking peg
>
> 70. Threading die
>
> 71. Wire tightener
>
> 77. Padlock
>
> 78. Small part pickup
>
> 82. Center gauge

Correct on all, except that I was told that 71 was for turning valves,
please let me know if you can verify that it's a wire tightener or if
you have experience using this tool.

Rob H.

rR

in reply to [email protected] (R.H.) on 15/08/2004 3:48 PM

19/08/2004 3:55 PM

jo4hn <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> R.H. wrote:
> > I just added some new photos, I'm not sure about number 87:
> >
> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> #87: a krellman dorker frizzly wrench.
> #89: hyperfrillamadism
> #99: a left side framisoid
> #410: goofled herzmandorp
> ...
> more?
> mahalo,
> jo4hn


LOL, reminds of something that I saw last week, it's a spoof of old
industrial vidoes with some of the most impenetrable, nonsense laden
sales-jargon that you'll ever hear. It can be seen at this site:

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/retro.html

Rob H.

rR

in reply to [email protected] (R.H.) on 15/08/2004 3:48 PM

20/08/2004 11:22 AM

Robert Galloway <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>
> 71. Wire tightener
>

I'm starting to buy into Robert's idea of 71 being a wire tightener,
in an email he explained that after tightening the wire with the large
end, the small end is hooked over the wire to keep it from unwinding.
Perhaps it's both a wire tightener and a valve turner. If you've
forgotten what it looks like, the photo is at the link below:

http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/2004/08/69.html


Rob

ML

"Mark L."

in reply to [email protected] (R.H.) on 15/08/2004 3:48 PM

15/08/2004 11:07 PM

Hmmm.. Maybe something OB/GYN related? "Just lean back ma'am, this
won't hurt a bit". Mark L.

R.H. wrote:

> I just added some new photos, I'm not sure about number 87:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/

ML

"Mark L."

in reply to [email protected] (R.H.) on 15/08/2004 3:48 PM

16/08/2004 4:11 AM



Bruce wrote:

> On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 16:48:56 -0600, R.H. wrote
> (in article <[email protected]>):
>
> 82 is a taper gauge,

Nope, not a taper gauge. Guess again....
>
> -Bruce
>

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to [email protected] (R.H.) on 15/08/2004 3:48 PM

18/08/2004 2:44 PM

On 18 Aug 2004 13:13:07 -0700, [email protected] (R.H.) calmly ranted:

>Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>
>> #84 is an old oil pump gear/shaft.
>
>It's not an oil pump gear/shaft.

Is that horribly rusted iron/steel? It's the correct
shape for an old Chebby oil pump driven gear. Size?
http://web.mit.edu/2.972/www/sample_report.htm

And I still think #71 is a Utility company gas valve
wrench, too.


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Robert Galloway

in reply to [email protected] (R.H.) on 15/08/2004 3:48 PM

17/08/2004 7:07 PM

10. Battery post clamp puller

19. Apple peeler/corer

22. Leather punch

23. Potter's carving/fettling tool

27. Glass cutter

34. Vulcanized inner tube patch clamp.

43. Layout tool for use with surface plate.

46. Lawn mower blade balancer

47. Lathe bit

53. Stove pipe damper

55. Weld slag scraper

67. Corn husking peg

70. Threading die

71. Wire tightener

77. Padlock

78. Small part pickup

82. Center gauge



Larry Jaques wrote:

> On 17 Aug 2004 13:51:48 -0700, [email protected] (R.H.) calmly ranted:
>
>
>>[email protected] (Dave Mundt) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>>
>>>Greetings and Salutations.
>>>
>>>On 16 Aug 2004 13:23:28 -0700, [email protected] (R.H.) wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Bruce <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 16:48:56 -0600, R.H. wrote
>>>>>(in article <[email protected]>):
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> #84 is an old oil pump gear/shaft.
>
> #85 is a hinge marking gauge.
>
> #86 is a kid's toy or a harmless looking sap.
>
> #87 is a spring compressor, probably automotive but NOT
> a valve spring compressor to install valve spring clips.
> S&K made lots of those which looked similar back in my
> knuckle-busting days.
>
> #88 is a wedge for an axe or maul handle.
>
> --============================================--
> Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional.
> ---
> http://diversify.com Comprehensive Website Development
>

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to [email protected] (R.H.) on 15/08/2004 3:48 PM

18/08/2004 7:59 PM

On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 22:37:55 GMT, "R.H." <[email protected]> calmly
ranted:

>
>> >> >> >> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>> >>
>> >> #84 is an old oil pump gear/shaft.
>> >
>> >It's not an oil pump gear/shaft.
>>
>> Is that horribly rusted iron/steel?
>
>It's probably brass, a magnet won't stick to it.

Brass doesn't usually rust quite like that. <g>


>>It's the correct shape for an old Chebby oil pump driven gear. Size?
>
>It's only 1 1/8" long.

Yeah, the driven gear shafts were shorter, but I'll take your
word for it. I still don't think it's brass. I've never seen
acids eat it away in layers like water does to iron/steel.


>I'll go ahead and give the answer to this one, it's a "Put and Take gambling
>top".
>
>There's info and several photos of some in a little better shape than mine
>here:
>
>http://www.antiquegamblingchips.com/putandtake.htm

That last one went for $200? Wow!


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"Cleveland Tech"

in reply to [email protected] (R.H.) on 15/08/2004 3:48 PM

16/08/2004 5:49 AM


"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I just added some new photos, I'm not sure about number 87:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/

Some are easy - some - well - ???

I didn't see too much on the web site - do we try to guess what they are?

84 is a dreidel
87 - I've got one out in the barn, but don't use it - I knew years ago what
it was. that's sad.
88 - if it's like my drawer full of wedges to keep the head of a sledge
hammer, or hammer on the handle, that's my guess
80 is the innards of a pencil sharpener
81 - hmmm - want to think I've seen one of those things somewhere - but
where
83 is the microphone out of the handset of a rotary pots phone.
82 - something to do with my dad's tap and die set - there's a couple of
them there. looks like thread counts anyway.?

sS

[email protected] (Scott Lurndal)

in reply to [email protected] (R.H.) on 15/08/2004 3:48 PM

16/08/2004 8:48 PM

[email protected] (R.H.) writes:
>Bruce <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

>> 88 is a wedge (for hammer heads, etc.), 85 is a marking gauge
>
>Yes, 88 is a tool handle wedge; I'm not sure if marking gauge is a
>synonym for the actual name of this one.

85 is a "Stanley #95 Butt Mortice Gauge".

scott

jj

jo4hn

in reply to [email protected] (R.H.) on 15/08/2004 3:48 PM

19/08/2004 2:50 PM

R.H. wrote:
> I just added some new photos, I'm not sure about number 87:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/

#87: a krellman dorker frizzly wrench.
#89: hyperfrillamadism
#99: a left side framisoid
#410: goofled herzmandorp
...
more?
mahalo,
jo4hn


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