BO

"Bill Orr"

27/11/2003 12:39 AM

What kind of glue?

Need a little advice if anyone can help..

I'm building a walnut ornamental lock box for my pre-teeen niece. I want to
line it with felt but I'm not sure of the kind of glue I should use. I'll cut
the felt out in one piece so that it just folds in place for a perfect fit both
bottom and lid. I had thought ot using just plain old Elmers white glue but
I'm afraid it might bleed through. What do you think? If I accidentally got
some glue on the front of the felt, how do I get it off.?

Bill Orr


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LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "Bill Orr" on 27/11/2003 12:39 AM

27/11/2003 1:57 AM


"Bill Orr" writes:

> I'm building a walnut ornamental lock box for my pre-teeen niece. I want
to
> line it with felt but I'm not sure of the kind of glue I should use.
<snip>

There is a product known as "moleskin".

Basically a felt with contact adhesive on the back covered by release paper.

Cut a piece to size, then install the same way you would apply contact paper
to say a book.

HTH


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john carlson

in reply to "Bill Orr" on 27/11/2003 12:39 AM

27/11/2003 2:58 AM

On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:39:03 GMT, "Bill Orr" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Need a little advice if anyone can help..
>
>I'm building a walnut ornamental lock box for my pre-teeen niece. I want to
>line it with felt but I'm not sure of the kind of glue I should use. I'll cut
>the felt out in one piece so that it just folds in place for a perfect fit both
>bottom and lid. I had thought ot using just plain old Elmers white glue but
>I'm afraid it might bleed through. What do you think? If I accidentally got
>some glue on the front of the felt, how do I get it off.?
>
>Bill Orr
>
The way I did this when I built a music box for my daughter was to cut
some thin cardboard -- like the stuff you find on the back of a pad of
paper -- to fit inside the box, then glue the felt to that with 3M #77
spray adhesive, then slip the felt-covered cardboard into the box. If
you measure carefully, it will stay solidly in place without glue and
yet be removeable if it ever needs to be replaced some day.

One piece for the bottom, with felt wrapped around all four sides of
the cardboard. Once continuous piece for all four side, with felt
wrapped around top and bottom. If you're covering the top, do it like
the bottom.

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FM

"Frank McVey"

in reply to "Bill Orr" on 27/11/2003 12:39 AM

27/11/2003 2:08 AM

Hi, Bill,

I've done a number of pub games which have green felt as a base. I find
standard woodworkers' PVA fine. Don't spread it too thickly and you'll be
ok.

Cheers

Frank

"Bill Orr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Need a little advice if anyone can help..
>
> I'm building a walnut ornamental lock box for my pre-teeen niece. I want
to
> line it with felt but I'm not sure of the kind of glue I should use. I'll
cut
> the felt out in one piece so that it just folds in place for a perfect fit
both
> bottom and lid. I had thought ot using just plain old Elmers white glue
but
> I'm afraid it might bleed through. What do you think? If I accidentally
got
> some glue on the front of the felt, how do I get it off.?
>
> Bill Orr
>
>

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to "Bill Orr" on 27/11/2003 12:39 AM

27/11/2003 2:20 AM

On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:39:03 GMT, "Bill Orr" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Need a little advice if anyone can help..
>
>I'm building a walnut ornamental lock box for my pre-teeen niece. I want to
>line it with felt but I'm not sure of the kind of glue I should use. I'll cut
>the felt out in one piece so that it just folds in place for a perfect fit both
>bottom and lid. I had thought ot using just plain old Elmers white glue but
>I'm afraid it might bleed through. What do you think? If I accidentally got
>some glue on the front of the felt, how do I get it off.?
>
>Bill Orr
>

To remove the glue, use a 1:1 warm mix water:vinegar, blotting several
times using a cellulose sponge moistened (rung out) with the mixture.
To fix the felt to the wood, use a spray adhesive on the felt.
Contact adhesive will work too (applied to the wood), but can be
messier to use than the spray.

BO

"Bill Orr"

in reply to "Bill Orr" on 27/11/2003 12:39 AM

27/11/2003 2:29 PM

Thanks, guys for your help. Several of your suggestions will work, I think.
I'll get some of that spray adhesive and play around with it before I use it on
my box. I may use the cardboard substrate suggested. I found one other
adhesive that someone told me about. It is "Titebond" by Franklin ...Sanding
Disk Cement. It can be applied to a surface and allowed to dry then apply a
second coat and allow to dry clear. The surface is then pressure sensitive
(like duct tape).

Thanks again

Bill

MG

"Mike G"

in reply to "Bill Orr" on 27/11/2003 12:39 AM

27/11/2003 9:42 AM

HI Bill

I've tried felt with spray on glue, flock, and pressure sensitive adhesive
backed glue. The latter is the one I found worked best. I think Rockler and
Woodworkers supply carries. it.

Good luck.

--
Mike G.
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Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"Bill Orr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Need a little advice if anyone can help..
>
> I'm building a walnut ornamental lock box for my pre-teeen niece. I want
to
> line it with felt but I'm not sure of the kind of glue I should use. I'll
cut
> the felt out in one piece so that it just folds in place for a perfect fit
both
> bottom and lid. I had thought ot using just plain old Elmers white glue
but
> I'm afraid it might bleed through. What do you think? If I accidentally
got
> some glue on the front of the felt, how do I get it off.?
>
> Bill Orr
>
>

Sd

Silvan

in reply to "Bill Orr" on 27/11/2003 12:39 AM

27/11/2003 8:56 AM

Bill Orr wrote:

> perfect fit both
> bottom and lid. I had thought ot using just plain old Elmers white glue
> but I'm afraid it might bleed through. What do you think? If I
accidentally got some glue on the front of the felt, how do I get it off.?

Spray glue is less likely to bleed through, but it's messy to use inside the
tight confines of a box, and it's hard to get off if you get it some place
you shouldn't have (which you will.)

My solution to this is to cut poster board to rough size, spray with spray
glue, then stick velvet to it. You want to be careful not to press down
too hard, or the glue will bleed through. (DAMHIKT...) Once dry, cut the
backed cloth to a precise fit. Depending on the shape, it might stay by
itself. If not, Aileen's tacky glue (an extra tacky white PVA available in
crafts departments and crafts stores everywhere) is good to use for
securing the paper-backed cloth to the box.

You can also get away with sticking stuff using little dots of Aileen's
directly on the box. This works fine IME, but it's extremely easy to
inadvertently push one of the glue dots and send the glue squirting through
the fabric.

--
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Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Bill Orr" on 27/11/2003 12:39 AM

27/11/2003 1:42 AM

I would use a spray trim adhesive. Check hobby stores and or an automotive
supply store.


"Bill Orr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Need a little advice if anyone can help..
>
> I'm building a walnut ornamental lock box for my pre-teeen niece. I want
to
> line it with felt but I'm not sure of the kind of glue I should use. I'll
cut
> the felt out in one piece so that it just folds in place for a perfect fit
both
> bottom and lid. I had thought ot using just plain old Elmers white glue
but
> I'm afraid it might bleed through. What do you think? If I accidentally
got
> some glue on the front of the felt, how do I get it off.?
>
> Bill Orr
>
>


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