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"Toller"

21/01/2004 10:53 PM

Advice on a used jointer needed

I am looking at a 20 year old OAV 6x42" jointer. It looks like the outfeed
table was somehow gouged, welded in, and reground. Other than that it looks
in good condition.

1) The amount I could actually try it was limited because someone else
looking at it had changed all the settings, and the owner has never used it
and doesn't know how to reset it properly. (Fortunately he has the manual)
It is fair to assume it can probably be set up properly? For what I would
be paying ($125) I don't expect perfection, but it has to be fairly good to
be of any value.

2) The blades have some nicks in them. Is it likely that blades for other
6" jointer will fit this? (the old cliche is that one factory makes all of
Taiwan's jointer, so perhaps the blades are interchangable?)

3) It is an open base, with no provision for dust collection. Is there any
problem with covering it with plywood and attaching a dust port?

I won't hold anyone responsible for their advice; thanks.


This topic has 5 replies

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"Toller"

in reply to "Toller" on 21/01/2004 10:53 PM

22/01/2004 12:54 AM


>
> look for porous castings, how much care was exercised in grinding off
> the casting flash, check the bearings for slop and rough running,
> crank both tables all of the way to the top and bottom of travel.
> stick your head in there and inspect the leadscrews. and the ways. are
> the ways dovetailed? gibbed?

Dovetailed. The cranks run smoothly, though I didn't go up and down all the
way.
>
> does the motor run? are the belts dry, frayed or cracked? if they are
> the original belts figure on a new set.
>
>
The belt is in good shape, so it probably isn't 20 years old.
The motor runs nicely. 10a.

Thanks

Mi

"Mike in Idaho"

in reply to "Toller" on 21/01/2004 10:53 PM

21/01/2004 11:22 PM

> I am looking at a 20 year old OAV 6x42" jointer. It looks like the
outfeed
> table was somehow gouged, welded in, and reground. Other than that it
looks
> in good condition.

Do you have a straightedge that you could verify this with? That would be
my biggest concern. Without flat tables, nothing else matters all that much
(well, in my opinion anyway).

> 2) The blades have some nicks in them. Is it likely that blades for other
> 6" jointer will fit this? (the old cliche is that one factory makes all
of
> Taiwan's jointer, so perhaps the blades are interchangable?)

You could get measurements and call around I would guess. Be happy to give
you my measurements (Sunhill jointer) if you're interested.

> 3) It is an open base, with no provision for dust collection. Is there
any
> problem with covering it with plywood and attaching a dust port?

I've seen people attach plastic bags to the base to collect dust/chips, so I
don't see why not. I've seen them in several magazines as well, shouldn't
be too hard to find a picture or just figure something out on your own.


"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am looking at a 20 year old OAV 6x42" jointer. It looks like the
outfeed
> table was somehow gouged, welded in, and reground. Other than that it
looks
> in good condition.
>
> 1) The amount I could actually try it was limited because someone else
> looking at it had changed all the settings, and the owner has never used
it
> and doesn't know how to reset it properly. (Fortunately he has the
manual)
> It is fair to assume it can probably be set up properly? For what I would
> be paying ($125) I don't expect perfection, but it has to be fairly good
to
> be of any value.
>
> 2) The blades have some nicks in them. Is it likely that blades for other
> 6" jointer will fit this? (the old cliche is that one factory makes all
of
> Taiwan's jointer, so perhaps the blades are interchangable?)
>
>
> I won't hold anyone responsible for their advice; thanks.
>
>

Tt

"Toller"

in reply to "Toller" on 21/01/2004 10:53 PM

22/01/2004 3:18 PM

>
> note that right now you can get grizzly's "Z" series 6x42 for under
> $400 delivered. it's a floor model machine with a 1HP motor and a
> warranty
> http://www.grizzly.com/products/item.cfm?itemnumber=G1182Z
>
Yeh, and it doesn't need to be enclosed, more powerful motor, and doesn't
need new blades. Maybe is it a good choice for only 3x the price of the
used one. Thanks.

Bn

Bridger

in reply to "Toller" on 21/01/2004 10:53 PM

21/01/2004 4:42 PM






On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:53:43 GMT, "Toller" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I am looking at a 20 year old OAV 6x42" jointer.

taiwanese jointers today are pretty good. 20 years ago might be a
different matter.




> It looks like the outfeed
>table was somehow gouged, welded in, and reground. Other than that it looks
>in good condition.


look for porous castings, how much care was exercised in grinding off
the casting flash, check the bearings for slop and rough running,
crank both tables all of the way to the top and bottom of travel.
stick your head in there and inspect the leadscrews. and the ways. are
the ways dovetailed? gibbed?

does the motor run? are the belts dry, frayed or cracked? if they are
the original belts figure on a new set.


>
>1) The amount I could actually try it was limited because someone else
>looking at it had changed all the settings, and the owner has never used it
>and doesn't know how to reset it properly. (Fortunately he has the manual)
>It is fair to assume it can probably be set up properly?

it's probably a clone of the old style delta. they are pretty simple
machines. if everything is there and nothing is broken setup should be
smooth enough.




> For what I would
>be paying ($125) I don't expect perfection, but it has to be fairly good to
>be of any value.

sounds a little high to me, but I'm a bottom feeder....

note that right now you can get grizzly's "Z" series 6x42 for under
$400 delivered. it's a floor model machine with a 1HP motor and a
warranty
http://www.grizzly.com/products/item.cfm?itemnumber=G1182Z




>
>2) The blades have some nicks in them. Is it likely that blades for other
>6" jointer will fit this?

there are several arrangements for blade adjustments. getting a new
set should be straightforward enough. get out your phone book and call
some sharpening shops. often they sell blades or can tell you where to
find them.



> (the old cliche is that one factory makes all of
>Taiwan's jointer, so perhaps the blades are interchangable?)
>
>3) It is an open base, with no provision for dust collection. Is there any
>problem with covering it with plywood and attaching a dust port?

that's what I did when I had a 6" open stand jointer.



>
>I won't hold anyone responsible for their advice; thanks.
>



yeah, sure....

FM

"Fatty Mcgee" <[email protected]>

in reply to "Toller" on 21/01/2004 10:53 PM

22/01/2004 3:01 AM

I actually have this jointer. I haven't tuned it up yet, I bought it some
time ago as a project. The guy I bought it from was actively using it. I
believe it is a direct nock off of a genral jointer. The nicest feature of
the jointer is that it has a really nice long fence. I'm pretty sure the
blades are standard. OAV is still in operation, and they will send you
parts if you contact them.
Sorry I don't have a lot of info, but I haven't had much time to play with
it.


"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am looking at a 20 year old OAV 6x42" jointer. It looks like the
outfeed
> table was somehow gouged, welded in, and reground. Other than that it
looks
> in good condition.
>
> 1) The amount I could actually try it was limited because someone else
> looking at it had changed all the settings, and the owner has never used
it
> and doesn't know how to reset it properly. (Fortunately he has the
manual)
> It is fair to assume it can probably be set up properly? For what I would
> be paying ($125) I don't expect perfection, but it has to be fairly good
to
> be of any value.
>
> 2) The blades have some nicks in them. Is it likely that blades for other
> 6" jointer will fit this? (the old cliche is that one factory makes all
of
> Taiwan's jointer, so perhaps the blades are interchangable?)
>
> 3) It is an open base, with no provision for dust collection. Is there
any
> problem with covering it with plywood and attaching a dust port?
>
> I won't hold anyone responsible for their advice; thanks.
>
>


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