On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 19:39:53 GMT, "NoOne N Particular"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I assume there is NO possibility that you might EVER want to hose out the
>shop for any reason? I would prefer my outlets to be higher to give me the
>flexibility to do that should I decide to.
I look at it as the flexibility to drop a wide open can of paint
thinner. <G>
Barry
"Dan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Building new shop 30x40 with concrete floor. I want to put several
> electrical recepticles in the floor that are flush with the concrete for
my
> table saw and other tools. Does anyone have experience with this - pro or
> con. I hate having cords hanging or lying around.
>
> TIA, Dan
>
>
The floor outlets that are approved for residential use have cast iron round
boxes that are about 3/8" thick - seriously heavy-duty. The trims are very
robust and the covers that I've seen are machined brass. If the rough box
is installed flush with the surrounding (sub)floor, the trim and cover rise
up 3/8" - 1/2" (not truly flush).
Maybe the ticket would be to bring 110v, 220v and DC to 12"x12" voids in the
'crete (6'x6' grid?) that are covered with a steel plate?
Dan wrote:
> Building new shop 30x40 with concrete floor. I want to put several
> electrical recepticles in the floor that are flush with the concrete for my
> table saw and other tools. Does anyone have experience with this - pro or
> con. I hate having cords hanging or lying around.
>
> TIA, Dan
There are a number of manufactures that make recessed steel floor mounted boxes
for electrical outlets. In the shop I'd opt for one that has a hinged steel
lid that closes flush with the floor when not in use. I've included a link to
one supplier so you can get some idea of what's available.
http://tnbelectricalworld.tnb.com/contractor/docs/sc_infloor_systems_floorboxes.pdf
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Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
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Sun, Jul 11, 2004, 10:10pm [email protected] (Nova)
<snip> In the shop I'd opt for one that has a hinged steel lid that
closes flush with the floor when not in use. <snip>
Yeah, I've seen that type. If nothing else, they should keep
sawdust out of the sockets.
Gotta go with Patriarch tho, I'd be moving stuff. If I had a
choice, I'd have everything in the ceiling.
Making a success of the job at hand is the best step toward the kind you
want.
- Bernard M. Baruch
More likely, your boss gets a raise and/or promotion, from getting
credit for your work.
- JOAT
"Dan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Building new shop 30x40 with concrete floor. I want to put several
> electrical recepticles in the floor that are flush with the concrete for
my
> table saw and other tools. Does anyone have experience with this - pro or
> con. I hate having cords hanging or lying around.
>
> TIA, Dan
Hi Dan,
Don't forget to check your local zoning codes to be sure you can use what
you are looking for. It would be bad to hear the inspector say, "Hey, you
can't do that here." (wait... here's the bad part) "You have to tear that
out."
Chris
Thanks for all the response. All this advice now has me re-thinking. I
don't want to make a decison that I will regret.
Dan
"Dan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Building new shop 30x40 with concrete floor. I want to put several
> electrical recepticles in the floor that are flush with the concrete for
my
> table saw and other tools. Does anyone have experience with this - pro or
> con. I hate having cords hanging or lying around.
>
> TIA, Dan
>
>
"Dan" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Building new shop 30x40 with concrete floor. I want to put several
> electrical recepticles in the floor that are flush with the concrete
> for my table saw and other tools. Does anyone have experience with
> this - pro or con. I hate having cords hanging or lying around.
>
> TIA, Dan
Only comment that I would make is that one of the best features of my shop
is the ability to easily reconfigure the workspace and the assembly
locations to fit the types of projects I'm working on right now. End
tables, chairs, wall clocks, kitchen cabinets, headboards for king-sized
beds - all seem to work better with different shop layouts.
I think that the only feature I haven't moved in the last year is the wood
rack, and that's because it's really full.
Allow yourself the flexibility to have a better idea down the road
somewhere. Somebody better qualified than I will offer an opinion about
flush mounting electrics in the floor.
Patriarch
"Dan" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Building new shop 30x40 with concrete floor. I want to put several
> electrical recepticles in the floor that are flush with the concrete
> for my table saw and other tools. Does anyone have experience with
> this - pro or con. I hate having cords hanging or lying around.
>
> TIA, Dan
>
>
>
If they're flush, you stand the chance of rolling a tool over them etc.
The shops I've seen have a pedestal the size of a work box that the outlets
go into from the side.
+----+
floor --+ | | <-- outlets here
V | |
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NJBrad
"Dan" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Thanks for all the response. All this advice now has me re-thinking.
> I don't want to make a decison that I will regret.
>
> Dan
>
> "Dan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Building new shop 30x40 with concrete floor. I want to put several
>> electrical recepticles in the floor that are flush with the concrete
>> for
> my
>> table saw and other tools. Does anyone have experience with this -
>> pro or con. I hate having cords hanging or lying around.
>>
>> TIA, Dan
The beauty of the wReck is that we can (hopefully) learn from others
experiences, and avoid learning the dangerous and expensive lessons in
person.
Patriarch
Dan -
As for water, others here would likely know more, but how about a GFCI
circuit breaker for all of your floor mounted outlets and then installing
weather resistant gasketed outlets...As the other post mentioned, the outlet
would probably not be truly flush, and that would help. If you drop a can
o'thinnner, I dunno... pray!
I am soon going to be pouring a slab for a shop as well. I am considering
installing a dust collection duct in the floor for the TS and Jointer, et
al. I may put the whole mess in a channel through the center of the slab.
I am on the fence about radiant heat, tho... kinda want to do it....
Anyway, my 2c..
John Moorhead
"Chris Johnson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Dan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Building new shop 30x40 with concrete floor. I want to put several
> > electrical recepticles in the floor that are flush with the concrete for
> my
> > table saw and other tools. Does anyone have experience with this - pro
or
> > con. I hate having cords hanging or lying around.
> >
> > TIA, Dan
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> Don't forget to check your local zoning codes to be sure you can use what
> you are looking for. It would be bad to hear the inspector say, "Hey, you
> can't do that here." (wait... here's the bad part) "You have to tear that
> out."
>
> Chris
>
I assume there is NO possibility that you might EVER want to hose out the
shop for any reason? I would prefer my outlets to be higher to give me the
flexibility to do that should I decide to. Maybe not you, but the next
person that buys it from you?
Wayne
"Dan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Building new shop 30x40 with concrete floor. I want to put several
> electrical recepticles in the floor that are flush with the concrete for
my
> table saw and other tools. Does anyone have experience with this - pro or
> con. I hate having cords hanging or lying around.
>
> TIA, Dan
>
>