Nothing Fancy just a 4 wide window to replace one that is rotting out
and the panes of glass have unsealed and are sliding apart.
What wood. And a basic design if anyone has an idea. I ahve looked all
over the web and it annoys the crap out of me that no matter what I put
on the search along with the word window I always get some software
package related to MS Windows.
Thanks.
I plan on checking the library tonight. But I csn't imagine there is to
much to it.
It is a 4 pane fixed window. I am looking at ordering 4 peices of
tempered, IG glass measuring 68h by 20w. Because of the wiegth of the
glass I ant to make sure the thickness and strength of the wood
exceeded spec. The current frame is rotted and falling apart and a lot
of the wood that holds the frame is bad also.
Do I need to rabbit the rails and stiles along with quarter round to
hold the glass in or would quarter round work by itself.
I know I'll caulk the glass where it meets the quarter but do I need to
have gasket between the glass and the frame or can I leave about 1/8in
between the panel and the frame and fill it with caulk.
I was hoping to find some Stile/rail kits on the web but I haven't had
any luck. So I have to do all this with basic tools.
"PAPutzback" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Nothing Fancy just a 4 wide window to replace one that is rotting out
> and the panes of glass have unsealed and are sliding apart.
>
> What wood. And a basic design if anyone has an idea. I ahve looked all
> over the web and it annoys the crap out of me that no matter what I put
> on the search along with the word window I always get some software
> package related to MS Windows.
>
> Thanks.
>
> I plan on checking the library tonight. But I csn't imagine there is to
> much to it.
I made these http://www.teamcasa.org/workshop/images/windows1.jpg
using this bit set
http://tinyurl.com/cog5l
I made them from verticle grain fir but next time I think I'll use cypress
or SYP.
The bit set allows for a large tennons and they are strong and fairly easy
to build.
Dave
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> Any way to get a cross section of how the glass sits against the frame.
> A scribble in paint perhaps.
>
> Thanks
I posted a picture at ABPW
Dave
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Not sure I understand what you said.......
> Nothing Fancy just a 4 wide window to replace one that is rotting out
> and the panes of glass have unsealed and are sliding apart.
Is this a double-hung window with 4 panes of glass in the upper and lower
sash or a sliding window with 4 panes in each sliding panel?
Just about any good, knot free wood will work but I would use poplar since
it's a inexpensive hardwood, very few knots if any, takes sealers and paints
well and is easy to machine and is readily available. There are many other
choices and if you look at some windows, you'll find that they are using
plain old pine.
Try describing the window again or at least a link to a similar looking
window that you want to build. Perhaps the easiest route would be to repair
the existing window. I've done that on several occasions when it was an
"old style" window and we wanted to preserve what we could.
Bob S.
"PAPutzback" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Nothing Fancy just a 4 wide window to replace one that is rotting out
> and the panes of glass have unsealed and are sliding apart.
>
> What wood. And a basic design if anyone has an idea. I ahve looked all
> over the web and it annoys the crap out of me that no matter what I put
> on the search along with the word window I always get some software
> package related to MS Windows.
>
> Thanks.
>
> I plan on checking the library tonight. But I csn't imagine there is to
> much to it.
>
That size window is going to be very heavy and is larger than anything I've
built or repaired in the past and rather than mislead you, I hope someone
else more experienced can offer you some sound advice.
The weight of tempered glass and the potential wind load on that much glass
means they better be mounted securely.
Bob S.
"PAPutzback" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It is a 4 pane fixed window. I am looking at ordering 4 peices of
> tempered, IG glass measuring 68h by 20w. Because of the wiegth of the
> glass I ant to make sure the thickness and strength of the wood
> exceeded spec. The current frame is rotted and falling apart and a lot
> of the wood that holds the frame is bad also.
>
> Do I need to rabbit the rails and stiles along with quarter round to
> hold the glass in or would quarter round work by itself.
>
> I know I'll caulk the glass where it meets the quarter but do I need to
> have gasket between the glass and the frame or can I leave about 1/8in
> between the panel and the frame and fill it with caulk.
>
> I was hoping to find some Stile/rail kits on the web but I haven't had
> any luck. So I have to do all this with basic tools.
>
On 7 Oct 2005 11:46:49 -0700, "PAPutzback"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Nothing Fancy just a 4 wide window to replace one that is rotting out
>and the panes of glass have unsealed and are sliding apart.
>
>What wood. And a basic design if anyone has an idea. I ahve looked all
>over the web and it annoys the crap out of me that no matter what I put
>on the search along with the word window I always get some software
>package related to MS Windows.
>
>Thanks.
>
>I plan on checking the library tonight. But I csn't imagine there is to
>much to it.
try a google advanced search:
<http://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en>
in the "without the words" line put "microsoft"
it will look like this:
<http://www.google.com/search?as_q=build+window&num=10&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=microsoft&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&safe=images>
this won't get rid of all of the software vendor links, but it will
thin them out a bit.
"PAPutzback" <[email protected]> writes:
> Any way to get a cross section of how the glass sits against the frame.
> A scribble in paint perhaps.
Keep in mind that wood and glass expand differently when temperature
or humidity change. Have a looki in your local library at any good
boook on carpentry ("The Carpenters Companion" has a section on
windows), there is also a book by the US NAVY on how to build simple
buildings which includes a short chapter on windows and how to put in
the glass.
Double glazing requires a bit more care, but should be covered in
publications a bit more up-to-date than the ones mentioned above.
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