On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 11:59:24 -0500, William Bagwell wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 05:27:04 -0600, DanG <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I, too, use Eternal September. I, too, do not see the originating post.
>> To my knowledge I have no filter in my control that would stop the post.
>
> My guess is an over aggressive filter at Eternal September. Rob posts an
> identical link once a week cross posted to three groups. This apparently
> triggers a filter on a few servers that his subsequent posts containing new
> content "Close but, 2405 is not a sex toy:)" do not. If Rob varied each weeks
> announcement then this problem would probably go away.
Following this i have downloaded all the w"what is it "posts on Eternal
September and have looked back and the last post where Rob is the first
poster is
Subject: What is it? Set 392
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 04:08:32 -0400
after that time they all start with someone quoting rob and giving answers
So I'm guessing your right ET is filtering it for some reason.
Robin
In article <[email protected]>,
Lobby Dosser <[email protected]> wrote:
>"usablevirus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> "Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> scribbled:
>>
>>
>> settings - dont show read articles?
>
>
>nope - it's weird as it is just this one instance
Do you by any chance do a 'mark all as read', 'junk all', or something similar,
in one of the groups it is cross-posted to?
First thing to check -- look in the 'marked as read' messages in your newsreader,
and see if the message shows up _there_.
if it is neither in 'unread' or 'read' messages, then the 'problem' is at your
newsserver, contact the server operator.
if it's in the 'already read', but you didn't read it, it's an issue in your
newsreader.
[email protected] (Scott Lurndal) fired this volley in news:Yifxq.44537
[email protected]:
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
2401 sparkproof barrel bung opener
Lloyd
"Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> scribbled:
> "DoN. Nichols" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On 2011-11-17, Lobby Dosser <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>> "Scott Lurndal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> "Rob H." <[email protected]> writes:
>>>>>>This week's set has been posted:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Rob
>>>>>
>>>>> 2402: This must be a bar, particularly given the glass rings in
>>>>> the finish.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Correct, I guess I didn't look closely enough at that photo, I
>>>> would have
>>>> shopped out the rings if I had seen them. ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>> My news reader sees this post and other follow up posts from you,
>>> but no longer sees your initial post of new items. Have you changed
>>> something on your end for your initial post of a set?
>>
>> Perhaps *you* have changed something in your news filtering?
>> These are cross-posted to three newsgroups, and Rob has
>> "gmailnospam.com" as his domain. Either could be things which could
>> be blocked by filtering. (But since you get the replies, and they
>> are still cross-posted, that could be blocked on either the "From: "
>> or some other header. (Just as yours has a "From: " with a domain of
>> "invalid.invalid" -- another thing which someone might block on.
>>
>> So -- look to what spam blocking is going on at your end.
>>
>> Good Luck,
>> DoN.
>
> Thanks, I'd considered that but have virtually nothing filtered. Might
> be the news server though ...
>
>
settings - dont show read articles?
"Rob H." <[email protected]> writes:
>This week's set has been posted:
>
>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
>Rob
2402: This must be a bar, particularly given the glass rings in the finish.
scott
On Nov 17, 4:08=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob
One tool is a hammer for marking logs and another is a lightweight
tool for cutting brush.
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 05:27:04 -0600, DanG <[email protected]> wrote:
>I, too, use Eternal September. I, too, do not see the originating post.
> To my knowledge I have no filter in my control that would stop the post.
My guess is an over aggressive filter at Eternal September. Rob posts an
identical link once a week cross posted to three groups. This apparently
triggers a filter on a few servers that his subsequent posts containing new
content "Close but, 2405 is not a sex toy:)" do not. If Rob varied each weeks
announcement then this problem would probably go away.
--
William
"beecrofter" <[email protected]> wrote in message and another is a
lightweight
tool for cutting brush.
Commonly known as a brush axe or Sandvick.
http://www.americantrails.org/resources/info/tools3.html
Cliff
> On Nov 17, 4:08 am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>> This week's set has been posted:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Rob
>
2402: A sewing cabinet. The round holes in the top are for spools of
various colors of thread.
2406: Chastity belt for Dick Cheney.
Cheers!
Rich
"Scott Lurndal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> writes:
>>This week's set has been posted:
>>
>>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>Rob
>
> 2402: This must be a bar, particularly given the glass rings in the
> finish.
Correct, I guess I didn't look closely enough at that photo, I would have
shopped out the rings if I had seen them. ;-)
"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Scott Lurndal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "Rob H." <[email protected]> writes:
>>>This week's set has been posted:
>>>
>>>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>Rob
>>
>> 2402: This must be a bar, particularly given the glass rings in the
>> finish.
>
>
> Correct, I guess I didn't look closely enough at that photo, I would have
> shopped out the rings if I had seen them. ;-)
My news reader sees this post and other follow up posts from you, but no
longer sees your initial post of new items. Have you changed something on
your end for your initial post of a set?
--
" Well you can't trust a special like the old time coppers
When you can't find your way 'ome"
"DoN. Nichols" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 2011-11-17, Lobby Dosser <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> "Scott Lurndal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> "Rob H." <[email protected]> writes:
>>>>>This week's set has been posted:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Rob
>>>>
>>>> 2402: This must be a bar, particularly given the glass rings in the
>>>> finish.
>>>
>>>
>>> Correct, I guess I didn't look closely enough at that photo, I would
>>> have
>>> shopped out the rings if I had seen them. ;-)
>>
>>
>> My news reader sees this post and other follow up posts from you, but no
>> longer sees your initial post of new items. Have you changed something on
>> your end for your initial post of a set?
>
> Perhaps *you* have changed something in your news filtering?
> These are cross-posted to three newsgroups, and Rob has
> "gmailnospam.com" as his domain. Either could be things which could be
> blocked by filtering. (But since you get the replies, and they are
> still cross-posted, that could be blocked on either the "From: " or some
> other header. (Just as yours has a "From: " with a domain of
> "invalid.invalid" -- another thing which someone might block on.
>
> So -- look to what spam blocking is going on at your end.
>
> Good Luck,
> DoN.
Thanks, I'd considered that but have virtually nothing filtered. Might be
the news server though ...
"DoN. Nichols" wrote
> On 2011-11-17, Lobby Dosser <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> "Scott Lurndal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> "Rob H." <[email protected]> writes:
>>>>>This week's set has been posted:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Rob
>>>>
>>>> 2402: This must be a bar, particularly given the glass rings in
>>>> the
>>>> finish.
>>>
>>>
>>> Correct, I guess I didn't look closely enough at that photo, I
>>> would have
>>> shopped out the rings if I had seen them. ;-)
>>
>>
>> My news reader sees this post and other follow up posts from you,
>> but no
>> longer sees your initial post of new items. Have you changed
>> something on
>> your end for your initial post of a set?
>
> Perhaps *you* have changed something in your news filtering?
> These are cross-posted to three newsgroups, and Rob has
> "gmailnospam.com" as his domain. Either could be things which could
> be
> blocked by filtering. (But since you get the replies, and they are
> still cross-posted, that could be blocked on either the "From: " or
> some
> other header. (Just as yours has a "From: " with a domain of
> "invalid.invalid" -- another thing which someone might block on.
>
> So -- look to what spam blocking is going on at your end.
>
> Good Luck,
> DoN.
Seems to be wide spread since it has been raised before. I know I do
not "delete" posts, only mark them as read, and also stopped seeing
the original. I suspect that a server is calling the original message
spam and deleting it since it is basically a link with almost no text
and appears weekly. but by the time I get home, someone always has
replied.
2401: conductors dead mans switch? trigger to unlock the so the inner
socket so the handle can be turned and held for moving?
--
Stephen B.
Not the other Steve B.
Remove the first Spam only to e-mail directly
"usablevirus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> scribbled:
>
>
> settings - dont show read articles?
nope - it's weird as it is just this one instance
--
" Well you can't trust a special like the old time coppers
When you can't find your way 'ome"
> 2402) Perhaps to hold cosmetics during application, given the fold-up
> mirrors on each side. I suspect that there are provisions for
> latching them at right angles to the table top. And certainly
> of historical nature, given the large flag partially visible
> behind it.
The photos were from an auction so the flag was not related to the table,
just happened to be next to each other.
> 2406) Looks as though it could grip a cork or a wooden plug, once the
> center pin is pushed in a ways. Slide the ring towards the hook
> ends and it will close them together, and then lock after it
> passes the small bump.
>
> Perhaps for pulling and replacing a wine cork or some kind of
> bung plug?
Good answer, cork puller is correct.
On 11/18/11 2:35 AM, Lobby Dosser wrote:
> "usablevirus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> scribbled:
>>
>>
>> settings - dont show read articles?
>
>
> nope - it's weird as it is just this one instance
>
Maybe Eternal September thinks Rob is spamming when he starts a topic
with a URL. Maybe it would slide through if it had more text.
On 11/17/2011 5:36 PM, Lobby Dosser wrote:
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Scott Lurndal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> "Rob H." <[email protected]> writes:
>>>> This week's set has been posted:
>>>>
>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rob
>>>
>>> 2402: This must be a bar, particularly given the glass rings in the
>>> finish.
>>
>>
>> Correct, I guess I didn't look closely enough at that photo, I would
>> have shopped out the rings if I had seen them. ;-)
>
>
> My news reader sees this post and other follow up posts from you, but no
> longer sees your initial post of new items. Have you changed something
> on your end for your initial post of a set?
>
I, too, use Eternal September. I, too, do not see the originating post.
To my knowledge I have no filter in my control that would stop the post.
"Northe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:5452e26b-dd19-4560-b603-653fbd24919e@gi1g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
> 2405 -- "snail" inkwell with pen holder. Note that when the inkwell is
> pivoted forward, it is closed to reduce evaporation.
>
> Northe
Yes, it is indeed a snail inkwell.
No solid ID yet for the hammer but the rest of the answers can be seen here:
http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/11/set-415.html#answers
> My news reader sees this post and other follow up posts from you, but no
> longer sees your initial post of new items. Have you changed something on
> your end for your initial post of a set?
I haven't changed anything on my end, I agree with most of the replies here
that say news servers are probably filtering my posts for some reason. I'll
change the subject line next week, and if that doesn't work the following
week I'll add a paragraph or two of lorem ipsum to the body of my post,
hopefully one of those will fix the problem.
Rob
DanG wrote:
> On 11/17/2011 5:36 PM, Lobby Dosser wrote:
>>
>> My news reader sees this post and other follow up posts from you, but no
>> longer sees your initial post of new items. Have you changed something
>> on your end for your initial post of a set?
>
> I, too, use Eternal September. I, too, do not see the originating post.
> To my knowledge I have no filter in my control that would stop the post.
Me, three!
Thanks,
Rich
"Robert Bonomi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Lobby Dosser <[email protected]> wrote:
>>"usablevirus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> "Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> scribbled:
>>>
>>>
>>> settings - dont show read articles?
>>
>>
>>nope - it's weird as it is just this one instance
>
> Do you by any chance do a 'mark all as read', 'junk all', or something
> similar,
> in one of the groups it is cross-posted to?
>
> First thing to check -- look in the 'marked as read' messages in your
> newsreader,
> and see if the message shows up _there_.
>
> if it is neither in 'unread' or 'read' messages, then the 'problem' is at
> your
> newsserver, contact the server operator.
>
> if it's in the 'already read', but you didn't read it, it's an issue in
> your
> newsreader.
>
>
It's looking like the server is the culprit.
--
" Well you can't trust a special like the old time coppers
When you can't find your way 'ome"
On 2011-11-17, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
Posting from Rec.crafts.metalworking as always.
2401) Looks like part of a door closer assembly, with the option
to quickly disengage it when you need the door to say open while
moving things through it.
2402) Perhaps to hold cosmetics during application, given the fold-up
mirrors on each side. I suspect that there are provisions for
latching them at right angles to the table top. And certainly
of historical nature, given the large flag partially visible
behind it.
2403) Very interesting, given the V profile on the handle side.
Perhaps for hitting a shoulder on a round something like a tent
peg to drive it in gently -- with a projection riding in the V
to guide the hammer.
2404) O.K. The close up image shows it as rusted steel and wood, not
all copper as the first photo appears to be. (Incandescent
lighting improperly compensated by the camera.)
Looks as though it could be a saw blade used to cut small limbs
from a tree while standing on the ground, or on not too tall a
ladder.
2405) Are there projections of the steel part engaging dimples on the
side of the glass part to allow it o pivot that way? There does
not seem to be sufficient support otherwise to allow for that.
It almost looks like it would hold a candle, but why tilt like
that?
Perhaps a sealing wax candle, tilted to seal a document?
2406) Looks as though it could grip a cork or a wooden plug, once the
center pin is pushed in a ways. Slide the ring towards the hook
ends and it will close them together, and then lock after it
passes the small bump.
Perhaps for pulling and replacing a wine cork or some kind of
bung plug?
Now to post this and then see what others have posted.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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On 2011-11-17, Lobby Dosser <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Scott Lurndal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> "Rob H." <[email protected]> writes:
>>>>This week's set has been posted:
>>>>
>>>>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Rob
>>>
>>> 2402: This must be a bar, particularly given the glass rings in the
>>> finish.
>>
>>
>> Correct, I guess I didn't look closely enough at that photo, I would have
>> shopped out the rings if I had seen them. ;-)
>
>
> My news reader sees this post and other follow up posts from you, but no
> longer sees your initial post of new items. Have you changed something on
> your end for your initial post of a set?
Perhaps *you* have changed something in your news filtering?
These are cross-posted to three newsgroups, and Rob has
"gmailnospam.com" as his domain. Either could be things which could be
blocked by filtering. (But since you get the replies, and they are
still cross-posted, that could be blocked on either the "From: " or some
other header. (Just as yours has a "From: " with a domain of
"invalid.invalid" -- another thing which someone might block on.
So -- look to what spam blocking is going on at your end.
Good Luck,
DoN.
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On 2011-11-18, Stephen B. <SPAMmyspam@cloud9> wrote:
> "DoN. Nichols" wrote
>> On 2011-11-17, Lobby Dosser <[email protected]> wrote:
[ ... ]
>>> My news reader sees this post and other follow up posts from you,
>>> but no
>>> longer sees your initial post of new items. Have you changed
>>> something on
>>> your end for your initial post of a set?
>>
>> Perhaps *you* have changed something in your news filtering?
>> These are cross-posted to three newsgroups, and Rob has
>> "gmailnospam.com" as his domain. Either could be things which could
>> be
>> blocked by filtering. (But since you get the replies, and they are
>> still cross-posted, that could be blocked on either the "From: " or
>> some
>> other header. (Just as yours has a "From: " with a domain of
>> "invalid.invalid" -- another thing which someone might block on.
>>
>> So -- look to what spam blocking is going on at your end.
>>
>> Good Luck,
>> DoN.
>
> Seems to be wide spread since it has been raised before. I know I do
> not "delete" posts, only mark them as read, and also stopped seeing
> the original.
Marking as read *is* the means of deleting an article from your
view. Truly deleting means removing it from the server (and
theoretically all servers) so *nobody* could see or read the article.
And that ability is restricted to two individuals per article:
1) The actual author of that article.
2) The news administrator of the news server from which it was
originally posted. (To give him the power to cancel spam floods
by a user on his system.)
Granted -- there are ways to do it anyway, but they require more
knowledge of how news servers work.
> I suspect that a server is calling the original message
> spam and deleting it since it is basically a link with almost no text
> and appears weekly.
That may be -- especially since the link is to blogspot, which
is frequently a host to spamed sites in my experience. And the fact
that it is cross-posted adds to the likelihood that it will be
(mis)-identified as spam.
Perhaps someone needs to talk to the news admin at
eternal-september to allow an exception to be made from this. I know
that I had to make an exception in my killfiling to keep it from being
marked as already read by my newsreader.
> but by the time I get home, someone always has
> replied.
Both of you seem to be using eternal-september as your news
server, perhaps it is indeed the server.
> 2401: conductors dead mans switch? trigger to unlock the so the inner
> socket so the handle can be turned and held for moving?
Looking at the images, I've decided that the release is for a
ratchet instead of to allow the handle to be removed.
Good Luck,
DoN.
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On 2011-11-18, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>> My news reader sees this post and other follow up posts from you, but no
>> longer sees your initial post of new items. Have you changed something on
>> your end for your initial post of a set?
>
>
> I haven't changed anything on my end, I agree with most of the replies here
> that say news servers are probably filtering my posts for some reason. I'll
> change the subject line next week, and if that doesn't work the following
> week I'll add a paragraph or two of lorem ipsum to the body of my post,
> hopefully one of those will fix the problem.
Adding the paragraph or two will probably make it look even
*more* like spam to the filters. :-) Even if you pick a different two
paragraphs with each posting. I see *far* too much spam like that in my
e-mail.
Unfortunately, changing the subject line will likely defeat my
special filtering to undo the killfile getting rid of cross-posted
articles -- which are otherwise spam, trolling, or political arguments.
Looking at what I have, these were the ones to make sure that I
saw them:
======================================================================
[rec.crafts.metalworking]
Score: 150
Subject: What is it\? Set.*
[rec.crafts.metalworking]
Score: 400
Subject: What is it\? C.*
[rec.crafts.metalworking]
Score: 600
From: "Rob H\." <rhvp65@gmail\.com>
======================================================================
And only one of those works with the current situation, so I
have added the following:
======================================================================
[rec.crafts.metalworking]
Score: 600
From: "Rob H\." <rhvp65@gmailnospam\.com>
======================================================================
which may get me past it.
Good Luck,
DoN.
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